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There's some talk too of moving Kendall Simmons over to center. He has practiced there in pre-season the last couple of camps.
I don't know what the team thinks of him. there's a little discussion on him here from the Steel City Insiders board:
I've heard that too...if they can get a guard to replace Simmons, whether that guy's on the roster now or someone they pick up/draft.
I was too...still am actually. Santonio is fine, but I like Mangold better.
I agree...but what's done is done. Now, I'm hoping that Santonio proves to be what they thought he'd be.
They liked him enough to sign him to a pretty good contract for a backup center that didnt play much IIRC.Also, if they didnt like Okobi, I think they would have drafted Mangold last year (that's who I wanted them to get, but Santonio seems legit).AhrnCityPahnder said:
This may be the first sign that Dan Rooney is going senile.
I LOVE finally having a concrete date (after draft day) I can look forward to. It starts....August 5th. Sweet!
Good pick in the 3rd or 4th round. We should have an extra pick or two in the 4th.
What's funny is most of the slips I noticed happened early in the year when the field was still grass.There is no hope and someday mark my word and capture this post....the Steelers will lose a playoff game because of a slip and pressure will be too high from fans, players and coaches and Rooney will have to make a change.
Unfortunatly, it's only going to be shown on the NFL network.
"Fiddles said:
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I was thinking the exact same thing last night.
"Fiddles said:What happened to the squirrels?
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The Steelers thought they had drafted their return man last year: Willie Ried. He looked decent in preseason but was injured for almost the entire 2006 season so we really don't know what we have there.One thing is for certain: Ricardo Colclough and Santonio Holmes aren't going to cut it as return men.
Amen to that. I hope we don't settle with Reid. Maybe he's a good return man, maybe not. He hasn't really proved himself, too much of a risk if you ask me. I hope we can pick up someone who can hang onto the ball and get past the 35 on a fairly consistent basis, and heck....who knows, maybe even break a few.
I don't know how you can say Reid is anymore of a risk than when the Steelers were set to let him handle the duties after Coke's muff vs. Cincy?Reid was excellent in college, I don't think you can just give up on him and toss him aside without giving him a solid shot. I saw a lot of Randle El type movement from him during the preseason. I am excited to see what he has got.But they do need an insurance veteran to come in for sure cause Holmes will be a starter and it is rare starting WRs are allowed to return punts for the entire season. Coke is out of the question and should have been after he muffed all the punts in camp (I read about it all last camp in the pittsburgh papers, the reports figured he for sure was never gonna return punts nice move Cowher)east2west said:Amen to that. I hope we don't settle with Reid. Maybe he's a good return man, maybe not. He hasn't really proved himself, too much of a risk if you ask me. I hope we can pick up someone who can hang onto the ball and get past the 35 on a fairly consistent basis, and heck....who knows, maybe even break a few.Godsbrother said:
I think a healthy Reid is the answer. I'm confident he can get it done. I also hope he can break in as the #4 (maybe even #3?) WR this year.east2west said:Amen to that. I hope we don't settle with Reid. Maybe he's a good return man, maybe not. He hasn't really proved himself, too much of a risk if you ask me. I hope we can pick up someone who can hang onto the ball and get past the 35 on a fairly consistent basis, and heck....who knows, maybe even break a few.Godsbrother said:
I think a healthy Reid is the answer. I'm confident he can get it done. I also hope he can break in as the #4 (maybe even #3?) WR this year.east2west said:Amen to that. I hope we don't settle with Reid. Maybe he's a good return man, maybe not. He hasn't really proved himself, too much of a risk if you ask me. I hope we can pick up someone who can hang onto the ball and get past the 35 on a fairly consistent basis, and heck....who knows, maybe even break a few.Godsbrother said:
The risk is the same thing that happened this year. When I would breath a sigh of relief when we just managed to hang onto a punt, and cheer like we won the game if we managed to get positive yards. (true thats not all Reid's fault, but if he where to get injured again??) Like I said maybe he's a good return man maybe not. He did some awesome things in college but really, that means nothing now. I'm with you though...we need insurance. The rest of the team is too good to be brought down by special teams. Starting from the 15, and starting from the 30 is a huge difference in my book. I think if you can give our offense consistent good returns we win ALOT more games.I don't know how you can say Reid is anymore of a risk than when the Steelers were set to let him handle the duties after Coke's muff vs. Cincy?Reid was excellent in college, I don't think you can just give up on him and toss him aside without giving him a solid shot. I saw a lot of Randle El type movement from him during the preseason. I am excited to see what he has got.But they do need an insurance veteran to come in for sure cause Holmes will be a starter and it is rare starting WRs are allowed to return punts for the entire season. Coke is out of the question and should have been after he muffed all the punts in camp (I read about it all last camp in the pittsburgh papers, the reports figured he for sure was never gonna return punts nice move Cowher)Amen to that. I hope we don't settle with Reid. Maybe he's a good return man, maybe not. He hasn't really proved himself, too much of a risk if you ask me. I hope we can pick up someone who can hang onto the ball and get past the 35 on a fairly consistent basis, and heck....who knows, maybe even break a few.
I think this bodes well for Willie Parker, stretch out the defense and give Willie some room to get his jets going.
This sounds good to me.
They're going to need to add some depth at WR if they're going to do this. Sean Morey, Waler Young and Lee Mays aren't going to cut it.
No they aren't, but Ward, Holmes, Wilson and Washington/Reid doesn't sound all that bad. :( Come to think of it, is Wilson still under contract? or was he done last year?
