"Tatum Bell may not be back in 2007" (1 Viewer)

[phillzphan]

(Rotoworld) Denver Post's Bill Williamson believes Tatum Bell may not be back with the team in 2007.Impact: At the very least, Bell looks unlikely to be the team's starter again. And if a new starter is brought in and Mike Bell is the backup, Tatum could have... (More)

What do you guys think of this guys speculation? Where do you think Tatum could possibly go? Will he be a starter next year?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Houston to reunite with Kubiak? The NYJ could be in the market for an upgrade from Barlow/Houston. Cleveland could use a better RB.

 

[bucki4life]

Houston to reunite with Kubiak? The NYJ could be in the market for an upgrade from Barlow/Houston. Cleveland could use a better RB.

So you're saying that Tatum is better than Leon Washington and Reuben Droughns? Will the Browns get the Broncos O line if they sign Tatum? If so, then Crennel better put the pressure on to sign him NOW!

 

[Da Guru]

Take Tikis place in NY and share time with Jacobs.

Tatum can`t handle a full load..he has weak toes.

 

[zamboni]

As noted in other Broncos' threads, I doubt Tatum is shown the door given that he's relatively inexpensive. While his days as a starter in Denver are likely over, he's still a quality backup/COP back at a reasonable price.

 

[djb916420]

what does this say about mike bell? will he be the starter next year, or will denver draft/sign another back. How about nash/cobbs? I for one think tatum is soft, fumbles at cruical times in the games. Mbell has been punching in those tds, its gonna be a long offseason for denver rbs, and for us owners who spent picks on these guys.

 

[Kit Fisto]

January 3rd and here we go again...

Denver will either draft a rookie or bring in a FA.

 

[Banger]

I speculated on this yesterday in the Bronco thread and thought one of the two wouldn't be back and that they'd add a back via FA/trade/draft so this "news" isn't real surprising. The rushing attack is what this franchise is all about and it was the worst it's been in probably the last 10 years. Tatum's main issue coming into the season was whether he could be a feature back and take the week in/week out pounding. I think that question has been answered.

The RB position will be addressed and I doubt the starter is currently on their roster.

 

[Banger]

Houston to reunite with Kubiak? The NYJ could be in the market for an upgrade from Barlow/Houston. Cleveland could use a better RB.

Kubiaks got Dayne so who knows. I doubt he will continue to be a Denver trash picker though. I doubt the Jets will be in the market for him, he's not much better than any of the 3rd headed monster they have now. He would be terrible behind that line in Clev, his ypc would be about 2.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I speculated on this yesterday in the Bronco thread and thought one of the two wouldn't be back and that they'd add a back via FA/trade/draft so this "news" isn't real surprising. The rushing attack is what this franchise is all about and it was the worst it's been in probably the last 10 years. Tatum's main issue coming into the season was whether he could be a feature back and take the week in/week out pounding. I think that question has been answered. The RB position will be addressed and I doubt the starter is currently on their roster.

Totally agree however Tatum Bell has now had back to back 1,000 yard seasons and there will be a team that thinks he can help them. He would need to go somewhere that he is not the feature back but can get 10-15 carries a game. Ronnie Brown had help in college and I have not seen where he can handle a workload of 20-25 carries a game and sustain it...maybe Bell woul be a welcome addition to Miami.

 

[redman]

Everyone's assuming that he'd go somewhere to start. As with Betts, I just don't see it. I think if he goes anywhere, it's going to be as part of a RBBC or because of an injury problem like in Detroit.

 

[Banger]

I speculated on this yesterday in the Bronco thread and thought one of the two wouldn't be back and that they'd add a back via FA/trade/draft so this "news" isn't real surprising. The rushing attack is what this franchise is all about and it was the worst it's been in probably the last 10 years. Tatum's main issue coming into the season was whether he could be a feature back and take the week in/week out pounding. I think that question has been answered. The RB position will be addressed and I doubt the starter is currently on their roster.

Totally agree however Tatum Bell has now had back to back 1,000 yard seasons and there will be a team that thinks he can help them. He would need to go somewhere that he is not the feature back but can get 10-15 carries a game. Ronnie Brown had help in college and I have not seen where he can handle a workload of 20-25 carries a game and sustain it...maybe Bell woul be a welcome addition to Miami.

I could be a 650 yard back in that offense Agreed on Miami. Maybe Minn as well, they have little depth and what depth they have basically offers the same thing where Bell has more explosiveness than Fason, Moore. Maybe Philly? Probably not though.

 

[zamboni]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.

FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

 

[Banger]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around. I think they try and get someone who can break some tackles and is a good short yardage back. That's where they were hurt this year compared to years past.

