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Steven Jackson benched? (1 Viewer)

My comments have nothing to do with FF. I'm a fan of Jackson. Fisher knows so much he muddled around the AFC South for years and was finally run out of town.

There have also been good right handed and left handed players. What's your point? A rookie RB who had many dud runs, a couple of nice plays and a fumble. That describes a lot of backup RBs in the league.
I initially had similar thoughts - 14 pedestrian runs, and one good run. But, here is a list of RBs that had 50+ yard runs last year. It is not easy to rip off a 50-yard run in the NFL. How many would you describe as garden-variety back-ups?1 DeMarco Murray

2 Jahvid Best

3 Michael Turner

4 Fred Jackson

Donald Brown

6 Reggie Bush

Jonathan Dwyer

8 DeAngelo Williams

9 Beanie Wells

10 Darren McFadden

Ray Rice

12 Rashard Mendenhall

13 Toby Gerhart

15 Willis McGahee

LeSean McCoy

17 Maurice Jones-Drew

Ben Tate

19 Frank Gore

20 Adrian Peterson

LeGarrette Blount

Richardson is a backup to Steven Jackson, and I would not pick him up expecting that he would steal the starting gig from Jackson. But, he has starting RB skills, and if given an opportunity, I expect that he could perform as a RB2 right now. In a dynasty league, I picked him up with a late-round rookie draft pick, and in deep leagues, I would be surprised if he is not already on someone's roster, if he is not, pick him up, and see how he develops. I would not pick him up in a re-draft (unless I had Jackson), nor would I pick him up in a basic 2 or 3-player keeper league.
Player in bold totally discredits the entire list.
He was 3rd in the league last year and averaged 4.5/carry He may have fallen off a cliff this year, but last year he was a RB1 in just about any league
 
My comments have nothing to do with FF. I'm a fan of Jackson. Fisher knows so much he muddled around the AFC South for years and was finally run out of town.

There have also been good right handed and left handed players. What's your point? A rookie RB who had many dud runs, a couple of nice plays and a fumble. That describes a lot of backup RBs in the league.
I initially had similar thoughts - 14 pedestrian runs, and one good run. But, here is a list of RBs that had 50+ yard runs last year. It is not easy to rip off a 50-yard run in the NFL. How many would you describe as garden-variety back-ups?1 DeMarco Murray

2 Jahvid Best

3 Michael Turner

4 Fred Jackson

Donald Brown

6 Reggie Bush

Jonathan Dwyer

8 DeAngelo Williams

9 Beanie Wells

10 Darren McFadden

Ray Rice

12 Rashard Mendenhall

13 Toby Gerhart

15 Willis McGahee

LeSean McCoy

17 Maurice Jones-Drew

Ben Tate

19 Frank Gore

20 Adrian Peterson

LeGarrette Blount

Richardson is a backup to Steven Jackson, and I would not pick him up expecting that he would steal the starting gig from Jackson. But, he has starting RB skills, and if given an opportunity, I expect that he could perform as a RB2 right now. In a dynasty league, I picked him up with a late-round rookie draft pick, and in deep leagues, I would be surprised if he is not already on someone's roster, if he is not, pick him up, and see how he develops. I would not pick him up in a re-draft (unless I had Jackson), nor would I pick him up in a basic 2 or 3-player keeper league.
Player in bold totally discredits the entire list.
He was 3rd in the league last year and averaged 4.5/carry He may have fallen off a cliff this year, but last year he was a RB1 in just about any league
Well he falls of a cliff during the month of Dec. every year, he just so happened to start early this year. However, he's always been a plodder. My comment was mostly a joke but seriously, if Turner can do it, anyone can do it.
 
My comments have nothing to do with FF. I'm a fan of Jackson. Fisher knows so much he muddled around the AFC South for years and was finally run out of town.

