Steve NcNair will NOT be released (1 Viewer)

[Football Jones Junior]

Just herd that the Titans said that they will NOT release McNair unless they recieve atleast a 4th round compensation for him.

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[David Yudkin]

They won't get anything if they cut him, and last I had heard they couldn't sign any rookies until they had more cap room. Things may have changed, but IIRC they were only a few hundred thousand dollars under the cap. If they don't cut McNair, where else are they going to get the cap room from?

 

[Football Jones Junior]

They won't get anything if they cut him, and last I had heard they couldn't sign any rookies until they had more cap room.  Things may have changed, but IIRC they were only a few hundred thousand dollars under the cap.  If they don't cut McNair, where else are they going to get the cap room from?

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If they get ride of him they clear more that $23.5 million. I think it may just be a bluff to see what Baltimore will do.

 

[Banger]

This is all gamesmanship. The Titans cannot afford to keep McNair at his current salary and if McNair chooses not to renegotiate (which at this point I don't believe he will) the Titans will have no choice but to cut him at some point. When that point is is another issue but they will cut him.

 

[Kiddnets]

Boy that's tough - Titans have to play poker to get the same pick for a former League MVP that the Jets got for a clueless head coach!

 

[Mungo Burrows]

They won't get anything if they cut him, and last I had heard they couldn't sign any rookies until they had more cap room.  Things may have changed, but IIRC they were only a few hundred thousand dollars under the cap.  If they don't cut McNair, where else are they going to get the cap room from?

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If they get ride of him they clear more that $23.5 million. I think it may just be a bluff to see what Baltimore will do.
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They clear $9m. The remainder of the $23m is dead money for bonuses already paid. Still, clearing $9m from the cap would definitely help. They're going to need a good chunk of room to sign Young.

 

[Football Jones Junior]

Boy that's tough - Titans have to play poker to get the same pick for a former League MVP that the Jets got for a clueless head coach!

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pretty sad.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Boy that's tough - Titans have to play poker to get the same pick for a former League MVP who they can't afford to keep and will eventually need to cut or trade that the Jets got for a clueless head coach!

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[Football Jones Junior]

They won't get anything if they cut him, and last I had heard they couldn't sign any rookies until they had more cap room.  Things may have changed, but IIRC they were only a few hundred thousand dollars under the cap.  If they don't cut McNair, where else are they going to get the cap room from?

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If they get ride of him they clear more that $23.5 million. I think it may just be a bluff to see what Baltimore will do.
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They clear $9m. The remainder of the $23m is dead money for bonuses already paid. Still, clearing $9m from the cap would definitely help. They're going to need a good chunk of room to sign Young.
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The Tennessee Titans have reiterated their directive that quarterback Steve McNair work out somewhere other than the team's facility.

The team has been attempting to renegotiate McNair's contract in an effort to reduce his $23.46 million salary cap hit in 2006. If McNair gets hurt during a team activity, the Titans could be responsible for the full amount.

 

[GroveDiesel]

So meanwhile Vince Young and Lendale White can't practice with them because there isn't money to sign them. Yeah, that sounds like a brilliant move. If I was Ozzie Newsome, I'd be at the Titans right now. I'd be emailing over offers like "We wi11 giv3 U a 7th rnd pik in 2013 4 St3v3 McNair. Yes or No?

 

[Kiddnets]

Boy that's tough - Titans have to play poker to get the same pick for a former League MVP who they can't afford to keep and will eventually need to cut or trade that the Jets got for a clueless head coach that they were going to fire!!!

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[Mungo Burrows]

So meanwhile Vince Young and Lendale White can't practice with them because there isn't money to sign them.  Yeah, that sounds like a brilliant move.  If I was Ozzie Newsome, I'd be    at the Titans right now.  I'd be emailing over offers like "We wi11 giv3 U a 7th rnd pik in 2013 4 St3v3 McNair.  Yes or No?

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They will be able to attend minicamps and OTAs all spring. However, they won't be able to attend training camp. That's why he is likely to be released no later than late July. What the Ravens would be trading for is those extra 2 months between May and July.

