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Who is the one WR outside of the FBGs Top 20 (give or take) that you're targeting in all of your leagues?
Deion BranchWho is the one WR outside of the FBGs Top 20 (give or take) that you're targeting in all of your leagues?
I haven't seen Edwards outside the top 20... but if he is there - yeah, grab him!Braylon Edwards.Former #3 overall pick has undisputed skills. The guy shocked the world by starting Week 1 last year. He then exceeded expectations by posting 61-884-6 (with 37-506-5 the last 9 games). Outside a <cough><cough> healthy Winslow, he's the only big-play threat on the entire roster. He'll see his double-teams...he'll have crappy QB play...but his team will be playing from behind and throwing the ball A LOT.Top-10 upside.
Ooops...I thought he was in the 20-30 rankings.I haven't seen Edwards outside the top 20... but if he is there - yeah, grab him!Braylon Edwards.Former #3 overall pick has undisputed skills. The guy shocked the world by starting Week 1 last year. He then exceeded expectations by posting 61-884-6 (with 37-506-5 the last 9 games). Outside a <cough><cough> healthy Winslow, he's the only big-play threat on the entire roster. He'll see his double-teams...he'll have crappy QB play...but his team will be playing from behind and throwing the ball A LOT.Top-10 upside.
I like Clayton too, but you haven't really heard much about him in the preaseason. most of the buzz out of training camp seems to be around Demetrius Williams. Still like him though.*Hackett*
Followed by
Mark Clayton
Santonio Holmes
Brandon Marshall
Ronald Curry
Maybe the ADP needs to be updated? "Last updated: August 9"Looks like he's #24. behind Calvin (in a redraft, as much as I like the kid, I don't see it) and Coles. WD made the right choice here.Ooops...I thought he was in the 20-30 rankings.I haven't seen Edwards outside the top 20... but if he is there - yeah, grab him!Braylon Edwards.Former #3 overall pick has undisputed skills. The guy shocked the world by starting Week 1 last year. He then exceeded expectations by posting 61-884-6 (with 37-506-5 the last 9 games). Outside a <cough><cough> healthy Winslow, he's the only big-play threat on the entire roster. He'll see his double-teams...he'll have crappy QB play...but his team will be playing from behind and throwing the ball A LOT.Top-10 upside.
I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.
Check. Got them both in my draft last Saturday.Greg Jennings.And for the last pick of almost every draft, David Boston.
If you're just talking WRs in a contract year, I might agree. But any player in a contract year, I'd offer up Shaun Alexander, 2 years ago. Dude ran for the money. He griped going into the season that he wanted to get paid. He got paid and then suxored. He'll likely by a #8-12 RB this season too.I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.
Yep, just what I was thinking too.If you're just talking WRs in a contract year, I might agree. But any player in a contract year, I'd offer up Shaun Alexander, 2 years ago. Dude ran for the money. He griped going into the season that he wanted to get paid. He got paid and then suxored. He'll likely by a #8-12 RB this season too.I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.
Check. Got them both in my draft last Saturday.Greg Jennings.And for the last pick of almost every draft, David Boston.![]()
Yep, just what I was thinking too.If you're just talking WRs in a contract year, I might agree. But any player in a contract year, I'd offer up Shaun Alexander, 2 years ago. Dude ran for the money. He griped going into the season that he wanted to get paid. He got paid and then suxored. He'll likely by a #8-12 RB this season too.I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.
No West Coast bias there...Yep, just what I was thinking too.If you're just talking WRs in a contract year, I might agree. But any player in a contract year, I'd offer up Shaun Alexander, 2 years ago. Dude ran for the money. He griped going into the season that he wanted to get paid. He got paid and then suxored. He'll likely by a #8-12 RB this season too.I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.I hope Shaun Alexander isn't your career year example. Yes, he had a phenomenal 2005, but I think that he did so well because he wanted the TD record. It might even have to do with the fact the the Seahawks had their best year as a team as well and went to the Super Bowl. Hmmm, nah, must have been the money.
Also, since 2005 was when he "ran for the money", why is it that in 2004 he was also the #1 fantasy RB? Was he prepping himself for running for the money the next year? Since he was #6 in 2003, #5 in 2002, and #4 in 2001, he must have been running for the money his entire career.![]()
ETA: Not to sidetrack this discussion because I agree with a lot of the opinions in this thread. If Oakland's offense can sniff a decent season, either Porter or Curry could have a good season and both are probably ridiculously cheap if you can figure out who is WR1 on the team. I like Edwards, Cotchery, Galloway (especially if Clayton is released), Jennings, Holmes and Crayton if Glenn doesn't get well.
Also, I do like Branch a lot. With all the hype that Hackett is getting, I keep seeing over and over on ESPN them talking about how much they are expecting from Branch this year, i.e. he will be getting the DJax love from Hasselbeck.