There have also been good right handed and left handed players. What's your point? A rookie RB who had many dud runs, a couple of nice plays and a fumble. That describes a lot of backup RBs in the league.
I initially had similar thoughts - 14 pedestrian runs, and one good run. But, here is a list of RBs that had 50+ yard runs last year. It is not easy to rip off a 50-yard run in the NFL. How many would you describe as garden-variety back-ups?1 DeMarco Murray

2 Jahvid Best

3 Michael Turner

4 Fred Jackson

Donald Brown

6 Reggie Bush

Jonathan Dwyer

8 DeAngelo Williams

9 Beanie Wells

10 Darren McFadden

Ray Rice

12 Rashard Mendenhall

13 Toby Gerhart

15 Willis McGahee

LeSean McCoy

17 Maurice Jones-Drew

Ben Tate

19 Frank Gore

20 Adrian Peterson

LeGarrette Blount

Richardson is a backup to Steven Jackson, and I would not pick him up expecting that he would steal the starting gig from Jackson. But, he has starting RB skills, and if given an opportunity, I expect that he could perform as a RB2 right now. In a dynasty league, I picked him up with a late-round rookie draft pick, and in deep leagues, I would be surprised if he is not already on someone's roster, if he is not, pick him up, and see how he develops. I would not pick him up in a re-draft (unless I had Jackson), nor would I pick him up in a basic 2 or 3-player keeper league.
Player in bold totally discredits the entire list.
He was 3rd in the league last year and averaged 4.5/carry He may have fallen off a cliff this year, but last year he was a RB1 in just about any league
Well he falls of a cliff during the month of Dec. every year, he just so happened to start early this year. However, he's always been a plodder. My comment was mostly a joke but seriously, if Turner can do it, anyone can do it.
:confused: "Turner the Burner" has always been a plodder?
 
SJax could be a GTD Sunday, better grab Richardson just in case:

Steven Jackson (groin) was held out of Wednesday's practice, and is considered day-to-day.

It's possible Jackson could be held out of practice all week and still start against the Bears, so there's no reason to worry yet. His status should clarify in the next 48 hours, but it's quite possible he'll end up a game-time decision. We suspect he'll play, but owners need to have a contingency plan

 
My comments have nothing to do with FF. I'm a fan of Jackson. Fisher knows so much he muddled around the AFC South for years and was finally run out of town.

There have also been good right handed and left handed players. What's your point? A rookie RB who had many dud runs, a couple of nice plays and a fumble. That describes a lot of backup RBs in the league.
I initially had similar thoughts - 14 pedestrian runs, and one good run. But, here is a list of RBs that had 50+ yard runs last year. It is not easy to rip off a 50-yard run in the NFL. How many would you describe as garden-variety back-ups?1 DeMarco Murray

2 Jahvid Best

3 Michael Turner

4 Fred Jackson

Donald Brown

6 Reggie Bush

Jonathan Dwyer

8 DeAngelo Williams

9 Beanie Wells

10 Darren McFadden

Ray Rice

12 Rashard Mendenhall

13 Toby Gerhart

15 Willis McGahee

LeSean McCoy

17 Maurice Jones-Drew

Ben Tate

19 Frank Gore

20 Adrian Peterson

LeGarrette Blount

Richardson is a backup to Steven Jackson, and I would not pick him up expecting that he would steal the starting gig from Jackson. But, he has starting RB skills, and if given an opportunity, I expect that he could perform as a RB2 right now. In a dynasty league, I picked him up with a late-round rookie draft pick, and in deep leagues, I would be surprised if he is not already on someone's roster, if he is not, pick him up, and see how he develops. I would not pick him up in a re-draft (unless I had Jackson), nor would I pick him up in a basic 2 or 3-player keeper league.
Player in bold totally discredits the entire list.
He was 3rd in the league last year and averaged 4.5/carry He may have fallen off a cliff this year, but last year he was a RB1 in just about any league
Well he falls of a cliff during the month of Dec. every year, he just so happened to start early this year. However, he's always been a plodder. My comment was mostly a joke but seriously, if Turner can do it, anyone can do it.
:confused: "Turner the Burner" has always been a plodder?
Yeah, makes no sense.
 
