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I think Tony will be able to sell to Trice that they are still a tight 5. "LJ was gunning for Woo and we had to make a move. I know you are friends with LJ and I didn't want to put you in a situation to vote against him. I told you before hand that LJ was worrying me. I was honest about that."

 
Tony still has 5 and what he thinks is a idol with Woo. So, Tony still has the numbers although he is with 2 (he and Woo) but in that framework of 5, the other four have to think bringing Tony, who nobody likes, to the final three.

To bad Woo is not a monkey.

But, as of right now, yes, Spencer, Tash and Jeremiah seem to have much more control than they had before.
He never actually thought woo had an idol. Thats just what he was telling LJ.
 
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Bad move by Tony IMO. He is just over thinking everything. Spencer, Jeremiah and Tasha should be able to easily pick up Jefra and Kass and leave Tony, Trish and Woo in the minority now. At least Jefra after she saw Tony turn on her main alliance partner, LJ.

And LJ should have went with Tasha to talk things through.

 
Bad move by Tony IMO. He is just over thinking everything. Spencer, Jeremiah and Tasha should be able to easily pick up Jefra and Kass and leave Tony, Trish and Woo in the minority now. At least Jefra after she saw Tony turn on her main alliance partner, LJ.

And LJ should have went with Tasha to talk things through.
There is nothing easy about picking up Kass. It's the last thing you want to do. Sitting next to her at final tribal? Sure. Trusting her in any way? Nope.

 
Bad move by Tony IMO. He is just over thinking everything. Spencer, Jeremiah and Tasha should be able to easily pick up Jefra and Kass and leave Tony, Trish and Woo in the minority now. At least Jefra after she saw Tony turn on her main alliance partner, LJ.

And LJ should have went with Tasha to talk things through.
There is nothing easy about picking up Kass. It's the last thing you want to do. Sitting next to her at final tribal? Sure. Trusting her in any way? Nope.
They could use her for just one vote, against Tony or Woo. Then they could vote her off and still be in control, as long as Jefro was on board. But with this group nothing is certain. I'm glad Spencer didn't use his idol.

 
I think this might have been just a bit too soon for Tony. It's he and woo teamed up with 3 others. He now doesn't have the numbers. The 3 girls in his old alliance aren't going to trust him, so he can't go back there.

The better move would have been to get rid of one of jeremiah or spencer, then have him, woo and LJ team up with spencer and tash to kick off the 3 girls. Then he has a group of 3 within the power 5.

This now puts spencer, tash and jeremiah in huge control.
If those three stay tight they should rule now. Always liked the Spencer/Tash pairing if they could get through the first few votes after the merge, and I love it now. The two best players in the game tightly allied with each should be strong down the stretch.

Also, I hate to say it since I didn't think she was all that on the island and she's a horrible #####, but Morgan... :shock:

 
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Kass is such a ####### hypocrite. Last night: "I love a good blindside, but you don't go doing it just for the sake of blindsiding for no reason."

Two weeks ago: "Time for Chaos Kass because I like to blindside people"

 
Bad move by Tony IMO. He is just over thinking everything. Spencer, Jeremiah and Tasha should be able to easily pick up Jefra and Kass and leave Tony, Trish and Woo in the minority now. At least Jefra after she saw Tony turn on her main alliance partner, LJ.

And LJ should have went with Tasha to talk things through.
There is nothing easy about picking up Kass. It's the last thing you want to do. Sitting next to her at final tribal? Sure. Trusting her in any way? Nope.
They could use her for just one vote, against Tony or Woo. Then they could vote her off and still be in control, as long as Jefro was on board. But with this group nothing is certain. I'm glad Spencer didn't use his idol.
Any plan with Kass as a critical vote is a horrible plan.

 
I think this might have been just a bit too soon for Tony. It's he and woo teamed up with 3 others. He now doesn't have the numbers. The 3 girls in his old alliance aren't going to trust him, so he can't go back there.

The better move would have been to get rid of one of jeremiah or spencer, then have him, woo and LJ team up with spencer and tash to kick off the 3 girls. Then he has a group of 3 within the power 5.

This now puts spencer, tash and jeremiah in huge control.
If those three stay tight they should rule now. Always liked the Spencer/Tash pairing if they could get through the first few votes after the merge, and I love it now. The two best players in the game tightly allied with each should be strong down the stretch.

Also, I hate to say it since I didn't think she was all that on the island and she's a horrible #####, but Morgan... :shock:
She did look good. I was disappointed that the Ponderosa videos have been tame so far this season

 
Great editing in night vision at the beginning of the episode, Tony said he was so upset when his name came up as the other team's vote that he "almost crapped his pants" over a shot of him with a big dark stain on the back of his shorts...

