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[mistersmith]

Injury update on Sjax, according to Jeff Gordon, St Louis Dispatch Reporter:

Scott: Hey Jeff,

Another tough day at the "ED". The defense fell apart after the 1st quarter. What happened? Any word on Steven Jackson? It seems obvious the lambs can't win without him. How long before Linehan is gone???

Jeff Gordon: Jackson had back spasms, a problem that should not carry over. The bye will also help his groin muscle get closer to 100 percent.

 

[Bad_Mo]

I can live comfortably with back spasms!

 

[North]

THEY NEED TO FIRE LINEHAN.

No excuse for the offense to totally shut down against Cleveland after 14 in the 1st quarter. I honestly don't think they are fully prepared each week, that falls on the coach!

 

[SCT]

...to see him go for 200. He's got a lot of yards to reach his goal and this team certainly isn't as bad as it's record indicates.19-140 5-62 1

Did he have 200 combined in the 3 games before injury? Just kidding, but my point remains....the biggest thing that has been lost with his injury is the memory of how people felt about him WHILE HEALTHY in the first 3 weeks. "Bust" was being used a LOT because his production was very disappointing. I know he had 135 in week 3, but I'm just sayin'. Since he's been out, the OL has gotten worse, his QB has been exposed as a non-threat (due to injury mostly), and his team has gone down the crapper. I see the great expectations that we see now as a sign of desperation by owners.

 

[EdwardCat]

...to see him go for 200. He's got a lot of yards to reach his goal and this team certainly isn't as bad as it's record indicates.19-140 5-62 1

Did he have 200 combined in the 3 games before injury? Just kidding, but my point remains....the biggest thing that has been lost with his injury is the memory of how people felt about him WHILE HEALTHY in the first 3 weeks. "Bust" was being used a LOT because his production was very disappointing. I know he had 135 in week 3, but I'm just sayin'. Since he's been out, the OL has gotten worse, his QB has been exposed as a non-threat (due to injury mostly), and his team has gone down the crapper. I see the great expectations that we see now as a sign of desperation by owners.

Jackson is still the stud RB he was last year. He's in the same class as Gore...####ed over by his team's offensive ineptitude. Unless his team continues to downward spiral, one can safely assume he will recover. A stud player at Jackson's player doesn't just stop becoming a stud. Randy Moss makes a clear case for that. Tomlinson's struggles behind a confused offensive line earlier in the season is another case.

 

[MCguidance]

How can anyone say that he would not be a very good back this year if he was healthy? Hes hurt so he sucks and is killing me, but for a quarter he was gold, ha.

 

[Keith Lewis]

This isn't make or break for the Rams' season, the season's already broke at 0-7. No reason to expose Jackson to long term risk; I believe he'll split carries at best and put up modest numbers. Maybe 12-60, 4-20?

This is precisely (among other things) why Linehan should be fired. He is risking his franchise back for one week game vs. the Browns when there is a bye next week.

Are you a doctor?God forbid Linehan trying to put his best players on the field.

One dish of crow, served hot and ready:(rotoworld)Steven Jackson says his back began spasming Sunday because he was overcompensating for his previously torn groin.

Jackson was playing very well before getting hurt. "It's not an injury that keeps you out for weeks," he said. Jackson gets a Week 9 bye to nurse the injury, then should have a strong second half if he can stay healthy.

 

[MCguidance]

rotoworld

Richie Incognito-C-Rams Oct. 29 - 10:27 am et

According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, the knee injury that Richie Incognito suffered Sunday could be season-ending.

Coach Scott Linehan said afterward that there could be patellar damage in the knee. He was replaced by Nick Leckey, putting the Rams' offensive line in even worse shape.

Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

 

[Keith Lewis]

rotoworld

Richie Incognito-C-Rams Oct. 29 - 10:27 am et

According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, the knee injury that Richie Incognito suffered Sunday could be season-ending.

Coach Scott Linehan said afterward that there could be patellar damage in the knee. He was replaced by Nick Leckey, putting the Rams' offensive line in even worse shape.

Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

Wasn't he married to Jessica Simpson?

