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All it takes is his LT to miss a block and a DE to blindside him in the knees, season over.
What is this supposed to mean ?This can be said of any QB in the NFL.Go back to sleep, hater.
I can recognize greatness and expect a little humility at the same time.And just how have Patriots fans "suffered" in the last decade?
I can't stand the Pats. Beat my Rams in the SB and I don't get the hate either. Actually discussing a blindside hit to the knee. Another poster "hoping" that one of those hits....That's horrible. What the hell is wrong with you people. If they want to run it up, let them. Don't want it to happen, don't let it happen. The O gets paid to score points. The D gets paid to not let people score points. They are proving to the world that they are the best in the world at doing this. If D's can't stop then they need to stop complaining and try harder....
It's not hating, I don't think. I personally feel that there is nothing unsportsmanlike about the Pats playing the way they are playing; I just don't know if it's the smartest way to play. Look at it this way:1) The Pats clearly have a great team, with a chance to do something special (win a Superbowl), something very special (win their 4th superbowl in 1 decade), and something completely unheard of (go 19-0).2) The way the Pats have played, with the exception of the Indy game, they could have put in subs for most (if not all) of the 4th quarter.3) Tom Brady is the one player that the Pats cannot afford to lose; if they lose Maroney, Watson, an O-lineman, anyone from their defense, Welker, Stallworth, EVEN MOSS-they can still continue to play well. But if they lose Brady, the drop-off is too great, and the hopes of a perfect season and probable Super Bowl win are lost. 4) The Pats are passing the ball 53% of the time, even when they are up. This leaves Brady vulnerable to a hit that could knock him out of the game.Now, taking all of those facts into account, wouldn't the smart thing be to reduce the risk to Brady? So, when the game is clearly in the bag, do one of two things: 1-run the ball ALOT to limit some of the risk to Brady (also eat up play clock, thereby further limiting the amount of time Brady has to play)-most NFL teams do this anyway when they are up. 2-Take Brady out. The limited number of active players on game day prevents NFL teams from having depth at every position, but (as stated before), the Pats can't lose Brady, so if you're not going to take everyone out, you could at least take him out.So that being said, let me repeat, I feel that Brady has every right to go after any records he thinks he can reach, I feel that B.B. (even though I can't stand him) has every right to want to set scoring records, point differential records, have a perfect season, etc, etc. I, personally, just don't think that it's necessarily the smartest decision. They could play Brady less and still go 19-0, but they might not set all of the team scoring and personal scoring records they have a shot at. Which is most important: the team records, or the personal records? But, hey, maybe it will work for him, Brady won't get hurt, they will set all kinds of records, have a perfect season, win the SB, and go down as the greatest team ever.What is this supposed to mean ?This can be said of any QB in the NFL.Go back to sleep, hater.
And then the Beantowners wonder why there is such little respect for there general "fanhood"FWIW, I am not wishing anyone to get hurt. But that doesnt mean it would upset me - especially in light of Karma and how to play a game while respecting your opponent. Lose that respect for other, lose the right for respect of your albeit great accomplishments.
Actually, for many of us it has nothing to do with the cheating and everything to do with disrespecting opposing players, coaches and the game.
I'm getting tired of this Pats talk. Who the #### cares.
Yeah it has been rough for you. Super Bowl in 1985, SB in 1997 and then of course the Dynasty now. Sucks to be you guys.
This is why there are soooo many haters out there. It's not necessarily the Pats (except Bellichick and his uber arrogance), but the delusional Pats fans who think they have been suffering for soooo long.Get a grip you silly Pats fans, you have been the premier team for the past decade.
When you can't stop the Patriots to save your life, you really don't have the right to complain about anything... Heath Evans is in, Kyle Ekel is in, Jabar Gaffney is in, in the 4th quarter, Matt Cassell is in... what do you want them to do?Now the situation with 4th downs. Do you want them to kick for 3 points, or do you want them to take a chance to run off more clock and get a 4th down conversion? There's no right answer to that debate as I've seen already.
Which is exactly why to this point in the season, New England has had pretty good karma. They fully respect every one of their opponents. They dont take anyone lightly. Scoring alot of points does not translate into a disrespect of opponents. Although clearly, that is the #1 argument they face. Id be willing to bet that 98% of the NFL players they face dont see it as a lack of respect either.
Some of us here are a little older than 15 so we actually remember all those beatings the "Patsies" took in the 70's, 80's and 90's.Up until 2001 they were a bunch of lovable losers that had a few good seasons thrown in.
Full respect for these thoughts. Well said. I'll never bash Jets fans again. For atleast a few weeks. 
that is a load of no one is being disrespected - stop with the platitudes - the the opposing players and coaches DON'T feel that way, so I am not sure where you are getting it from.
Yes. I'm sure that history is quite unique.
I dont think too many athletes are overly concerned with how opposing fans view them. Certainly not a newsflash, but its common and understandable considering how passionate fans can get.
