Tell me I am crazy and LaMont Jordan (1 Viewer)

[Looking4Answers]

I had LaMont last year and he helped win me the champoinship, but after I did a few mocks I kept trying to find ways not to take him.

Maybe its the new coaching staff, maybe its because its the Raiders but I just have a feeling that he will not finish near the top 10. Am I crazy on this one?

 

[Chris Smith]

Jordan is one of many running backs in a very large tier. However there is lots to like in regards to Jordan...

1) Passing game should be improved this year which will keep defenses back on their heels

2) Offensive line could be improved from a year ago

3) Jordan showcased a nice blend of attributes last year.

The only possible negative I have in regards to Jordan this year is a possible decline in receptions this year if Randy Moss can stay healthy. However with the problems of Jerry Porter right now, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jordan catch just as many passes in 2006.

If Jordan is sitting there at 8th overall, you certainly have to consider him this season as he is worthy of a first round pick.

 

[Sabertooth]

Jordan is a consideration for me at 6. To be honest, I think Tiki comes back to the mean a bit and I have Lamont right with Ronnie Brown.

 

[cowpie]

I really like jordan.

he was # 8 last year in only 14 games had tiki/westbrook like WR # with 500 yards

had he had 2 more games he could have been a top 5.

heck, portis was the number 4 rb (per fbgs scoring) with 244 pts.

jordan was #8 with 225 not one game did he get less that 12 pts, so had 24 pts (assuming the worst, ) for the last 2 games, and he passes portis for the number 4 spot in rb rankins last year.

and has a lot of room for upside at TDs. its not like he had 15 or 25 TD that carried his year.

he had like 9 rushing tds. i could easliy see that going up.

Unless you are worried about injury, i have him as a top 5 or 6 this year.

1. johnson

2. tomlison

3. Alexander(not big on him after last years monster year, new contract and loss in the superbowl, loss of hutchenson) but you still gotta take him in the top 3.

4. portis

5. L jordan

6. S jackson(at least for now

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Jordan is one of many running backs in a very large tier. However there is lots to like in regards to Jordan...

1) Passing game should be improved this year which will keep defenses back on their heels

2) Offensive line could be improved from a year ago

3) Jordan showcased a nice blend of attributes last year.

The only possible negative I have in regards to Jordan this year is a possible decline in receptions this year if Randy Moss can stay healthy. However with the problems of Jerry Porter right now, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jordan catch just as many passes in 2006.

If Jordan is sitting there at 8th overall, you certainly have to consider him this season as he is worthy of a first round pick.

Jordan at #8 makes a lot of sense.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

This is a subtle point, but Jordan's added benefit:

Early bye (3) has him playing at a strength later for you.

SJax (8), RBrown (8), Edge (9) and Westy (9) are all going to be off later in the year when fewer teams are competing.

If you are going to get RB/WR/WR in the next 3 picks, decide who are your likely candidates. Odds are that the RB you'd be targeting will NOT be off Week 3 as well - LJ and LT2 will be long gone, leaving only JJones in Dallas.

Weeks 8 and 9 have more candidates on the table in Rounds 2-4:



Week 8 open date: Buffalo, Detroit, Miami, Washington

Week 9 open date: Arizona, Carolina, N.Y. Jets, Philadelphia

So if you're looking at McGahee or KJones in Round 2, you're taking appreciable added risk if you take SJax or RBrown in that both your RB1 AND RB2 are out that week.

The same logic can be applied to Westy / Edge and targeting Foster / DAWilliams / CMartin later on as well.

Wide receivers are of course another story, but I'd also not want my WR1 to share a week with my RB1 if at all possible.

Week 8 / 9 puts SSmith (9), Chambers (8), Boldin (9), Holt (8) and Fitz (9) as conflicts. That's 5 of the Top 5-10 WRs with an issue.

Week 3 with LamJ has just Randy Moss in Oak and TO as a conflict in Dallas for a Top 10 WR.

Gates would be an issue with Week 3, but I'd deal with that to have the #1 TE overall.

NOTE: This matters a lot more in Survivor Leagues, but there is some crossover to regular redrafts.

Secondly, his December schedule is quite favorable.

Hope that helps. I'm obviously biased towards LamJ this year, but this reasoning above has me taking LamJ every Round 1 I've been in (outside a Top 3-4 pick) for Survivor this year.

 

[MLBrandow]

Last year was the year to hate on LJo, this year, you take him at 8 and be happy.

There's nothing but plusses going into this year. He won't do much better than 8th, but he sure won't do much worse. 8 is a good spot.

He finished 9 or 10 last year didn't he? And that was his adjustment year.

 

[Blackjacks]

Last year was the year to hate on LJo, this year, you take him at 8 and be happy.

There's nothing but plusses going into this year. He won't do much better than 8th, but he sure won't do much worse. 8 is a good spot.

He finished 9 or 10 last year didn't he? And that was his adjustment year.

Last year he also had Norv Turner at the helm who has managed to get 1,000 yard rsher everywhere he goes plus Cocktail Kerry was throwing dump offs right and left due to him getting blitzed and not being able to get out of the pocket. This year Brooks will have the ability of scrabbling alittle more and get the ball downfield. Stay away from LAMONT this year. Don't take him in the top 10!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Jerk]

Jordan is a consideration for me at 6. To be honest, I think Tiki comes back to the mean a bit and I have Lamont right with Ronnie Brown.

