Taking a Counter-offer to stay at a job (1 Viewer)

[TLEF316]

Take the new job and Irish Good Bye on the way out.

I'll speak to my boss and give my notice today. Good chance they'll tell me thanks but no-thanks and escort me out soon after. (Maybe they'll give me a few minutes to put together a summary of open items and contacts for my boss, which I'd be happy to do) The new company was talking about a July 27th starting date, so it looks like this will be the Summer of TLEF.

 

[Spike]

I'm with the vast majority saying "take the new job".

One thing to add - you seem at least a bit concerned about the new manager ("frumpy" and "woman" and "40s-50s"). I've had a few that were seemingly that type and some of them were great and some weren't. Don't judge the book by the cover.

 

[Keerock]

Recently made a move leaving a "comfortable" position for one that paid more. Based on your description and my recent experience, no brainer... take the new job!

 

[matuski]

Eff that guy pulling the game of returning to his office.

 

[Keerock]

Take the new job and Irish Good Bye on the way out.

I'll speak to my boss and give my notice today. Good chance they'll tell me thanks but no-thanks and escort me out soon after. (Maybe they'll give me a few minutes to put together a summary of open items and contacts for my boss, which I'd be happy to do) The new company was talking about a July 27th starting date, so it looks like this will be the Summer of TLEF.

Before giving notice... make sure to get everything off your computer you want to take with you (put it on a flash drive or email to your personal account), remove your internet favorites/bookmarks, and clear your browsing history.

 

[TLEF316]

Take the new job and Irish Good Bye on the way out.

I'll speak to my boss and give my notice today. Good chance they'll tell me thanks but no-thanks and escort me out soon after. (Maybe they'll give me a few minutes to put together a summary of open items and contacts for my boss, which I'd be happy to do) The new company was talking about a July 27th starting date, so it looks like this will be the Summer of TLEF.

Before giving notice... make sure to get everything off your computer you want to take with you (put it on a flash drive or email to your personal account), remove your internet favorites/bookmarks, and clear your browsing history.

All my favorites and stuff are work related. I went through my personal emails a week or so ago to make sure there wasn't anything on there I would need. Appreciate the advice though.

 

[matuski]

Take the new job and Irish Good Bye on the way out.

I'll speak to my boss and give my notice today. Good chance they'll tell me thanks but no-thanks and escort me out soon after. (Maybe they'll give me a few minutes to put together a summary of open items and contacts for my boss, which I'd be happy to do) The new company was talking about a July 27th starting date, so it looks like this will be the Summer of TLEF.

Before giving notice... make sure to get everything off your computer you want to take with you (put it on a flash drive or email to your personal account), remove your internet favorites/bookmarks, and clear your browsing history.

All my favorites and stuff are work related. I went through my personal emails a week or so ago to make sure there wasn't anything on there I would need. Appreciate the advice though.

Upper decker.

 

[Deepster]

I agree with your uncle and the posters here. Any time you even hint at an offer from another company, you get a label of "that guy". And that sort of thing comes up in "rack and stack" discussions among managers when there are compensation or promotions in play. If there is a question of giving it to you or someone who's shown to be more of a good soldier, you'll lose that one every time because they don't know if next week is the week you get another offer and take it.

Additionally, if you knew you were up for a sizeable bonus, why even interview somewhere else? It sounds like your 2015 compensation of salary/bonus is going to be far less than it could have been, right?

1/2 year salary at current pay level

+

1/2 year salary at new level (current +30%)

+

Sign on bonus

Should be less than:

1/2 year salary at current pay level

+

1/2 year salary at new level with counteroffer

+

Bonus at current company

On top of that, you're starting from scratch on everything else and not guaranteed a big year in 2016 either.

 

[gianmarco]

So long story somewhat short.....I was less than 100% happy at my current job for a variety of reasons.

Your words....

 

[Godsbrother]

I agree with most everyone else here -- go for the new job. Good luck and I hope all goes well for you.

Come back and let us know how it goes after you break the news to your current employer.

 

[Krankie]

You were unhappy enough to even interview for the other job...

"No other incentives or concessions and he claims that's all he can do without bumping me up a pay band (which he claims he can't do based on my poor 2014)"

Not sure why I would even consider staying when they would bring that up during a negotiation session (they aren't explaining a poor raise here, but how much they are interested in keeping you). I guess it depends on your personality, but consider that it is 5-6 years of '13 racks' (minus a ?% yearly raise/bonus also).

Free agency rocks

 

[Ned]

You were unhappy enough to even interview for the other job...

"No other incentives or concessions and he claims that's all he can do without bumping me up a pay band (which he claims he can't do based on my poor 2014)"

Not sure why I would even consider staying when they would bring that up during a negotiation session (they aren't explaining a poor raise here, but how much they are interested in keeping you). I guess it depends on your personality, but consider that it is 5-6 years of '13 racks' (minus a ?% yearly raise/bonus also).

Free agency rocks

 

[shadyridr]

Take the new job and Irish Good Bye on the way out.

