Ten best players on your team (1 Viewer)

[Donnybrook]

1. Aaron Kampman

2. Nick Barnett

3. Mark Tauscher

4. Charles Woodson

5. Greg Jennings

6. Donald Driver

7. A.J Hawk

8. Donald Lee

9. Ryan Pickett

10. Ryan Grant

This guy leads the league in muggings. He should be on this list.

 

[-OZ-]

Tennessee Titans:1. Haynesworth, Albert DT 2. Bulluck, Keith OLB 3. Young, Vince QB 4. Vanden Bosch, Kyle DE 5. Roos, Michael T 6. Mawae, Kevin C 7. Thornton, David OLB 8. Finnegan, Cortland CB 9. Scott, Jake T 10t. Griffin, Michael FS 10t. Harper, Nick CB The order is tough after Haynesworth and Bulluck. Some will argue with VY as #3, but he's there IMO. Notice, 7 on D, 3 on the OL, and the only O-skill player is VY. Crumpler could make this list, I think Johnson will soon too.

Interesting. If you look at it like "whose absence would affect the game the most" I think the list might look more like...1. HAynesworth2. Roos3. KVB4. Young5. Bulluck6. Finnegan7. Griffin8. Mawae9. Harper10. Stewart

Good post, I might have Roos too low. Surprised to see you have Bulluck that low, do you think he's lost a step, or just not as valuable to the team as he appears?

 

[jurb26]

Steelers 1. Hines Ward - toughest WR ever2. Ben Roethlisberger - this is his team now and he should only get better3. Aaron Smith - run defense was non-existent without him4. Troy Polamalu - a bit inconsistent but a force to be reckoned with5. Willie Parker - perpetually underrated6. Casey Hampton - he is one of the top nosetackles in the league7. Marvel Smith - he is a great player when he's healthy8. James Harrison - a beast who wore down in his first full season9. Santonio Holmes - only getting better and he's got speed to burn10. Lamar Woodley - this year should be the coming out party

Another Steeler fan with a rather different POV:1. Hampton - This guy is a top 3 DT when healthy and simply dominant at times.2. Roethlisberger - There is no other young QB I would want leading my team.3. A. Smith - I agree, the run D just isn't the same w/o him.4. Harrison - Guy played amazing last year.5. Holmes - He is the best WR on the team and best big play option. Yes better than Ward and Parker.6. Polamalu - I still think he is undisciplined at times and doesn't make his reads, but is a top 10 S in the NFL.7. Farrioir - Guy knows where to be and is just solid all around.8. H. Miller - One of the most underrated TEs in the NFL.9. Ward - The most overrated player on the Steelers roster but still one of their top 10 players.10. M. Smith - When he is healthy and on his game he is great. That just doesn't happen near enough.

 

[JMon348]

Vikings:1. Steve Hutchinson - The Shaun Alexander "fall" isn't a big coincidence.2. Kevin Williams - Unblockable3. Adrian Peterson - Unbelievable talent4. Jared Allen - Should be a great addition to the team.5. Pat Williams - Great football player, but I am worried a bit about when age catches up to him.6. EJ Henderson - Highly underrated player who just produces.7. Bernard Berrian - I like his talent and ability to get open (hopefully Tarvaris can get it to him consistently).8. Chester Taylor - Still a very good player, but in quite a shadow.9. Antoine Winfield - Great for the cover two because he tackles well, but downfiled coverage isn't the best.10. Chris Kluwe - I know, I know - a punter? But his ability to put the ball inside the twenty is great and with the defense they have, can't be overlooked.

1. Adrian Peterson,RB- might have broke some records if not for the injury, MVP potential2. Steve Hutchinson,LG- started out slow, but was terrific late3. Kevin Williams,DT- When he's conditioned and healthy, hes unblockable4. Jared Allen,DE- So excited to see him play with KWill and.......5. Pat Williams,DT- Best NT in the league, plays his role to perfection6. EJ Henderson,MLB- Came on strong last year, benefits from great tackles7. Antoine Winfield,CB- Unreal nose for the ball8. Bryant McKinnie,LT- Talented, but has too many lapses9. Chad Greenway,OLB- Slowed down late, should be very good in his 2nd full year10. Sidney Rice,WR- Should have got the ball more last year, will have a good year beside Berrian11. Matt Birk,C12. Benard Berrian,WR13. Darren Sharper,S14. Madeiu Williams,S15. Ben Leber,OLB16. Cedric Griffin,CB17. Chester Taylor,RB18. Ray Edwards,DE19. Anthony Herrera,RG20. Marcus Mcauley,CB