 
I think this might have been just a bit too soon for Tony. It's he and woo teamed up with 3 others. He now doesn't have the numbers. The 3 girls in his old alliance aren't going to trust him, so he can't go back there.

The better move would have been to get rid of one of jeremiah or spencer, then have him, woo and LJ team up with spencer and tash to kick off the 3 girls. Then he has a group of 3 within the power 5.

This now puts spencer, tash and jeremiah in huge control.
If those three stay tight they should rule now. Always liked the Spencer/Tash pairing if they could get through the first few votes after the merge, and I love it now. The two best players in the game tightly allied with each should be strong down the stretch.

Also, I hate to say it since I didn't think she was all that on the island and she's a horrible #####, but Morgan... :shock:
She did look good. I was disappointed that the Ponderosa videos have been tame so far this season
Wait until those two get to fight for a clean LJ's attention.

 
Bad move by Tony IMO. He is just over thinking everything. Spencer, Jeremiah and Tasha should be able to easily pick up Jefra and Kass and leave Tony, Trish and Woo in the minority now. At least Jefra after she saw Tony turn on her main alliance partner, LJ.

And LJ should have went with Tasha to talk things through.
There is nothing easy about picking up Kass. It's the last thing you want to do. Sitting next to her at final tribal? Sure. Trusting her in any way? Nope.
They could use her for just one vote, against Tony or Woo. Then they could vote her off and still be in control, as long as Jefro was on board. But with this group nothing is certain. I'm glad Spencer didn't use his idol.
Any plan with Kass as a critical vote is a horrible plan.
well, they need someone to vote with them for at least one TC. Just one flip vote (Jefra?) and it is 4-4. I don't see Trish leaving Tony and Woo. Kass could say it was a gesture to make amends with Spence and Tasha. The way it's going, Tony could stay with Spence and Jeremiah and vote off Woo next. Who knows? He is just as much a wild card as Kass. Both of them have flipped and stabbed their own alliance.

 
dammit, I got played by LJ. the first few episodes had me thinking he was sharp, but the last 2 episodes he has looked like a total sheep. as soon as Tony started with the "we should blindside Woo" talk, he should have known that he was being gamed by Tony.

and Woo may be the dumbest contestant yet. I doubt he ever really knows what's going on.

 
The best part was when Tony, with the numbers and having just voted out one of the minority alliance, comes back to camp and whines to those same people for writing down his name. Talk about narcissism.

 
And, no HII clue at the reward? Did they not search?
Yeah, doesn't look like anyone's even trying to find it. Either weird editing or terrible gameplay.
:goodposting: You had the mad scramble last week to find one idol and since then nothing..

and if you are Spencer... you know you found a plain idol, and there is still one with "special powers" out there how can you not be searching night and day for it. :confused:

 
And, no HII clue at the reward? Did they not search?
Yeah, doesn't look like anyone's even trying to find it. Either weird editing or terrible gameplay.
From what I'm reading on other sites, there was a clue to the special HII at the spa. Those three idiots all missed it.
That is what I figured since Spencer found a clue at a reward. Tony was talking about clues being at rewards. Survivor could have showed us, ala The Amazing Race, where the clue was located. A simple flash would have sufficed.

 
I don't think it was a poor move by Tony at all. He gains the allegiance of Spencer and Jeremiah (possibly Tash via Spencer). Him and Woo seem to be really tight. I don't think you could have counted Kass as ever being loyal to him. Jefra by extension as well.

Now he's positioned himself with 2 of the stronger challenge players with Jeremiah and Spencer along with Woo. If they are smart they vote out Cass next who is a complete wildcard. Then Jefra. Neither should be able to win immunity.

 
I don't think it was a poor move by Tony at all. He gains the allegiance of Spencer and Jeremiah (possibly Tash via Spencer). Him and Woo seem to be really tight. I don't think you could have counted Kass as ever being loyal to him. Jefra by extension as well.

Now he's positioned himself with 2 of the stronger challenge players with Jeremiah and Spencer along with Woo. If they are smart they vote out Cass next who is a complete wildcard. Then Jefra. Neither should be able to win immunity.
Short term this is all good but overall for a million... bad move by Tony. He needs Jefra and Trish in the final three.

 
I don't think it was a poor move by Tony at all. He gains the allegiance of Spencer and Jeremiah (possibly Tash via Spencer). Him and Woo seem to be really tight. I don't think you could have counted Kass as ever being loyal to him. Jefra by extension as well.