 

[JaxBill]

So meanwhile Vince Young and Lendale White can't practice with them because there isn't money to sign them.  Yeah, that sounds like a brilliant move.  If I was Ozzie Newsome, I'd be    at the Titans right now.  I'd be emailing over offers like "We wi11 giv3 U a 7th rnd pik in 2013 4 St3v3 McNair.  Yes or No?

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The contract status of Young and White doesn't matter until training camps open. It has no bearing on minicamps/offseason conditioning. Now, the graduation date fo their respective classes might.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Boy that's tough - Titans have to play poker to get the same pick for a former League MVP who they can't afford to keep and will eventually need to cut or trade that the Jets got for a clueless head coach that they were going to fire!!!

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Good point.

 

[Frills]

So meanwhile Vince Young and Lendale White can't practice with them because there isn't money to sign them.  Yeah, that sounds like a brilliant move.  If I was Ozzie Newsome, I'd be    at the Titans right now.  I'd be emailing over offers like "We wi11 giv3 U a 7th rnd pik in 2013 4 St3v3 McNair.  Yes or No?

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The contract status of Young and White doesn't matter until training camps open. It has no bearing on minicamps/offseason conditioning. Now, the graduation date fo their respective classes might.
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Young need not worry about graduation date...

 

[GroveDiesel]

So meanwhile Vince Young and Lendale White can't practice with them because there isn't money to sign them.  Yeah, that sounds like a brilliant move.  If I was Ozzie Newsome, I'd be    at the Titans right now.  I'd be emailing over offers like "We wi11 giv3 U a 7th rnd pik in 2013 4 St3v3 McNair.  Yes or No?

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The contract status of Young and White doesn't matter until training camps open. It has no bearing on minicamps/offseason conditioning. Now, the graduation date fo their respective classes might.
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Good point. But the Titans didn't say that they wouldn't release him on June 1st, they said that they wouldn't release him at all. It's such an empty threat that it's ridiculous. Everyone knows that they can't afford to keep McNair and sign their draft picks. Steve McNair knows it, the Ravens know it and so do Young and White's agents (well, maybe not Young's agent). Until McNair is cut, Young and White can't sign. It's a completely empty threat that the Titans are making and it just makes them look incompetent and foolish.

 

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Titans | Reese not expecting to hear from McNair or CookTue, 9 May 2006 23:22:40 -0700Terry McCormick, of the Nashville City Paper, reports Tennessee Titans general manager Floyd Reese said he would be surprised if he heard from QB Steve McNair or his agent, Bus Cook, before the grievance hearing next week. Reese seems content with slow playing the issue and see how it plays out. If the team wins the grievance, they could technically hold on to McNair until late August, but would need some money to sign their draft class by mid-July.

 

[diesel7982]

The threat isnt that the Titans won't cut McNair.

Its that they won't do so until July, making him virtually useless to the Ravens as their potential starter.

The Ravens will cave.

 

[Big Score]

If next weeks grievance hearing goes against the Titans, I think this most recently reported stance, changes considerably.

 

[Crippler]

Why is useless to the Ravens if not going there to July. I think with his experience and past repoire with Derrick mason that he would have no issue being the opening day starter still.

Also the Titans will need to do something if they want to get into the Law sweepstakes or to even get Ahmad Plummer. The longer they wait they tougher for them also. They could miss out on these guys by waiting that long.

Titans are really in a bind and are screwing themselves by not taking the pick and trying to get greedy. Silly I say. I think they are going to have a tough time signing White anyways. He is a prime candidate to hold out as will expect 1st round money.

 

[The_Man]

As a Ravens fan, I LOL when people talk about McNair needing time to learn the offense.

For the last 6 years, the offense has been hand the ball to Jamal, hand the ball to Jamal, and throw a jump ball to Heap -- except when they're in the red zone and then things get really complex. Because then sometimes they throw a fade/jump ball to Clarence Moore.

I think McNair should be able to pick it up. Before lunchtime on his first day in purple.

 

[CalBear]

As a Ravens fan, I LOL when people talk about McNair needing time to learn the offense.

For the last 6 years, the offense has been hand the ball to Jamal, hand the ball to Jamal, and throw a jump ball to Heap -- except when they're in the red zone and then things get really complex. Because then sometimes they throw a fade/jump ball to Clarence Moore.