 

[jurb26]

Vikings:

1. Steve Hutchinson - The Shaun Alexander "fall" isn't a big coincidence.

2. Kevin Williams - Unblockable

3. Adrian Peterson - Unbelievable talent

4. Jared Allen - Should be a great addition to the team.

5. Pat Williams - Great football player, but I am worried a bit about when age catches up to him.

6. EJ Henderson - Highly underrated player who just produces.

7. Bernard Berrian - I like his talent and ability to get open (hopefully Tarvaris can get it to him consistently).

8. Chester Taylor - Still a very good player, but in quite a shadow.

9. Antoine Winfield - Great for the cover two because he tackles well, but downfiled coverage isn't the best.

10. Chris Kluwe - I know, I know - a punter? But his ability to put the ball inside the twenty is great and with the defense they have, can't be overlooked.

1. Adrian Peterson,RB- might have broke some records if not for the injury, MVP potential2. Steve Hutchinson,LG- started out slow, but was terrific late

3. Kevin Williams,DT- When he's conditioned and healthy, hes unblockable

4. Jared Allen,DE- So excited to see him play with KWill and.......

5. Pat Williams,DT- Best NT in the league, plays his role to perfection

6. EJ Henderson,MLB- Came on strong last year, benefits from great tackles

7. Antoine Winfield,CB- Unreal nose for the ball

8. Bryant McKinnie,LT- Talented, but has too many lapses

9. Chad Greenway,OLB- Slowed down late, should be very good in his 2nd full year

10. Sidney Rice,WR- Should have got the ball more last year, will have a good year beside Berrian

I don't think Williams is the best DT in the league, but if you do what in the world is he doing 5th on the list? If he were the best in the NFL by all rights he should be #1 or at worst #2.

 

[boubucarow]

Chicago Bears1) Brian Urlacher - 'Nuff said.2) Olin Kreutz - Leader of the offense, a tough and mean SOB, and one of the top centers in the game. His play did slip a little last year, but I expect him to rebound in 08.3) Devin Hester - The best KR/PR in the league, and could very shortly be the best of all time (if he isn't already).4) Lance Briggs - All he does is make tackles. A perfect compliment to Urlacher.5) Tommie Harris - One of the better DTs in the league, and he's only 24. Hopefully he won't continue to have hamstring issues...6) Robbie Gould - The most accurate kicker in Bear's history, and makes FGs in the clutch. When your offense has trouble moving the ball, having a kicker that can get something out of stalled drives is key.7) Charles Tillman - A very good Cover-2 CB. Has 332 tackles and 17 INTs in the last five seasons.8) Nathan Vasher - The team's other good CB. Doesn't make as many tackles as Tillman, but has 17 INTs in four seasons.9) Alex Brown - A well-rounded DE, does a lot of things well, but isn't great at anything. 30 sacks, 13 FF, and 6 FR in five seasons.10) Desmond Clark - Just like Brown, he's a player that does a lot of things well, but isn't great at anything. Has brought stability and production to the TE position that was a relative black hole for the team for years.

1. Tommie Harris - if he stays healthy the defense will be great, he is the most important player on the team2. Brian Urlacher - almost as important as Harris due to his great coverage in mid of the field passes, his blitzes, and his sideline to sideline tackles3. Devin Hester - imagine if the Bears have a good offense that forces you not kick out of bounds, then Devin would be the team MVP4. Lance Briggs - could be #1 if he made big plays5. Olin Kruetz - he did slip but still right now the best offensive player and a top leader6. Charles Tillman - one of the best cover 2 corners but does mess up sometimes on deep passes7. Nathan Vasher - more consistent than Tillman but less big plays in the running game8. Robbie Gould - hate a kicker this high but kicking at Soldier Field is one of the hardest and he is the best in history9. Mike Brown - yeah, he will probably miss most of the season but if he plays and stays healthy, he is #5 at worst10. Adewale Ogunleye - #10 is a toss up among a few but Ogunleye has the most big moments among those left

 

[Enforcer]