Why doesn't he want the TD record every year? Was it just that one year, that he really really wanted it? Or did it also happen to be in his contract year?Yep, just what I was thinking too.If you're just talking WRs in a contract year, I might agree. But any player in a contract year, I'd offer up Shaun Alexander, 2 years ago. Dude ran for the money. He griped going into the season that he wanted to get paid. He got paid and then suxored. He'll likely by a #8-12 RB this season too.I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.I hope Shaun Alexander isn't your career year example. Yes, he had a phenomenal 2005, but I think that he did so well because he wanted the TD record. It might even have to do with the fact the the Seahawks had their best year as a team as well and went to the Super Bowl. Hmmm, nah, must have been the money.
Also, since 2005 was when he "ran for the money", why is it that in 2004 he was also the #1 fantasy RB? Was he prepping himself for running for the money the next year? Since he was #6 in 2003, #5 in 2002, and #4 in 2001, he must have been running for the money his entire career.![]()
ETA: Not to sidetrack this discussion because I agree with a lot of the opinions in this thread. If Oakland's offense can sniff a decent season, either Porter or Curry could have a good season and both are probably ridiculously cheap if you can figure out who is WR1 on the team. I like Edwards, Cotchery, Galloway (especially if Clayton is released), Jennings, Holmes and Crayton if Glenn doesn't get well.
Also, I do like Branch a lot. With all the hype that Hackett is getting, I keep seeing over and over on ESPN them talking about how much they are expecting from Branch this year, i.e. he will be getting the DJax love from Hasselbeck.
No West Coast bias there...Yep, just what I was thinking too.If you're just talking WRs in a contract year, I might agree. But any player in a contract year, I'd offer up Shaun Alexander, 2 years ago. Dude ran for the money. He griped going into the season that he wanted to get paid. He got paid and then suxored. He'll likely by a #8-12 RB this season too.I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.I hope Shaun Alexander isn't your career year example. Yes, he had a phenomenal 2005, but I think that he did so well because he wanted the TD record. It might even have to do with the fact the the Seahawks had their best year as a team as well and went to the Super Bowl. Hmmm, nah, must have been the money.
Also, since 2005 was when he "ran for the money", why is it that in 2004 he was also the #1 fantasy RB? Was he prepping himself for running for the money the next year? Since he was #6 in 2003, #5 in 2002, and #4 in 2001, he must have been running for the money his entire career.![]()
ETA: Not to sidetrack this discussion because I agree with a lot of the opinions in this thread. If Oakland's offense can sniff a decent season, either Porter or Curry could have a good season and both are probably ridiculously cheap if you can figure out who is WR1 on the team. I like Edwards, Cotchery, Galloway (especially if Clayton is released), Jennings, Holmes and Crayton if Glenn doesn't get well.
Also, I do like Branch a lot. With all the hype that Hackett is getting, I keep seeing over and over on ESPN them talking about how much they are expecting from Branch this year, i.e. he will be getting the DJax love from Hasselbeck.![]()
Ah yes, name calling goes a long way towards credibility in the Shark Pool.No West Coast bias there...Yep, just what I was thinking too.If you're just talking WRs in a contract year, I might agree. But any player in a contract year, I'd offer up Shaun Alexander, 2 years ago. Dude ran for the money. He griped going into the season that he wanted to get paid. He got paid and then suxored. He'll likely by a #8-12 RB this season too.I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.I hope Shaun Alexander isn't your career year example. Yes, he had a phenomenal 2005, but I think that he did so well because he wanted the TD record. It might even have to do with the fact the the Seahawks had their best year as a team as well and went to the Super Bowl. Hmmm, nah, must have been the money.
Also, since 2005 was when he "ran for the money", why is it that in 2004 he was also the #1 fantasy RB? Was he prepping himself for running for the money the next year? Since he was #6 in 2003, #5 in 2002, and #4 in 2001, he must have been running for the money his entire career.![]()
ETA: Not to sidetrack this discussion because I agree with a lot of the opinions in this thread. If Oakland's offense can sniff a decent season, either Porter or Curry could have a good season and both are probably ridiculously cheap if you can figure out who is WR1 on the team. I like Edwards, Cotchery, Galloway (especially if Clayton is released), Jennings, Holmes and Crayton if Glenn doesn't get well.
Also, I do like Branch a lot. With all the hype that Hackett is getting, I keep seeing over and over on ESPN them talking about how much they are expecting from Branch this year, i.e. he will be getting the DJax love from Hasselbeck.![]()
West Coast bias? Man, I grew up in New England and live in NC. There isn't a team on the West Coast that I follow. I follow UConn in college basketball and the Yankees in baseball. They have a couple guys who grew up in Cali, does that count?
Maybe I had Branch on my team last year and with DJax gone, I was thinking about keeping him. Maybe, I am just not an idiot when it comes to fantasy and realize that West Coast fantasy points are the same as East Coast ones. Nah, must have been West Coast bias.