Now he's positioned himself with 2 of the stronger challenge players with Jeremiah and Spencer along with Woo. If they are smart they vote out Cass next who is a complete wildcard. Then Jefra. Neither should be able to win immunity.
Only if they want him -- which why would they? I'd pick up Jeffra first and see how things shook out with a 5th before I sided with Tony.

 
I don't think it was a poor move by Tony at all. He gains the allegiance of Spencer and Jeremiah (possibly Tash via Spencer). Him and Woo seem to be really tight. I don't think you could have counted Kass as ever being loyal to him. Jefra by extension as well.

Now he's positioned himself with 2 of the stronger challenge players with Jeremiah and Spencer along with Woo. If they are smart they vote out Cass next who is a complete wildcard. Then Jefra. Neither should be able to win immunity.
Short term this is all good but overall for a million... bad move by Tony. He needs Jefra and Trish in the final three.
I don't think so. Tony with his game play alone IMO deserves it so far. The biggest threat is probably Spencer who was all but dead earlier in the season, but has been really strong virtually the entire game in challenges and staying alive.

 
I don't think it was a poor move by Tony at all. He gains the allegiance of Spencer and Jeremiah (possibly Tash via Spencer). Him and Woo seem to be really tight. I don't think you could have counted Kass as ever being loyal to him. Jefra by extension as well.

Now he's positioned himself with 2 of the stronger challenge players with Jeremiah and Spencer along with Woo. If they are smart they vote out Cass next who is a complete wildcard. Then Jefra. Neither should be able to win immunity.
Short term this is all good but overall for a million... bad move by Tony. He needs Jefra and Trish in the final three.
I don't think so. Tony with his game play alone IMO deserves it so far. The biggest threat is probably Spencer who was all but dead earlier in the season, but has been really strong virtually the entire game in challenges and staying alive.
The jury needs a reason to vote FOR Tony. Jefra and Trish give the jury a reason to vote for him.

Having anyone else in the final three with Tony gives the jury a reason to not vote for him.

 
I don't think it was a poor move by Tony at all. He gains the allegiance of Spencer and Jeremiah (possibly Tash via Spencer). Him and Woo seem to be really tight. I don't think you could have counted Kass as ever being loyal to him. Jefra by extension as well.

Now he's positioned himself with 2 of the stronger challenge players with Jeremiah and Spencer along with Woo. If they are smart they vote out Cass next who is a complete wildcard. Then Jefra. Neither should be able to win immunity.
Only if they want him -- which why would they? I'd pick up Jeffra first and see how things shook out with a 5th before I sided with Tony.
Well Cass pretty much burnt all bridges with Spencer and Tash. Woo and Spencer are on opposite sides as well. Tony seems to be the only one in the middle that can connect the two groups. Jefra so far is worthless and her biggest asset was being friends with LJ.

 
I don't think it was a poor move by Tony at all. He gains the allegiance of Spencer and Jeremiah (possibly Tash via Spencer). Him and Woo seem to be really tight. I don't think you could have counted Kass as ever being loyal to him. Jefra by extension as well.

Now he's positioned himself with 2 of the stronger challenge players with Jeremiah and Spencer along with Woo. If they are smart they vote out Cass next who is a complete wildcard. Then Jefra. Neither should be able to win immunity.
Short term this is all good but overall for a million... bad move by Tony. He needs Jefra and Trish in the final three.
I don't think so. Tony with his game play alone IMO deserves it so far. The biggest threat is probably Spencer who was all but dead earlier in the season, but has been really strong virtually the entire game in challenges and staying alive.
The jury needs a reason to vote FOR Tony. Jefra and Trish give the jury a reason to vote for him.

Having anyone else in the final three with Tony gives the jury a reason to not vote for him.
The only person he needs to not be next to is Spencer IMO.

 
I don't think it was a poor move by Tony at all. He gains the allegiance of Spencer and Jeremiah (possibly Tash via Spencer). Him and Woo seem to be really tight. I don't think you could have counted Kass as ever being loyal to him. Jefra by extension as well.

Now he's positioned himself with 2 of the stronger challenge players with Jeremiah and Spencer along with Woo. If they are smart they vote out Cass next who is a complete wildcard. Then Jefra. Neither should be able to win immunity.
Short term this is all good but overall for a million... bad move by Tony. He needs Jefra and Trish in the final three.
I don't think so. Tony with his game play alone IMO deserves it so far. The biggest threat is probably Spencer who was all but dead earlier in the season, but has been really strong virtually the entire game in challenges and staying alive.
The jury needs a reason to vote FOR Tony. Jefra and Trish give the jury a reason to vote for him.

