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Stephen Tulloch may now be an every-down backer (1 Viewer)

Jene Bramel

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Stephen Tulloch replaced David Thornton in the Titan nickel packages late in the first half last night and continued to play in the nickel throughout the second half. I saw David Thornton on the field on the rare second half base defensive snaps, so I'm not aware of an injury.

Still trying to find the transcript of Jeff Fisher's press conference last night and I'll follow up on the day after pressers today, but barring some sort of Thornton injury, this is big news for Tulloch. Get him rostered if you can.

 
Stephen Tulloch replaced David Thornton in the Titan nickel packages late in the first half last night and continued to play in the nickel throughout the second half. I saw David Thornton on the field on the rare second half base defensive snaps, so I'm not aware of an injury.Still trying to find the transcript of Jeff Fisher's press conference last night and I'll follow up on the day after pressers today, but barring some sort of Thornton injury, this is big news for Tulloch. Get him rostered if you can.
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Stephen Tulloch replaced David Thornton in the Titan nickel packages late in the first half last night and continued to play in the nickel throughout the second half. I saw David Thornton on the field on the rare second half base defensive snaps, so I'm not aware of an injury.Still trying to find the transcript of Jeff Fisher's press conference last night and I'll follow up on the day after pressers today, but barring some sort of Thornton injury, this is big news for Tulloch. Get him rostered if you can.
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Have to throw a bone to the Forum regulars during the season now and then. Can't hold everything for the Wednesday column. :wall:
 
Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean isn't aware of any injuries to Thornton this morning. He thinks Tulloch has been impressive enough to stick.

It's also worth noting that Tulloch did see some reps as an OLB over the past couple of seasons, which require at least some coverage skill in this defense. We may not get any clear confirmation of a change in the nickel depth chart until next week, but this isn't a situation you want to wait on. The stat line from last night alone (despite the well above average 60 tackle opps) is enough to get him back on everyone's radar after the nationally televised opening night game.

 
Jene Bramel said:
Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean isn't aware of any injuries to Thornton this morning. He thinks Tulloch has been impressive enough to stick.It's also worth noting that Tulloch did see some reps as an OLB over the past couple of seasons, which require at least some coverage skill in this defense. We may not get any clear confirmation of a change in the nickel depth chart until next week, but this isn't a situation you want to wait on. The stat line from last night alone (despite the well above average 60 tackle opps) is enough to get him back on everyone's radar after the nationally televised opening night game.
Tulloch was always under appreciated here at the FB Guys IDP community. He is a very good player even if his measurables were not perfect. I look for a nice season.
 
KellysHeroes said:
Jene Bramel said:
Stephen Tulloch replaced David Thornton in the Titan nickel packages late in the first half last night and continued to play in the nickel throughout the second half. I saw David Thornton on the field on the rare second half base defensive snaps, so I'm not aware of an injury.Still trying to find the transcript of Jeff Fisher's press conference last night and I'll follow up on the day after pressers today, but barring some sort of Thornton injury, this is big news for Tulloch. Get him rostered if you can.
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Well I dropped him because he was ranked so low; oh well.
 
Noticed this as well during the game. He was on the field almost the entire second half and at that point, Pittsburgh had committed to the pass, so the Titans used much less base defense. Definitely an interesting trend regarding Tulloch.

 
KellysHeroes said:
Jene Bramel said:
Stephen Tulloch replaced David Thornton in the Titan nickel packages late in the first half last night and continued to play in the nickel throughout the second half. I saw David Thornton on the field on the rare second half base defensive snaps, so I'm not aware of an injury.Still trying to find the transcript of Jeff Fisher's presser for Tulloch. Get him rostered if you can.
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Well I dropped him because he was ranked so low; oh well.
:goodposting: Not trying to be a hater because there is tons of valuable information here and the commentary on Tulloch is valuabel, but picking up on the guy after he gets 12 tackles is not a marvelous find.
 
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I was able to draft Tulloch in the 22nd round of a 14-team IDP only draft last week.

 
KellysHeroes said:
Jene Bramel said:
Stephen Tulloch replaced David Thornton in the Titan nickel packages late in the first half last night and continued to play in the nickel throughout the second half. I saw David Thornton on the field on the rare second half base defensive snaps, so I'm not aware of an injury.Still trying to find the transcript of Jeff Fisher's press conference last night and I'll follow up on the day after pressers today, but barring some sort of Thornton injury, this is big news for Tulloch. Get him rostered if you can.
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Well I dropped him because he was ranked so low; oh well.
Yeah.. I benched him last night
 