 

[Two Deep]

I think they go with M. Bell, Nash and Cobbs and draft an RB in the middle rounds. I don't see them drafting an RB in the early rounds. I also think the untimely death of Williams will change their draft strategy.

 

[rascal]

If Mike Bell was a little bit more explosive the job would be his.

As is I expect the Broncos to deal Tatum around draft time.

Wish they could get something for Foster or Plummer but I doubt they will.

 

[rascal]

I think they go with M. Bell, Nash and Cobbs and draft an RB in the middle rounds. I don't see them drafting an RB in the early rounds. I also think the untimely death of Williams will change their draft strategy.

It might a little but not much. They like Foxworth and Paymah was coming on lately as well. They have bigger holes to fill then the #2 CB.

 

[rascal]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around. I think they try and get someone who can break some tackles and is a good short yardage back. That's where they were hurt this year compared to years past.

That's mostly due to the line then the RB. Check out their play calling on short yardage and goal line situations and it will show that the broncos could not, and therefore passed frequently, in those situations. The Broncos rushing game, despite the numbers, was near as effective this year as it has been in the past.

 

[Banger]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around. I think they try and get someone who can break some tackles and is a good short yardage back. That's where they were hurt this year compared to years past.

That's mostly due to the line then the RB. Check out their play calling on short yardage and goal line situations and it will show that the broncos could not, and therefore passed frequently, in those situations. The Broncos rushing game, despite the numbers, was near as effective this year as it has been in the past.

Not to be cute but "as effective" in what manner? If they had worse stats and they had to pass instead of run in short yardage situations, how were they as effective as prior years?

 

[rascal]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around. I think they try and get someone who can break some tackles and is a good short yardage back. That's where they were hurt this year compared to years past.

That's mostly due to the line then the RB. Check out their play calling on short yardage and goal line situations and it will show that the broncos could not, and therefore passed frequently, in those situations. The Broncos rushing game, despite the numbers, was near as effective this year as it has been in the past.

Not to be cute but "as effective" in what manner? If they had worse stats and they had to pass instead of run in short yardage situations, how were they as effective as prior years?

I didn't type the word "not" there. It should have read, "was NOT near as effective...".

 

[zamboni]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around.

Probably true, although I'm not sure if any of the FAs out there would bring anything more, and it's not the Broncos m.o. to draft one early. We've mentioned Michael Turner many, many times before as a possibility, although he probably stays in SD.

 

[Banger]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around. I think they try and get someone who can break some tackles and is a good short yardage back. That's where they were hurt this year compared to years past.

That's mostly due to the line then the RB. Check out their play calling on short yardage and goal line situations and it will show that the broncos could not, and therefore passed frequently, in those situations. The Broncos rushing game, despite the numbers, was near as effective this year as it has been in the past.

Not to be cute but "as effective" in what manner? If they had worse stats and they had to pass instead of run in short yardage situations, how were they as effective as prior years?

I didn't type the word "not" there. It should have read, "was NOT near as effective...".

Ok, makes more sense and I agree totally. They still ranked 8th in rush yards which is good and doesn't seem like the running game is an issue but I was very surprised that they ranked where they did. The rush game was always money and could always be relied on regardless who was running the ball, this year that wasn't the case which I believe led to Cutler starting sooner than anticipated.

 

[Banger]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around.

Probably true, although I'm not sure if any of the FAs out there would bring anything more, and it's not the Broncos m.o. to draft one early. We've mentioned Michael Turner many, many times before as a possibility, although he probably stays in SD.

I don't think there's any way SD let's him get into Denver's hands. That would cause them problems for years to come.

 

[zamboni]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around.

Probably true, although I'm not sure if any of the FAs out there would bring anything more, and it's not the Broncos m.o. to draft one early. We've mentioned Michael Turner many, many times before as a possibility, although he probably stays in SD.

I don't think there's any way SD let's him get into Denver's hands. That would cause them problems for years to come.

Agreed, unless Denver makes a huge offer that SD can't match. I don't see it happening though.

 

[rascal]

Don't believe the talk about the Broncos not taking a RB early. If they couldn't trade up to take Cutler/Lienart Shanny has stated that they would have taken Maroney.

Shanny wants a top tier back, look at what they did last year during the offseason, and the aknowledgement of them going after Maroney. I expect them to make a move this year for a top tier back.

I only wish they would do the same for a DT. I so want Branch.

 

[rascal]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around.

Probably true, although I'm not sure if any of the FAs out there would bring anything more, and it's not the Broncos m.o. to draft one early. We've mentioned Michael Turner many, many times before as a possibility, although he probably stays in SD.