I think McNair should be able to pick it up. Before lunchtime on his first day in purple.

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Baltimore was #8 in the league in 2005 in pass attempts, and #21 in rushing attempts.

 

[Ozymandias]

As a Ravens fan, I LOL when people talk about McNair needing time to learn the offense.

For the last 6 years, the offense has been hand the ball to Jamal, hand the ball to Jamal, and throw a jump ball to Heap -- except when they're in the red zone and then things get really complex. Because then sometimes they throw a fade/jump ball to Clarence Moore.

I think McNair should be able to pick it up. Before lunchtime on his first day in purple.

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Baltimore was #8 in the league in 2005 in pass attempts, and #21 in rushing attempts.
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He's a fan, not an analyst.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

As a Ravens fan, I LOL when people talk about McNair needing time to learn the offense.

For the last 6 years, the offense has been hand the ball to Jamal, hand the ball to Jamal, and throw a jump ball to Heap -- except when they're in the red zone and then things get really complex. Because then sometimes they throw a fade/jump ball to Clarence Moore.

I think McNair should be able to pick it up. Before lunchtime on his first day in purple.

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Baltimore was #8 in the league in 2005 in pass attempts, and #21 in rushing attempts.
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With all the injuries to Jamal, they made 2nd down a passing play as well. Last year it was more like:Run Jamal or Chester

Throw the ball high and 3 feet behind Heap over the middle

Throw a 5 yard hitch on 3rd and 8 to Mason and watch him get clobbered short of the first down.

 

[diesel7982]

Why is useless to the Ravens if not going there to July. I think with his experience and past repoire with Derrick mason that he would have no issue being the opening day starter still.

Also the Titans will need to do something if they want to get into the Law sweepstakes or to even get Ahmad Plummer. The longer they wait they tougher for them also. They could miss out on these guys by waiting that long.

Titans are really in a bind and are screwing themselves by not taking the pick and trying to get greedy. Silly I say. I think they are going to have a tough time signing White anyways. He is a prime candidate to hold out as will expect 1st round money.

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Apparently, the Ravens passing game includes other reads besides Mason. Baltimore isnt going to give McNair $11mil to try to learn the offense in 2 months.

 

[CalBear]

With all the injuries to Jamal, they made 2nd down a passing play as well.  Last year it was more like:

Run Jamal or Chester

Throw the ball high and 3 feet behind Heap over the middle

Throw a 5 yard hitch on 3rd and 8 to Mason and watch him get clobbered short of the first down.

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Baltimore threw on first down 44% of the time in 2005; the league average is 44%.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

With all the injuries to Jamal, they made 2nd down a passing play as well.  Last year it was more like:

Run Jamal or Chester

Throw the ball high and 3 feet behind Heap over the middle

Throw a 5 yard hitch on 3rd and 8 to Mason and watch him get clobbered short of the first down.

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Baltimore threw on first down 44% of the time in 2005; the league average is 44%.
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Sarcasm Down?

 

[Wadsworth]

-Is a fourth round pick really worth the continuing embarassment of the Titans franchise and the best player in the short history of said franchise?

-Doesn't Vince Young respect Steve McNair greatly and how will this treatment of McNair effect Young for years to come?

What's next? If the Ravens don't agree to terms the team will release some pictures taken of Steve McNair in the shower? Make some fat jokes about his mom? I know it's a business, but come on. McNair has given his all for that team and everyone knows it's time for them to part ways. Just have some class about it.

 

[Wadsworth]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

Teams don't give $11m to a QB to come in as the back up.

 

[CalBear]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

Teams don't give $11m to a QB to come in as the back up.
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It's not clear that the Ravens really offered $11 million to McNair for this year.