Nice that Richardson looked good, but Sjax should still be the guy.I love what Fisher did. He is a coach with a new team, and he has the cred to bench the superstar when the superstar does something wrong. Reread some of the stuff in this thread. Fisher shouldn't lay the wood because SJax has been playing for a bad team for years? :lmao: That's Fisher's problem? Tough noogies, SJax. Did your checks cash OK? Good. This guy ain't the first good player to play for a bad team.
he celebrated what he thought was a touchdown with a standard spike. that warrants a benching in a close game where he's averaging almost 7 yards per carry?the injury story makes more sense here.
 
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My comments have nothing to do with FF. I'm a fan of Jackson. Fisher knows so much he muddled around the AFC South for years and was finally run out of town.

There have also been good right handed and left handed players. What's your point? A rookie RB who had many dud runs, a couple of nice plays and a fumble. That describes a lot of backup RBs in the league.
I initially had similar thoughts - 14 pedestrian runs, and one good run. But, here is a list of RBs that had 50+ yard runs last year. It is not easy to rip off a 50-yard run in the NFL. How many would you describe as garden-variety back-ups?1 DeMarco Murray

2 Jahvid Best

3 Michael Turner

4 Fred Jackson

Donald Brown

6 Reggie Bush

Jonathan Dwyer

8 DeAngelo Williams

9 Beanie Wells

10 Darren McFadden

Ray Rice

12 Rashard Mendenhall

13 Toby Gerhart

15 Willis McGahee

LeSean McCoy

17 Maurice Jones-Drew

Ben Tate

19 Frank Gore

20 Adrian Peterson

LeGarrette Blount

Richardson is a backup to Steven Jackson, and I would not pick him up expecting that he would steal the starting gig from Jackson. But, he has starting RB skills, and if given an opportunity, I expect that he could perform as a RB2 right now. In a dynasty league, I picked him up with a late-round rookie draft pick, and in deep leagues, I would be surprised if he is not already on someone's roster, if he is not, pick him up, and see how he develops. I would not pick him up in a re-draft (unless I had Jackson), nor would I pick him up in a basic 2 or 3-player keeper league.
Player in bold totally discredits the entire list.
actually it really doesn't
 
I'm a S-Jax owner who grabbed D-Rich thanks in large part to the SP thread on him.

My concern now is this:

S-Jax was drafted, at least by me, mostly because of the workload he figured to get. I still think he's one of the more talented and versatile backs in the league. The team/offense didnt look too good headed into the season but the touches were pretty much all Jackson's.

Now that D-Rich has shown he's capable, how much does he it eat into S-Jax's opportunities? With both healthy its feasible that D-Rich gets enough touches, especially on 3rd downs, to really put a dent in SJax's production and reduce him from RB2 to RB3 or less status. Particularly if the Rams are not going to suddenly turn into an offensive juggernaut, this should be the concern.

 
if Turner can do it, anyone can do it.
The same guy who used to average 6 yards per carry during his days with the Chargers and ran a 4.5 40 at the combine?
Yeah, Turner appears to have fallen off a cliff this year, which often happens with NFL RBs.But for all the jokes people make about him now, the guy was a very good RB for a number of years and combined decent big play ability with his powerful, hard to tackle running style.
 
Nice that Richardson looked good, but Sjax should still be the guy.I love what Fisher did. He is a coach with a new team, and he has the cred to bench the superstar when the superstar does something wrong. Reread some of the stuff in this thread. Fisher shouldn't lay the wood because SJax has been playing for a bad team for years? :lmao: That's Fisher's problem? Tough noogies, SJax. Did your checks cash OK? Good. This guy ain't the first good player to play for a bad team.
he celebrated what he thought was a touchdown with a standard spike. that warrants a benching in a close game where he's averaging almost 7 yards per carry?the injury story makes more sense here.
I have no objectivity.Have met SJax on several occasions. He's a complete tool.
 
if Turner can do it, anyone can do it.
The same guy who used to average 6 yards per carry during his days with the Chargers and ran a 4.5 40 at the combine?
He played for the Chargers and ran a 4.5 40 last year? The list is from last year.#### people, I was mostly joking. I know it's hard to tell via the internet.
well, it was more than just a 50-yard run, it was an 81-yard run in the 2nd last game of the season against a team in Tampa who had completely given up.I was more surprised to see guys like Blount, Wells, and Mendenhall on the list.
 