Seattle. Interesting that so many defenders came to mind first on a team that's been known for offense the last few years. But with Jackson, SA, Brown(stain), Hutchinson and Stevens gone and Strong and Tobeck retired (Gray is half retired this year) only Matt and Engram are left, though both have elevated their game with the departures.1. Walter Jones- Has slowed in age a bit but that only makes him top 3 in the league instead of #1.2. Lofa Tatupu- Doubt the DUI is indicative of any pending breakdown. Super smart, fastidious prepper, and physical player. The defensive general and damn good at it.3. Matt Hasselbeck- Still prone to game management breakdowns but improves yearly.4. Julian Peterson- Physical phreak. Tatupu's smarter though.5. Marcus Trufant- Improving yearly, especially now with two low key but highly effective safeties behind him. 6. Bobby Engram- Last year's numbers were a fluke that might repeat this year with the WR situation in a mess. But he's been Matt's favorite target for years and has extremely dependable hands, plus he just gets open. Matt can throw to him blindfolded and his play is visibly worse when Engram is not dressed for the game.7. Patrick Kerney- Ran out of steam last year and got most of his sacks in just 3 or 4 games. Adding L Jackson should keep him rested for the whole season.8. LeRoy Hill- A very sneaky, underrated LB because he plays with Peterson and Tatupu. He could be the best LB on a third of the other teams He's in Lofa's draft class and has started since game 1 his rookie season. He's had some injuries but is absolutely solid though unknown. 9. Jordan Babineaux- Big Play Babs has had some killer big plays throughout the seasons, including chasing down Romo after the flub. He's a very good extra DB and ST guy and just always comes up big for the Hawks.10. Sean Locklear- Not spectacular but a solid RT who's played since his rookie year. Suffered from lack of a good RG last year and will never be mistaken for Walter, but he's a great RT.Honorable mentions: Burleson (too inconsistent), Tubbs (never healthy), the safeties (never heard "Seattle safety got beat for a long TD" last year), Rocky Bernard (probably Bernard deserves 10), Jennings (just a solid CB), and Daryl Tapp (youngster faded with injury but should make the top ten next year)

This is a good list. I can't complain about any of those. However, I would bump Bernard. I have a hard time "ranking" all the guys from 2 though 8. I would probably do tiers. TIER 1: JonesTIER 2: Tatupu, Hasselbeck, Peterson, Trufant, Engram, KerneyTIER 3: Bernard, Hill, LocklearI would like to put Branch in this list, but he just hasn't done it as a Seahawk yet.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Eagles Fan

I dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.

1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed

2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)

3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's

4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does

5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT

6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players

7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense

8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point

9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy

... can I put TO at 10?

10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

 

[Jason Wood]

Eagles Fan

I dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.

1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed

2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)

3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's

4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does

5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT

6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players

7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense

8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point

9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy

... can I put TO at 10?

10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

To be fair, JAA readily admits to never being a McNabb fan; and sadly he's not alone in Philly. Let's not forget that more than 60% of fans polled by WIP a few years ago said they would trade McNabb for the rights to Matt Leinart (this was with Leinart coming into the April draft). McNabb may not be the best player on the Eagles, but he's one of the best unquestionably.But I really don't understand the absence of Shawn Andrews. He's a 1st team All Pro guard and is easily the most oft-mentioned player cited by other teams as our best guy.

 

[radiohead417]

The Jaguars are a team that isn't very conducive to this type of list, just because their roster is based a lot of depth and not so much on stars.

1. David Garrard - Emerged last year as the team's best player - this team will go as far as he carries them.

2. John Henderson - Had an off year last season, but was better than Stroud really was, while he was making Pro Bowls.

3. Rashean Mathis - A top five corner and extremely physical.

4. Maurice Jones-Drew - Keeps Fred Taylor fresh and effective, great pass-catcher and lightning quick. Does it all.

5. Fred Taylor - 10,000 career yards, perhaps this is more a career award than his current effectiveness. Still, a Pro Bowler last season, deservedly so at that.

6. Brad Meester - Quietly, the key to the offensive line. They struggled mightily last season while he was out, and come together when he returned. I'll give him the credit.

7. Derrick Harvey - When you give up what the Jaguars did for a draft pick, he's pretty important. Pass rush was the missing link for the Jaguars last season, and Harvey will be the guy for them.

8. Mike Peterson - 2008 will likely be the last year in a Jax uniform for Mike Pete, but he's still one of the best in the game, purely from a *this year* standpoint. A playmaker, a leader.

