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Survivor Cagayan (1 Viewer)
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tdoss
Footballguy
Did Trish or jury get to see it was 4 to 1?
Cause there's no way Trish would not know that Tony flipped on her, right?
Also, I gotta think that Jeff takes the idol away, right?
Would've thought he was going to say something tonight but that'll probably be the big showing next episode before they go to any competitions...otherwise, it's just unfair to allow him to keep it and act like it still has use.
tdoss
Footballguy
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Huh? That never happens. There have been fake idols people believed were real. People have lied about idol powers before. People have kept idols past the expiration date. That's the game. No one is taking idols away.
The only tip they're going to get is that after the votes are cast, but before they're read, Jeff won't say "If anyone has a hidden immunity idol, now is the time to play it".
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Jeff only reads as far as he needs to to get to the conclusion. It's up to Trish and the other players to infer it was 4-1 but no one will have absolute proof. Plausible deniability is a part of the game as well.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Not really and the precedent is already set that you can do phony things with idols. Yao Man was allowed to make fake idols, I don't see how this is any different.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Not sure if anything can be gleaned from handwriting but that's an unfair advantage to Tony if his is the vote that isn't read.
Would like to know how Jeff determines which votes are revealed.
I think a "super" idol brings a lot more uncertainty. Everyone understands the game-play with regular idols.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
He arranges them to maximize the drama. So if Trish were smart she would know that it was 4-1.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Jayrok
Footballguy
Spot on.If Spencer makes the final he wins.
If he doesn't Tony wins.
Kass has played a pretty decent strategic game, but is a social moron.
Woo
Jayrok
Footballguy
Yep. Tony was spot on when he said Kass was delusional. She really thinks she can sell that Tony has backstabbed everyone on the jury and she'll win against him. She constantly ignores the fact that she has stabbed everyone repeatedly.And after this week the reaction from the jury when she gave the finger to Trish as she walked away sealed her fate of zero votes.
When she was trying to get Spence to trust her that was classic. She's turned on Spence on three occasions. Lunacy.
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rick6668
Footballguy
I remember one season where Jeff did NOT reveal a vote that he could have. Tried to search for it but I can't find it.
A few funny things I came across while searching:
During the second Tribal Council of Survivor: Borneo, the Pagong tribe jokingly voted for Jeff Probst. They were asked to redo their vote.
In Survivor: All-Stars Richard Hatch smuggled a set of matches between his butt cheeks. Since the incident, subsequent contestants are strip-searched prior to filming.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
So based on the fact that Tony wanted Trish out. Might he have thrown this puzzle?
Had he won immunity, he would have had to use that idol on trish and if he hadnt, she would be pissed. I wonder if he threw it.
rick6668
Footballguy
Found it. Survivor Guatemala, Episode 1, Everyone voted for Jim and Jim voted for Margaret, but Jeff only revealed 5 votes for Jim and the Margaret vote was not revealed. I never understood that.I remember one season where Jeff did NOT reveal a vote that he could have. Tried to search for it but I can't find it.
A few funny things I came across while searching:
During the second Tribal Council of Survivor: Borneo, the Pagong tribe jokingly voted for Jeff Probst. They were asked to redo their vote.
In Survivor: All-Stars Richard Hatch smuggled a set of matches between his butt cheeks. Since the incident, subsequent contestants are strip-searched prior to filming.
Jayrok
Footballguy
I think Tony tried to win immunity and just sucks on puzzles. He said that he is bad at puzzles and would have been there all day trying to do it.So based on the fact that Tony wanted Trish out. Might he have thrown this puzzle?
Had he won immunity, he would have had to use that idol on trish and if he hadnt, she would be pissed. I wonder if he threw it.
He also wanted to vote out Woo last night but after Kass upended the apple cart, he had to promise Woo to regain his trust. So he didn't have a choice but to vote for Trish IMO. He absolutely wants to keep Kass for the finals, so Trish was his only choice.
Fiddles
Footballguy
She's a lock for heroes vs villains if it happens again
dhockster
Footballguy
Tony is smart enough to know that if Spencer makes it to the end, Spencer wins. Therefore, Tony's only hope is for someone other than Spencer to win immunity. Tony, Kass, and Trish have shown that they are basically worthless in immunity challenges. While Woo isn't great himself, he can definitely win any sort of physical endurance challenge.
Also, while Trish is not likely to get a lot of votes if she made the finals, Kass is pretty much assured of getting no votes. Tony realized this, and like his wife told him, he is doing anything he needs to to win the game. Including voting off a friend to take an enemy to the finals.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
If they keep three for the finale, winning the next immunity challenge is pretty much worth $1,000,000 to Spencer.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Also... wish they'd shown girl cop's face when Trish said she got along with everyone out there. Since Trish is the reason she quit the game and all.
