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TCF MNF game up in air(b/c no heating coils/safety) (1 Viewer)
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im not making it out to be bad. the players who are actually gonna play on the field who actually went thru a walk through on that field and who were told to shut up about the conditions were making it out to be bad.
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THE SNOWMAN
Footballguy
Kluwe needs to grow a pair.
two_dollars
Footballguy
Looking forward to the game!
snogger
Footballguy
I like Kluwe but... "Catastrophic event"
I really can't believe the field at TCF is any worse than what use to be on the Metrodome field. I remember walking on the "old turf" at the dome once and wondering how anyone survived a fall on it.. THAT was concrete with a rug over it..Here's to hoping the heaters working all day and night do enough to soften the field. 
Hell, LET IT SNOW!!!Clear the yard lines, but leave the rest.. There's your cushion! 
I agree that Kluwe is rather soft, but he is great dude though.The snow will not start till after lunch time, so it's not a all day event and from what I understand the 1st few inches will fall on top of the heated tarp and will not even see the field. Plus temps are going to rise all day to mid upper 20's. Sounds like perfect Minnesota outdoor foot ball to me.PS reading the forcast I say 3-6 inches of snow for TCF only place the will see close to 8 inches is NW part of the city. (North and west of 494/94 split)I like Kluwe but... "Catastrophic event"I really can't believe the field at TCF is any worse than what use to be on the Metrodome field. I remember walking on the "old turf" at the dome once and wondering how anyone survived a fall on it.. THAT was concrete with a rug over it..Here's to hoping the heaters working all day and night do enough to soften the field.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
so question, how long has heatin coil technology been in use in stadiums? Seems to me that players in the 50s 60s n 70s fell on ground just as hard.
snogger
Footballguy
I would think Bears fans would LOVE this is being played outdoors in the snow and cold where a bunch of the current Viking players hate to play. 
Again, I really have a hard time believing the field will be any worse then what used to be used in the Metrodome before they replaced it with the "new" Turf.
Again, I really have a hard time believing the field will be any worse then what used to be used in the Metrodome before they replaced it with the "new" Turf.
Superbowl Shuffle
Footballguy
Current weather update?
East Metro so far about 1/2 inch of snow. My guess is the amount at TCF is about a INCH on top of the heated tarp. TCF is sitting on the edge of predicted 3-6 or 4-8 line. If dealt with this all your life you know that means total 4-5 inches at TCF with 3 inches of it falling on top of the tarp and cleared. Temps are still raising in to the mid 20's.At rate of inch of snow every 4 hours this nothing more than nascence snow fall.The snow might pick up to 1/2 inch hour, but again strom is nothing but nascence adding 2 hours to rush hour drive time.PS - My windshield after 2 hours snow has just of coating on it.
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DoubleG
Footballguy
at all the Vikings homers who were trying to make it sound like it was just the Bears fans and players who were suggesting that the field might not be acceptable. And to the genius who posted that if no one gets hurt, all the people pointing out the perpective reason why this is a bad idea will be quiet - no kidding! Just because poor field conditions might greatly increase the chance of a turf-related injury doesn't mean it's a forgone conclusion. But you are correct in saying if it does happen, people will be raising heck. Why? Because now players from both teams, as well as other people from both orginizations have expressed serious and legitimate concerns about the conditions of the playing surface. No one hopes anyone will get hurt...which is what many were/are calling for the NFL to move the game in the first place.And please stop posting this "real men used to play worse conditions" nonsense - many of those "real men" have either died early or are crippled and can barely walk - some talk, due to injuries sustained playing football. And some of those guys had to play through and with injuries to support their families, as the NFL didn't pay then what it does now. That's like saying "why did the surgeon general have to go all soft and start posting warnings on cigarettes?" - just silly.
geoff8695
Footballguy
Excellent posting!I am not an alarmist and had assumed the Vikings knew what they were doing and that they would be able to easily thaw out this field. Hower, once several Vikings players started tweeting after walking out on the field, that playing on this surface may be the equivalent of playing in the parking lot at Mall of America, then you know this isn't just a case of some wimpy visiting team's players not 'manning up'.