I think that is an awesome statement by you. You actually get it.The suffering goes back quite a while. But here's an interesting note. In 1989, Dallas was 1-15. In '90, New England was 1-15. And in '91, it was Indy...1-15. Atleast we know Indy fans, that in a few years, our teams will probably suck together again.
thanks, yk. Suffering isnt really suffering when youre amongst friends.I think that is an awesome statement by you. You actually get it.The suffering goes back quite a while. But here's an interesting note. In 1989, Dallas was 1-15. In '90, New England was 1-15. And in '91, it was Indy...1-15. Atleast we know Indy fans, that in a few years, our teams will probably suck together again.
Oh believe me, the teams they are blowing out(going for it on 4th down, twice).....are going to remember it......and they will remember it for a very long time.Someone said something about Karma earlier........if pretty boy Brady gets hurt in one of these blowouts.........you can then say Karma is a #####.
If that were the case, you would have a point. The Skin's game is what did it for me. In the context of how beli has conducted himself over the years, that was enough for me.that is a load of
no one is being disrespected - stop with the platitudes - the the opposing players and coaches DON'T feel that way, so I am not sure where you are getting it from.
"we're trying to get better, we're trying to improve..the only way to improve is to play...I've only played 10 games with moss or welker & stallworth....we need the plays to gel better...who cares if you up by 28 what if its in 2 weeks and its 4th down in a tie game in the 4th...
Welcome to Yankeeville.
For. Real.please stop with these threads. This quote couldn't have gone in one of the other ones?wadegarrett said:
I dont get the smugness . Who would you consider smug on the Patriots?
Part 1, #3- 3) "Tom Brady is the one player that the Pats cannot afford to lose..."-Is he? In the 4th game of the 1972 season Bob Griese broke in his right leg and he also dislocated his right ankle. Griese was replaced by 38-year old Earl Morrall, who quarterbacked every game of that perfect regular season thereafter (Griese would return in the post-season).Bayhawks said:It's not hating, I don't think. I personally feel that there is nothing unsportsmanlike about the Pats playing the way they are playing; I just don't know if it's the smartest way to play. Look at it this way:1) The Pats clearly have a great team, with a chance to do something special (win a Superbowl), something very special (win their 4th superbowl in 1 decade), and something completely unheard of (go 19-0).2) The way the Pats have played, with the exception of the Indy game, they could have put in subs for most (if not all) of the 4th quarter.3) Tom Brady is the one player that the Pats cannot afford to lose; if they lose Maroney, Watson, an O-lineman, anyone from their defense, Welker, Stallworth, EVEN MOSS-they can still continue to play well. But if they lose Brady, the drop-off is too great, and the hopes of a perfect season and probable Super Bowl win are lost. 4) The Pats are passing the ball 53% of the time, even when they are up. This leaves Brady vulnerable to a hit that could knock him out of the game.Now, taking all of those facts into account, wouldn't the smart thing be to reduce the risk to Brady? So, when the game is clearly in the bag, do one of two things: 1-run the ball ALOT to limit some of the risk to Brady (also eat up play clock, thereby further limiting the amount of time Brady has to play)-most NFL teams do this anyway when they are up. 2-Take Brady out. The limited number of active players on game day prevents NFL teams from having depth at every position, but (as stated before), the Pats can't lose Brady, so if you're not going to take everyone out, you could at least take him out.So that being said, let me repeat, I feel that Brady has every right to go after any records he thinks he can reach, I feel that B.B. (even though I can't stand him) has every right to want to set scoring records, point differential records, have a perfect season, etc, etc. I, personally, just don't think that it's necessarily the smartest decision. They could play Brady less and still go 19-0, but they might not set all of the team scoring and personal scoring records they have a shot at. Which is most important: the team records, or the personal records? But, hey, maybe it will work for him, Brady won't get hurt, they will set all kinds of records, have a perfect season, win the SB, and go down as the greatest team ever.Ron_Mexico said:What is this supposed to mean ?This can be said of any QB in the NFL.Go back to sleep, hater.Burning Sensation said:
It is a little demented... but let's be honest... football players aren't always making the best tackle. The best tackles should take on more of a wrestling move, instead of what we see is hit them as hard as you can. Boxers can win two ways... try to tally up more points from the 3 judges, or just knock the guy out... that is part of what football has become, IMHO. However, if a hard hit knocks a guy out so be it, and by george, knocking Brady out is what most teams should be trying to do, but can't. If you don't like it, than petition the league to make a judgement call on tackling being too hard to constitute a 15 yd penalty. But going for knees is weak sauce.TheFanatic said:
Belichiks' whole deameanor. Some snide comments at times from Brady, though I don't have a huge issue with Brady himself. Perhaps it really comes down to the coach and his personality and how that spreads throughout the team. It is an arrogance mixed with rudness and comtempt of others and their opponenent along with a disrespectful approach in general (be it a press conference or the 4th quarter of a blowout)It has filtered to many fans as well, but I have to run for now...
