rockbottom895
Footballguy
Chargers over Cowboys 24-17. Tomlinson rushes for two and wins the MVP. Well done.
Not "correct" only statistically closer to correct. This is the 50-50 guess.The rest of us are actually choosing 2 of about 10 teams, and have a 20% chance of being right.DING DING DING!!!!This is the correct answer.Whoever goes from the AFC over whoever goes from the NFC.
Maybe you just have a problem with the word he used, but the Bears defense is no less dominant just because there are 1 or 2 other defenses that are close statistically.A team that is 1 or 2 in points against, turnovers, yards against, etc., etc., etc. = dominant D.All three of NE, Chi and Baltimore are dominant defenses.I'm not saying they are not good, in fact I'll even say they are the best in the league right now - but they are far from dominate. Just look at the stats - there are other defenses that stack up pretty well in a side by side comparison - if you think you can make a case for dominance I would invite you to try.Bottom line: I don't think there is a playoff team in the league that is scared of the Bears defense anymore -
Maybe pedestrian was the wrong word - I'm not saying they are not good, in fact I'll even say they are the best in the league right now - but they are far from dominate. Just look at the stats - there are other defenses that stack up pretty well in a side by side comparison - if you think you can make a case for dominance I would invite you to try.Bottom line: I don't think there is a playoff team in the league that is scared of the Bears defense anymore - not after the Cardinals and Pats shredded them through the air and Gore, Brown, Tiki, and Ahman Green ran all over them on the ground.I'll give you San Diego - but the Bears D not dominant??? You can't be serious. There is only one team in the NFL that has created at least 2 turnovers in EVERY single game - and that would be, the Bears. And only 1 that has allowed (I believe) only 1 - 100 yard rushing performance against them. BTW, I wouldn't call forcing 5 turnovers against a team that has won 3 SuperBowls in a 5 year span recently "pedestrian". The only thing that has been pedestrian about the Bears lately is their QB play. They ripped off 150+ rushing yards against a team that was ranked 4th against the run - and the Pats averaged giving up about half that. If Sexy Rexy wouldn't have turned the ball over 4 times himself, we'd be discussing a team that won 3 straight road games vs. the Giants (who, at the time, were considered the odds-on favs.), the Jets and the Patriots. Simply put, if the Bears can get better than pedestrian stats from their QB, they are the most complete team in the NFC. With their defense, special teams, Thomas Jones and Ced toting the rock, any support from a passing game would put them ahead of most any NFC team...and, I believe, would make them one of the only NFC teams that could take down an AFC opponent in the big dance.Isn't it funny that, of the front runners (Dall, Chi, SD, Ind) only Indie has a QB with a reasonable amount of starting experience and/or playoff experience?...and only the Bears and SD have a defense that can dominate...a must in December/January. Of course the Colts will likely be playing at their house.
Tough call, but I like Colts and Chicago. At a neutral site, Bears 24 Colts 21.
You could replace Colts with Bolts and I wouldn't argue.dominate who? The Chargers defense hasn't dominated anyone since week 2 at Tennessee - and the Bears - they may be tough but I would hardly call them dominate. Aside from the Jets a couple weeks ago they have looked pretty pedestrian lately - and they won't be playing the Jets in the playoffs...
fair enough, but a dominate defense is one that can shut down any opponent it faces. Do you believe that the Bears could shut down NO, Dallas, Indy, Cincy? hell, I'd even bet they couldn't hold SEA to under 20 if they played again.The main reason the Bears are statistically (sp?) #1 is that Chicago has played a bunch of mediocre teams - DET, MIN, GB, Buff, AZ, SF, Jets... and only a handful of teams with above average offenses - namely the Pats (loss), maybe the Giants - not the Seahawks without Alexander. Detroit started slow and Chicago got them in week 2 (remember the little-heralded SEA DEF shut them down in week 1).Maybe you just have a problem with the word he used, but the Bears defense is no less dominant just because there are 1 or 2 other defenses that are close statistically.A team that is 1 or 2 in points against, turnovers, yards against, etc., etc., etc. = dominant D.I'm not saying they are not good, in fact I'll even say they are the best in the league right now - but they are far from dominate. Just look at the stats - there are other defenses that stack up pretty well in a side by side comparison - if you think you can make a case for dominance I would invite you to try.