And please stop posting this "real men used to play worse conditions" nonsense - many of those "real men" have either died early or are crippled and can barely walk - some talk, due to injuries sustained playing football. And some of those guys had to play through and with injuries to support their families, as the NFL didn't pay then what it does now. That's like saying "why did the surgeon general have to go all soft and start posting warnings on cigarettes?" - just silly.
Great point about ending the nonsense of the 'good ole days' when real men beat each others brains in and sacrificed their minds and bodies so the masses could be entertained for an afternoon. Today's professional athletes are much bigger and faster so this really becomes a simple matter of physics...
It's a fact that today's NFL athlete brings higher speed/velocity in combination with greater mass to the point of impact (and to the playing surface!) than those poor bastards who played 40 years ago and no longer enjoy normal levels of physical and/or mental faculties as a direct result. What today's athletes can do to each other given the same lack of protection is something I hope we don't get to find out tonight. I wonder how people would feel if Percy Harvin, Sidney Rice, or Adrian Peterson were to suffer a career ending injury because of playing on this surface?
Not to mention that Cutler could get frost bite on his ovaries and lose his ability to bear children.Excellent posting!I am not an alarmist and had assumed the Vikings knew what they were doing and that they would be able to easily thaw out this field. Hower, once several Vikings players started tweeting after walking out on the field, that playing on this surface may be the equivalent of playing in the parking lot at Mall of America, then you know this isn't just a case of some wimpy visiting team's players not 'manning up'.
And please stop posting this "real men used to play worse conditions" nonsense - many of those "real men" have either died early or are crippled and can barely walk - some talk, due to injuries sustained playing football. And some of those guys had to play through and with injuries to support their families, as the NFL didn't pay then what it does now. That's like saying "why did the surgeon general have to go all soft and start posting warnings on cigarettes?" - just silly.
Great point about ending the nonsense of the 'good ole days' when real men beat each others brains in and sacrificed their minds and bodies so the masses could be entertained for an afternoon. Today's professional athletes are much bigger and faster so this really becomes a simple matter of physics...
It's a fact that today's NFL athlete brings higher speed/velocity in combination with greater mass to the point of impact (and to the playing surface!) than those poor bastards who played 40 years ago and no longer enjoy normal levels of physical and/or mental faculties as a direct result. What today's athletes can do to each other given the same lack of protection is something I hope we don't get to find out tonight. I wonder how people would feel if Percy Harvin, Sidney Rice, or Adrian Peterson were to suffer a career ending injury because of playing on this surface?
geoff8695
Footballguy
OK, that was actually pretty funny... Hate to admit it, but I
when I first read your post. Good thing I had just put my drink down!
snogger
Footballguy
Quick question for both of you..Do you think the field conditions at TCF will be any worse than what the Metrodome turf used to be like?Excellent posting!I am not an alarmist and had assumed the Vikings knew what they were doing and that they would be able to easily thaw out this field. Hower, once several Vikings players started tweeting after walking out on the field, that playing on this surface may be the equivalent of playing in the parking lot at Mall of America, then you know this isn't just a case of some wimpy visiting team's players not 'manning up'.
And please stop posting this "real men used to play worse conditions" nonsense - many of those "real men" have either died early or are crippled and can barely walk - some talk, due to injuries sustained playing football. And some of those guys had to play through and with injuries to support their families, as the NFL didn't pay then what it does now. That's like saying "why did the surgeon general have to go all soft and start posting warnings on cigarettes?" - just silly.
Great point about ending the nonsense of the 'good ole days' when real men beat each others brains in and sacrificed their minds and bodies so the masses could be entertained for an afternoon. Today's professional athletes are much bigger and faster so this really becomes a simple matter of physics...
It's a fact that today's NFL athlete brings higher speed/velocity in combination with greater mass to the point of impact (and to the playing surface!) than those poor bastards who played 40 years ago and no longer enjoy normal levels of physical and/or mental faculties as a direct result. What today's athletes can do to each other given the same lack of protection is something I hope we don't get to find out tonight. I wonder how people would feel if Percy Harvin, Sidney Rice, or Adrian Peterson were to suffer a career ending injury because of playing on this surface?
