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Stud RB Theory- This had to be the year........... (1 Viewer)

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Of all the years, this had to be the year to NOT follow the stud RB theory! I have never seen so much value at RB late in drafts as I saw this year. I'm normally a stud RB theory guy, but this year I think that strategy could have backed fired on some owners. Taking Manning in the late first, or going WR-WR at late first early second, taking Gates early third, or taking Palmer, Brees, Brady, late third early fourth are all great options. I think the best may be when you’re drafting in the first half of the first, and going RB-WR-WR.

In my opinion there are around 10-12 RB's that should probably be taken right out of the shoot, naturally depending on scoring options, PPR, 7 pt passing TD's, whatever. In no particular order: (LT, SJ, LJ, Gore, Parker, Henry, Addai, Westy, Alexander, Rudi, Bush if PPR, and maybe one more of differing opinions) After those guys, I don't see much difference in the next 20 or so. Are McGahee and Jacobs really going to be that much better than J. Jones and F. Taylor? Maybe they will, but for their price, I would rather have the later two as my RB2 or RB3, and take studs at other positions to round out my team. I think it is very likely that you can wait until the late fifth and early sixth to start picking up your RB2-RB3's. JJ, T. Bell, L. Jordan, F. Taylor, C. Taylor, Foster, L. White, and Dunn can all be had in the sixth or later in most leagues. I tried successfully to get three of those guys to go with my RB1.

The reason the strategy works so well is because the other owner are so caught up early in drafts trying to get RB's they lose sight of the fact that all the top WR's and QB's are being taken, and then it is too late. At that point they start scrambling to get the leftovers leaving you great value at RB late in drafts. While they are taking the mid level RB's ( Portis, Edge, Brown, Jacobs, Benson, Deuce, MJD) and reaching on other RB's ( Lynch, Norwood, Barber, De. Williams) you are taking the stud WR's and QB's or whatever.

Some example from my 8 redraft leagues of what you can come out with: (Harrison, TO, Braylon, K. Curtis with Bush, Jacobs, F. Taylor, C. Taylor, McNabb-PPR) ****(Holt, Evans, R. Brown with Maroney, T. Bell, F. Taylor, L. White, Romo and GATES - Omega League)*********(Wayne, TO, Evans with Bush, T. Bell, Foster, White, and McNabb.-PPR)********(S. Smith, Walker, Evans with Henry, T. Bell , F. Taylor and Big Ben -PPR)********** All of the above are 12 teamers from various drafting spots, with knowledgeable owners.

When I didn't use this strategy in a few of my leagues I ended up with guys like TJ, Evans as my WR1, followed by R. Brown, Cotchery as 2's and who knows what as WR3. I definitely didn't like the teams as well. I know everyone as different opinions on players and that WR's can be very inconsistent, etc. etc. etc. But I also no RB2 and RB3's can be a crapshoot as well. I just cannot remember in the last 5 years when we've had so much depth at the RB position as this year. This seems to be the best strategy to take advantage of it! Sadly my drafts are all done, but maybe a few of you can still try it.

 
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I agree. Just had my draft and realized this after.

12 team league, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR flex, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF

Had the #3 pick so I started off with LJ. Snagged CJ round two. Round 3 Benson. Round 4 went with Cadillac. This is where I made a big mistake I think. Still had receivers like Evans, Housh and Colston on the board at that point but felt I needed to go RB. Snagged Boldin in the 5th. Then grabbed Norwood in the 6th, Jamal Lewis in the 7th and LenDale White in the 9th. Looking back I would have been much better off either taking an Owens or Harrison in place of Benson, or an Evans/Housh in place of Cadillac. But I honestly didnt think I would have good options at RB fall to me as late as they did.

 
I didn't draft a 2nd RB until round 5 this year. Couldn't be happier about it. I'd rather snag a couple top 10 WR's and a top 5 QB than to waste top picks on some scrub RB. I took AGreen at 5.07, and backed him up with FTaylor and DFoster later on. For the record, those guys finished as the 13th, 20th, and 28th RB's in my PPR league last year, respectively.

 
I dunno. I went RB/WR/RB/WR/RB/RB and like my team better than any of the ones listed above: Addai, Jacobs, AD, TO, Roy. Got Kitna (no penalty for INT's) for the Roy hookup and Santonio Holmes as WR3 later (only play 2).

 
I agree with the theory if you have a top 3 pick.

If you have a bottom 3 pick and go WR-WR or Manning to start, you will have a tough year as your RBs will likely not be consistent, and your td production will drop off significantly in those positions.

Just look at how many dud games CJ put up last year. you wold lose those games likely.

 
Good info. I have my 12 team draft tomorrow and was thinking the same thing. Our league is 6pts all TD's - qb/2rb/3wr/k/d , so I have been contemplating what to do with picks 2 and 3

 
Of all the years, this had to be the year to NOT follow the stud RB theory! I have never seen so much value at RB late in drafts as I saw this year. I'm normally a stud RB theory guy, but this year I think that strategy could have backed fired on some owners. Taking Manning in the late first, or going WR-WR at late first early second, taking Gates early third, or taking Palmer, Brees, Brady, late third early fourth are all great options. I think the best may be when you’re drafting in the first half of the first, and going RB-WR-WR.

In my opinion there are around 10-12 RB's that should probably be taken right out of the shoot, naturally depending on scoring options, PPR, 7 pt passing TD's, whatever. In no particular order: (LT, SJ, LJ, Gore, Parker, Henry, Addai, Westy, Alexander, Rudi, Bush if PPR, and maybe one more of differing opinions) After those guys, I don't see much difference in the next 20 or so. Are McGahee and Jacobs really going to be that much better than J. Jones and F. Taylor? Maybe they will, but for their price, I would rather have the later two as my RB2 or RB3, and take studs at other positions to round out my team. I think it is very likely that you can wait until the late fifth and early sixth to start picking up your RB2-RB3's. JJ, T. Bell, L. Jordan, F. Taylor, C. Taylor, Foster, L. White, and Dunn can all be had in the sixth or later in most leagues. I tried successfully to get three of those guys to go with my RB1.

The reason the strategy works so well is because the other owner are so caught up early in drafts trying to get RB's they lose sight of the fact that all the top WR's are QB's are being taken, and then it is too late. At that point they start scrambling to get the leftovers leaving you great value at RB late in drafts. While they are taking the mid level RB's ( Portis, Edge, Brown, Jacobs, Benson, Deuce, MJD) and reaching on other RB's ( Lynch, Norwood, Barber, De. Williams) you are taking the stud WR's and QB's or whatever.