If Jackson can't go Sunday, look for plenty of Daryl Richardson, with some Isaiah Pead sprinkled in.

"I think both of 'em can step in and make plays for us," Fisher said. "We even like Terrance (Ganaway). Terrance has got some run skills. So if 'Jack' can't go, we'll get the game done with the three of them."

All three are rookies. A strong training camp and preseason made Richardson the surprise winner of the backup job ahead of second-round pick Pead. After rushing for 103 yards on 17 carries in his first two NFL games, Richardson appears to have earned the full trust of Fisher — to the point that Fisher says the game plan won't have to be adjusted if Richardson starts.

"There's nothing that he can't do at this point," Fisher said. "He's a good, hard runner. He runs inside, outside, understands protections, and he showed last week that he can catch it out of the backfield."

He's made a believer out of Jackson as well.

"He has an amazing burst that we all see," Jackson said. "Not only does he have burst, but he has the capability of being a dual threat. He can catch the ball out of the backfield and make things happen. Anytime you get him a crease like that, it's a potential for a home run."
my link
 
Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson (groin) is listed as questionable for Week 3 against the Bears and will be a game-time decision.He didn't practice again on Friday. Coach Jeff Fisher says the decision to play or not to play Jackson will be "made closer to game time," indicating he'll make the trip to Soldier Field and be worked out early Sunday.
:popcorn:
 
if Jackson does start, you have to have some real stones to play him. I would like to see him play and how they work DRich in before starting sjax again...

 
if Jackson does start, you have to have some real stones to play him. I would like to see him play and how they work DRich in before starting sjax again...
If he's your RB2, what sort of RB3s will you confidently sit him for? On my team, if he plays he starts.
 
if Jackson does start, you have to have some real stones to play him. I would like to see him play and how they work DRich in before starting sjax again...
After watching CHI fail to tackle Benson and Brown on numerous plays, I think SJax is a must-start if he gives it a go. He's more talented than Benson and Brown combined. CHI does not have the same rush defense they did last year.
 
if Jackson does start, you have to have some real stones to play him. I would like to see him play and how they work DRich in before starting sjax again...
After watching CHI fail to tackle Benson and Brown on numerous plays, I think SJax is a must-start if he gives it a go. He's more talented than Benson and Brown combined. CHI does not have the same rush defense they did last year.
would you sit DMC for SJAX if he plays?
 
if Jackson does start, you have to have some real stones to play him. I would like to see him play and how they work DRich in before starting sjax again...
After watching CHI fail to tackle Benson and Brown on numerous plays, I think SJax is a must-start if he gives it a go. He's more talented than Benson and Brown combined. CHI does not have the same rush defense they did last year.
would you sit DMC for SJAX if he plays?
Yikes. No, I personally wouldn't. DMC is one of the top five most talented RBs right now. No Harrison or Polamalu should help his case this week.
 
if Jackson does start, you have to have some real stones to play him. I would like to see him play and how they work DRich in before starting sjax again...
After watching CHI fail to tackle Benson and Brown on numerous plays, I think SJax is a must-start if he gives it a go. He's more talented than Benson and Brown combined. CHI does not have the same rush defense they did last year.
would you sit DMC for SJAX if he plays?
Yikes. No, I personally wouldn't. DMC is one of the top five most talented RBs right now. No Harrison or Polamalu should help his case this week.
I agree with everything you say. just trying to see how high on SJAX you were. as a rb2 you could do a whole lot worse than sjax this week. I was just trying to say it would be nice to see him in action once before throwing him into the starting lineup again...
 
Im a DJax owner and I am sitting him. In My Opinion: He may play, but I expect Chicago to be too jacked up for this game playing at home.

The Bears looked bad last game. Horrible as a team. They argued amongst themselves on national tv with the bump seen round the world. 4 Interceptions. TD Drops. Sloppy play. Key injuries. And then the NFL gives these animals an extra 3 days to prepare.

I think the Rams are coming into Chicago playing better than I have seen them play for years. But my gut tells me that they are walking into a buzzsaw. Probably a good, tough game. Low scoring. Maybe a 13-17.