 

[Men-in-Cleats]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

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Totals: 1799  11 12  and he missed 8 games he had week 15/16 3td games and Boller had a 3 td game aginst Cincy defense week 12 . Boller has really only had 2 seasons to develop and 2 out of the 3 he had no receivers..Travis Taylor and Ismail come on..Are you kidding???? When your TE is the best receiver you got that's a problem and yes Ravens have taken care of that need with Mason and Clayton but Boller was out for 8 games during that season and he had 7 games to show what he has got really 3 games to shake off the rust. I think it would be a mistake to break this kid's confidence. I still think he has a great arm and deserves this season to prove the investment was worth it. If he starts to suck then bring in McNair. The leash would be short...I think Boller could be a sleeper this season. I'm not saying this because I own Boller in my Dynasty league. I'm plenty stacked at QB, I just think 3 years is not enough to fully develop a qb.

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Drew Brees played a hell of a lot better than Boller with probably less physical talent and no better wide receivers, a talented TE, and a talented RB in a run-oriented offense. Boller has also had a more talented O-line and a better defense to keep things close. The excuses need to end and the production begin for this guy.

 

[Men-in-Cleats]

-Is a fourth round pick really worth the continuing embarassment of the Titans franchise and the best player in the short history of said franchise?

-Doesn't Vince Young respect Steve McNair greatly and how will this treatment of McNair effect Young for years to come?

What's next? If the Ravens don't agree to terms the team will release some pictures taken of Steve McNair in the shower? Make some fat jokes about his mom? I know it's a business, but come on. McNair has given his all for that team and everyone knows it's time for them to part ways. Just have some class about it.

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It's not a short history as only the name and location changed from the Oilers, its still the same franchise. He's probably the 3rd best player in their history after Earl Cambell and Warren Moon.

 

[trader jake]

the NFL is a business and GM's are wise to know this. here we often have to remind ourself of this fact

with that being said the titans are damn fools to drag this out...all over a 4th or 5th round selection let the man go and move on

 

[jetsman]

stupid titan fan think Newsome was born yesterday, he offered the 5th as a gift, he knows and everyone with a brain knows McNair will be cut. If I'm Ozzie, I send McNair this playbook and tell Reese the offer of a 5th has been rescinded. welcome to 4-12 Floyd.

The whole situation begs the question why draft Young, If you had no intention of letting McNair groom him..? This team is a trainwreck bound to happen and fishers too good a coach to sabotage this way

 

[trader jake]

I think the Ravens will just wait it out...They really don't have to give up the pick the wayI see it, Newsome has said he has no more comments on the situations and I think really he is willing to wait the Titans out.

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agreed. and why should he do anything different. the offer is a 5th now or the titans can just sit there and get nothing...eventually releasing mcnair in two months. why drag this whole thing out over the difference between a 4th and a 5th round selection?the titans are dragging this out for the difference between a player like pj daniels (selected 132 by the ravens) and a player like quinn sypniewski (drafted 166 by the ravens)

there is a time to stick to your guns - this isn't one of them. this whole ordeal makes the titans look like fools and the ravens look like they know what they are actually doing

 

[Bears_Man2]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

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Totals: 1799  11 12  and he missed 8 games he had week 15/16 3td games and Boller had a 3 td game aginst Cincy defense week 12 . Boller has really only had 2 seasons to develop and 2 out of the 3 he had no receivers..Travis Taylor and Ismail come on..Are you kidding???? When your TE is the best receiver you got that's a problem and yes Ravens have taken care of that need with Mason and Clayton but Boller was out for 8 games during that season and he had 7 games to show what he has got really 3 games to shake off the rust. I think it would be a mistake to break this kid's confidence. I still think he has a great arm and deserves this season to prove the investment was worth it. If he starts to suck then bring in McNair. The leash would be short...I think Boller could be a sleeper this season. I'm not saying this because I own Boller in my Dynasty league. I'm plenty stacked at QB, I just think 3 years is not enough to fully develop a qb.

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It's not happening. The Ravens are in win now mode. They can't spend another year (Year 4) waiting on Boller to develop consistency. You bring up the good games, but you fail to bring about every other game in his lackluster career.If they weren't going after McNair to be their starter.....they wouldn't be going after him at all. It's a pretty cut and dry case.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

Teams don't give $11m to a QB to come in as the back up.
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What's Boller making???
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~$1.6m in yr 4 of his rookie contract. Next year is ~$800k

 

[CalBear]

If they weren't going after McNair to be their starter.....they wouldn't be going after him at all. It's a pretty cut and dry case.