Some example from my 8 redraft leagues of what you can come out with: (Harrison, TO, Braylon, K. Curtis with Bush, Jacobs, F. Taylor, C. Taylor, McNabb-PPR) ****(Holt, Evans, R. Brown with Maroney, T. Bell, F. Taylor, L. White, Romo and GATES - Omega League)*********(Wayne, TO, Evans with Bush, T. Bell, Foster, White, and McNabb.-PPR)********(S. Smith, Walker, Evans with Henry, T. Bell , F. Taylor and Big Ben -PPR)********** All of the above are 12 teamers from various drafting spots, with knowledgeable owners.

When I didn't use this strategy in a few of my leagues I ended up with guys like TJ, Evans as my WR1, followed by R. Brown, Cotchery as 2's and who knows what as WR3. I definitely didn't like the teams as well. I know everyone as different opinions on players and that WR's can be very inconsistent, etc. etc. etc. But I also no RB2 and RB3's can be a crapshoot as well. I just cannot remember in the last 5 years when we've had so much depth at the RB position as this year. This seems to be the best strategy to take advantage of it! Sadly my drafts are all done, but maybe a few of you can still try it.
:goodposting: That's what I've done in 3 drafts. I'm loaded at WR, and just as good as everyone else at RB. In one league I drafted Henry, Caddy, Foster, D Williams, L White, S Smith, Roy, Javon, Hackett.

 
Of all the years, this had to be the year to NOT follow the stud RB theory! I have never seen so much value at RB late in drafts as I saw this year. I'm normally a stud RB theory guy, but this year I think that strategy could have backed fired on some owners. Taking Manning in the late first, or going WR-WR at late first early second, taking Gates early third, or taking Palmer, Brees, Brady, late third early fourth are all great options. I think the best may be when you’re drafting in the first half of the first, and going RB-WR-WR.

In my opinion there are around 10-12 RB's that should probably be taken right out of the shoot, naturally depending on scoring options, PPR, 7 pt passing TD's, whatever. In no particular order: (LT, SJ, LJ, Gore, Parker, Henry, Addai, Westy, Alexander, Rudi, Bush if PPR, and maybe one more of differing opinions) After those guys, I don't see much difference in the next 20 or so. Are McGahee and Jacobs really going to be that much better than J. Jones and F. Taylor? Maybe they will, but for their price, I would rather have the later two as my RB2 or RB3, and take studs at other positions to round out my team. I think it is very likely that you can wait until the late fifth and early sixth to start picking up your RB2-RB3's. JJ, T. Bell, L. Jordan, F. Taylor, C. Taylor, Foster, L. White, and Dunn can all be had in the sixth or later in most leagues. I tried successfully to get three of those guys to go with my RB1.

The reason the strategy works so well is because the other owner are so caught up early in drafts trying to get RB's they lose sight of the fact that all the top WR's are QB's are being taken, and then it is too late. At that point they start scrambling to get the leftovers leaving you great value at RB late in drafts. While they are taking the mid level RB's ( Portis, Edge, Brown, Jacobs, Benson, Deuce, MJD) and reaching on other RB's ( Lynch, Norwood, Barber, De. Williams) you are taking the stud WR's and QB's or whatever.

Some example from my 8 redraft leagues of what you can come out with: (Harrison, TO, Braylon, K. Curtis with Bush, Jacobs, F. Taylor, C. Taylor, McNabb-PPR) ****(Holt, Evans, R. Brown with Maroney, T. Bell, F. Taylor, L. White, Romo and GATES - Omega League)*********(Wayne, TO, Evans with Bush, T. Bell, Foster, White, and McNabb.-PPR)********(S. Smith, Walker, Evans with Henry, T. Bell , F. Taylor and Big Ben -PPR)********** All of the above are 12 teamers from various drafting spots, with knowledgeable owners.

When I didn't use this strategy in a few of my leagues I ended up with guys like TJ, Evans as my WR1, followed by R. Brown, Cotchery as 2's and who knows what as WR3. I definitely didn't like the teams as well. I know everyone as different opinions on players and that WR's can be very inconsistent, etc. etc. etc. But I also no RB2 and RB3's can be a crapshoot as well. I just cannot remember in the last 5 years when we've had so much depth at the RB position as this year. This seems to be the best strategy to take advantage of it! Sadly my drafts are all done, but maybe a few of you can still try it.
:goodposting: That's what I've done in 3 drafts. I'm loaded at WR, and just as good as everyone else at RB. In one league I drafted Henry, Caddy, Foster, D Williams, L White, S Smith, Roy, Javon, Hackett.
i love your receivers. ou are definitely NOT as good as everyone else at RB. people always think this and always get burned when their rb 2 puts up 6 tds for the year, or they are constantly trying to play the matchup and start the wrong guy, or te guy who doesn't score. If Henry goes down you are in trouble (unless ppr and start 3 wr...then you'll compete)

 
I just completed a 12 team redarft tonight from the #1 hole. Took LT2 int he 1st and had my sights set on taking 2 WR in the 2/3 turn. When that came around, only Harrison and CJ were taken, to which I took Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. This should have been a sign that the RB pool was going to be ridiculously light come the 4/5 turn. In hindsight, maybe I should have taken a RB like Jacobs or Benson in the 2/3...especially if I had known that TJ House of J Walker of AJ would be waiting for me at the 4/5 turn. :goodposting:

Needless to say, the RB choices there were slim and I had to settle on JLew as my RB2 (same bye week as LT).

Nonetheless, in a league that starts 2 RBs, 3 WRs and no TE required, my roster looks like this:

Romo

Favre

LT2

JLew

L. White

Freddy T.

S. Smith

Wayne

TJ House

Balt. D

Etc. Etc. Etc.

I guess I'll take it. :lmao:

 
i personally think the best rosters this year (in 12 team leagues) look something like:

Top 8 QB

Top 10 RB

All of these guys as backups (RB2): A. Green, L. Jordan, D. Foster, L. White (one of these guys should emerge as a top 15 back; and in most leagues can be drafted somewhere between round 5-12)

Top 5 WR (S. Smith, C. Johson, etc)

Top 10 WR (Roy Williams, Boldin etc.)

Top 15 WR (Lee Evans, Andre Johnson, etc.)

Then getting Berrian, Bruce as backups

Top 10 TE (there's so many decent ones this year)

I am defintely endorsing the RB-WR-WR-WR-QB model this year; guys like Roy Williams and Lee Evans seem so much more like sure things than Cedric Benson and Brandon Jacobs; i see little difference between those Rbs and the guys being taken in rounds 5-12 as well... and i too normally endorse RB-RB (hell, last year i went RB-RB-WR-RB-TE-RB-QB; and it didn't pay off! in fact - i ended up with a bunch of good running backs and didn't know who to play from week to week, meanwhile the rest of my team was garbage because i believed 'there's value at WR in the late round' which wasn't really true.)

 
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I just got back from a 12 team Redraft PPR / 6 pt for passing TDs league. I drew the #2 pick.

I figure with Steven Jackson, why not go with two stud WR's?

I believe 3 teams took 3 RBs in the first 3 rounds so I was able to snag Steve Smith and Marvin Harrison when 2/3 turn came around.