 
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Im a DJax owner and I am sitting him. In My Opinion: He may play, but I expect Chicago to be too jacked up for this game playing at home. The Bears looked bad last game. Horrible as a team. They argued amongst themselves on national tv with the bump seen round the world. 4 Interceptions. TD Drops. Sloppy play. Key injuries. And then the NFL gives these animals an extra 3 days to prepare. I think the Rams are coming into Chicago playing better than I have seen them play for years. But my gut tells me that they are walking into a buzzsaw. Probably a good, tough game. Low scoring. Maybe a 13-17.
I think Chicago will blow them out. 31 to 10
 
Im a DJax owner and I am sitting him. In My Opinion: He may play, but I expect Chicago to be too jacked up for this game playing at home. The Bears looked bad last game. Horrible as a team. They argued amongst themselves on national tv with the bump seen round the world. 4 Interceptions. TD Drops. Sloppy play. Key injuries. And then the NFL gives these animals an extra 3 days to prepare. I think the Rams are coming into Chicago playing better than I have seen them play for years. But my gut tells me that they are walking into a buzzsaw. Probably a good, tough game. Low scoring. Maybe a 13-17.
I think Chicago will blow them out. 31 to 10
The Rams DBs are young and playing great. Jenkins is just as good as Hayden, maybe better. Both were great Gators.
 
any news on SJAX?
Per Roto:Steven Jackson confirms he came out of Sunday's loss without further injury."Came out of this clean," Jackson said after being limited to 29 yards on 11 carries. "I just wish that I could've been more productive and helped my team win." Jackson should be healthier for Week 4, but has a date with a Seahawks' run defense that's allowed just 92 yards through two games.
 
He was held out of practice today, we'll know more in a second. This is going to be a regular occurrence for him I believe, injured or not.

 
any news on SJAX?
Per Roto:Steven Jackson confirms he came out of Sunday's loss without further injury."Came out of this clean," Jackson said after being limited to 29 yards on 11 carries. "I just wish that I could've been more productive and helped my team win." Jackson should be healthier for Week 4, but has a date with a Seahawks' run defense that's allowed just 92 yards through two games.
That and what I thought was an pretty nice schedule other than SF became a nightmare as ARI and SEA can stop the run.
 
any news on SJAX?
Per Roto:Steven Jackson confirms he came out of Sunday's loss without further injury."Came out of this clean," Jackson said after being limited to 29 yards on 11 carries. "I just wish that I could've been more productive and helped my team win." Jackson should be healthier for Week 4, but has a date with a Seahawks' run defense that's allowed just 92 yards through two games.
That and what I thought was an pretty nice schedule other than SF became a nightmare as ARI and SEA can stop the run.
His schedule is honestly awful. He plays SEA, ARI and MIA next, all extremely stout rush defenses. Then he plays SF twice, ARI again, NE once, MIN once and SEA in week 17 (non consequential). He has one of the worst schedules I've seen.
 
Steven Jackson (groin) was held out of Rams practice Wednesday.

Jackson confirmed Monday that he escaped Sunday's loss without further injury, so the Rams are just exercising caution as they prepare to play two games in five days. Jackson didn't look quite 100 percent against the Bears, however, and has an awful Week 4 matchup in the Seahawks' No. 2 run defense. He might be best limited to flex duties Sunday.
 
While his schedule is unfavorable, I still expect him to rack up a ton of receiving yards via checkdowns from Bradford. Hopefully he can muster 100 AP yards per game and an occasional TD would be nice.

 
SJax last year vs Seahawks:

Week 11 at STL 15 carries 42 yards 3 receptions 19 yards

Week 14 at SEA 20 carries 63 yards 1 TD, 3 receptions 60 yards

 
He was held out of practice today, we'll know more in a second. This is going to be a regular occurrence for him I believe, injured or not.
He almost always plays even when he doesn't practice, going by the last few years. Not really endorsing him for this week since its a pretty tough matchup, but I'd be very surprised if he were inactive.
 
I could see it developing into more of a RBBC regardless of his health if Richardson keeps showing well.