9. Vince Manuwai - A mauling guard who has come into his own the last two seasons.

10. Tony Pashos - Solidified the offensive line after a shaky start. Looks like a free agency bargain now.

11-15, no specific order:

Rob Meier - Mr. Everything on the defensive line, he's finally have a starting spot after being a glue type of guy in the rotation.

Jerry Porter - Big contract for a guy, he better be pretty great. Seems like a boom or bust situation to me.

Reggie Nelson - Not sold on this guy yet. Seems like a playmaker, but gave up some ugly plays too.

Reggie Williams - 10 TDs, but still super questionable. He's in a contract year, so he could have a big, big year.

Marcedes Lewis - Started to come into his own last season, a big part of the passing game.

53. Matt Jones

 

[chook]

The Jaguars are a team that isn't very conducive to this type of list, just because their roster is based a lot of depth and not so much on stars.

1. David Garrard - Emerged last year as the team's best player - this team will go as far as he carries them.

2. John Henderson - Had an off year last season, but was better than Stroud really was, while he was making Pro Bowls.

3. Rashean Mathis - A top five corner and extremely physical.

4. Maurice Jones-Drew - Keeps Fred Taylor fresh and effective, great pass-catcher and lightning quick. Does it all.

5. Fred Taylor - 10,000 career yards, perhaps this is more a career award than his current effectiveness. Still, a Pro Bowler last season, deservedly so at that.

6. Brad Meester - Quietly, the key to the offensive line. They struggled mightily last season while he was out, and come together when he returned. I'll give him the credit.

7. Derrick Harvey - When you give up what the Jaguars did for a draft pick, he's pretty important. Pass rush was the missing link for the Jaguars last season, and Harvey will be the guy for them.

8. Mike Peterson - 2008 will likely be the last year in a Jax uniform for Mike Pete, but he's still one of the best in the game, purely from a *this year* standpoint. A playmaker, a leader.

9. Vince Manuwai - A mauling guard who has come into his own the last two seasons.

10. Tony Pashos - Solidified the offensive line after a shaky start. Looks like a free agency bargain now.

11-15, no specific order:

Rob Meier - Mr. Everything on the defensive line, he's finally have a starting spot after being a glue type of guy in the rotation.

Jerry Porter - Big contract for a guy, he better be pretty great. Seems like a boom or bust situation to me.

Reggie Nelson - Not sold on this guy yet. Seems like a playmaker, but gave up some ugly plays too.

Reggie Williams - 10 TDs, but still super questionable. He's in a contract year, so he could have a big, big year.

Marcedes Lewis - Started to come into his own last season, a big part of the passing game.

53. Matt Jones

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Carolina Panthers

1. Steve Smith

2. Julius Peppers

3. Jordan Gross

4. Jon Beason

5. Jonathan Stewart

6. Jeff Otah

7. Jake Delhomme

8. Richard Marshall

9. Chris Harris

10. DeAngelo Williams

Could've made a case for Ken Lucas, Landon Johnson, John Kasay, Dan Connor, Chris Gamble, Jeff King or DJ Hackett making the list.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Vikings:

1. Steve Hutchinson - The Shaun Alexander "fall" isn't a big coincidence.

2. Kevin Williams - Unblockable

3. Adrian Peterson - Unbelievable talent

4. Jared Allen - Should be a great addition to the team.

5. Pat Williams - Great football player, but I am worried a bit about when age catches up to him.

6. EJ Henderson - Highly underrated player who just produces.

7. Bernard Berrian - I like his talent and ability to get open (hopefully Tarvaris can get it to him consistently).

8. Chester Taylor - Still a very good player, but in quite a shadow.

9. Antoine Winfield - Great for the cover two because he tackles well, but downfiled coverage isn't the best.

10. Chris Kluwe - I know, I know - a punter? But his ability to put the ball inside the twenty is great and with the defense they have, can't be overlooked.

1. Adrian Peterson,RB- might have broke some records if not for the injury, MVP potential2. Steve Hutchinson,LG- started out slow, but was terrific late

3. Kevin Williams,DT- When he's conditioned and healthy, hes unblockable

4. Jared Allen,DE- So excited to see him play with KWill and.......

5. Pat Williams,DT- Best NT in the league, plays his role to perfection

6. EJ Henderson,MLB- Came on strong last year, benefits from great tackles

7. Antoine Winfield,CB- Unreal nose for the ball

8. Bryant McKinnie,LT- Talented, but has too many lapses

9. Chad Greenway,OLB- Slowed down late, should be very good in his 2nd full year

10. Sidney Rice,WR- Should have got the ball more last year, will have a good year beside Berrian

I don't think Williams is the best DT in the league, but if you do what in the world is he doing 5th on the list? If he were the best in the NFL by all rights he should be #1 or at worst #2.