I don't think there's any way SD let's him get into Denver's hands. That would cause them problems for years to come.

Agreed, unless Denver makes a huge offer that SD can't match. I don't see it happening though.

SD will put a first year tender on him, and Shanny won't give that up for Turner especially to a division rival.

 

[rascal]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around. I think they try and get someone who can break some tackles and is a good short yardage back. That's where they were hurt this year compared to years past.

That's mostly due to the line then the RB. Check out their play calling on short yardage and goal line situations and it will show that the broncos could not, and therefore passed frequently, in those situations. The Broncos rushing game, despite the numbers, was near as effective this year as it has been in the past.

Not to be cute but "as effective" in what manner? If they had worse stats and they had to pass instead of run in short yardage situations, how were they as effective as prior years?

I didn't type the word "not" there. It should have read, "was NOT near as effective...".

Ok, makes more sense and I agree totally. They still ranked 8th in rush yards which is good and doesn't seem like the running game is an issue but I was very surprised that they ranked where they did. The rush game was always money and could always be relied on regardless who was running the ball, this year that wasn't the case which I believe led to Cutler starting sooner than anticipated.

Despite a lot of fans hating Plummer, the QB was not the biggest problem with the Broncos this year. And switching to Cutler proved that. He was just the easiest to fix, or at least try something new, during the season.

 

[zamboni]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around.

Probably true, although I'm not sure if any of the FAs out there would bring anything more, and it's not the Broncos m.o. to draft one early. We've mentioned Michael Turner many, many times before as a possibility, although he probably stays in SD.

I don't think there's any way SD let's him get into Denver's hands. That would cause them problems for years to come.

Agreed, unless Denver makes a huge offer that SD can't match. I don't see it happening though.

SD will put a first year tender on him, and Shanny won't give that up for Turner especially to a division rival.

I could see not wanting to give SD a 1st rounder, but in return they'd also nab a player from their divisional rival. The big thing IMO would be the sizable contract plus the pick, as opposed to using that same pick on a rookie RB.

 

[Donnybrook]

How the tide has turned. I remember in the 2nd preseason game Mike Bell fumbled. Commentary at the time was that Mike is a known fumbler and would never regain the job from the sure-handed speed merchant Tatum. The tale of the tape at the end of season - Tatum five fumbles lost and Mike zero.

 

[rascal]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around.

Probably true, although I'm not sure if any of the FAs out there would bring anything more, and it's not the Broncos m.o. to draft one early. We've mentioned Michael Turner many, many times before as a possibility, although he probably stays in SD.

I don't think there's any way SD let's him get into Denver's hands. That would cause them problems for years to come.

Agreed, unless Denver makes a huge offer that SD can't match. I don't see it happening though.

SD will put a first year tender on him, and Shanny won't give that up for Turner especially to a division rival.

I could see not wanting to give SD a 1st rounder, but in return they'd also nab a player from their divisional rival. The big thing IMO would be the sizable contract plus the pick, as opposed to using that same pick on a rookie RB.

How is taking a division rivals backup RB really hurting them? It might if LT were to get injured, but if that happened their season is toast anyway. Giving them another first rounder to improve their starting lineup for their backup RB is not a smart thing to do considering they are division rivals. I guarantee you shanny will not give SD a first for turner.I wouldn't be suprised to see Denver move up in the first and take Lynch.

 

[rascal]

How the tide has turned. I remember in the 2nd preseason game Mike Bell fumbled. Commentary at the time was that Mike is a known fumbler and would never regain the job from the sure-handed speed merchant Tatum. The tale of the tape at the end of season - Tatum five fumbles lost and Mike zero.

Yeap.Shanny will not tolerate fumbles, and that is my primary reason why I don't think Tatum will start next year.

 

[Z-Dog]

Take Tikis place in NY and share time with Jacobs.Tatum can`t handle a full load..he has weak toes.

Tatum would be a great fit in NY, only question is whether he would be interested in going there, or if he tries to win a full-time starting gig.

 

[zamboni]

While Tatum is on the outside looking in, I think the jury could still be out on Mike Bell. While only the coaching staff knows for sure, it could be that Shanahan wasn't ready to turn the running game over to an unproven rookie.FA and the draft will assuredly shed some light on both guys, in any event.

I didn't see all the Bronco games but whenever I saw Bell run I thought he was ok but didn't bring anything special to the table. Doesn't have Tatum's explosiveness, doesn't have Mike Anderson pounding ability, kind of a tweener. He seems like he does most things "good" but IMO he's not someone that you'd really want to build your team around.