It's not like Jackson is part of this team's future.

 
any news on SJAX?
Per Roto:Steven Jackson confirms he came out of Sunday's loss without further injury."Came out of this clean," Jackson said after being limited to 29 yards on 11 carries. "I just wish that I could've been more productive and helped my team win." Jackson should be healthier for Week 4, but has a date with a Seahawks' run defense that's allowed just 92 yards through two games.
That and what I thought was an pretty nice schedule other than SF became a nightmare as ARI and SEA can stop the run.
His schedule is honestly awful. He plays SEA, ARI and MIA next, all extremely stout rush defenses. Then he plays SF twice, ARI again, NE once, MIN once and SEA in week 17 (non consequential). He has one of the worst schedules I've seen.
I really regret drafting him....
 
While his schedule is unfavorable, I still expect him to rack up a ton of receiving yards via checkdowns from Bradford. Hopefully he can muster 100 AP yards per game and an occasional TD would be nice.
Same, I'm treating him as a low-end RB2 this week (so is essentially every "expert"), not a flex. He came out of last weeks game no worse for the wear and we saw Rodgers check down to Benson a bunch last week. I think 20 for 60-80 and 3-4 receptions for 20-40 is a very distinct possibility this week. Don't count Sjax out just yet.Also, if he does well, I'm sure everyone and their mothers will be trying to ship him off. My fingers are crossed.
I could see it developing into more of a RBBC regardless of his health if Richardson keeps showing well. It's not like Jackson is part of this team's future.
I doubt that. Even with Sjax nowhere near 100%, Richardson saw very little work. It will take a serious injury for Richardson to become fantasy relevant.
 
I could see it developing into more of a RBBC regardless of his health if Richardson keeps showing well. It's not like Jackson is part of this team's future.
I doubt that. Even with Sjax nowhere near 100%, Richardson saw very little work. It will take a serious injury for Richardson to become fantasy relevant.
If he keeps doubling Jackson's YPC, it will be tough to keep him off the field. He is not as strong, but he is far more explosive at this point.
 
I could see it developing into more of a RBBC regardless of his health if Richardson keeps showing well. It's not like Jackson is part of this team's future.
I doubt that. Even with Sjax nowhere near 100%, Richardson saw very little work. It will take a serious injury for Richardson to become fantasy relevant.
If he keeps doubling Jackson's YPC, it will be tough to keep him off the field. He is not as strong, but he is far more explosive at this point.
On four carries? That's a small sample size. Sjax at far less than 100% broke off just as large of a gain (13 yards) as Richardson (12) did in that game. They both got bottled up on the rest of their carries. I understand that people want to see more of Richardson, but Sjax isn't nearly as "washed up" as he's being portrayed, it's just wishful thinking at this point. Anyone who thinks he's lost it needs to go back and watch the 1rst quarter of the game vs. WAS. He still looks leagues better than many RBs who saw a drop off around a similar time in their careers. If he can stay healthy (the ultimate kicker at this point, not performance), there's just no way Richardson sees more than a 5-10 touches a game. Hopefully he practices tomorrow.
 
Man that lingering groin injury. Can't put too much trust in him until he sees a fuller workload. Agreed, that schedule is rough.

 
I've tried shopping him around with no success - not really surprising since he hasn't had a great start to the year. I thought I was getting a high end RB2 this year on the cheap with a shot at low end RB1 numbers, but now that schedule looks so awful. What are people doing with him?

 
I've tried shopping him around with no success - not really surprising since he hasn't had a great start to the year. I thought I was getting a high end RB2 this year on the cheap with a shot at low end RB1 numbers, but now that schedule looks so awful. What are people doing with him?
Wait for him to put together a decent PPR day (pray for a TD) and then ship him off. I'm not counting on many people actually looking at his schedule.
 
Tough schedule, banged up, offense is sputtering, miles on the tires, etc etc. Guess I'll see if I can trade him to the CJ owner.

Oh wait, thats me. :wall:

I think his value most weeks will come from 4-5 catches for 30-40 yards. Mix in 30-50 on the ground and you got yourself an RB2... :rolleyes:

 
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He was held out of practice again today. I don't think Sjax is going to practice once from now until at least after his Thursday night game vs. ARI next week. Haha, literally nothing is going his way.

 

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