Steven Jackson, RB, St. Louis Rams (1 Viewer)

[Bri]

wont touch. Him or Gore or turner.the wheels are about to come off. Dont be that guy.

I would love to hear your reasoning on this.. Yes I agree they aren't as appealing as a couple years ago but you act like they are all done for. But I did avoid them in my start up unless I got s-jax or turner at a good value

I love Steven Jackson and his style of playing RB in the NFL. He is a brute though and he runs to both give out hits and take em'. Even his dearest fans can't ignore that he has taken a ton of huge hits during his career.Last season as he clearly started to wear down, he started doing what nearly retired backs do and claiming others need to be held accountable and (obviously) worrying (but not saying) that he'll never get to play in a big game again and all that. You could see future concerns on his face in interviews. If he is concerned, conjecture at some MB is kind of pointless. I would guess "Steven Jackson accountable" will get you some videos if you feel like googling. If you want to say that he sees the end and is motivated...ok then, but I saw a guy winding down his career in many interviews last year. Fisher will definitely run him into the ground. I could see one more good year out of Jackson but if that's the case he's going to sit some with injury and everyone that owned him in FF knows that is (sadly) near certain.I do not see how Steven's career lasts much longer. His style, his desire to carry a team on his back, Fisher's desire to let RBs do that...this doesn't make me figure Jax will be playing a lot longer but instead like he's going to be worn out that much quicker

 

[xenon]

Im high on him this year, in the mid-3rd or later. You people talking about taking him in the early to mid-2nd is kind of crazy. Now maybe he's gone by your 3rd pick, but Id say that's 50/50 at worst considering the glut of RBs and WRs in that range. SJax is a value guy just for that reason, he always seems to slide in drafts. No need to use a 2nd rounder on him. If anything, go with an upside RB pick like DMC, MJD, or Murray with your 1st or 2nd pick then go after SJax in the 3rd to minimize the risk with your first RB.

I don't know about anybody else, but I've done quite a bit of mocking (from the 9 spot in a 12 team) and while I am contemplate Sjax for my second round pick in my real draft, I don't think I've seen him last past the second round/early 3rd at the latest. If anything and in my opinion, he presents great value if he makes it to the 3rd round AS a #2 RB on your squad or #1 RB if you grabbed Megatron or a QB with your first pick..

You say "considering the glut of RB's"...and there's not this year. You comment on the likes of DMC and Murray both of whom ARE being drafted before Sjax and if you draft either of those guys, if you don't take Sjax with your second overall pick, you are chances of being able to do so in the third or later as you suggest are basically ZERO.

He is an undisputed #1 RB on a team that is NOT rbbc. New coach, new scheme + he catches the ball.

So what makes SJax that much better than guys like Gore and Turner whose stock has also significantly dropped this offseason?! They are all essentially the same age, I would guess that SJax may even have the most carries of the 3 of them, and yet Gore and Turner both had more rushing yards and TDs last year (while total yards were very close with all). Gore and Turner are both in undoubtedly better offenses, yet their current ADP is about a round lower than SJax based on ADP the last few days.Like I said, I like SJax this year, just trying to put things into perspective. Id rather have Gore or Turner in the 4th than SJax in the 2nd.

Good Points..and YES, of the three, Turner was the better choice last year. I guess it boils down to preference and what position you are drafting from and how many teams are in your league. If in a PPR league, with all things being equal to start a new year, advantage SJax. If I were you, I'd mock some drafts from whatever draft position you have to see if you can get any one of these guys in the 4th round as you think you will. Because if you are in the last half of the fourth, It's wishful thinking as far as I can tell. So having said that, I hope you have at least one good RB on your roster that drafted prior. Good Luck.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Im high on him this year, in the mid-3rd or later. You people talking about taking him in the early to mid-2nd is kind of crazy. Now maybe he's gone by your 3rd pick, but Id say that's 50/50 at worst considering the glut of RBs and WRs in that range. SJax is a value guy just for that reason, he always seems to slide in drafts. No need to use a 2nd rounder on him. If anything, go with an upside RB pick like DMC, MJD, or Murray with your 1st or 2nd pick then go after SJax in the 3rd to minimize the risk with your first RB.

I don't know about anybody else, but I've done quite a bit of mocking (from the 9 spot in a 12 team) and while I am contemplate Sjax for my second round pick in my real draft, I don't think I've seen him last past the second round/early 3rd at the latest. If anything and in my opinion, he presents great value if he makes it to the 3rd round AS a #2 RB on your squad or #1 RB if you grabbed Megatron or a QB with your first pick..