I came out looking:

1 QB: Tony Romo, Brett Favre

2 RB: Steven Jackson, Jerious Norwood, Julius Jones, Chris Brown, Selvin Young, Brian Leonard

2 WR: Steve Smith, Marvin Harrison, Santonio Holmes, Troy Willamson, Ernest Wilford, Derek Mason

1 TE: Kellen Winslow

1 DEF: Miami

1 K: Shayne Graham

 
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I also drafted #1 in a 12 team redraft league this year. We start 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 2W/R, 1TE. Ended up with a pretty decent team:

1.01 - LT2

2.24 - Steve Smith

3.25 - Harrison

4.48 - Caddy

5.49 - Brady

6.72 - Fred Taylor

7.72 - Lendale White

8.96 - Galloway

9.97 - Hasslebeck

After this I started drafting IDP's but was able to pick up Turner in the 13th and Drew Bennett in the 18th as well.

 
I also drafted #1 in a 12 team redraft league this year. We start 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 2W/R, 1TE. Ended up with a pretty decent team:

1.01 - LT2

2.24 - Steve Smith

3.25 - Harrison

4.48 - Caddy

5.49 - Brady

6.72 - Fred Taylor

7.72 - Lendale White

8.96 - Galloway

9.97 - Hasslebeck

After this I started drafting IDP's but was able to pick up Turner in the 13th and Drew Bennett in the 18th as well.
That ridiculous (ridiculously good)) lineup is why the LT and SJAX owners should put asterisks by any championships they win this year assuming a non-PPR league :boxing: . By the time they've made their third pick, they should have 3 top players on their team. Conversely, the poor slob at 12 is there sweating, praying that someone nabs Manning so that his choice of RBs at the 12/13 turn is at least Bush/Maroney and not Bush/McGahee..Almost forgot: all that and Brady, too??!!

:rolleyes:

 
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I know the OP didn't have an early draft pick, looking at the rosters he posted,

but seeing these LT and SJax rosters makes me very happy I convinced my main

work league to switch to 3rd Round Flip this year.

 
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I don't know, I think alot of it depends on who is there at the time. I picked out of the #3 hole in a 10 team and took LJ first and was certain I was taking a WR next, when lo and behold Henry was still available. I took Gates in the third (maybe a reach) then got J. Walker in the 4th and T. Jones in the fifth. I'm thin as crap at WR and that scares the hell out of me. My team:

QB Romo, Alex Smith

RB LJ, Henry, T. Jones, S. Young, M. Turner

WR Walker, R. Moss, R. Brown, Marshall

TE Gates, Witten

K Rackers

D Patriots, Raiders

Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, K, D, no PPR.

 
I recently tested the Non RB stud theory, By mistake

My last draft was with my buddys who historicly were bad drafters...this league has been around for 7 years i have won 4 titles and never finished worst than 3rd. this year we also moved from 10 teams too 12. the scoring PPR and 6 Points per Passing td.

I had the # 5 draft spot, and felt prety confident before the draft so I had several beers. I know Bad Idea ,But these are my buddys. However as the draft started , And with LT, SJ,LJ , and Addai, Of the Board.. For Some reason I paniced. I never feal Uncomfortabe during a draft, But this time I did .I have Had a Bad felling about Gore and I started thinking..Manning, Manning, Manning....these guys always leave RB on the board to I took Him. forgeting for a moment that we just went to 12 teams... Bad Idea
2nd Round . By this time i Know i am in trouble..nothing left i feel comfortable with(well R Brown...NOT) as a #1..and every pick so far , besides mine has been a rb..So I go Steve smith....damm , did i just do that??
3rd Round .. I must Get a rb PERIOD.... best avalible A Perterson ... DAMM a rookie as My #1 Back
4th Round...Got to get another back....Wrs are Flying off the board...I am getting a Rb if it kills me...wait Gates is still there in the 4th ..I cant pass that up ..OK Gates
Long story short...I was very dissapointed after the draft...looking at my team Now Yeah my RBs Stink..but it's not that bad...I did get good Value later with RBs..

Never Underestamate your competition


P. Manning

S. Smith

D. Branch ( Not a fan..Only team i have him on)

S. Holmes( love him as a 4th wr, But a 3rd???)

A. Peterson

A. Green

L. Jordan( Flex)

A. Gates

D. Akers

Denver


Bench

J Norwood

W. Welker

R . Curry

M Lienart

 
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Of all the years, this had to be the year to NOT follow the stud RB theory! I have never seen so much value at RB late in drafts as I saw this year. I'm normally a stud RB theory guy, but this year I think that strategy could have backed fired on some owners. Taking Manning in the late first, or going WR-WR at late first early second, taking Gates early third, or taking Palmer, Brees, Brady, late third early fourth are all great options. I think the best may be when you’re drafting in the first half of the first, and going RB-WR-WR. In my opinion there are around 10-12 RB's that should probably be taken right out of the shoot, naturally depending on scoring options, PPR, 7 pt passing TD's, whatever. In no particular order: (LT, SJ, LJ, Gore, Parker, Henry, Addai, Westy, Alexander, Rudi, Bush if PPR, and maybe one more of differing opinions) After those guys, I don't see much difference in the next 20 or so. Are McGahee and Jacobs really going to be that much better than J. Jones and F. Taylor? Maybe they will, but for their price, I would rather have the later two as my RB2 or RB3, and take studs at other positions to round out my team. I think it is very likely that you can wait until the late fifth and early sixth to start picking up your RB2-RB3's. JJ, T. Bell, L. Jordan, F. Taylor, C. Taylor, Foster, L. White, and Dunn can all be had in the sixth or later in most leagues. I tried successfully to get three of those guys to go with my RB1. The reason the strategy works so well is because the other owner are so caught up early in drafts trying to get RB's they lose sight of the fact that all the top WR's are QB's are being taken, and then it is too late. At that point they start scrambling to get the leftovers leaving you great value at RB late in drafts. While they are taking the mid level RB's ( Portis, Edge, Brown, Jacobs, Benson, Deuce, MJD) and reaching on other RB's ( Lynch, Norwood, Barber, De. Williams) you are taking the stud WR's and QB's or whatever. Some example from my 8 redraft leagues of what you can come out with: (Harrison, TO, Braylon, K. Curtis with Bush, Jacobs, F. Taylor, C. Taylor, McNabb-PPR) ****(Holt, Evans, R. Brown with Maroney, T. Bell, F. Taylor, L. White, Romo and GATES - Omega League)*********(Wayne, TO, Evans with Bush, T. Bell, Foster, White, and McNabb.-PPR)********(S. Smith, Walker, Evans with Henry, T. Bell , F. Taylor and Big Ben -PPR)********** All of the above are 12 teamers from various drafting spots, with knowledgeable owners. When I didn't use this strategy in a few of my leagues I ended up with guys like TJ, Evans as my WR1, followed by R. Brown, Cotchery as 2's and who knows what as WR3. I definitely didn't like the teams as well. I know everyone as different opinions on players and that WR's can be very inconsistent, etc. etc. etc. But I also no RB2 and RB3's can be a crapshoot as well. I just cannot remember in the last 5 years when we've had so much depth at the RB position as this year. This seems to be the best strategy to take advantage of it! Sadly my drafts are all done, but maybe a few of you can still try it.
The earliest I drafted was fourth, and I took Bush in a PPR league at that slot. I then went Wayne, TO, Evans, and McNabb as my next four picks. I also think McNabb was a steal in the fifth round this year. Knee or not, they are still going to throw the ball around all over the place. I'm very suprised that anyone that drafted 1 or 2 would be able to get Harrison or S. Smith on the return, much less both of them. I think that was just an abberation, not something that usually happens in 12 team non idp redraft leagues.
 