 

[FFChick32]

rotoworldRichie Incognito-C-Rams Oct. 29 - 10:27 am et According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, the knee injury that Richie Incognito suffered Sunday could be season-ending.Coach Scott Linehan said afterward that there could be patellar damage in the knee. He was replaced by Nick Leckey, putting the Rams' offensive line in even worse shape.Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

Man - these guys can't catch a break!! Can't they go out and get anybody or isn't it worth it at this point??

 

[MCguidance]

Steven Jackson-RB-Rams Oct. 29 - 6:25 pm et

Steven Jackson has a bulging disk in his back.

That doesn't sound good, but coach Scott Linehan said the injury is treatable and is optimistic Jackson will return after the team's Week 9 bye. Jackson lost another offensive lineman for the year (Richie Incognito) this week, which won't help matters.

Source: ESPN.com

Richie Incognito-C-Rams Oct. 29 - 6:20 pm et

Rams G Richie Incognito will likely miss the rest of the season with a right kneecap injury.

Incognito makes his share of errors, but his nasty edge was much-needed for St. Louis' run blocking. With their starters gone for the year, the St. Louis offensive line is in shambles. Bad news for Steven Jackson and Marc Bulger.

Source: ESPN.com

Per Rotoword (I posted this in the injury thread, but wanted to post it here so people had a better chance of seeing it)

 

[Pigskins]

Steven Jackson-RB-Rams Oct. 29 - 6:25 pm et Steven Jackson has a bulging disk in his back.That doesn't sound good, but coach Scott Linehan said the injury is treatable and is optimistic Jackson will return after the team's Week 9 bye. Jackson lost another offensive lineman for the year (Richie Incognito) this week, which won't help matters.Source: ESPN.com Richie Incognito-C-Rams Oct. 29 - 6:20 pm et Rams G Richie Incognito will likely miss the rest of the season with a right kneecap injury.Incognito makes his share of errors, but his nasty edge was much-needed for St. Louis' run blocking. With their starters gone for the year, the St. Louis offensive line is in shambles. Bad news for Steven Jackson and Marc Bulger.Source: ESPN.com Per Rotoword (I posted this in the injury thread, but wanted to post it here so people had a better chance of seeing it)

Coach Linehan is suddenly a back specialist! What else is in his bag o tricks?

 

[Tanner9919]

How can anyone say that he would not be a very good back this year if he was healthy? Hes hurt so he sucks and is killing me, but for a quarter he was gold, ha.

maybe because everyone knew his o-line was going to stink up the joint?!

 

[PatrickT]

Any further news/developments on Jackson, or is this a situation where there will be nothing until after the bye?

Any homers have a "gut" feeling on Jackson's future this year?

 

[george]

 

[mistersmith]

According to Stephanie Bell on ESPN, the term "bulging disc" sounds worse than it really is:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?...=bell_stephania

Steven Jackson, Rams: The recent news coming from the Rams' own website that Jackson has a bulging disc in his back has no doubt caused alarm amongst Jackson owners. Not to panic, at least not yet. As we mentioned on Monday, Jackson experienced spasms in his back on Sunday, which is why he left the game early and why the team was looking more closely at his back this week. But there are a few things you should know about discs.

1. Many people have bulging discs and do not have pain. In fact, multiple studies have taken asymptomatic individuals, subjected them to a variety of imaging tests, and have shown that a majority of these people have disc bulges or protrusions or some other abnormality. Yet, somehow, these people do not have pain.

2. Many people experience back pain that is consistent in behavior with disc pain, yet have no positive findings of any kind on imaging.

3. People who have some evidence of disc damage on imaging and also have pain, may ultimately recover completely from the pain, yet repeat imaging can show the exact same damage to be present in the disc.

The takeaway message? It is virtually impossible to definitively correlate the presence of a disc bulge with any particular symptoms. It is worth noting that in the case of a frank herniation with nerve impingement ("pinched nerve"), where the disc has extensive damage and is visibly encroaching on a nerve, the associated symptoms may be more clearly linked to the disc injury. But a bulge, which is a minor deformity of a disc, is often benign.