You say "considering the glut of RB's"...and there's not this year. You comment on the likes of DMC and Murray both of whom ARE being drafted before Sjax and if you draft either of those guys, if you don't take Sjax with your second overall pick, you are chances of being able to do so in the third or later as you suggest are basically ZERO.

He is an undisputed #1 RB on a team that is NOT rbbc. New coach, new scheme + he catches the ball.

So what makes SJax that much better than guys like Gore and Turner whose stock has also significantly dropped this offseason?! They are all essentially the same age, I would guess that SJax may even have the most carries of the 3 of them, and yet Gore and Turner both had more rushing yards and TDs last year (while total yards were very close with all). Gore and Turner are both in undoubtedly better offenses, yet their current ADP is about a round lower than SJax based on ADP the last few days.Like I said, I like SJax this year, just trying to put things into perspective. Id rather have Gore or Turner in the 4th than SJax in the 2nd.

Gore and Turner have both shown they are declining on the field. Has SJax shown you anything but him being his normal self? I can't see Pead taking away carries this year unlike Turner who has Rodgers as a threat and Gore has two other backs behind him.

Have they?? SJax has shown to be his normal, semi-injury prone but tough self, in an offense that has below average upside this year. While Turner's 2nd half was not as good as his first half, it wasnt bad. As far as Ive been able to tell for months now, Gore and Turner being ranked as low end RB2's and with ADP's in the 40's has all been groupthink. Im somewhat surprised it hasnt changed as the season has gotten closer, but it hasnt. While I like Quiz and expect him to get his share of touches this year, as well as draft him late, he will not be the reason Turner loses touches or disappoints. Same for Gore. Hunter will be a change of pace, LMJames will get 5 touches or so a game, but Gore will still be the man.While I do agree at this point SJax currently appears to have the most left in him, that can change quick and those putting a fork in Turner and Gore I think will be mistaken. And once again, SJax is in the far far worse offense of the 3.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Im high on him this year, in the mid-3rd or later. You people talking about taking him in the early to mid-2nd is kind of crazy. Now maybe he's gone by your 3rd pick, but Id say that's 50/50 at worst considering the glut of RBs and WRs in that range. SJax is a value guy just for that reason, he always seems to slide in drafts. No need to use a 2nd rounder on him. If anything, go with an upside RB pick like DMC, MJD, or Murray with your 1st or 2nd pick then go after SJax in the 3rd to minimize the risk with your first RB.

I don't know about anybody else, but I've done quite a bit of mocking (from the 9 spot in a 12 team) and while I am contemplate Sjax for my second round pick in my real draft, I don't think I've seen him last past the second round/early 3rd at the latest. If anything and in my opinion, he presents great value if he makes it to the 3rd round AS a #2 RB on your squad or #1 RB if you grabbed Megatron or a QB with your first pick..

You say "considering the glut of RB's"...and there's not this year. You comment on the likes of DMC and Murray both of whom ARE being drafted before Sjax and if you draft either of those guys, if you don't take Sjax with your second overall pick, you are chances of being able to do so in the third or later as you suggest are basically ZERO.

He is an undisputed #1 RB on a team that is NOT rbbc. New coach, new scheme + he catches the ball.

So what makes SJax that much better than guys like Gore and Turner whose stock has also significantly dropped this offseason?! They are all essentially the same age, I would guess that SJax may even have the most carries of the 3 of them, and yet Gore and Turner both had more rushing yards and TDs last year (while total yards were very close with all). Gore and Turner are both in undoubtedly better offenses, yet their current ADP is about a round lower than SJax based on ADP the last few days.Like I said, I like SJax this year, just trying to put things into perspective. Id rather have Gore or Turner in the 4th than SJax in the 2nd.

Good Points..and YES, of the three, Turner was the better choice last year. I guess it boils down to preference and what position you are drafting from and how many teams are in your league. If in a PPR league, with all things being equal to start a new year, advantage SJax. If I were you, I'd mock some drafts from whatever draft position you have to see if you can get any one of these guys in the 4th round as you think you will. Because if you are in the last half of the fourth, It's wishful thinking as far as I can tell. So having said that, I hope you have at least one good RB on your roster that drafted prior. Good Luck.