Hint.. it was a VERY thin layer of cushion, with carpet over concrete.. I walked on that old turf and that was concrete.. and that was just changed a couple years ago.
No way is this going to be any worse than that.. period, end of story...
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GOroute
Footballguy
most important question--- will field conditions and weather allow for any sort of passing game? if it snows before, big deal as they can clear it. Wind and snow accumulation during the game are the 2 weather issues. hardness of the turf wont be a major factor. just that the players will be more sore tomorrow.
This is field turf, not grass...
me too...28.1 actually.
snogger
Footballguy
CaptainHook
Footballguy
Thank u for this post.
RUSF18
Footballguy
Can you tell us again if you were cool enough to actually walk on the Metrodome turf? And while you're at it, had any of the Vikings players who are complaining ever walked on the old turf?Quick question for both of you..Do you think the field conditions at TCF will be any worse than what the Metrodome turf used to be like?Excellent posting!I am not an alarmist and had assumed the Vikings knew what they were doing and that they would be able to easily thaw out this field. Hower, once several Vikings players started tweeting after walking out on the field, that playing on this surface may be the equivalent of playing in the parking lot at Mall of America, then you know this isn't just a case of some wimpy visiting team's players not 'manning up'.at all the Vikings homers who were trying to make it sound like it was just the Bears fans and players who were suggesting that the field might not be acceptable. And to the genius who posted that if no one gets hurt, all the people pointing out the perpective reason why this is a bad idea will be quiet - no kidding! Just because poor field conditions might greatly increase the chance of a turf-related injury doesn't mean it's a forgone conclusion. But you are correct in saying if it does happen, people will be raising heck. Why? Because now players from both teams, as well as other people from both orginizations have expressed serious and legitimate concerns about the conditions of the playing surface. No one hopes anyone will get hurt...which is what many were/are calling for the NFL to move the game in the first place.
And please stop posting this "real men used to play worse conditions" nonsense - many of those "real men" have either died early or are crippled and can barely walk - some talk, due to injuries sustained playing football. And some of those guys had to play through and with injuries to support their families, as the NFL didn't pay then what it does now. That's like saying "why did the surgeon general have to go all soft and start posting warnings on cigarettes?" - just silly.
Great point about ending the nonsense of the 'good ole days' when real men beat each others brains in and sacrificed their minds and bodies so the masses could be entertained for an afternoon. Today's professional athletes are much bigger and faster so this really becomes a simple matter of physics...
It's a fact that today's NFL athlete brings higher speed/velocity in combination with greater mass to the point of impact (and to the playing surface!) than those poor bastards who played 40 years ago and no longer enjoy normal levels of physical and/or mental faculties as a direct result. What today's athletes can do to each other given the same lack of protection is something I hope we don't get to find out tonight. I wonder how people would feel if Percy Harvin, Sidney Rice, or Adrian Peterson were to suffer a career ending injury because of playing on this surface?
Hint.. it was a VERY thin layer of cushion, with carpet over concrete.. I walked on that old turf and that was concrete.. and that was just changed a couple years ago.
No way is this going to be any worse than that.. period, end of story...
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
well I need 135 pts from Knox (point per Yard, 60 per td, 3 per catch) weird scoring but with this weather not sure if Bennett is the play or Olsen? Bonus for length and just hope Knox breaks one in bad sleding.
50ydfieldgoal
Footballguy
Most of the snow has fallen. Just some light snow for the game. Won't be all that bad
CalBear
Footballguy
Well, possibly two, but one was clearly caused by a knee and not the field.The game wasn't close, which made it not very interesting, but it looked like the fans were having fun, throwing snow in the air whenever the Vikings did something good.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
How many young children were trampled by the angry drunk mob when the doors opened?CalBear said:
DoubleG
Footballguy
Thankfully none. The top bowl wasn't even full. Only one of the QBs was knocked out of the game due to the turf. Not too bad. Bears clinch the division and sweep the Queens...Packers next (unless it doesn't matter, then the Bears will just get their backups some work).