I'll speak to my boss and give my notice today. Good chance they'll tell me thanks but no-thanks and escort me out soon after. (Maybe they'll give me a few minutes to put together a summary of open items and contacts for my boss, which I'd be happy to do) The new company was talking about a July 27th starting date, so it looks like this will be the Summer of TLEF.

make sure you have accepted the other offer first duh

 

[Rooster]

It's hard for me to imagine staying with a company after indicating to them that I've been looking for and received an offer from another company. It's even harder for me to imagine staying with a company that said they wanted me but came up with excuses about why they couldn't even match the competing offer, that's a huge red flag to me.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

What industry and role are you in?

 

[Joe Summer]

If you have confidence in yourself, take the job.

 

[TLEF316]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

 

[msommer]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

Congrats and GL!

 

[shadyridr]

I think you made a big mistake

 

[SIDA!]

Good luck. Just not sure why you decided to jump ship mid-year. Seems like you might have been able to land the job at the new place after you secured your bonus for this year from the now old place.

 

[gianmarco]

No brainer. Take the new job

I think you made a big mistake

 

[sbonomo]

You need to get over this woman boss thing...pretty ridiculous. Ever think that maybe that attitude (or something similar) is why you aren't getting the offer you want from your current job? Also, if lady boss truly stinks at her job isn't that an opportunity for you? Especially versus staying where you are essentially the same age as your boss?

i dont have any issues working for a woman. I've been doing so for the past 2 years with zero problems.

This particular woman just hasn't inspired much confidence in our interactions so far. Just seems kinda meh.

I've been going back and forth on this all night. At this point, it really does seem like actions speak louder than words. My current employer is in growth mode (led by me this year), is already short staffed and still only threw a token raise my way to try to get me to stay. I absolutely hate to leave in the middle of a successful year like this, but it really doesn't seem like they're all that concerned about it. They clearly value the budget (which I still don't believe is valid. We've lost 2 or 3 high paid individuals over the course of the past year and replaced them with cheaper folks) and the "message" my raise would send over me as an individual. Meanwhile, new company is falling all over themselves trying to hire me despite having a much larger team and no real NEED to fill an opening.

there is nothing to think about here. Put your two weeks in today.

 

[sbonomo]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

congrats! You made the right choice here... Now get in learn the system and have a huge year in2016...

 

[ChiefD]

Congrats.

 

[johnnycakes]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

Whoa. When I was with The Firm, if someone was on good terms with them, the departure would not be abrupt like that. It would be at least a two-week process to make sure everything gets transitioned in an orderly fashion.

If someone was NOT on good terms, though... then the boxes would be waiting by the time they got back from HR and they'd get one hour to pack their #### and gtfo while being supervised the whole time.

 

[shadyridr]

No brainer. Take the new job

I think you made a big mistake

it was a joke

 

[gianmarco]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

Whoa. When I was with The Firm, if someone was on good terms with them, the departure would not be abrupt like that. It would be at least a two-week process to make sure everything gets transitioned in an orderly fashion.

If someone was NOT on good terms, though... then the boxes would be waiting by the time they got back from HR and they'd get one hour to pack their #### and gtfo while being supervised the whole time.

Yeah, that seems quite unceremonious.

 

[jwb]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

Whoa. When I was with The Firm, if someone was on good terms with them, the departure would not be abrupt like that. It would be at least a two-week process to make sure everything gets transitioned in an orderly fashion.

If someone was NOT on good terms, though... then the boxes would be waiting by the time they got back from HR and they'd get one hour to pack their #### and gtfo while being supervised the whole time.

Some companies just do this as an across the board policy.

 

[johnnycakes]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

Whoa. When I was with The Firm, if someone was on good terms with them, the departure would not be abrupt like that. It would be at least a two-week process to make sure everything gets transitioned in an orderly fashion.

If someone was NOT on good terms, though... then the boxes would be waiting by the time they got back from HR and they'd get one hour to pack their #### and gtfo while being supervised the whole time.

Some companies just do this as an across the board policy.

I get it. It's a culture thing. The Firm as a strong alumni network... if you leave on good terms (generally eligible for re-hire, but former partners and directors who leave "on good terms", while generally not eligible for re-hire, are considered part of "the network".. unlike employees who get escorted out) they treat you pretty well after giving notice... they know you can be a source of business going forward and they want to keep it friendly.

 

[larch]

Didn't read anything in the thread, but if you take the counter offer to stay at the current job, if there was ever a round of layoffs, guess who will probably be the first person getting the pink slip...

 

[TLEF316]

The "you have to leave today" thing is company policy. They don't want you hanging around with access to customer data if you're leaving for a competitor

 

[Corporation]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

Congrats on the new job!

 

[johnnycakes]

The "you have to leave today" thing is company policy. They don't want you hanging around with access to customer data if you're leaving for a competitor

Yeah leaving for a competitor is frowned upon by The Firm. Leaving to join a client is encouraged.

 

[Corporation]

The "you have to leave today" thing is company policy. They don't want you hanging around with access to customer data if you're leaving for a competitor

This is pretty standard and I wouldn't be concerned over this. You should be eligible for re-hire since you gave proper notice.