I just completed a 12 team redarft tonight from the #1 hole. Took LT2 int he 1st and had my sights set on taking 2 WR in the 2/3 turn. When that came around, only Harrison and CJ were taken, to which I took Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. This should have been a sign that the RB pool was going to be ridiculously light come the 4/5 turn. In hindsight, maybe I should have taken a RB like Jacobs or Benson in the 2/3...especially if I had known that TJ House of J Walker of AJ would be waiting for me at the 4/5 turn. :mellow:
:goodposting: See, this is where all the RB-WR-WR talk proves that it's not worth it. Quality WRs like Javon, Housh, and Evans are falling to the late 4th round.Right now, having 2 Top 10 Wr's might look like money, but as the season progress and you cant find a consistent RB2 between your RB2-5, you'll realize why RB's are valuable.Someone earlier said they think that RoyW and Evans seem like surer things than Benson or Jacobs, and I agree, but are you going to find a RB2 who can actually produce consistently if you take WRs in Rounds 2 and 3? ABSOLUTELY NO I don't like to use myself as another example, but here's how my first few rounds went:1.4 - LJ2.7 - McGahee3.4 - Jacobs4.7 - Wayne5.4 - Roy WNow, there were 3-5 picks in the rounds 3-5 that allowed RW & RW to slip to me, so I will admit I was lucky to get 2 Top 10 WR's, but even when people were surprised I took Jacobs then in round 3, I KNEW that a Top 10 WR would still be there for me in round 4.From what I see, I haven't seen 1 team (LJ, SJax or not) who has a solid RB2 after they have drafted a WR in rounds 2&3. They seem to have depth, but if you're looking for Caddy, DeShaun, FTaylor, LenDale, or Norwood to be a solid RB2 you are very mistaken. I think LenDale and others can easily outproduce their ADP, but those expecting a consistent RB2 from a platoon like this is fooling themselves. Do Benson, Jacobs, Drew, or James have some risk involved? Yes, but their floor is probably the ceiling of the guys named as RB's in other posts. You, my friend, are :thumbup: if you think that 2 stud WR's are better than a SOLID RB2
 
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I never been big on the RB Stud theory, I usually like to be a contrarian so I get top studs at QB and WR. If I pick later in round 1, I usually like to get Manning. Last year it worked out well, as Parker was still there in round 2. This was kind of an odd year in that QB's are going a lot earlier than usual. I won last year, so I had the 12th pick and Manning was already gone. I went Rudy-Steve Smith and got still got Portis in the Fourth.

 
I agree as well. I drew the #3 spot this past Tuesday in a 10 teamer, standard scoring, with lineup requirements a bit different than normal with a start 1 QB, a total of 6 flex RB's/WR's/TE's (max of 3 RB's starting), K, and D. Took LJ, then zigged when everyone else zagged due to how things went:

1.03 - LJ

2.08 - Ocho Cinco

3.03 - Marvin Harrison

4.03 - Reggie Wayne (Holt was on the board here, and in retrospect I'm a little bummed I passed on him)

5.03 - Javon Walker

6.03 - Ahman Green

7.03 - Kitna

8.03 - Romo

Almost every team went RB/RB/RB out of the gate. None of the RB's left in the 2nd and 3rd (Ced Benson, Edge, Lynch, Brown) seemed too inspiring, so I decided to give the stud WR theory a try for once. We can carry players on their bye week and get the points from their previous game, so while week 6 would normally be a killer here, it didn't factor into the equation. I'm interested to see how this strategy works out. :thumbup:

 
Actually this is the year it worked.

1.05 Willie Parker

2.06 Travis Henry

3.05 Terrell Owens

4.06 Roy Williams

I let the draft come to me and it ended up back/back. I was willing to go Receiver or even QB, but when you think you might be able to get a TO in the 3rd round why pass up on a Travis Henry?

 
This is interesting. But, if every team is getting top players, doesn't it all balance out still? Its still going to be mid-late round picks that pan out. Its just that we all have big names on the roster.

 
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We start 2QB 1RB 2WR 2RB/WR 1TE 2D/ST in a 10 owner league with PPR

I had Gore as my keeper and picked 9th, I got Steve Smith then Chad Johnson, on the next turn I got Lee Evans and Andre Johnson, on the next turn I got Jamal Lewis and Leinart, on the next turn I got Roethlisburger and Caddy. I will obviously go with 1RB and 4WR unless Lewis or Caddy have a postive surprise. I have never used this method before, I ususally like to get 2 solid RB's, but I didn't like my RB choices and I love my WR core.

I also got Fred Taylor and Isaac Bruce later in the draft to round out my WR and RB's.

thank you DD for guiding me to take the WR plunge!

 
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We can carry players on their bye week and get the points from their previous game, so while week 6 would normally be a killer here, it didn't factor into the equation. I'm interested to see how this strategy works out. :confused:
That is the most messed up rule I've ever seen.Do you have to decide this before the last week they play before the bye or can you wait until after they have played?
 
you guys taking 3 WRs in your first 4 rounds do know that if something happens to your #1 one back or he doesnt pan out (I.E. 2006 SA, Portis, Lamant Jordan, caddy) your season is basically over

 
If Henry goes down or is on a bye, or has a bad day, you are in trouble (unless ppr and start 3 wr...then you'll compete)
:addedto:I agree that going RBX3 (RBX2 is not stud RB - RBX3 or RBX3 in the first 4 rounds is stud RB) was not a good strategy this year. Too much value presented by the top6/7/8 WRs (depending on how you see it), by Gates, and by the top-5 QBs.

As for what to do in round two this year b-ween RB or WR, it REALLY depended on your draft (and scoring - PPR leagues saw run-centric RBs in round two after the pass catching backs were scarfed up in the first, but some great WR values remained). If there was a heavy RB run through the first 20 picks, you could scoop up good value at WR in both round 2 and 3 and still end up with a decent RB2 in round 4.

