Entering my 3rd year in this league. I've come in 4th and 9th. Looking for general help. Scoring is 5 X 5. 26 man roster. How do I evaluate players to draft? In season waiver moves? When do I take a closer? Just looking for strategy tidbits to move me out of the second division. Thanks.
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Well, lots of different strategies for lots of different drafts.
Assuming it's a straight serpentine draft...there is no set time to take a closer. The easiest strategy is to take hitters early and often.
What I like to do is zig when everyone else is zagging. Don't be on the end of a run at a position. Either be at the beginning, or not part of it at all. For instance, closers. LEt's say around the 3rd round closers start going. Then it seems like they are flying off the shelf and it doesn't even look like you are going to get a guy guaranteed a job, well, just wait till later to get a closer. There will be guys still around. Or let's say it's the 4th round and now no one has a closer. You've locked up 3 stud hitters, and there are no stud SP's available, well, hell maybe there you START the closer run by grabbing the #1 guy. Then you can wait till much later in the draft to get another one or two, because you have 40 saves in the bank.
Each draft really takes a life of it's own. That's the beauty of a baseball draft. No two are even close to alike. Assess your team at all levels along the way. Don't reach.
As far as in season moves, again, it all depends on your team relative to your league. If you're great in steals, runs and average but lacking in hr's, you may want to swap out a light hitting julio lugo and plop in a thumper like bobby crosby for awhile. I mean there is no magic wand for this kind of stuff. You need to realistically assess your team against your league each week of the year to see where to make the right moves.
Assuming it's a straight serpentine draft...there is no set time to take a closer. The easiest strategy is to take hitters early and often.
What I like to do is zig when everyone else is zagging. Don't be on the end of a run at a position. Either be at the beginning, or not part of it at all. For instance, closers. LEt's say around the 3rd round closers start going. Then it seems like they are flying off the shelf and it doesn't even look like you are going to get a guy guaranteed a job, well, just wait till later to get a closer. There will be guys still around. Or let's say it's the 4th round and now no one has a closer. You've locked up 3 stud hitters, and there are no stud SP's available, well, hell maybe there you START the closer run by grabbing the #1 guy. Then you can wait till much later in the draft to get another one or two, because you have 40 saves in the bank.
Each draft really takes a life of it's own. That's the beauty of a baseball draft. No two are even close to alike. Assess your team at all levels along the way. Don't reach.
As far as in season moves, again, it all depends on your team relative to your league. If you're great in steals, runs and average but lacking in hr's, you may want to swap out a light hitting julio lugo and plop in a thumper like bobby crosby for awhile. I mean there is no magic wand for this kind of stuff. You need to realistically assess your team against your league each week of the year to see where to make the right moves.
Eephus
Footballguy
I pretty much agree w/ guru_007 except for the part about starting a closer run. Every draft is different and I suppose there could be one where closers get drafted late, but I've never been involved in one like that. The #1 closer is rarely (read never) a value pick. If all closers are still on the board after their ADP, it's almost a certainty that other positions are getting picked over. The delta between those players and the next positional tier is probably bigger than the gap from the #1 to the #5 or #6 closer. Let's assume Papelbon is ranked #1. He'll provide SV, contribute in K, WHIP and ERA and is low risk as closers go. But he's not head and shoulders above the other top guys. Every year, there's a few closers who come out of nowhere to provide cheap saves. That's a lot rarer at offensive positions.The only possible exception would be if you're on the turn. But even then, I think you'd be better off bypassing the top tier closers and piecing together a bullpen from what's left after the run.guru_007 said:
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
Good advice on closers guys, but let me add to ACK88's questions (I too am in an AL only league for those of you who havent read my endless Crawford posts...haha)
Where do you stand on Starting pitchers in AL only? Do you agree with the the LIMA plan of spending big bucks on hitters and scrapping together cheap pitching? It seems like the guy with the most starting pitching wins my league every year.
Where do you stand on Starting pitchers in AL only? Do you agree with the the LIMA plan of spending big bucks on hitters and scrapping together cheap pitching? It seems like the guy with the most starting pitching wins my league every year.
Eephus
Footballguy
The guy with the most starting pitching always does well in the end but the problem is predicting who the top SPs will be going in to the draft. Injuries, underperformance and bad luck are all more likely to affect pitchers than hitters. I've never had the guts to go full LIMA. I've used some waiver wire SP and MR types who fit the LIMA profile but they've always been on the back end of my staffs. I honestly don't know if LIMA would tougher in an AL only league. On one hand everyone is picking from a smaller pitching pool. so those guys might be harder to find. But on the other hand, the supply of top SP and CL is tighter to start with.
Your Mother
Footballguy
There are 14 closers for 12 teams, which means they are going to be pretty hard to come by. I'd advise either getting two elite ones, or punting closers altogether. I think that's a situation where you don't want to get caught in the middle ground.
The scarce positions are going to be even moreso in an AL-only. Everything will be tight of course, but a guy like Jeter is going to be immensely valuable. Same for V. Martinez.
The scarce positions are going to be even moreso in an AL-only. Everything will be tight of course, but a guy like Jeter is going to be immensely valuable. Same for V. Martinez.
Thanks for the insight. The discussion on closers was very helpful. Without being too ridgid, I'm going to try and draft power hitters early on. Does anyone have a system similiar to VBD in football that helps to seperate closely ranked players, while accounting for position scarcity?