So blah, blah, blah you say, how does this relate to Steven Jackson? Here's how. It is possible that Jackson has had a disc bulge for some time. It is possible that the back spasms that Jackson experienced could be in response to an aggravated disc. In fact, it's possible that some of those elements could have been present before the groin injury. But the symptoms could also occur for any other number of reasons, including Jackson's own theory of compensating for his groin injury. The bottom line is that Jackson has to feel well enough to perform; the presence or absence of a disc bulge will not, in isolation, dictate his activity. As outlined on the Rams' website, Jackson will take medication and rest this week. Then, just as with any other soft tissue injury, Jackson will gradually work his way back by increasing what he is doing in practice. I would still expect him at this point to be on target for Week 10, barring a setback (which is always a possibility, but not a probability). The primary issue for Jackson at this point is to protect the back symptoms from getting worse, while ensuring that the groin muscle strength and endurance continues to improve. Patience Jackson owners, patience. Don't throw in the towel yet.

 

[cartel]

According to Stephanie Bell on ESPN, the term "bulging disc" sounds worse than it really is:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?...=bell_stephania

Steven Jackson, Rams: The recent news coming from the Rams' own website that Jackson has a bulging disc in his back has no doubt caused alarm amongst Jackson owners. Not to panic, at least not yet. As we mentioned on Monday, Jackson experienced spasms in his back on Sunday, which is why he left the game early and why the team was looking more closely at his back this week. But there are a few things you should know about discs.

1. Many people have bulging discs and do not have pain. In fact, multiple studies have taken asymptomatic individuals, subjected them to a variety of imaging tests, and have shown that a majority of these people have disc bulges or protrusions or some other abnormality. Yet, somehow, these people do not have pain.

2. Many people experience back pain that is consistent in behavior with disc pain, yet have no positive findings of any kind on imaging.

3. People who have some evidence of disc damage on imaging and also have pain, may ultimately recover completely from the pain, yet repeat imaging can show the exact same damage to be present in the disc.

The takeaway message? It is virtually impossible to definitively correlate the presence of a disc bulge with any particular symptoms. It is worth noting that in the case of a frank herniation with nerve impingement ("pinched nerve"), where the disc has extensive damage and is visibly encroaching on a nerve, the associated symptoms may be more clearly linked to the disc injury. But a bulge, which is a minor deformity of a disc, is often benign.

So blah, blah, blah you say, how does this relate to Steven Jackson? Here's how. It is possible that Jackson has had a disc bulge for some time. It is possible that the back spasms that Jackson experienced could be in response to an aggravated disc. In fact, it's possible that some of those elements could have been present before the groin injury. But the symptoms could also occur for any other number of reasons, including Jackson's own theory of compensating for his groin injury. The bottom line is that Jackson has to feel well enough to perform; the presence or absence of a disc bulge will not, in isolation, dictate his activity. As outlined on the Rams' website, Jackson will take medication and rest this week. Then, just as with any other soft tissue injury, Jackson will gradually work his way back by increasing what he is doing in practice. I would still expect him at this point to be on target for Week 10, barring a setback (which is always a possibility, but not a probability). The primary issue for Jackson at this point is to protect the back symptoms from getting worse, while ensuring that the groin muscle strength and endurance continues to improve. Patience Jackson owners, patience. Don't throw in the towel yet.

At least from first glance this does not sound like nerve impingement. Loads of people having herniated disks and have no pain.ETA I would like to know how many NFL players have disk disease my guess would be over 50%

 

[Team Smokin']

Since Jackson is on bye this week I'm sure the updates will be minimal yet I would like to keep the topic open for on-going discussions. A week from today everyone and their brother will want to know what the skinny is.

 

[AcerFC]

Just traded for him so Im hoping the article is on point

 

[JHicks22]

I need SJax for this playoff run!

 

[Enforcer]

This isn't make or break for the Rams' season, the season's already broke at 0-7. No reason to expose Jackson to long term risk; I believe he'll split carries at best and put up modest numbers. Maybe 12-60, 4-20?

Make or break? Geesh. Does it get any more broken?

 

[mdog1967]

This isn't make or break for the Rams' season, the season's already broke at 0-7. No reason to expose Jackson to long term risk; I believe he'll split carries at best and put up modest numbers. Maybe 12-60, 4-20?

Make or break? Geesh. Does it get any more broken?

Double because both good posts. I am a little more optomistic as a Jackson owner, but would rather Jackson not be exposed to any long term damage, This is a completely lost season for the Rams even in the NFC west. I need him, but his health is a priority over FFBL.