KellysHeroes said:
Jene Bramel said:
Stephen Tulloch replaced David Thornton in the Titan nickel packages late in the first half last night and continued to play in the nickel throughout the second half. I saw David Thornton on the field on the rare second half base defensive snaps, so I'm not aware of an injury.Still trying to find the transcript of Jeff Fisher's presser for Tulloch. Get him rostered if you can.
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Well I dropped him because he was ranked so low; oh well.
:goodposting: Not trying to be a hater because there is tons of valuable information here and the commentary on Tulloch is valuabel, but picking up on the guy after he gets 12 tackles is not a marvelous find.
:hifive: I think the note would've been valuable regardless of the stat line. It's not the 8-4 line score that's important here. It's the mid-game, unexpected change in his responsibility from his prior base defensive only role to every-down player. It's certainly easy to start the thread after the eight solo night, but I may have started the thread (it would've been noted in the W2 RTD regardless) if he had finished with only three solos.Curtis Lofton had five games with six or more solos last year. Those five games projected over a full season would've projected to over 95 solos. Had one decided to reach for him on waivers and started him looking for those numbers in a redraft league, they would have been disappointed with his four or fewer solos on ten other occasions last year (when he played less than 50% of the snaps as a base defensive player only).Tulloch himself has had six games with more than seven solos in his last two seasons (not including last night's effort). My argument here is that, if the role he played last night holds, he's much more likely to produce the stats he did last night than his inconsistent game-by-game effort over the past two seasons.Finally, I would be shocked if there's not another linebacker this week with a 8-12 total tackle line whose outlook will be the polar opposite of Tulloch's.
 
KellysHeroes said:
Jene Bramel said:
Stephen Tulloch replaced David Thornton in the Titan nickel packages late in the first half last night and continued to play in the nickel throughout the second half. I saw David Thornton on the field on the rare second half base defensive snaps, so I'm not aware of an injury.Still trying to find the transcript of Jeff Fisher's presser for Tulloch. Get him rostered if you can.
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Well I dropped him because he was ranked so low; oh well.
:football: Not trying to be a hater because there is tons of valuable information here and the commentary on Tulloch is valuabel, but picking up on the guy after he gets 12 tackles is not a marvelous find.
:loco: I think the note would've been valuable regardless of the stat line. It's not the 8-4 line score that's important here. It's the mid-game, unexpected change in his responsibility from his prior base defensive only role to every-down player. It's certainly easy to start the thread after the eight solo night, but I may have started the thread (it would've been noted in the W2 RTD regardless) if he had finished with only three solos.Curtis Lofton had five games with six or more solos last year. Those five games projected over a full season would've projected to over 95 solos. Had one decided to reach for him on waivers and started him looking for those numbers in a redraft league, they would have been disappointed with his four or fewer solos on ten other occasions last year (when he played less than 50% of the snaps as a base defensive player only).Tulloch himself has had six games with more than seven solos in his last two seasons (not including last night's effort). My argument here is that, if the role he played last night holds, he's much more likely to produce the stats he did last night than his inconsistent game-by-game effort over the past two seasons.Finally, I would be shocked if there's not another linebacker this week with a 8-12 total tackle line whose outlook will be the polar opposite of Tulloch's.
You are right, it is a valuable thread, just wished he didn't put up such a monster line that now everyone will be on him...and of course doesn't help that I'm a little frustrated that I gave up on him and dropped him 3 days ago.
 
You are right, it is a valuable thread, just wished he didn't put up such a monster line that now everyone will be on him...and of course doesn't help that I'm a little frustrated that I gave up on him and dropped him 3 days ago.
I hear you. If it makes folks reading feel better, I did the same after seeing him leave the field in nickel packages during the preseason due to roster issues. It's going to be hard for most of us to get him back.
 
You are right, it is a valuable thread, just wished he didn't put up such a monster line that now everyone will be on him...and of course doesn't help that I'm a little frustrated that I gave up on him and dropped him 3 days ago.
I hear you. If it makes folks reading feel better, I did the same after seeing him leave the field in nickel packages during the preseason due to roster issues. It's going to be hard for most of us to get him back.
I had him a couple years ago, and waited, but others showed more promise so he went, and is gone. It's one of those cyclical things - I cut Gaither last year, and it was the right move then. Now it looks dumb, mostly due to Bradkley's injury.Jene is spot on about the nickel snaps - I actually noticed that, and I'm not that up on defensive rotations yet, but I knew he was a 2-down backer. I'm thinking of reviewing who the 2-down backers are with promise to see who might break out suddenly while watching games this year.
 
What are your new projections for him based on the switch? Its not like Thorton really lit up the FFL world, nor was he projected to this year...