 

[James Daulton]

For those saying when you accept the counter offer you're blackballed or more likely to be let go, if that is the case, why would the company counter in the first place? Obviously the company values the person or they wouldn't bother countering and would be happy to get rid of the person.

I think the acceptance of the counter being negative is overstated. Sometimes it's the only way to reset your income back to market levels. Companies don't typically do all they can to make sure their good workers are kept at market. Maybe the negative counter thing is sales related?

 

[Corporation]

For those saying when you accept the counter offer you're blackballed or more likely to be let go, if that is the case, why would the company counter in the first place? Obviously the company values the person or they wouldn't bother countering and would be happy to get rid of the person.

I think the acceptance of the counter being negative is overstated. Sometimes it's the only way to reset your income back to market levels. Companies don't typically do all they can to make sure their good workers are kept at market. Maybe the negative counter thing is sales related?

I mentioned earlier accepting a counter offer is not a bad thing as long as it is not a regular occurrence. I'm not in sales though so perhaps it is different.

 

[comfortably numb]

No brainer. Take the new job

I think you made a big mistake

it was a joke

I thought it was funny

 

[acarey50]

For those saying when you accept the counter offer you're blackballed or more likely to be let go, if that is the case, why would the company counter in the first place? Obviously the company values the person or they wouldn't bother countering and would be happy to get rid of the person.

I think the acceptance of the counter being negative is overstated. Sometimes it's the only way to reset your income back to market levels. Companies don't typically do all they can to make sure their good workers are kept at market. Maybe the negative counter thing is sales related?

It could also be a way for the company to buy time to find a replacement and then let him go, rather than the alternative of him walking out the door with no replacement in place.

 

[Chemical X]

i wouldn't take a counter. they'll always know only the money kept you and you'll always know you cared enough to find another job.

take the new offer and enjoy life.

 

[comfortably numb]

Just curious on the interaction when you initially brought this up to your current employer.

Is it

"Hey, I got an offer from another company and I am considering leaving, what can you do for me"

"I found another job and I am giving my 2 weeks"

 

[TLEF316]

Just curious on the interaction when you initially brought this up to your current employer.

Is it

"Hey, I got an offer from another company and I am considering leaving, what can you do for me"

"I found another job and I am giving my 2 weeks"

Basically the first one.

 

[johnnycakes]

Just curious on the interaction when you initially brought this up to your current employer.

Is it

"Hey, I got an offer from another company and I am considering leaving, what can you do for me"

"I found another job and I am giving my 2 weeks"

Basically the first one.

Not this one?

 

[The Duff Man]

I left for a competitor this month as well, to take my bosses job with them.

Decided to start early when I was walked out the door.....collected two paychecks for two weeks

 

[johnnycakes]

Joe Bonamassa, August 12, Bangor, ME

 

[Ash]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

Whoa. When I was with The Firm, if someone was on good terms with them, the departure would not be abrupt like that. It would be at least a two-week process to make sure everything gets transitioned in an orderly fashion.

If someone was NOT on good terms, though... then the boxes would be waiting by the time they got back from HR and they'd get one hour to pack their #### and gtfo while being supervised the whole time.

Standard behaviour in anything Sales related though, especially if he's moving to a competitor. Not sure if either of those are the case here.

 

[Brony]

So I broke the news this morning. As expected, they politely asked me to turn in some stuff (ID badge, credit card, phone ) and take off. I put a list of open items together for my boss so he knows who to call on some stuff, said my goodbyes and left. Kinda sad about it but excited for the opportunity.

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and good thoughts.

I assume that you broke the news via email. I hear that's the way it's done nowadays.

 

[Otis]

Congrats man. You made the right call. GL

 

[Jack White]

For those saying when you accept the counter offer you're blackballed or more likely to be let go, if that is the case, why would the company counter in the first place? Obviously the company values the person or they wouldn't bother countering and would be happy to get rid of the person.

I think the acceptance of the counter being negative is overstated. Sometimes it's the only way to reset your income back to market levels. Companies don't typically do all they can to make sure their good workers are kept at market. Maybe the negative counter thing is sales related?

It could also be a way for the company to buy time to find a replacement and then let him go, rather than the alternative of him walking out the door with no replacement in place.

This is exactly right.

 

[Johnny Rock]

For those saying when you accept the counter offer you're blackballed or more likely to be let go, if that is the case, why would the company counter in the first place? Obviously the company values the person or they wouldn't bother countering and would be happy to get rid of the person.

I think the acceptance of the counter being negative is overstated. Sometimes it's the only way to reset your income back to market levels. Companies don't typically do all they can to make sure their good workers are kept at market. Maybe the negative counter thing is sales related?

It could also be a way for the company to buy time to find a replacement and then let him go, rather than the alternative of him walking out the door with no replacement in place.

This is exactly right.

It's exactly right some of the time.

 

[bushdocda]

Congrats. I don't think a big raise and a month off sounds too bad.