Bottom line: I don't think there is a playoff team in the league that is scared of the Bears defense anymore -
All three of NE, Chi and Baltimore are dominant defenses.
Yes shredded - Leinart had what - 200 yds and 2 TDs in the first half? They basically went into play-not-to-lose mode after that = James for 40 carries for 60 yds.Maybe pedestrian was the wrong word - I'm not saying they are not good, in fact I'll even say they are the best in the league right now - but they are far from dominate. Just look at the stats - there are other defenses that stack up pretty well in a side by side comparison - if you think you can make a case for dominance I would invite you to try.Bottom line: I don't think there is a playoff team in the league that is scared of the Bears defense anymore - not after the Cardinals and Pats shredded them through the air and Gore, Brown, Tiki, and Ahman Green ran all over them on the ground.I'll give you San Diego - but the Bears D not dominant??? You can't be serious. There is only one team in the NFL that has created at least 2 turnovers in EVERY single game - and that would be, the Bears. And only 1 that has allowed (I believe) only 1 - 100 yard rushing performance against them. BTW, I wouldn't call forcing 5 turnovers against a team that has won 3 SuperBowls in a 5 year span recently "pedestrian". The only thing that has been pedestrian about the Bears lately is their QB play. They ripped off 150+ rushing yards against a team that was ranked 4th against the run - and the Pats averaged giving up about half that. If Sexy Rexy wouldn't have turned the ball over 4 times himself, we'd be discussing a team that won 3 straight road games vs. the Giants (who, at the time, were considered the odds-on favs.), the Jets and the Patriots. Simply put, if the Bears can get better than pedestrian stats from their QB, they are the most complete team in the NFC. With their defense, special teams, Thomas Jones and Ced toting the rock, any support from a passing game would put them ahead of most any NFC team...and, I believe, would make them one of the only NFC teams that could take down an AFC opponent in the big dance.Isn't it funny that, of the front runners (Dall, Chi, SD, Ind) only Indie has a QB with a reasonable amount of starting experience and/or playoff experience?...and only the Bears and SD have a defense that can dominate...a must in December/January. Of course the Colts will likely be playing at their house.
Tough call, but I like Colts and Chicago. At a neutral site, Bears 24 Colts 21.
You could replace Colts with Bolts and I wouldn't argue.dominate who? The Chargers defense hasn't dominated anyone since week 2 at Tennessee - and the Bears - they may be tough but I would hardly call them dominate. Aside from the Jets a couple weeks ago they have looked pretty pedestrian lately - and they won't be playing the Jets in the playoffs...
Yep. You're right. New England walked all over that defense last week. I can't believe Chicago only forced 5 turnovers. What a weak showing.
Shredded?![]()
Leinhart-232/2tds
Brady-267/1td/2ints
Here's Chicago's defensive rankings.
Passing-1st
Rushing-8th
Scoring-1
Turnovers-1
Total Defense-1
Looks pretty dominate to me. Not sure what you mean by dominance. It's a relative term.
No, it's just plain correct.The Colts, Patriots and Chargers are better than anyone in the NFC. The Ravens and Chiefs are as good as or better than anyone in the NFC. The Broncos may be as good as or better than anyone in the NFC depending on how the Cutler thing works out. I'd expect the AFC representative, whoever it is among those teams to beat the NFC representative at a greater than 50-50 chance. As you said the NFC team will probably be the underdog.Not "correct" only statistically closer to correct. This is the 50-50 guess.The rest of us are actually choosing 2 of about 10 teams, and have a 20% chance of being right.DING DING DING!!!!This is the correct answer.Whoever goes from the AFC over whoever goes from the NFC.