This is why I've been saying that I wouldn't be stunned to see the Steelers go WR in round 1 again this year, despite more obvious needs. I would say that every facet of their team right now is solid, if not spectacular. I don't see one unit that needs no help at all (save for maybe TE) and I don't see one that is in dire need of new blood (CB and OG would be closest, but they can get by at least another year with what they've got.)I think they're going to approach the draft with a legit BPA approach (unless they start drafting rush ends for a transition to the 4-3.) However, this draft seems weak at the top in quality pass rushers and incredibly strong at WR, unlike last year. At #15, the Steelers could easily be looking at one of : Ted Ginn, Jr., Dwayne Jarrett, Sidney Rice, Dwayne Bowe, or Robert Meachem, any of whom would potentially have been the #1 receiver off the board ahead of Santonio last year. They may go where the value is, particularly if they're looking to go more 4 wide.
Personally I would be schocked to see us draft a WR in the 1st round. We have other glaring needs that should be addressed before we draft another WR (D & O line and MLB). With Hines, up and coming Holmes and Washigton and a servicable Wilson (and Big $ H Miller), I am very content with or WR corp as is and would look for late round value when it comes to WR.
Agreed on their needs, but unless they trade down, I don't know if they address those areas. Levi Brown is a possibility, but only if they're not sold on Starks or Marvel in the near future. You don't draft a tackle in round 1 to ride the pine for 3-4 years. Guard/center is where the need is, and there simply aren't any players that grade out to the #15 spot. Blalock out of Texas is the top interior guy, along with Ryan Kalil at C, and Blalock's stock is slipping. Both players may well be there at 2.15. Patrick Willis is the top rated MLB (unless they love Posluzny and think he can play inside/outside) and I don't think either player goes #15 - maybe they trade down. CB is another position they may want to glance at if they're washing their hands of Colclough, but I am not thrilled with the top of this year's CB class at all. As far as D-Line goes - a guy like Carriker makes sense, but I may need to reinterpret how I view prospects in terms of how they fit the Steelers system. I always looked for undersized, athletic DEs that they could turn into 3-4 OLBs (Adams, Moses, Spencer fit the mold) and tall, powerful, stout, athletic DE or slightly undersized DTs (Carriker) to play the line. If they're going to graduate more towards a Cover 2 4-3 model, however, traditional pass rush ends make more sense. Jamaal Anderson (though he may be gone), Okoye (great DT prospect and in a 4-3, they need more than Hampton and Hoke inside) or Jarvis Moss might be the selection.Again, though - if a guy like Dwayne Jarrett or Marshawn Lynch is there, I don't know. I'm a proponent of selecting the most talented player and finding ways to use him, rather than simply drafting for need. There are always finds later in the draft.Personally I would be schocked to see us draft a WR in the 1st round. We have other glaring needs that should be addressed before we draft another WR (D & O line and MLB). With Hines, up and coming Holmes and Washigton and a servicable Wilson (and Big $ H Miller), I am very content with or WR corp as is and would look for late round value when it comes to WR.
I think I heard that Reid broke Deon Sander's punt return records?
Good pointsI am high on Jarvis Moss as well but I am concerned he may not be worth a 1st round pick.Agreed on their needs, but unless they trade down, I don't know if they address those areas. Levi Brown is a possibility, but only if they're not sold on Starks or Marvel in the near future. You don't draft a tackle in round 1 to ride the pine for 3-4 years. Guard/center is where the need is, and there simply aren't any players that grade out to the #15 spot. Blalock out of Texas is the top interior guy, along with Ryan Kalil at C, and Blalock's stock is slipping. Both players may well be there at 2.15. Patrick Willis is the top rated MLB (unless they love Posluzny and think he can play inside/outside) and I don't think either player goes #15 - maybe they trade down. CB is another position they may want to glance at if they're washing their hands of Colclough, but I am not thrilled with the top of this year's CB class at all. As far as D-Line goes - a guy like Carriker makes sense, but I may need to reinterpret how I view prospects in terms of how they fit the Steelers system. I always looked for undersized, athletic DEs that they could turn into 3-4 OLBs (Adams, Moses, Spencer fit the mold) and tall, powerful, stout, athletic DE or slightly undersized DTs (Carriker) to play the line. If they're going to graduate more towards a Cover 2 4-3 model, however, traditional pass rush ends make more sense. Jamaal Anderson (though he may be gone), Okoye (great DT prospect and in a 4-3, they need more than Hampton and Hoke inside) or Jarvis Moss might be the selection.Again, though - if a guy like Dwayne Jarrett or Marshawn Lynch is there, I don't know. I'm a proponent of selecting the most talented player and finding ways to use him, rather than simply drafting for need. There are always finds later in the draft.Personally I would be schocked to see us draft a WR in the 1st round. We have other glaring needs that should be addressed before we draft another WR (D & O line and MLB). With Hines, up and coming Holmes and Washigton and a servicable Wilson (and Big $ H Miller), I am very content with or WR corp as is and would look for late round value when it comes to WR.
Let's not forget about Heath Miller in this 4-wide set, especially under the guise of running the ball from it. (need good blocking receivers) Arians' past experience with the Colts may have endeared him to this with Pollard & Clark. I think Miller is our 2nd best reciever anyway.No they aren't, but Ward, Holmes, Wilson and Washington/Reid doesn't sound all that bad.Come to think of it, is Wilson still under contract? or was he done last year?
No chit. Colston has changed the wide receiver draft landscape.Personally I would be schocked to see us draft a WR in the 1st round. We have other glaring needs that should be addressed before we draft another WR (D & O line and MLB). With Hines, up and coming Holmes and Washigton and a servicable Wilson (and Big $ H Miller), I am very content with or WR corp as is and would look for late round value when it comes to WR.