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I don't think that's true at all. The Ravens do not want to be stuck in a situation where they're starting Kordell Stewart at QB again. It's not clear why they're going after McNair, and to know their intentions, we'd really have to know more about the offer they've made. If they're offering $11 million for 2006, I think you're right that they're looking at him as a starter. If they're offering $4 million signing bonus for 2006, and $3 million for 2007 and 2008 on Ravens options, and that's what his agent is reporting as $11 million in signing bonus, it would be more like they're looking at him as insurance and veteran security. Without knowing the details, it's hard to say.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

          yds    int  td

Totals: 1799  11 12  and he missed 8 games he had week 15/16 3td games and Boller had a 3 td game aginst Cincy defense week 12 . Boller has really only had 2 seasons to develop and 2 out of the 3 he had no receivers..Travis Taylor and Ismail come on..Are you kidding???? When your TE is the best receiver you got that's a problem and yes Ravens have taken care of that need with Mason and Clayton but Boller was out for 8 games during that season and he had 7 games to show what he has got really 3 games to shake off the rust. I think it would be a mistake to break this kid's confidence. I still think he has a great arm and deserves this season to prove the investment was worth it. If he starts to suck then bring in McNair. The leash would be short...I think Boller could be a sleeper this season. I'm not saying this because I own Boller in my Dynasty league. I'm plenty stacked at QB, I just think 3 years is not enough to fully develop a qb.

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Weeks 15 and 16 looked impressive in the box scores against a couple atrocious defeneses, but they were sandwiched between two bad games against Denver and Cleveland. He also had an absolute disaster of a game against Jax. So in his 8 games after coming back, three of them were absolute killers. He still has trouble hitting recievers in stride, often throwing balls high and/or behind the receivers getting them killed. He has a tendency to lock onto his primary target. At one of the games he played in the 2nd half of the season a couple of us were in the stands calling out to each other who the pass would go to as he dropped back based on where he turned his head to look. We were right so often that after a while it wasn't funny anymore. You'd think in 3 years the guy could learn to look off the defense or make a progression through his receivers once in a while.I really wanted to give him a chance last year, and in some ways it's unfortunate he didn't get a full season. I'm no GM, but I saw enough badness in the games he played to say I'm ready for the team to try just about anything else at this point.

 

[Banger]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

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Totals: 1799  11 12  and he missed 8 games he had week 15/16 3td games and Boller had a 3 td game aginst Cincy defense week 12 . Boller has really only had 2 seasons to develop and 2 out of the 3 he had no receivers..Travis Taylor and Ismail come on..Are you kidding???? When your TE is the best receiver you got that's a problem and yes Ravens have taken care of that need with Mason and Clayton but Boller was out for 8 games during that season and he had 7 games to show what he has got really 3 games to shake off the rust. I think it would be a mistake to break this kid's confidence. I still think he has a great arm and deserves this season to prove the investment was worth it. If he starts to suck then bring in McNair. The leash would be short...I think Boller could be a sleeper this season. I'm not saying this because I own Boller in my Dynasty league. I'm plenty stacked at QB, I just think 3 years is not enough to fully develop a qb.

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Weeks 15 and 16 looked impressive in the box scores against a couple atrocious defeneses, but they were sandwiched between two bad games against Denver and Cleveland. He also had an absolute disaster of a game against Jax. So in his 8 games after coming back, three of them were absolute killers. He still has trouble hitting recievers in stride, often throwing balls high and/or behind the receivers getting them killed. He has a tendency to lock onto his primary target. At one of the games he played in the 2nd half of the season a couple of us were in the stands calling out to each other who the pass would go to as he dropped back based on where he turned his head to look. We were right so often that after a while it wasn't funny anymore. You'd think in 3 years the guy could learn to look off the defense or make a progression through his receivers once in a while.I really wanted to give him a chance last year, and in some ways it's unfortunate he didn't get a full season. I'm no GM, but I saw enough badness in the games he played to say I'm ready for the team to try just about anything else at this point.

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Agreed, Boller is terrible and to get excited over a 3 td game after 3 years as a qb is pretty sad. They are through with the Boller experiment. They've given him enough time and wasted enough seasons with him. Billick is playing for his job and he's not dumb enough to hitch it to Boller yet AGAIN.