(btw, I agree that the AFC is way stronger than the NFC and whichever NFC team goes is appropriately gonna be the underdog)
Do you believe that the Bears could shut down NO, Dallas, Indy, Cincy? hell, I'd even bet they couldn't hold SEA to under 20 if they played again.
I think Dallas can beat most of the AFC teams - of the ones you listed, I'd say Dallas "can beat" every one of those teams, but, especially, the ColtsNo, it's just plain correct.Not "correct" only statistically closer to correct. This is the 50-50 guess.The rest of us are actually choosing 2 of about 10 teams, and have a 20% chance of being right.DING DING DING!!!!This is the correct answer.Whoever goes from the AFC over whoever goes from the NFC.
(btw, I agree that the AFC is way stronger than the NFC and whichever NFC team goes is appropriately gonna be the underdog)
Dallas is everyone's darlings right now, just like the Bears were up until they lost their first one. They've looked nice over the last month, but I'm not sold yet.I think Dallas can beat most of the AFC teams
Yes shredded - Leinart had what - 200 yds and 2 TDs in the first half? They basically went into play-not-to-lose mode after that = James for 40 carries for 60 yds.Maybe pedestrian was the wrong word - I'm not saying they are not good, in fact I'll even say they are the best in the league right now - but they are far from dominate. Just look at the stats - there are other defenses that stack up pretty well in a side by side comparison - if you think you can make a case for dominance I would invite you to try.Bottom line: I don't think there is a playoff team in the league that is scared of the Bears defense anymore - not after the Cardinals and Pats shredded them through the air and Gore, Brown, Tiki, and Ahman Green ran all over them on the ground.I'll give you San Diego - but the Bears D not dominant??? You can't be serious. There is only one team in the NFL that has created at least 2 turnovers in EVERY single game - and that would be, the Bears. And only 1 that has allowed (I believe) only 1 - 100 yard rushing performance against them. BTW, I wouldn't call forcing 5 turnovers against a team that has won 3 SuperBowls in a 5 year span recently "pedestrian". The only thing that has been pedestrian about the Bears lately is their QB play. They ripped off 150+ rushing yards against a team that was ranked 4th against the run - and the Pats averaged giving up about half that. If Sexy Rexy wouldn't have turned the ball over 4 times himself, we'd be discussing a team that won 3 straight road games vs. the Giants (who, at the time, were considered the odds-on favs.), the Jets and the Patriots. Simply put, if the Bears can get better than pedestrian stats from their QB, they are the most complete team in the NFC. With their defense, special teams, Thomas Jones and Ced toting the rock, any support from a passing game would put them ahead of most any NFC team...and, I believe, would make them one of the only NFC teams that could take down an AFC opponent in the big dance.Isn't it funny that, of the front runners (Dall, Chi, SD, Ind) only Indie has a QB with a reasonable amount of starting experience and/or playoff experience?...and only the Bears and SD have a defense that can dominate...a must in December/January. Of course the Colts will likely be playing at their house.
Tough call, but I like Colts and Chicago. At a neutral site, Bears 24 Colts 21.
You could replace Colts with Bolts and I wouldn't argue.dominate who? The Chargers defense hasn't dominated anyone since week 2 at Tennessee - and the Bears - they may be tough but I would hardly call them dominate. Aside from the Jets a couple weeks ago they have looked pretty pedestrian lately - and they won't be playing the Jets in the playoffs...
Yep. You're right. New England walked all over that defense last week. I can't believe Chicago only forced 5 turnovers. What a weak showing.
Shredded?![]()
Leinhart-232/2tds
Brady-267/1td/2ints
Here's Chicago's defensive rankings.
Passing-1st
Rushing-8th
Scoring-1
Turnovers-1
Total Defense-1
Looks pretty dominate to me. Not sure what you mean by dominance. It's a relative term.