I think you could make the following 4 arguments (with pretty good validity):1. Hutchinson is the best guard in the NFL.

2. Kevin Williams is the best DT in the NFL.

3. Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the NFL.

4. Jared Allen is the best DE in the NFL.

I'm not saying this is what I think, but points could easily be made for all four of them - and all are at positions of more importance (opinion) than nose tackle.

 

[Jason Wood]

Vikings:

1. Steve Hutchinson - The Shaun Alexander "fall" isn't a big coincidence.

2. Kevin Williams - Unblockable

3. Adrian Peterson - Unbelievable talent

4. Jared Allen - Should be a great addition to the team.

5. Pat Williams - Great football player, but I am worried a bit about when age catches up to him.

6. EJ Henderson - Highly underrated player who just produces.

7. Bernard Berrian - I like his talent and ability to get open (hopefully Tarvaris can get it to him consistently).

8. Chester Taylor - Still a very good player, but in quite a shadow.

9. Antoine Winfield - Great for the cover two because he tackles well, but downfiled coverage isn't the best.

10. Chris Kluwe - I know, I know - a punter? But his ability to put the ball inside the twenty is great and with the defense they have, can't be overlooked.

1. Adrian Peterson,RB- might have broke some records if not for the injury, MVP potential2. Steve Hutchinson,LG- started out slow, but was terrific late

3. Kevin Williams,DT- When he's conditioned and healthy, hes unblockable

4. Jared Allen,DE- So excited to see him play with KWill and.......

5. Pat Williams,DT- Best NT in the league, plays his role to perfection

6. EJ Henderson,MLB- Came on strong last year, benefits from great tackles

7. Antoine Winfield,CB- Unreal nose for the ball

8. Bryant McKinnie,LT- Talented, but has too many lapses

9. Chad Greenway,OLB- Slowed down late, should be very good in his 2nd full year

10. Sidney Rice,WR- Should have got the ball more last year, will have a good year beside Berrian

I don't think Williams is the best DT in the league, but if you do what in the world is he doing 5th on the list? If he were the best in the NFL by all rights he should be #1 or at worst #2.

I think you could make the following 4 arguments (with pretty good validity):1. Hutchinson is the best guard in the NFL.

2. Kevin Williams is the best DT in the NFL.

3. Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the NFL.

4. Jared Allen is the best DE in the NFL.

I'm not saying this is what I think, but points could easily be made for all four of them - and all are at positions of more importance (opinion) than nose tackle.

At the very least, each is one of the top 3 at their position. It's good to be a Vikings fan these days, jeesh.

 

[JAA]

Eagles FanI dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy... can I put TO at 10?10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

There's no way you can leave Shawn Andrews off the list. He's easily top 3 on the Eagles. Every time they play an out of conference game the AFC coach says he's the best guard they face all year.

Im not as much of a SA guy as everyone else. The same guy we drafted as a LT, who started at RT and now is playing guard? I guess Im a bit bitter. Would also love to see his injury history non-existant. H could come on the list at 9, but I guess Im too bitter.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Eagles FanI dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy... can I put TO at 10?10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

There's no way you can leave Shawn Andrews off the list. He's easily top 3 on the Eagles. Every time they play an out of conference game the AFC coach says he's the best guard they face all year.

Im not as much of a SA guy as everyone else. The same guy we drafted as a LT, who started at RT and now is playing guard? I guess Im a bit bitter. Would also love to see his injury history non-existant. H could come on the list at 9, but I guess Im too bitter.

So you downgrade McNabb because you say whoever we put in at QB does well (Mike McMahon would disagree) yet you have Kevin Curtis in there even though we went to NFC Championship games with the likes of James Thrash, Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell and Charles Johnson. Last year with Curtis was the Eagles worst offensive year for production since the Mike McMahon led Eagles of 2005.Then you downgrade Shawn Andrews because of injury history and have a guy like LJ Smith in there. Quite frankly, Andrews could be the LT or RT for the Eagles because I believe he's better than Thomas and Runyan, but the overall strength of line is better by keeping him at G because I don't believe that either of those two would be as effective at G.