Having anyone else in the final three with Tony gives the jury a reason to not vote for him.
The only person he needs to not be next to is Spencer IMO.
Right now, the jury will vote for Spencer, Tash and possibly Jeremiah just because they don't like Tony. I believe every jury will vote for the player as long as player A outperforms the other two AND is the tiniest bit likable. Some on this jury respect Tony's game play but won't vote for him since there will be more likable people with him. Except for Jefra and Trish, imo.

 
Why do you think Trish is more dislike then Tony with the jury?
She hasn't done anything. I don't think she wins with Tony next to her. Same with Jefra. Those two cannot make a case to the jury that they deserve the money. Each other contestant has something to say if they were sitting next to him, imo.

 
"Deserves the money" means nothing to roughly 90% of survivor juries. They'll always vote for the nice girl who wasn't mean to them.

 
I don't think it was a poor move by Tony at all. He gains the allegiance of Spencer and Jeremiah (possibly Tash via Spencer). Him and Woo seem to be really tight. I don't think you could have counted Kass as ever being loyal to him. Jefra by extension as well.

Now he's positioned himself with 2 of the stronger challenge players with Jeremiah and Spencer along with Woo. If they are smart they vote out Cass next who is a complete wildcard. Then Jefra. Neither should be able to win immunity.
Short term this is all good but overall for a million... bad move by Tony. He needs Jefra and Trish in the final three.
I don't think so. Tony with his game play alone IMO deserves it so far. The biggest threat is probably Spencer who was all but dead earlier in the season, but has been really strong virtually the entire game in challenges and staying alive.
The jury needs a reason to vote FOR Tony. Jefra and Trish give the jury a reason to vote for him.

Having anyone else in the final three with Tony gives the jury a reason to not vote for him.
The only person he needs to not be next to is Spencer IMO.
Right now, the jury will vote for Spencer, Tash and possibly Jeremiah just because they don't like Tony. I believe every jury will vote for the player as long as player A outperforms the other two AND is the tiniest bit likable. Some on this jury respect Tony's game play but won't vote for him since there will be more likable people with him. Except for Jefra and Trish, imo.
is Tony really that disliked? he has been pretty well liked and was close to Sara/LJ before he voted them out, i guess they could take it personally but in recent seasons most understand it's a game and give credit to those who make moves.

It isn't like he's pissing people off, most players have wanted to work with him thus far.

 
Makes no sense that they all went crazy for an idol. Never found it. Now nobody looks for it and it's like it doesn't exsist.

 
Like I said before, think Kass cruises to the final 3. People don't like her. She never did much. She's perfect for the final 3, she won't get a vote. I bet her smug attitude says otherwise.

 
Like I said before, think Kass cruises to the final 3. People don't like her. She never did much. She's perfect for the final 3, she won't get a vote. I bet her smug attitude says otherwise.
Shes risky to have in the final 3 because shes an attorney and could literally make a good case for herself.

 
A few episodes back, Tony actually admitted to everyone in his tribe that he was a cop. That was his way of proving he was trustworthy, by teling them he had been lying. So I'm not 100% sure who still thinks he works in construction. Seemed kinda odd to still be going that route when it'd be so easy for any of the others to out him.

Morgan was dressed way too conservatively.

 
Like I said before, think Kass cruises to the final 3. People don't like her. She never did much. She's perfect for the final 3, she won't get a vote. I bet her smug attitude says otherwise.
Shes risky to have in the final 3 because shes an attorney and could literally make a good case for herself.
But when the jury is also the plaintiff and the witness, there's really not much she can say to convince a majority to give her a million bucks.

 
Like I said before, think Kass cruises to the final 3. People don't like her. She never did much. She's perfect for the final 3, she won't get a vote. I bet her smug attitude says otherwise.
Shes risky to have in the final 3 because shes an attorney and could literally make a good case for herself.
But when the jury is also the plaintiff and the witness, there's really not much she can say to convince a majority to give her a million bucks.
Kass may be a lawyer in real life, but she hasn't shown me anything during her time in the game to make it look like she would be able to talk her way out of a situation. Just because she is a lawyer doesn't mean she goes to trial and pleads someone's case.

 
Morgans breasts looked very full in that dress...without a bra they were heaving back and forth when she was walking.