I think you can make a good argument for every RB from this list to be as high as #6:S.Jackson

R.Johnson

R.Brown

L.Jordan

Some people -- like Sabertooth -- will argue one or more of this group higher than Tiki. Others will drop one or more of these players behind Edge, Cadillac or Westbrook.

At most, projections in this 6-9 grouping will differ by about 1 ppg, and the 6-12 grouping will vary by no more than 2 ppg. So a lot depends on your preferences as to how the RBs after #5 are ordered.

Bottom line is that it's perfectly reasonable to project Jordan as a potential #8 pick.

 

[Reagan]

I had LaMont last year and he helped win me the champoinship, but after I did a few mocks I kept trying to find ways not to take him.

Maybe its the new coaching staff, maybe its because its the Raiders but I just have a feeling that he will not finish near the top 10. Am I crazy on this one?

PPR league? If so, then I'd think he'd be a very solid pick at 8. Sort of hard to differentiate between Jordan, James, Caddy, SJax anyway. If not a PPR league, maybe he drops a touch.

 

[zamboni]

Last year he also had Norv Turner at the helm who has managed to get 1,000 yard rsher everywhere he goes

I don't think Turner really benefited Jordan last year, as Turner definitely seemed to abandon the running game at times, even in close games. There may be other reasons to be concerned about Jordan, but I don't see the absence of Norv being one of them.

 

[Traders2001]

I would never take S Jackson before Jordan, Jackson has nt proven he can stay healthy 1 full season , and has nt been productive when healthy .

 

[Bankerguy]

Really depends on your league scoring. In my league I have him ranked 6th.

 

[Looking4Answers]

To answer the qustions regarding my leagues scoring....

It is not a ppr league, 10 yards= 1point and 6 points for TDS with yardage bonuses. You also get more points if a RB catches a TD or a WR rushes in for a TDect.

 

[The Jerk]

To answer the qustions regarding my leagues scoring....

It is not a ppr league, 10 yards= 1point and 6 points for TDS with yardage bonuses. You also get more points if a RB catches a TD or a WR rushes in for a TDect.

The old Miller format, eh?Distance TD bonuses enhance WRs a little bit in my book. This scoring system could make Steve Smith, Chad Johnson and Terrell Owens factors in the first round, even as high as the 8th pick you are discussing.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

I had LaMont last year and he helped win me the champoinship, but after I did a few mocks I kept trying to find ways not to take him.

Maybe its the new coaching staff, maybe its because its the Raiders but I just have a feeling that he will not finish near the top 10. Am I crazy on this one?

PPR league? If so, then I'd think he'd be a very solid pick at 8. Sort of hard to differentiate between Jordan, James, Caddy, SJax anyway. If not a PPR league, maybe he drops a touch.

Yep. In a PPR league, you could make an argument for 6, non-PPR, 8 is probably about right...definitely top 10 regardless.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

If Jordan keeps his receptions from last year, he's basically in tier 2 which is comprised of Tomlinson and no one else right now.

 

[Tau837]

Here is something I found interesting. Look at Jordan's splits based on field position:

Own G -- Own 49: 167 carries, 59 targets

Midfield -- Opp 21: 63 carries, 29 targets

Opp 20 -- Opp 6: 26 carries, 13 targets

Opp 5 - Opp G: 16 carries, 2 targets

167 carries on the Raiders' side of the field, but only 105 on the opposing side. Look at carries splits for other top 10 RBs from last season:

1. Alexander - 179, 122, 42, 27

2. LJ - 171, 100, 41, 24

3. LT - 168, 117, 34, 21

4. Tiki - 200, 104, 44, 10

5. Edge - 162, 120, 53, 25

6. Portis - 226, 74, 35, 16

7. Rudi - 153, 117, 51, 16

9. Thomas Jones - 180, 94, 28, 12

10. Mike Anderson - 104, 79, 32, 25

Only Portis and Thomas Jones had dropoffs comparable to Jordan's after crossing midfield.

I'm guessing that in Chicago's case, their offense was so poor they just ran a particularly low number of plays across midfield, but I don't know where to find this data. If true, Jones's usage probably didn't drop off too much if at all.

This is possibly true for the Redskins as well. Also, it seems like the Redskins completed a number of deep passes last year, which could have reduced that number...? Pure speculation. Still, it seems that Portis may not have been used as heavily across midfield.

Regardless, the patterns for Chicago and Washington could continue. Both offenses could improve, but the same coaches, and thus offensive philosophy, are in place.

But for Jordan, Shell takes over. Does this mean he will not be as likely to abandon the run once across midfield? Also, if the quality of the offense as a whole was a problem, it should improve, given the addition of Brooks, return of Curry, and hopefully a healthy Moss.

I can see more carries and fewer targets but at least the same number of touches per game. I definitely think he is a top 8 draft pick. I don't think he has a shot at being a top 3 RB, but I could see a bit of upside there for him to get as high as RB4 or RB5.

 

[Looking4Answers]

Thanks for the opinions. Sometimes you just need to hear another point of view.

 

[BigRed]

I would never take S Jackson before Jordan, Jackson has nt proven he can stay healthy 1 full season , and has nt been productive when healthy .

er not to sideline too much, but last year was his first full year of really being the "the man" at RB, so he's had one real season of "proof." Not exactly a large sampling. Yeah he got nicked up a bit here and there, but still put up about 1000/8 and 300/2 receiving in 15 games - and about half of them he put up over 100 total yds. Not dazzling, but "not productive" is far from true. He showed real promise. And oh btw playing for Mr Passhappy didn't help.Re. Jordan, I like his chances this year too. He did well last year with an unreliable offense. But I like Jackson's upside.