Seriously I can't help you if you don't get this. If a player is on a pace to break the record or has a chance, the team may feed him the ball to get him the record.Look at 2005. Seattle basically had home field wrapped up going into the game with Indy since Tony Dungy's son had committed suicide and the Colts stars weren't going to play (Indy had already clinched the week before). Alexander got 21 carries and 3 TDs to tie the record. He then got 20 carries and 1 TD in week 17 when Seattle had clinch home field, so while most other players would have gotten time off, he got a normal workload both weeks to tie and break the record. Alexander scored quite a bit in weeks 15-17 in the 3 previous years and even then he was still at best 5 TDs away.Why doesn't he want the TD record every year? Was it just that one year, that he really really wanted it? Or did it also happen to be in his contract year?Yep, just what I was thinking too.If you're just talking WRs in a contract year, I might agree. But any player in a contract year, I'd offer up Shaun Alexander, 2 years ago. Dude ran for the money. He griped going into the season that he wanted to get paid. He got paid and then suxored. He'll likely by a #8-12 RB this season too.I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.I hope Shaun Alexander isn't your career year example. Yes, he had a phenomenal 2005, but I think that he did so well because he wanted the TD record. It might even have to do with the fact the the Seahawks had their best year as a team as well and went to the Super Bowl. Hmmm, nah, must have been the money.
Also, since 2005 was when he "ran for the money", why is it that in 2004 he was also the #1 fantasy RB? Was he prepping himself for running for the money the next year? Since he was #6 in 2003, #5 in 2002, and #4 in 2001, he must have been running for the money his entire career.![]()
ETA: Not to sidetrack this discussion because I agree with a lot of the opinions in this thread. If Oakland's offense can sniff a decent season, either Porter or Curry could have a good season and both are probably ridiculously cheap if you can figure out who is WR1 on the team. I like Edwards, Cotchery, Galloway (especially if Clayton is released), Jennings, Holmes and Crayton if Glenn doesn't get well.
Also, I do like Branch a lot. With all the hype that Hackett is getting, I keep seeing over and over on ESPN them talking about how much they are expecting from Branch this year, i.e. he will be getting the DJax love from Hasselbeck.
OK, sorry. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I wasn't calling you an idiot directly, just saying that West Coast bias may mean something in college where rankings are a bit objective, but it is a silly notion in a league like the NFL where you have real playoffs.I just had to reply to that "West Coast bias" comment you made. How about some stats or real discussion? I haven't seen anything worthwhile to make me think you are correct that Alexander's career year in 2005 was purely about the $$$ and not because of a big step up that the entire team made and his pursuit of the TD record.Ah yes, name calling goes a long way towards credibility in the Shark Pool.No West Coast bias there...Yep, just what I was thinking too.If you're just talking WRs in a contract year, I might agree. But any player in a contract year, I'd offer up Shaun Alexander, 2 years ago. Dude ran for the money. He griped going into the season that he wanted to get paid. He got paid and then suxored. He'll likely by a #8-12 RB this season too.I assume from your post that you are suggesting that contract year guys can be more valuable. I have posted many times in response to this kind of statement... can anyone provide any evidence to support this theory? Given that no one has ever been able to show evidence that a contract year is meaningful, I chalk this up to a myth.Now, Berrian may still be a great candidate to target outside the top 20...I love the contract year guys like Berrian.I hope Shaun Alexander isn't your career year example. Yes, he had a phenomenal 2005, but I think that he did so well because he wanted the TD record. It might even have to do with the fact the the Seahawks had their best year as a team as well and went to the Super Bowl. Hmmm, nah, must have been the money.
Also, since 2005 was when he "ran for the money", why is it that in 2004 he was also the #1 fantasy RB? Was he prepping himself for running for the money the next year? Since he was #6 in 2003, #5 in 2002, and #4 in 2001, he must have been running for the money his entire career.![]()
ETA: Not to sidetrack this discussion because I agree with a lot of the opinions in this thread. If Oakland's offense can sniff a decent season, either Porter or Curry could have a good season and both are probably ridiculously cheap if you can figure out who is WR1 on the team. I like Edwards, Cotchery, Galloway (especially if Clayton is released), Jennings, Holmes and Crayton if Glenn doesn't get well.
Also, I do like Branch a lot. With all the hype that Hackett is getting, I keep seeing over and over on ESPN them talking about how much they are expecting from Branch this year, i.e. he will be getting the DJax love from Hasselbeck.![]()
West Coast bias? Man, I grew up in New England and live in NC. There isn't a team on the West Coast that I follow. I follow UConn in college basketball and the Yankees in baseball. They have a couple guys who grew up in Cali, does that count?
Maybe I had Branch on my team last year and with DJax gone, I was thinking about keeping him. Maybe, I am just not an idiot when it comes to fantasy and realize that West Coast fantasy points are the same as East Coast ones. Nah, must have been West Coast bias.
It is too bad that the Atlanta QB is Harrington, because 2007 would have been a perfect year for everyone to actually see whether or not it really was Vick or the WRs. Maybe we still will. I think Crumpler may lose a lot of value if the WRs actually start producing.Has White pretty much secured a starting spot? At this point, I really don't think Joe Horn is still effective and like I mentioned above with Oakland, if an Atlanta WR actually steps up to be the #1 guy, you can get a team's #1 WR for really, really cheap. Sure, White won't be a TO or Harrison, but when you can pick up the #1 WR on a team as late as you can with Atlanta/Oakland, they could be a huge value. If they suck again, you have an open roster spot and don't lose much.It seems like Roddy White might be a guy to keep an eye on. He's been generating some positive press/comments here in the Atlanta area thus far. FWIW.