Yeah, my money leagues arent PPR so that definitely does make a difference, and a postive one for SJax. I actually just finished a mock, non-PPR, and SJax went 28th, Gore 36th, Turner 38th....so essentially what I was saying was true in the case, Gore and Turner are late 3rd/early 4th rounders, and SJax isnt worth a 2nd round pick because he will be there for you in the 3rd round more often than not. Again, I mock non-PPR because thats what my leagues are, but I havent seen SJax go in the 2nd yet.I also never said it would be advisable to draft any of these guys as your RB1. so dont know where your last statement is coming from

 

[Deamon]

Sjax seems to be the guy most all over the place of any player in the top 5 rounds. Usually you can nail him down to at least a round, but FBG often puts him in the late first round, and some people here are saying they're getting him in the 4th round. While his ADP seems to bounce around the late 2nd mark, if you snag him in the 3rd I think thats incredible. I like him early 2nd round though especially if you nab QB/TE round 1, take him as your safe RB, and take another RB in round 3 and either 4 or 5.

 

[Donsmith753]

Got him at 4.01 in a 12team non ppr.

Delighted with that.

 

[unckeyherb]

2 man keeper. Got him at the 1.12-2.01 turn (3rd-4th in redraft)

 

[ponchsox]

Got him at 4.01 in a 12team non ppr. Delighted with that.

That is great value. Other sites have him ranked much lower he can be had for a discount.

 

[Arizona Ron]

I've been avoiding this guy for years. He always seems to under-perform his draft stop. I passed again this year on him and have no regrets.

 

[Donsmith753]

I've been avoiding this guy for years. He always seems to under-perform his draft stop. I passed again this year on him and have no regrets.

I've been the same as you in the past tbh. Just feel like things are right for a decent year.Not touching him in dynasty though.

 

[OnTheReg]

I am on board Jackson this year. Call it a hunch, I don't have scientific evidence to back it up. I just prefer him to guys like Lynch and Fred Jackson. Fisher loves a bell cow, and that's what Jackson will be.

 

[unckeyherb]

I've been avoiding this guy for years. He always seems to under-perform his draft stop. I passed again this year on him and have no regrets.

he's finished as RB10, 11, 11 the last three years. That kind of consistency at a 4th round pick is the definition of value.

 

[meyerj31]

I've been avoiding this guy for years. He always seems to under-perform his draft stop. I passed again this year on him and have no regrets.

he's finished as RB10, 11, 11 the last three years. That kind of consistency at a 4th round pick is the definition of value.

Chicken dinner. There's no way he lasts until the 4th in any of my drafts because I would take him any pick in the third unless someone ridiculous was available. I might downgrade him if he fell off at the end of last year (Gore, Turner), or if he had a top talent/pick right behind him (Bradshaw) but he has neither. Yea, Pead is a good talent, but every indication so far this preseason is that he's not up to speed enough to warrant a healthy dose of the backfield duties. Change of pace this year at best. Next year I think Pead is going to have some sneaky value though. Like Rice or McCoy their second seasons.

 

[ponchsox]

I sure hope Sam Bradford can move this offense down the field more this year and give SJax more TD opps. If he can add a couple more TDs to his last three year average he will put up RB1 numbers.

 

[Bonfire]

I think people are focusing on production per touch...in his case I believe his value comes in touches. He seems a lock to be top five in touches for RN this year barring injury. He has played off the injury label for me, so a possible 300 rush 40/50 catch session is money in the bank. With so many sharing teams at Rb...

 

[LHUCKS]

Solid third round pick, not enough value in the 2nd IMHO.

 

[Kleck]

I think people are focusing on production per touch...in his case I believe his value comes in touches. He seems a lock to be top five in touches for RN this year barring injury. He has played off the injury label for me, so a possible 300 rush 40/50 catch session is money in the bank. With so many sharing teams at Rb...

I agree. One of few RBs that I see getting 350+ touches. In 2009 & 2010 he had 375 & 376 touches so it's really not anything out of the ordinary here.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

Solid third round pick, not enough value in the 2nd IMHO.

Depends on league scoring, size and roster reqs. In a RB heavy league with 12-16 teams, he could be worthy of a 2nd.

 

[LHUCKS]

Solid third round pick, not enough value in the 2nd IMHO.

Depends on league scoring, size and roster reqs. In a RB heavy league with 12-16 teams, he could be worthy of a 2nd.

I always reference the standard 12 team, FBG scoring league.

 

[Manster]

I sure hope Sam Bradford can move this offense down the field more this year and give SJax more TD opps. If he can add a couple more TDs to his last three year average he will put up RB1 numbers.

When he was there @ 3.06 in a 12 teamer ppr last night, I had to pull the trigger. Wasnt really targeting him, but just couldnt pass him up. Seems like he's definately fallen out of favor with the FF crowd. Thing is, he's still gonna get a ton of touches. Bradford has looked sharp, and with Fisher there, my gut tells me SJax could very well be solid value in '12.