If the top 3 or 4 WRs went in the first 18 picks, it was important to score one of those remaining top few WRs, but it was equally important to look for a strong RB2 in round 2/3.

And many drafters who took three RBs in the first 4 rounds after landing a stud WR in round 1 or 2 did very well.

 
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Aaah, I didn't do stud running back this year then cause I went RB/RB/WR/WR like I posted above. I still got Brandon Jacobs and Caddy to back up Parker/Henry so I think my backfield is pretty studly even if it isn't stud theory. :yes:

 
rick6668 said:
Beergogglz said:
We can carry players on their bye week and get the points from their previous game, so while week 6 would normally be a killer here, it didn't factor into the equation. I'm interested to see how this strategy works out. :)
That is the most messed up rule I've ever seen.Do you have to decide this before the last week they play before the bye
That's exactly how it works.
 
I drafted #1 and I'm pretty happy with my draft. We use a custom scoring system that rewards distance TD's. Stud QB's are hard to come by and the top 5 really seperate from the rest of the QB's. Same with DST's in our league: BAL/CHI were light years ahead of the rest of the pack last season. Plugging in our scoring system into DD really showed that taking a QB in the 2-3 round range isn't a bad idea. Same with taking BAL/CHI in the 4/5 round range.

My draft strategy was: If a top 5 QB was there at 2:12 I need to snag him. Since we used a double serpentine I knew my WR's wouldn't be as strong but felt it was necessary considering how long I was having to wait drafting from the #1 spot. I could either get a top 5 QB at 2:12 or a top 5 WR at 2:12. In our league the better value was QB (according to DD anyways). My second priority was getting A(D)P at the 3:12/4:1 turn for my RB2. I knew he wouldn't last until 5:1 so I would have to reach for him earlier, and everybody in my league knew I wanted him since I'm a huge Sooners fan.

There weren't many surprises but this is how my earlier rounds went:

1:1 LT

2:12 Brees

3:12 Q Boldin

4:1 A(D)P

5:1 Ravens DST (Couldn't believe nobody took them before this)

6:12 Reggie Brown

7:12 Chester Taylor

8:1 Julius Jones

So I still got some decent RB value in the mid rounds BUT my WR's are definately hurting. I loaded up on sleeper WR's in the later rounds...got VJax at 9:1 and Brandon Marshall at 11:12. I picked up Jacoby Jones on the WW two days ago...

 
ScoobyDoo said:
Aaah, I didn't do stud running back this year then cause I went RB/RB/WR/WR like I posted above. I still got Brandon Jacobs and Caddy to back up Parker/Henry so I think my backfield is pretty studly even if it isn't stud theory. :excited:
You went RB-RB-WR-WR-RB-RBGreat value with the RBs in 5/6. The WR pool fell off fast this year, IMO. After the first 15 or 16 were gone, I found a steep plummet to untested folks and folks with big ?. If I had 2 of the top-15 WRs on my roster, I found myself going elsewhere and wating a while on my WR3 and grabbing guys like Jennings or Glenn later on. Galloway and Ward were two of only a handful of receivers in the 15 to 35 range that felt like good mid-draft WR values. And, yes, you have a very studly backfield
 
In my league I was surprised what happened.

Owner A first 3 picks: LT, Jacobs & A.Peterson

Owner B first 3 picks: Jackson, James & CJ

My first 3 picks (from the 9 spot): Rudi, Henry, Roy

Are those teams THAT much better? I think those guys took some chances with LT and Jackson on their teams. Their risks allowed me to grab Roy Williams and Fitz in rounds 3 & 4, and later I grabbed DMac and Barber III as my RB3.

Time will tell.

First 3 rounds:

1 Green Street Hooligans LaDainian Tomlinson (RB SD)

2 Red Snappers Steven Jackson (RB STL)

3 Goodfellas Shaun Alexander (RB SEA)

4 Mustangs Larry Johnson (RB KC)

5 Camel Jockeys Frank Gore (RB SF)

6 Sandmen Brian Westbrook (RB PHI)

7 Wildcats Willie Parker (RB PIT)

8 Grubes Joseph Addai (RB IND)

9 Rounders Rudi Johnson (RB CIN)

10 DPGs Laurence Maroney (RB NE)

Round 2

11 DPGs Ronnie Brown (RB MIA)

12 Rounders Travis Henry (RB DEN)

13 Grubes Reggie Bush (RB NO)

14 Wildcats Maurice Jones-Drew (RB JAC)

15 Sandmen Peyton Manning (QB IND)

16 Camel Jockeys Clinton Portis (RB WAS)

17 Mustangs Marvin Harrison (WR IND)

18 Goodfellas Willis McGahee (RB BAL)

19 Red Snappers Edgerrin James (RB ARI)

20 Green Street Hooligans Brandon Jacobs (RB NYG)

Round 3

21 Green Street Hooligans Adrian Peterson (RB MIN)

22 Red Snappers Chad Johnson (WR CIN)

23 Goodfellas Terrell Owens (WR DAL)

24 Mustangs Cedric Benson (RB CHI)

25 Camel Jockeys Reggie Wayne (WR IND)

26 Sandmen Marshawn Lynch (RB BUF)

27 Wildcats Steve Smith (WR CAR)

28 Grubes Torry Holt (WR STL)

29 Rounders Nutz Roy Williams (WR DET)

30 DPGs Antonio Gates (TE SD)

 
ScoobyDoo said:
Aaah, I didn't do stud running back this year then cause I went RB/RB/WR/WR like I posted above. I still got Brandon Jacobs and Caddy to back up Parker/Henry so I think my backfield is pretty studly even if it isn't stud theory. :excited:
You went RB-RB-WR-WR-RB-RBGreat value with the RBs in 5/6. The WR pool fell off fast this year, IMO. After the first 15 or 16 were gone, I found a steep plummet to untested folks and folks with big ?. If I had 2 of the top-15 WRs on my roster, I found myself going elsewhere and wating a while on my WR3 and grabbing guys like Jennings or Glenn later on. Galloway and Ward were two of only a handful of receivers in the 15 to 35 range that felt like good mid-draft WR values. And, yes, you have a very studly backfield
I should say its a 10 team league. A 12-teamer and I wouldn't have gotten that much. I then had to turn around a draft two QB's in the following two rounds. Big Ben and Kitna fell to me there.
 