 
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Like I said before, think Kass cruises to the final 3. People don't like her. She never did much. She's perfect for the final 3, she won't get a vote. I bet her smug attitude says otherwise.
Shes risky to have in the final 3 because shes an attorney and could literally make a good case for herself.
But when the jury is also the plaintiff and the witness, there's really not much she can say to convince a majority to give her a million bucks.
Kass may be a lawyer in real life, but she hasn't shown me anything during her time in the game to make it look like she would be able to talk her way out of a situation. Just because she is a lawyer doesn't mean she goes to trial and pleads someone's case.
IMO one of the biggest things that helps you win this game is that final speech. You can play an ok game but if you are good at persuasion you have an advantage. So when looking for someone in the final 3 you want someone that people likely wouldn't vote for and people that would likely not be able to express themselves well in that final tribal. I believe she is a trial lawyer and even if she wasnt most attorneys are taught how to argue a point. I would think twice about picking her for final 3. Someone like the other cop chick would have been perfect. She doesnt seem like she would do well in that final tribal and noone really liked her. Morgan would have been good as well.

 
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A few episodes back, Tony actually admitted to everyone in his tribe that he was a cop. That was his way of proving he was trustworthy, by teling them he had been lying. So I'm not 100% sure who still thinks he works in construction. Seemed kinda odd to still be going that route when it'd be so easy for any of the others to out him.

Morgan was dressed way too conservatively.
did he tell his old tribe or his new alliance he was a cop? I couldn't remember for sure, but I thought it was pretty strange that he was still claiming to be in construction if people at tribal council knew otherwise.

 
Does anyone know if the producers ask the final 3 to remain seated when they make their statements to the jury? Many seasons ago some would stand when speaking to the jury. Although it may seem like a minor thing, I think it makes a difference if it would be a close vote. Recently, none of the finalists have stood, and wonder if that was intentional.

 
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A few episodes back, Tony actually admitted to everyone in his tribe that he was a cop. That was his way of proving he was trustworthy, by teling them he had been lying. So I'm not 100% sure who still thinks he works in construction. Seemed kinda odd to still be going that route when it'd be so easy for any of the others to out him.

Morgan was dressed way too conservatively.
did he tell his old tribe or his new alliance he was a cop? I couldn't remember for sure, but I thought it was pretty strange that he was still claiming to be in construction if people at tribal council knew otherwise.
he told us new alliance. i guess he was trying to keep up the rouse to the other players.

 
Kass lost half the jury votes by backstabbing them in a bad way and flipping. That type of betrayal generally isn't forgiven. Tony hasn't really back stabbed anyone, he's just playing the game. He seems like an ### on camera, but he seems to have a decent repoire with all the contestants.

Tasha hasn't done a damn thing IMO. Her and Jefra have been sandbagging most of the game. I would put Jeremiah in that boat too. They need to start playing the game if they want to win votes.

Best game play of the remaining contestants is probably

Tony

spencer

Woo

 
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Michael Brown said:
A few episodes back, Tony actually admitted to everyone in his tribe that he was a cop. That was his way of proving he was trustworthy, by teling them he had been lying. So I'm not 100% sure who still thinks he works in construction. Seemed kinda odd to still be going that route when it'd be so easy for any of the others to out him.

Morgan was dressed way too conservatively.
did he tell his old tribe or his new alliance he was a cop? I couldn't remember for sure, but I thought it was pretty strange that he was still claiming to be in construction if people at tribal council knew otherwise.
he told us new alliance. i guess he was trying to keep up the rouse to the other players.
No one actually trusts Tony do they? Woo probably is his closest ally remaining. I think most players know he's always scheming, but they are still willing to work with him. That's having a good social game IMO along with his strong physical.

 
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Like I said before, think Kass cruises to the final 3. People don't like her. She never did much. She's perfect for the final 3, she won't get a vote. I bet her smug attitude says otherwise.
Shes risky to have in the final 3 because shes an attorney and could literally make a good case for herself.
But when the jury is also the plaintiff and the witness, there's really not much she can say to convince a majority to give her a million bucks.
Kass may be a lawyer in real life, but she hasn't shown me anything during her time in the game to make it look like she would be able to talk her way out of a situation. Just because she is a lawyer doesn't mean she goes to trial and pleads someone's case.
IMO one of the biggest things that helps you win this game is that final speech. You can play an ok game but if you are good at persuasion you have an advantage. So when looking for someone in the final 3 you want someone that people likely wouldn't vote for and people that would likely not be able to express themselves well in that final tribal. I believe she is a trial lawyer and even if she wasnt most attorneys are taught how to argue a point. I would think twice about picking her for final 3. Someone like the other cop chick would have been perfect. She doesnt seem like she would do well in that final tribal and noone really liked her. Morgan would have been good as well.
My problem with keeping Kass in the game is that you can't trust her for ####. She can flip in an instant. That's a very difficult person to play the game with when you are relying on votes.

 

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