 
What are your new projections for him based on the switch? Its not like Thorton really lit up the FFL world, nor was he projected to this year...
Just two years ago, as the SLB on the Titans, Thornton had 132 total tackles.If Tulloch, as the 3-down MLB, is beating David or Keith to the ball I would guess that is a fair +/- point.
Jene or Aaron what do you think his dynasty potential is? LB2, LB3?
 
Somehow I held onto him for the past 3 years, thought of cutting him often but just somehow never did. Deep league obviously, hope I get rewarded when I actually put him in my lineup.

 
buck56 said:
Choke said:
Casper05 said:
What are your new projections for him based on the switch? Its not like Thorton really lit up the FFL world, nor was he projected to this year...
Just two years ago, as the SLB on the Titans, Thornton had 132 total tackles.If Tulloch, as the 3-down MLB, is beating David or Keith to the ball I would guess that is a fair +/- point.
Jene or Aaron what do you think his dynasty potential is? LB2, LB3?
It's worth noting that there were 60 tackle opportunities last night -- 13 more than the historical league average -- so it's worth pausing before projecting huge numbers for Tulloch on the strength of his eight solo effort last night. It's not the Titan MLB job that's been the problem. It's been the marginal talent and the lack of an every-down role the Titan MLBs have had over the past decade. It's been Rocky Boiman, Peter Sirmon, Ryan Fowler, etc. I think Tulloch could sneak his way into the top 20-25 in an every-down role.
 
(RotoWire) Thornton was "banged up" and could not participate in most of the Titans' nickel packages in Thursday's loss to Pittsburgh, the Nashville City Paper reports.

 
i picked this guy up as my #1 waiver wire pickup this week. i'll be looking to re-evaluate him after starting him for the next 3 weeks. he looked great against pittsburgh, always around the ball.

 
Didn't see the game but the numbers indicate that Thornton was the every-down guy this week and Tulloch isn't as valuable as we thought.

Anyone have real observations or insight?

 
Not quite the game that Tulloch owners were hoping for, alright. This definitely seems to be a wait and see situation between Tulloch and Thornton.

 
Keep in mind they were playing Houston--not exactly a power-run team. Yet, he still put up decent numbers in a tackle-heavy scoring system. I still think he looks to be a tackling machine and I will start him with confidence anytime he faces a half-decent rushing team.

 
Tulloch had another nice game this week. Any news on whether he was an every-down backer this week vs. the NYJ?
I haven't had a chance to see the game yet, but my initial guess is that the Jets offense provided a great matchup for Tulloch. I'm guessing that the Titans base defense was on the field for much of the game, especially with the Jets getting out to an early lead.from reading the play by play logs, it seems like most of his tackles came on 1st and 2nd downs, but there were a couple positive signs as well:3-15-50 (2:40) (Shotgun) L.Washington right tackle to TEN 44 for 6 yards (S.Tulloch, N.Harper).3-15-NYJ 38 (3:06) T.Jones right guard to NYJ 43 for 5 yards (S.Tulloch, J.Jones).
 
Excellent, thanks. I will continue to start him then with confidence when he plays a team with a decent running game.

 
after watching the game, it was definitely Bulluck and Thornton in the nickel package. they just didn't use it a ton in the game.

 
He put up 9-2 against the Colts. They had to have played the nickle a lot right? How could he get so many tackles as 2 down guy???

He was just dropped in my dynasty league. Worth a pickup still?

 
Yeah, I'd like to know, too, particularly because he should have an awesome matchup this week at NE--remember how the scorer there loves to give assists!

 
He put up 9-2 against the Colts. They had to have played the nickle a lot right? How could he get so many tackles as 2 down guy???He was just dropped in my dynasty league. Worth a pickup still?
The Titans were very limited in the secondary due to injury. They used Keith Bulluck as a slot corner whether on Dallas Clark or in zone against Austin Collie. I think all three linebackers may have played every down against Indy. Should be interesting to see how that breaks down when Finnegan returns, but with Harper out now, anything is possible with this group.Again, though, last week is a great indicator of what Tulloch can do when playing every down. It's not the Titan MLB position that's been the problem for the past decade. It's the talent and snap count.
 
Thanks to you Jene I picked up Tulloch a few weeks ago and he's been very steady thus far...I can count on him for pretty consistent tackles each week...good addition...i also picked up Timmons he had a decent game this past week hope that continues as well...

 
I finally broke down and picked him up (giving me 8 linebackers on a roster of 27!) so nobody else could have him. I'm really tempted to start him vs. New England, though.

 
I've been starting him every week since I picked him up and he's done pretty good so far...only downer was I had Timmons on my bench this week and he came through with 2 sacks, ff and 5 tkls...lol! at least I have three solid lb's my other one is James Laurinaitis who i drafted because of the IDP roundtable folks big thxs to them!

 

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