yinzer said:
I just completed a 12 team redarft tonight from the #1 hole. Took LT2 int he 1st and had my sights set on taking 2 WR in the 2/3 turn. When that came around, only Harrison and CJ were taken, to which I took Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. This should have been a sign that the RB pool was going to be ridiculously light come the 4/5 turn. In hindsight, maybe I should have taken a RB like Jacobs or Benson in the 2/3...especially if I had known that TJ House of J Walker of AJ would be waiting for me at the 4/5 turn. :shock:
:no: See, this is where all the RB-WR-WR talk proves that it's not worth it. Quality WRs like Javon, Housh, and Evans are falling to the late 4th round.Right now, having 2 Top 10 Wr's might look like money, but as the season progress and you cant find a consistent RB2 between your RB2-5, you'll realize why RB's are valuable.Someone earlier said they think that RoyW and Evans seem like surer things than Benson or Jacobs, and I agree, but are you going to find a RB2 who can actually produce consistently if you take WRs in Rounds 2 and 3? ABSOLUTELY NO I don't like to use myself as another example, but here's how my first few rounds went:1.4 - LJ2.7 - McGahee3.4 - Jacobs4.7 - Wayne5.4 - Roy WNow, there were 3-5 picks in the rounds 3-5 that allowed RW & RW to slip to me, so I will admit I was lucky to get 2 Top 10 WR's, but even when people were surprised I took Jacobs then in round 3, I KNEW that a Top 10 WR would still be there for me in round 4.From what I see, I haven't seen 1 team (LJ, SJax or not) who has a solid RB2 after they have drafted a WR in rounds 2&3. They seem to have depth, but if you're looking for Caddy, DeShaun, FTaylor, LenDale, or Norwood to be a solid RB2 you are very mistaken. I think LenDale and others can easily outproduce their ADP, but those expecting a consistent RB2 from a platoon like this is fooling themselves. Do Benson, Jacobs, Drew, or James have some risk involved? Yes, but their floor is probably the ceiling of the guys named as RB's in other posts. You, my friend, are :) if you think that 2 stud WR's are better than a SOLID RB2
I would much rather my team consist of:RB1: Steven JacksonRB2: Julius Jones or Jerious NorwoodWR1: Steve SmithWR2: Marvin HarrisonthenRB1: SJaxRB2: Ronnie Brown or Brandon JacobsWith some left over scraps at WRGranted I'm in a PPR league but I will take 2 of the top 5 receievers any day of the week.
 
I would much rather my team consist of:RB1: Steven JacksonRB2: Julius Jones or Jerious NorwoodWR1: Steve SmithWR2: Marvin HarrisonthenRB1: SJaxRB2: Ronnie Brown or Brandon Jacobs
??? w/o naming the "leftover scraps" at WR1/2, how can you make this assumption.And, in the above example, did you really see the WR 1 or WR2 (SS) available at either 2.11 or 2.09? If so, then the RB value was all eroded anyway and two WRs was clearly the way to go.
 
??? w/o naming the "leftover scraps" at WR1/2, how can you make this assumption.
Exactly, isn't all this discussion kinda meaningless without considering who is still available? I was in a draft the other night where 25 RBs had been taken by pick #38. I had LT2 but pretty much had to go RB/RB/WR/RB knowing that only the likes of T. Bell, D. Foster, and F. Taylor would be available in Round 5.
 
Max Power said:
you guys taking 3 WRs in your first 4 rounds do know that if something happens to your #1 one back or he doesnt pan out (I.E. 2006 SA, Portis, Lamant Jordan, caddy) your season is basically over
:kicksrock: I found that the hard wy last year. I drafted SA as my stud in round 1. Harrison, Holt, and then Driver in 2,3,&4 because the value was better than the RB's left on the board. I was thinking I could go with a 1 RB/3 WR set and be competitive. I might have been up until the time SA broke his foot. I struggled all year after that. Only the second time I've missed the playoffs ever. This year I had 4 RB's by round 6 or 7 in all my leagues. RB heavy is, always has been, and always will be the way to draft for me. I have never played in PPR leagues however because I don't believe a player with 1 rec for 50 yds should score the same amount of points as a player with 6 rec for 3 yards.
 
Marc Levin said:
And many drafters who took three RBs in the first 4 rounds after landing a stud WR in round 1 or 2 did very well.
My favorite (and hopefully best) draft this season went as follows (12 team; standard scoring; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, K, D):1.06 - Addai (RB)2.07 - S. Smith (WR)3.06 - Peterson (RB)4.07 - James (RB)5.06 - Bulger (QB)6.07 - Edwards (WR)7.06 - Santana Moss (WR)8.07 - Winslow (TE)9.06 - Norwood (RB)10.07 - Roethlisberger (QB)11.06 - Hackett (WR)12.07 - Green Bay (D)13.06 - Stover (K)Note this is a start two WR league, but I personally would much rather be strong at RB2 (Peterson, James) and make due with guys like Edwards, Moss & Hackett, than end up with a combo of say Roy Williams/Fitz as my WR2 and Ahman Green/LenDale White as my RB2.
 
Marc Levin said:
And many drafters who took three RBs in the first 4 rounds after landing a stud WR in round 1 or 2 did very well.
My favorite (and hopefully best) draft this season went as follows (12 team; standard scoring; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, K, D):1.06 - Addai (RB)

Zero Value

2.07 - S. Smith (WR)

Great Value

3.06 - Peterson (RB)

Zero to negative Value

4.07 - James (RB)

Huge Value

5.06 - Bulger (QB)

Zero to negative value

6.07 - Edwards (WR)

Zero Value

7.06 - Santana Moss (WR)

Negative Value (I'm just a strong opponent of SMoss)

8.07 - Winslow (TE)

Insane Value

9.06 - Norwood (RB)

Criminally larcenous Value

10.07 - Roethlisberger (QB)

Sick Value

11.06 - Hackett (WR)

Redonkulous Value

12.07 - Green Bay (D)

13.06 - Stover (K)

Note this is a start two WR league, but I personally would much rather be strong at RB2 (Peterson, James) and make due with guys like Edwards, Moss & Hackett, than end up with a combo of say Roy Williams/Fitz as my WR2 and Ahman Green/LenDale White as my RB2.
I rated your draft based on my perception of the value you received in a 12-team league at each pick
 
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I normally am a strict RB guy ... but this year in the 8 hole of a 12 team league I had to deviate BIG TIME from that plan being that the 1st 13 piocks were RB.....which was surprising because someoone normally reaches for Manning or another surprise in RD1.

I think it went great because I was able to pull off a trade to grab a RB 2 .... and I had a prior success in this league in the past finding late round sleeper RB's (Gore last year).

12 Team.... All TDs 6.... Start 1QB 1RB 2WR 2 Flex.. must draft 2 QB, 4RB, 6 WR TE

Actual Draft Before Trade ....

01.08 RB Brian Westbrook (no ppr but his production and easy SOS make me think he will great again this year)

02.05 WR Steve Smith (with 12 RBs gone only Drew, Portis , R Brown , Edge drew consideration here) (I am down on all of them)

03.08 WR Roy Williams (only Lynch YUCK , Green for RB - was hoping Portis made it back to me but he was taken at 3.07)

04.05 WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh (was either him or T.Jones , went with the BPA IMO)

05.08 QB Jon Kitna (Big play QB's went fast in RD4 Bulger , Brady , Romo, McNabb - so went with potenial breakout perfomer (no INTs)

06.05 RB LaMont Jordan (Took him over some other RBBC canidates) (Was still plenty of 4th tier RBs availible...as well)

So in the 1st 6 Rounds bucking the Stud RB theory I was able to construct a pretty nice team, with greaat WR's.