 

[dgreen]

Washington Redskins:1) Chris Samuels - Speaks for itself2) Clinton Portis - Speaks for itself3) London Fletcher - Very underrated player, should easily have made a few pro bowls, but due to his size goes unnoticed. Turned our D around.4) Chris Cooley - One of the top 5 TE's in the league. Great at YAC and finding soft spots in zone coverage.5) Laron Landry - Could be the best player on our team after this year.6) Shawn Springs - When healthy is still a shutdown corner (unless we are playing Seattle).7) Andre Carter - After converting back to DE from OLB (in San Fran) has added a much needed pass rush.8) Fred Smoot - Came on very strong this year for us and is a phenomenal #2 in our system9) Santana Moss - I don't really know where to put Santana, but I do feel he is one of our best players...even if it's not in FF.10) Anthony Montgomery - Young, large DT that is really starting to perform.11) Randy Thomas - one of the best pulling guards in the league, unfortunately has been injured as of late.RIP #21, you were clearly our best.

My expectation is Landry will be #1 in 2008, just ahead of Portis.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Washington Redskins:1) Chris Samuels - Speaks for itself2) Clinton Portis - Speaks for itself3) London Fletcher - Very underrated player, should easily have made a few pro bowls, but due to his size goes unnoticed. Turned our D around.4) Chris Cooley - One of the top 5 TE's in the league. Great at YAC and finding soft spots in zone coverage.5) Laron Landry - Could be the best player on our team after this year.6) Shawn Springs - When healthy is still a shutdown corner (unless we are playing Seattle).7) Andre Carter - After converting back to DE from OLB (in San Fran) has added a much needed pass rush.8) Fred Smoot - Came on very strong this year for us and is a phenomenal #2 in our system9) Santana Moss - I don't really know where to put Santana, but I do feel he is one of our best players...even if it's not in FF.10) Anthony Montgomery - Young, large DT that is really starting to perform.11) Randy Thomas - one of the best pulling guards in the league, unfortunately has been injured as of late.RIP #21, you were clearly our best.

My expectation is Landry will be #1 in 2008, just ahead of Portis.

WOW, I say Marcus Washington hits that list before Montgomery. One could argue that Thomas as more impact than Smoot in games, but Smoot can get the edge for personality alone.1) Chris Samuels 2) Clinton Portis3) Chris Cooley4) Laron Landry5) Santana Moss6) London Fletcher7) Andre Carter8) Shawn Springs9) Randy Thomas/Fred Smoot10/11) Marcus WashingtonOh and agree 100% that Sean Taylor would have been #1 on that list, no doubt!!!

 

[JMon348]

Vikings:

1. Steve Hutchinson - The Shaun Alexander "fall" isn't a big coincidence.

2. Kevin Williams - Unblockable

3. Adrian Peterson - Unbelievable talent

4. Jared Allen - Should be a great addition to the team.

5. Pat Williams - Great football player, but I am worried a bit about when age catches up to him.

6. EJ Henderson - Highly underrated player who just produces.

7. Bernard Berrian - I like his talent and ability to get open (hopefully Tarvaris can get it to him consistently).

8. Chester Taylor - Still a very good player, but in quite a shadow.

9. Antoine Winfield - Great for the cover two because he tackles well, but downfiled coverage isn't the best.

10. Chris Kluwe - I know, I know - a punter? But his ability to put the ball inside the twenty is great and with the defense they have, can't be overlooked.

1. Adrian Peterson,RB- might have broke some records if not for the injury, MVP potential2. Steve Hutchinson,LG- started out slow, but was terrific late

3. Kevin Williams,DT- When he's conditioned and healthy, hes unblockable

4. Jared Allen,DE- So excited to see him play with KWill and.......

5. Pat Williams,DT- Best NT in the league, plays his role to perfection

6. EJ Henderson,MLB- Came on strong last year, benefits from great tackles

7. Antoine Winfield,CB- Unreal nose for the ball

8. Bryant McKinnie,LT- Talented, but has too many lapses

9. Chad Greenway,OLB- Slowed down late, should be very good in his 2nd full year

10. Sidney Rice,WR- Should have got the ball more last year, will have a good year beside Berrian

I don't think Williams is the best DT in the league, but if you do what in the world is he doing 5th on the list? If he were the best in the NFL by all rights he should be #1 or at worst #2.