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Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
It's also the time in the game when you want some friends on the jury. There is no way Kass would vote for him to win, Trish likely still will.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
She hasn't played a bad game. She has swung her vote multiple times, and hasn't been shy about letting it be known. She has fought openly, and she loves to flash that #### eating grin when she purposely stirs the pot. She knows she isn't winning friends, but she has played her own game out there.She's a lock for heroes vs villains if it happens again
John Bender
Footballguy
No chance. He flew through the other 2 portions of the puzzle and didn't sandbag it all. I also think his ego/heart wouldn't allow him to throw a challenge. No chance, imo.So based on the fact that Tony wanted Trish out. Might he have thrown this puzzle? Had he won immunity, he would have had to use that idol on trish and if he hadnt, she would be pissed. I wonder if he threw it.
snogger
Footballguy
Not quite sure that is true.. IMO, she believes she is liked by all but Trish and Tony and that she is a shoo in to win if she brings Tony with her..She hasn't played a bad game. She has swung her vote multiple times, and hasn't been shy about letting it be known. She has fought openly, and she loves to flash that #### eating grin when she purposely stirs the pot. She knows she isn't winning friends, but she has played her own game out there.She's a lock for heroes vs villains if it happens again
She may think Tony is the "Hantz" of 2014, but she may want to place a mirror in front of herself the next time she points finger and says "Hantz of 2014!"
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
My guess is, the idols are no longer in play. So Jeff comes to take the special idol back.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
"Woo, do you have any thoughts on this?"
"I do! (pause) What are you guys thinking?"
Sarnoff
Footballguy
She actually said, "I'd like to trust Woo's promise, but, he's promised things before and then not followed through on them." Yes, exactly, like the last ####### tribal where he promised Spenser he'd vote Tony but then went back on his promise. Just like you did.Yep. Tony was spot on when he said Kass was delusional. She really thinks she can sell that Tony has backstabbed everyone on the jury and she'll win against him. She constantly ignores the fact that she has stabbed everyone repeatedly.And after this week the reaction from the jury when she gave the finger to Trish as she walked away sealed her fate of zero votes.
When she was trying to get Spence to trust her that was classic. She's turned on Spence on three occasions. Lunacy.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Yeah, odd. Perhaps it was edited out for time. Presumably everyone would have known Jim did not vote for himself anyway.Found it. Survivor Guatemala, Episode 1, Everyone voted for Jim and Jim voted for Margaret, but Jeff only revealed 5 votes for Jim and the Margaret vote was not revealed. I never understood that.I remember one season where Jeff did NOT reveal a vote that he could have. Tried to search for it but I can't find it.
A few funny things I came across while searching:
During the second Tribal Council of Survivor: Borneo, the Pagong tribe jokingly voted for Jeff Probst. They were asked to redo their vote.
In Survivor: All-Stars Richard Hatch smuggled a set of matches between his butt cheeks. Since the incident, subsequent contestants are strip-searched prior to filming.
blend
Footballguy
I actually think Trish would have the best chance to knock off Spencer in the final immunity challenge... it's usually somethign like stand on this 2" platform... With her skeleton like appearance, I would think she'd be more likely to win. Although Woo did do well in another one of those wait it out type of challenges earlier in the season.
I can see both sides of it. I think in the end, Tony thought that Trish would be a sure jury vote and that's why he went that route.
snogger
Footballguy
Why would he do that? Players have gone home with the idols before..
Now, he could announce at the next Challenge that since no idols, even the special idol, can be used from here on out everyone is in a must win situation..
But can't see Jeff arriving at camp to take it away from him.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Yep.. and the last challenge is usually an endurance and balance challenge. Right in Woo's wheelhouse.
Jayrok
Footballguy
I agree. And he should take Woo and Kass with him. Tony may get some votes but I think Spence wins if he's in the finals.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
Sarnoff
Footballguy
It really has been. After years of boring repetitiveness, the Blood/Water season added a new dynamic and this thing with no returning players and just enough certifiable loons really made the last year excellent and surprising.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
During the after show I hope they have a cutup of Tony saying "I promise on my"... followed by every single person he's ever known, his badge, his honor as a cop, and etc etc
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
And agree... a great season. All five of the folks left last night have sharply different personalities and they're all characters in one way or another. Plus three of them are playing hard.
Throw in the eye candy, Tash's studliness, the backstabbing and the crazy people and it's a keeper.
Throw in the eye candy, Tash's studliness, the backstabbing and the crazy people and it's a keeper.
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
It's easy to say that during this outstanding season. I agree to some extent, but it doesn't always work.
The two "all new player" seasons before this one were both pretty terrible... One World (Kim) and Nicaragua (Fabio).
dhockster
Footballguy
I have been saying for a couple of weeks that it looks like the finals has to be two people since that is the way the episodes lined up.
I still say this because the finale is two hours and they are down to 4 right now. I can't see filling two hours with only one tribal before the final tribal.
Has there been a 2 hour finale where they didn't have two TC's before the final tribal? I don't think there has.
If it is a final two, Spencer still has to win two immunities. Someone posted last week about the comment Spencer or Kass made early on that only two whole tribes stood between the
brain tribe and final TC. At this point Spencer would definitely take Kass to the finals. Tony has controlled the game, and Woo is likable. Kass is unliked by all. Easy decision.
I predict Spencer wins two immunities and wins this thing.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Only scenario I would be happy with, other than Woo somehow pulling it out, which I doubt. I hope you're right.