BUT ...

I was than offered a trade from the guy in 1.10 Spot .... he did not grab a QB yet and has a man crush on RW "The Legend" ...so he offerd his 1.10 pick Willis McGahee and his 4.03 Pick in Andre Johnson for my 5.08 Jon Kitna and 3.08 Roy Williams.

I am very high on McGahee and AJ this year and saw there were still very good QB's availible (Rivers, Cutler, Leinart, Hasselbeck) and this was a great oppurtunity to grab a nice RB 2 (who I scoped out for my 2nd round pick in pre draft prep)

Took with my next picks :

07.08 QB Philip Rivers ( made this pick after I completed the trade)

08.05 WR Santonio Holmes (Gave me a nice WR4)

Final Roster....

07.08 QB Philip Rivers

11.08 QB Matt Hasselbeck

01.08 RB Brian Westbrook

01.10 RB Willis McGahee (acquired via trade)

06.05 RB LaMont Jordan

10.05 RB Jerious Norwood (can keep for 08) (had him targeted with this pick, hoping he fell here)

02.05 WR Steve Smith

04.05 WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh

04.03 WR Andre Johnson (acquired via trade)

08.05 WR Santonio Holmes

16.05 WR Demetrius Williams (can keep for 08)

13.08 WR Dwayne Bowe (can keep for 08)

09.08 PK Shayne Graham

14.05 PK Jason Elam

15.08 DEF New York Giants

12.05 DEF Dallas

Prior to the trade I think it was a very good team ... after the trade it became great.

 
Marc Levin said:
And many drafters who took three RBs in the first 4 rounds after landing a stud WR in round 1 or 2 did very well.
My favorite (and hopefully best) draft this season went as follows (12 team; standard scoring; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, K, D):1.06 - Addai (RB)

Zero Value

2.07 - S. Smith (WR)

Great Value

3.06 - Peterson (RB)

Zero to negative Value

4.07 - James (RB)

Huge Value

5.06 - Bulger (QB)

Zero to negative value

6.07 - Edwards (WR)

Zero Value

7.06 - Santana Moss (WR)

Negative Value (I'm just a strong opponent of SMoss)

8.07 - Winslow (TE)

Insane Value

9.06 - Norwood (RB)

Criminally larcenous Value

10.07 - Roethlisberger (QB)

Sick Value

11.06 - Hackett (WR)

Redonkulous Value

12.07 - Green Bay (D)

13.06 - Stover (K)

Note this is a start two WR league, but I personally would much rather be strong at RB2 (Peterson, James) and make due with guys like Edwards, Moss & Hackett, than end up with a combo of say Roy Williams/Fitz as my WR2 and Ahman Green/LenDale White as my RB2.
I rated your draft based on my perception of the value you received in a 12-team league at each pick
I appreciate your analysis, and while our perceptions of player's value might differ slightly, I am onbaord with nearly all or your comments (save for Moss).However, I think it's really tough to draft according to the FBG way of thinking (maximize value at every pick), especially when you play with others who don't share that same philosophy. A couple of example below:

3.06 - Peterson: I had Peterson my top ranked RB on the board at this point; kool-aid maybe, but that's not the point. I know his ADP may be well below where I took him, but I also know my leaguemates and would have been willing to put down (a lot) of money he wouldn't have lasted until my pick at 4.07. At 3.06, I could have taken Gates, Brady or Fitzgerald instead if I had gone with another position. Had I gone somewhere other than RB, I was afraid round four would have netted be a RB2 the likes of Julius Jones, Lynch, Jamal or DeAngelo. I though that Peterson + low tier WR2 > Jamal/Julius/Deangelo + Fitz.

5.06 - Bulger: By this pick, six QBs were already off the board, as well as every WR down to Reggie Brown on my board. I debated between Bulger and Edwards ath this pick. However, I felt if I went Edwards, Bulger would be gone by my next pick netting me a QB much later like Manning, Roeth or Cutler. It's not that Idon't like those guys, but I have lost too many FF leagues due to horrible QB play beacuse I waited on the position. Aside from Edwards, there were a bunch of early #3 WRs I liked, I figured would be there in round 6; luckily Edwards lasted.

On the flip side, I don't think some of my late-round picks were as good as they look. With the small rosters (13-man) and only having to start two WRs, most teams are fairly deep at both WR & RB. It surprised me to get Norwood & Winslow where I did, but when I took Hackett, there were still a few guys left I had in the WR35-45 range. Roethlisberger was actually one of the first few backup QBs off the board. Most teams seem to elect to go D & K before rounds 12 & 13 and take their backup QB with their last pick. Also a couple of teams doubled up on TEs and a number of other took handcuffs (Turner, Davenport, Leonard...) earlier than expected.

My only point with all this rambling is that while I try to maximize value with my picks, and do think that is a very important concept, sometimes reaching for a player or taking a position earlier than expectedbased on the dynamics of a draft, ultimately leads to a better team in the long run. Sure, my team could have turned out better, but it also could have turned out a lot worse.

- Had I known I could have gotten James in round 4, I would not have taken Peterson in round 3.

- Had I know Roethlisberger would be there to pair up with a Cutler/Leinart/Manning late, I would have passed on Bulger.

- Had I known value at WR (Hackett) would have been there so late, I might have jumped on a top D earlier.

 
I know his ADP may be well below where I took him, but I also know my leaguemates and would have been willing to put down (a lot) of money he wouldn't have lasted until my pick at 4.07. At 3.06, I could have taken Gates, Brady or Fitzgerald instead if I had gone with another position. Had I gone somewhere other than RB, I was afraid round four would have netted be a RB2 the likes of Julius Jones, Lynch, Jamal or DeAngelo. I though that Peterson + low tier WR2 > Jamal/Julius/Deangelo + Fitz.
Excellent use of dynamic VBD. As your draft turned out, passing on Gates was the right move. I have an instinct, however, that the Draft Dominator would have weighted towards Gates very heavily at that pick.Regardless, your draft demonstrates clearly that three RBs and a stud WR in the first four rounds is a real nuice way to start a draft this year - even if you didn't have the post-8th round gems, it was a great start to a starting group of players.BTW, my only criteria for making a call "zero" or "negative" value was if I felt you reached above the ADP - zero value is a good thing. It means the players was chosen at the appropriate place based solely on ADP without considering your rankings, projections, or your fellow drafters' propensities :lol:
 
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P.S. - Norwood carries a 5.08 ADP - getting him in the 9th of a 12 team draft is :lol:

 
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I would much rather my team consist of:RB1: Steven JacksonRB2: Julius Jones or Jerious NorwoodWR1: Steve SmithWR2: Marvin HarrisonthenRB1: SJaxRB2: Ronnie Brown or Brandon Jacobs
??? w/o naming the "leftover scraps" at WR1/2, how can you make this assumption.And, in the above example, did you really see the WR 1 or WR2 (SS) available at either 2.11 or 2.09? If so, then the RB value was all eroded anyway and two WRs was clearly the way to go.
Thats what the issue was; 3 or 4 teams took 3 RB's with their first 3 picks and everyone else but 1 took 2 RB. So by the time 2.11 and 3.02 the value at RB was completely eroded. There was also a run on QB's because its a 6 point Passing TD league. I couldn't believe other teams would let Steve Smith and Marvin Harrison fall that far but I was more than happy to pick them.The league is also just 2 RB / 2 WR so having S Jax should cover my RB2
 
yinzer said:
I don't like to use myself as another example, but here's how my first few rounds went:1.4 - LJ2.7 - McGahee3.4 - Jacobs4.7 - Wayne5.4 - Roy WNow, there were 3-5 picks in the rounds 3-5 that allowed RW & RW to slip to me, so I will admit I was lucky to get 2 Top 10 WR's, but even when people were surprised I took Jacobs then in round 3, I KNEW that a Top 10 WR would still be there for me in round 4.From what I see, I haven't seen 1 team (LJ, SJax or not) who has a solid RB2 after they have drafted a WR in rounds 2&3. They seem to have depth, but if you're looking for Caddy, DeShaun, FTaylor, LenDale, or Norwood to be a solid RB2 you are very mistaken. I think LenDale and others can easily outproduce their ADP, but those expecting a consistent RB2 from a platoon like this is fooling themselves. Do Benson, Jacobs, Drew, or James have some risk involved? Yes, but their floor is probably the ceiling of the guys named as RB's in other posts. You, my friend, are :rolleyes: if you think that 2 stud WR's are better than a SOLID RB2
I think your team would look a lot better if you took a WR or QB at #3. I'm guessing you took Jacobs over a top 3 QB or a top 5 RB, if you already have LT and Willis, Jacobs' isn't of much value to you.
 
jagerbomb said:
yinzer said:
I don't like to use myself as another example, but here's how my first few rounds went:

1.4 - LJ

2.7 - McGahee

3.4 - Jacobs

4.7 - Wayne

5.4 - Roy W

Now, there were 3-5 picks in the rounds 3-5 that allowed RW & RW to slip to me, so I will admit I was lucky to get 2 Top 10 WR's, but even when people were surprised I took Jacobs then in round 3, I KNEW that a Top 10 WR would still be there for me in round 4.

From what I see, I haven't seen 1 team (LJ, SJax or not) who has a solid RB2 after they have drafted a WR in rounds 2&3. They seem to have depth, but if you're looking for Caddy, DeShaun, FTaylor, LenDale, or Norwood to be a solid RB2 you are very mistaken. I think LenDale and others can easily outproduce their ADP, but those expecting a consistent RB2 from a platoon like this is fooling themselves.

Do Benson, Jacobs, Drew, or James have some risk involved? Yes, but their floor is probably the ceiling of the guys named as RB's in other posts.

You, my friend, are :goodposting: if you think that 2 stud WR's are better than a SOLID RB2
I think your team would look a lot better if you took a WR or QB at #3. I'm guessing you took Jacobs over a top 3 QB or a top 5 RB, if you already have LT and Willis, Jacobs' isn't of much value to you.
First off, I have *LJ*, not *LT*Second, in this 10 team league we start 2 RB's and 1 RB/WR flex - I think having a good RB in the flex is much better than having a WR in there. RB's are just more consistent when you can plug a good one in the flex. So I will likely start Jacobs at least 10 weeks, and if he produces close to what I think he conceivably can (1100/180, 10+) or more, I think he's a steal. Plus, I have ADP, KJ, and Tatum.

Third - Peyton, Palmer, Brady, I know were all gone, Brees and VY shortly after my pick. I've always been a QBBC guy. Everyone had a QB by Round 5 except me. I had highway robbery of McNabb in the 8th round, and Romo's my backup who I got in the 10th or 11th. I wasn't expecting McNabb, but I could have easily had a QBBC of Kitna/Romo and been perfectly fine with it.

Fourth - I dont know how I would look better if I took a WR in the 3rd because in my eyes Wayne and Roy W are 2 Top 8 WR's. I know Smith, Ocho, TO, and Harrison were all gone by my 3rd. So I still ended up getting 2 Top 8-10 WR's, 2 WR's who in my mind certainly have the skills and surrounding team/system to even possibly outproduce any WR and end up being #1 by years end. Plus, Driver slid to me in the 6th due to injury concerns.

So picking in the 4th slot of a 10 teamer (and I would say 7-8 of these guys know what they're doing):

QB - McNabb, Romo

RB - LJ, Willis, Jacobs, ADP, KJ, Tatum

WR - Wayne, Roy W, Driver, Mark Clayton

TE - Winslow

K - Gostkowski

DL - DeMeco Ryans, Keith Bullock

DB - Ronde

As in the FF TJ commercial, I myself am already proclaiming "chaampionship"

I think you've had 1 too many jager bombs. You really think I went wrong with Jacobs?!

 
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This is a work league draft. (standard scoring, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs including returned TDs, -2 for turnovers, 10 pts for shutouts and some graded scoring for points given up)

Start 1QB / 2RB / 3WR / 1TE / 1PK / 1 DST

12 person draft.

I started out having some fun by making a couple of negative value picks...

1.01 - LaDainian Tomlinson

2.12 - Chad Johnson

3.01 - Reggie Wayne

4.12 - Chicago Bears (I know I know, but you can tell by my handle where I live)

5.01 - Adrian Peterson (This was just dumb, I went with the highest rated RB left that DD spit out, but he's not even a starter yet)

6.12 - Ahman Green (what do you know? everyone just started filling their rosters so nobody took a RB3 yet)

7.01 - Deuce McAllister (mwahahahah)

8.12 - Santonio Holmes

9.01 - Bernard Berrian

10.12 - Big Ben (maybe 16th or 17th QB taken)

11.01 - Heath Miller

12.12 - DeShaun Foster (wtf?)

13.01 - Minnesota Vikings

14.12 - Matt Stover

My team:

QB: Big Ben

RB: LT2, Ahman, Deuce, D. Foster, Adrian Peterson

WR: Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Santonio Holmes, Bernard Berrian

TE: Heath Miller

DST: Minnesota

PK: Matt Stover

So I basically grabbed the two RBs I should've at the 4/5 turn at the 6/7 turn instead, and stole another RB and Big Ben much later. (I was planning on doing QBBC until I realized I was going to get Big Ben)

I don't think this would happen in money leagues...

 

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