 

[BoltBacker]

The threat isnt that the Titans won't cut McNair.

Its that they won't do so until July, making him virtually useless to the Ravens as their potential starter.

The Ravens will cave.

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Diesel posts some good stuff on this board. This is a cantidate for his worst post ever.

 

[flapgreen]

What was once my 2nd favorite team in the Titans has turned into my most hated team. This entire situation makes me sick. I hope the Titans franchise fails miserably. What an embarrassment.

 

[BoltBacker]

They are through with the Boller experiment.  They've given him enough time and wasted enough seasons with him.

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I'm just curious..... how old do you think Bollers is? Seems like plenty of people are willing to label a 24y/o first round QB a bust. How many QBs younger than 24 have played well in the NFL? Let's see a top ten list please, not just recently.. I mean EVER.

 

[BoltBacker]

What was once my 2nd favorite team in the Titans has turned into my most hated team.  This entire situation makes me sick.  I hope the Titans franchise fails miserably.  What an embarrassment.

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I've always liked the Titans as well and completely understood the George situation, business is business fair enough, but the McNair situation is going to leave the entire franchise with egg on its face. Especially if McNair lands in BAL for nothing and then leads BAL into the playoffs while TEN experiences more growing pains trying to develop a rookie QB as their franchise player. Floyd Reece looks like he's trying to play checkers in a chess tournament.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

Teams don't give $11m to a QB to come in as the back up.
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What's Boller making???
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~$1.6m in yr 4 of his rookie contract. Next year is ~$800k
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How about his signing bonus had to be alot more than 11 million. McNair's broken up over 3 years or so I hope...I can't believe they would pay that kind of money for a wash up elderly player..I hear Joe Nameth is still tossing the pigskin around..He could probaly get a few million from the Ravens then...Who is handling the money for the Ravens???..That's a huge investment for a guy who may last 1 season most likely injured at some point. I was tossing the ball around with my 85 yr old grandfather at the park...ya know he still can put a little zip on the ball and gets around on his cane not too bad he'll sign for league min. That 11 million better be just for face money and broken up somehow. I just can't see why they did not go after a better free agent if that's the plan..we need to revisit this thread say week 6...I'm a big boy and can admit if I'm wrong...I just really can't see the logic behind this please someone explain how Mcnair is the answer to me..."really" I want to understand it...Get preschool with me...I must just be stubborn...BECAUSE if this is the plan..I just lost alot of respect for Billick and Newsome...and I have to say I think Newsome is one of the smartest guys in the NFL right now. Billick ..hmmm I don't know how I feel about him...I can't wait till the Bengals play the Ravens.
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I can't find information on Boller's contract, but he was drafted 1.19 in 2003. Last year's #19, Alex Barron, signed a contract for a TOTAL of just over $9m with escalators that could take it to a total of $11m. Given that information and the NFL's slotting system for rookies, you can pretty much guarantee that Boller's signing bonus was muchless than $11m.

 

[Football Jones Junior]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

Teams don't give $11m to a QB to come in as the back up.
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What's Boller making???
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~$1.6m in yr 4 of his rookie contract. Next year is ~$800k
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How about his signing bonus had to be alot more than 11 million. McNair's broken up over 3 years or so I hope...I can't believe they would pay that kind of money for a wash up elderly player..I hear Joe Nameth is still tossing the pigskin around..He could probaly get a few million from the Ravens then...Who is handling the money for the Ravens???..That's a huge investment for a guy who may last 1 season most likely injured at some point. I was tossing the ball around with my 85 yr old grandfather at the park...ya know he still can put a little zip on the ball and gets around on his cane not too bad he'll sign for league min. That 11 million better be just for face money and broken up somehow. I just can't see why they did not go after a better free agent if that's the plan..we need to revisit this thread say week 6...I'm a big boy and can admit if I'm wrong...I just really can't see the logic behind this please someone explain how Mcnair is the answer to me..."really" I want to understand it...Get preschool with me...I must just be stubborn...BECAUSE if this is the plan..I just lost alot of respect for Billick and Newsome...and I have to say I think Newsome is one of the smartest guys in the NFL right now. Billick ..hmmm I don't know how I feel about him...I can't wait till the Bengals play the Ravens.
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I can't find information on Boller's contract, but he was drafted 1.19 in 2003. Last year's #19, Alex Barron, signed a contract for a TOTAL of just over $9m with escalators that could take it to a total of $11m. Given that information and the NFL's slotting system for rookies, you can pretty much guarantee that Boller's signing bonus was muchless than $11m.
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Boller signed a five-year, worth up to $20 million contract with the Ravens in July 2003, the Washington Post reports.Boller, Kyle