Probably true, although I'm not sure if any of the FAs out there would bring anything more, and it's not the Broncos m.o. to draft one early. We've mentioned Michael Turner many, many times before as a possibility, although he probably stays in SD.

I don't think there's any way SD let's him get into Denver's hands. That would cause them problems for years to come.

Agreed, unless Denver makes a huge offer that SD can't match. I don't see it happening though.

SD will put a first year tender on him, and Shanny won't give that up for Turner especially to a division rival.

I could see not wanting to give SD a 1st rounder, but in return they'd also nab a player from their divisional rival. The big thing IMO would be the sizable contract plus the pick, as opposed to using that same pick on a rookie RB.

How is taking a division rivals backup RB really hurting them? It might if LT were to get injured, but if that happened their season is toast anyway. Giving them another first rounder to improve their starting lineup for their backup RB is not a smart thing to do considering they are division rivals. I guarantee you shanny will not give SD a first for turner.I wouldn't be suprised to see Denver move up in the first and take Lynch.

I don't disagree. In fact, I'm in the camp that thinks Turner stays in SD, although I see the Jets and perhaps the Ravens as dark horses for his services. But that's for the next Turner thread.

 

[Nucular George]

Who here knows the status of the "pick switch" they can do with Washington? From the Lelie deal, I have been reading that they can switch picks if the picks are a certain distance apart. Not sure on the details though. Washington has the #6, so a switch up to that pick could make it possible to get Peterson. Seems to me that Cleveland is the only team with a true RB need in the top 6-7 teams. Houston at 8 would be my other pick for Peterson. We may no think he can fall all the way to 6-8 in the draft, but if Cleveland passes and picks Calvin Johnson for example, then it will take someone trading up to get him ahead of #6. And there are some very good players in positions of need or marquee positions that might help Peterson drop further than we might normally think. Still all speculation on the mock draft. But not impossible.

 

[rascal]

Who here knows the status of the "pick switch" they can do with Washington? From the Lelie deal, I have been reading that they can switch picks if the picks are a certain distance apart. Not sure on the details though. Washington has the #6, so a switch up to that pick could make it possible to get Peterson. Seems to me that Cleveland is the only team with a true RB need in the top 6-7 teams. Houston at 8 would be my other pick for Peterson. We may no think he can fall all the way to 6-8 in the draft, but if Cleveland passes and picks Calvin Johnson for example, then it will take someone trading up to get him ahead of #6. And there are some very good players in positions of need or marquee positions that might help Peterson drop further than we might normally think. Still all speculation on the mock draft. But not impossible.

They get Washington's third round pick for 2007 for sure. Don't know about their fourth rounder in 2008 though.

 

[King of the Jungle]

What about Chrissy Brown in Denver? He is a good one-cut runner.

 

[Banger]

What about Chrissy Brown in Denver? He is a good one-cut runner.

trade one turf toe for another. Crazier things have happened.

 

[rascal]

Please say no to Chrissy Brown.

So what are the chances that Lynch will fall to Denver at #21?

 

[G-Money]

Welcome back to the NFL Mr. Ricky Williams......................

 

[VaCatFan]

Houston to reunite with Kubiak? The NYJ could be in the market for an upgrade from Barlow/Houston. Cleveland could use a better RB.

This is just a . I mean really, who wants to play in Houston?

 

[Raider Nation]

So.... who's gonna say it???

:checks watch:

 

[Yah_Shoor_Yoobetchya]

What about Chrissy Brown in Denver? He is a good one-cut runner.

trade one turf toe for another. Crazier things have happened.

I dunno....ex-Colorado Buffalo......UFA......starting experience.....fresh legs.....Crystal Brown might make more sense than it appears on the surface.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

what does this say about mike bell? will he be the starter next year, or will denver draft/sign another back. How about nash/cobbs? I for one think tatum is soft, fumbles at cruical times in the games. Mbell has been punching in those tds, its gonna be a long offseason for denver rbs, and for us owners who spent picks on these guys.

Andre Hall

 

[delusional]

Philadelphia.

I believe Buckhalter is a UFA after this season.

 

[Streetduck]

Can Onterrio Smith return this year?

 

[Gordon Keith]

Is there a chance this is just a ploy?

 

[cr8f]

Can Onterrio Smith return this year?

He was eligible in October but I never heard whether he applied.

 

[Lord Lucan]

Reports I heard suggest Shanahan wants to trade his first-round pick for a veteran, preferably someone who was on a roll at the end of this season. He's heard there was a guy in Houston who averaged over 100 yards rushing and scored 5 TDs in his last four games.

 

[Da Guru]

What about Chrissy Brown in Denver? He is a good one-cut runner.

With Browns upright running style the altitude in Denver may affect him more than the Bells.