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Player Info

Draft Info

QB (#)

Year: 2003

Baltimore Ravens

Round: 1

Owings Mills, MD

Position: 19

Salary History

2003 655000.00

2004 306250.00

2005 1470000.00

2006 1633750.00

2007 797500.00

 

[David Yudkin]

Here are the terms of Boller's contract . . .

QB Kyle Boller, California (No. 19 overall):

Signing bonus: $2,200,000.

Base salaries: $655,000 (2003)

$818,750 (2004, plus $2,050,000 option bonus)

$982,500 (2005)

$1,146,000 (2006)

$797,500 (2007)

Notes: If team exercises option bonus, base salaries reduced to $306,200 (2004); $470,000 (2005); $563,000 (2006). Total: five years, $7,041,000. Cap charge: $1,095,000.

LINKUnless he renegotiated, I don't see where $20 million is coming from.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Wow..It cracks me up people actually believe the job is just going to be handed to McNair. I still believe it's Boller's going into the season so big deal they don't release him till July or even August. Boller started coming on towards the end of the year.

Teams don't give $11m to a QB to come in as the back up.
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What's Boller making???
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~$1.6m in yr 4 of his rookie contract. Next year is ~$800k
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How about his signing bonus had to be alot more than 11 million. McNair's broken up over 3 years or so I hope...I can't believe they would pay that kind of money for a wash up elderly player..I hear Joe Nameth is still tossing the pigskin around..He could probaly get a few million from the Ravens then...Who is handling the money for the Ravens???..That's a huge investment for a guy who may last 1 season most likely injured at some point. I was tossing the ball around with my 85 yr old grandfather at the park...ya know he still can put a little zip on the ball and gets around on his cane not too bad he'll sign for league min. That 11 million better be just for face money and broken up somehow. I just can't see why they did not go after a better free agent if that's the plan..we need to revisit this thread say week 6...I'm a big boy and can admit if I'm wrong...I just really can't see the logic behind this please someone explain how Mcnair is the answer to me..."really" I want to understand it...Get preschool with me...I must just be stubborn...BECAUSE if this is the plan..I just lost alot of respect for Billick and Newsome...and I have to say I think Newsome is one of the smartest guys in the NFL right now. Billick ..hmmm I don't know how I feel about him...I can't wait till the Bengals play the Ravens.
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I can't find information on Boller's contract, but he was drafted 1.19 in 2003. Last year's #19, Alex Barron, signed a contract for a TOTAL of just over $9m with escalators that could take it to a total of $11m. Given that information and the NFL's slotting system for rookies, you can pretty much guarantee that Boller's signing bonus was muchless than $11m.
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Boller signed a five-year, worth up to $20 million contract with the Ravens in July 2003, the Washington Post reports.
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Interesting. Any details? How much of that was escalators and incentives, and what did he need to do to hit them? Any note of what his actual signing bonus was? I'm just curious how much of that was funny-money because that's a lot more than most 1.19s get.

 

[Football Jones Junior]

Here are the terms of Boller's contract . . .

QB Kyle Boller, California (No. 19 overall):

Signing bonus: $2,200,000.

Base salaries: $655,000 (2003)

$818,750 (2004, plus $2,050,000 option bonus)

$982,500 (2005)

$1,146,000 (2006)

$797,500 (2007)

Notes: If team exercises option bonus, base salaries reduced to $306,200 (2004); $470,000 (2005); $563,000 (2006). Total: five years, $7,041,000. Cap charge: $1,095,000.

LINKUnless he renegotiated, I don't see where $20 million is coming from.

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Kyle Boller's ContractThats where i got that from.