NTI think Pat is the best nose tackle in the league. He is the best run stuffer in the NFL and commands a double team freeing Kevin, EJ, and now Jared Allen. His job is to take up room and as many blockers as possible. He's also great at anticipating snaps and is surprisingly agile and quick for his size.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

My take on the Jaguars:

1. Rashean Mathis- Ultra-athletic. Should rebound to pro bowl form after being banged-up last year.

2. John Henderson- Although time might be starting to catch up with big John, he's still a force. He's another one who had a subpar year last year. He admitted to personal problems. Lets hope those problems have been taken care of.

3. Maurice Jones-Drew- Biggest short guy in the league.

4. David Garrard- I'd move him up if he produces anything near last year's stats.

5. Vince Manuwai- Underrated guard that doesn't get the notice he deserves.

6. Daryl Smith- Quiet, steady performer. He's a smooth looking player

7. Justin Durant- Their future stud LB.

8. Brad Meester- It's no coincidence that the running game kicked into gear last year once he returned.

9. Reggie Nelson- Is catching alot of flack for breakdown's in coverage last year and some missed tackles, but his ability showed itself often as well. I expect a big improvement in his overall play next year.

10. Fred Taylor- It is difficult for me to place Fred this low and I would place Freddy T at the top if this was an all-time ranking or was asked this question a couple of years ago. As of last year, he still had it. I wonder how long this can last.

11. Greg Jones- Will do what ever is asked of him. Great fullback and an even better team player.

12. Marcedes Lewis- His blocking has improved greatly. This is the year that he's suppoed to break out. If the Jags can stretch the field on a regular basis, then Marcedes should blow up.

13. Khalif Barnes- Solid tackle, but lacks maturity. Not well liked by the fans, but the talent is there.

13. Mike Peterson- Injuries the last few years keep him this low.

14. Reggie Williams- Has shown vast improvement, especially in the red zone. His ability to block is a major reason for those long TD runs.

15. Tony Pashos- Great run blocker. Started a little slow last year, but improved as the year went on.

 

[Jason Wood]

Eagles FanI dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy... can I put TO at 10?10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

There's no way you can leave Shawn Andrews off the list. He's easily top 3 on the Eagles. Every time they play an out of conference game the AFC coach says he's the best guard they face all year.

Im not as much of a SA guy as everyone else. The same guy we drafted as a LT, who started at RT and now is playing guard? I guess Im a bit bitter. Would also love to see his injury history non-existant. H could come on the list at 9, but I guess Im too bitter.

JAA...Andrews was NEVER drafted as a LT, he was always a RT and drafted as Jon Runyan's eventual replacement. And the team said from day one it would play him at guard until Runyan was out of the picture. Not sure why you would hold it against the guy that he came in and immediately panned out as one of the most punishing OGs in the game. He's a beast; and actually made Andy look smart for moving up to grab him.

 

[Wu-banger]

Eagles FanI dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy... can I put TO at 10?10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

There's no way you can leave Shawn Andrews off the list. He's easily top 3 on the Eagles. Every time they play an out of conference game the AFC coach says he's the best guard they face all year.

funny thing also...precious few non-Eagles fans would leave McNabb off this list entirely. that's sad.

leaving Andrews and McNabb off the list destroys it's credibilty.... also too many people dont have Tra Thomas listed.

 

[Jason Wood]

Eagles FanI dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy... can I put TO at 10?10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

There's no way you can leave Shawn Andrews off the list. He's easily top 3 on the Eagles. Every time they play an out of conference game the AFC coach says he's the best guard they face all year.

funny thing also...precious few non-Eagles fans would leave McNabb off this list entirely. that's sad.

leaving Andrews and McNabb off the list destroys it's credibilty.... also too many people dont have Tra Thomas listed.

I don't have Tra listed and don't think he should be. The Eagles gave up 49 sacks last year; and Tra was a huge part of that. He's still serviceable but his days of being one of the league's better LTs are long gone I'm afraid.

 

[pmcdade]

The Prime-Time Browns for this year. 10-6 at a minimum even with the tough schedule.

1. Thomas LT - Franchise type LT - his not Pace or Ogden, but he's not that far off.

2. Edwards WR - One of the best in the league today.

3. Winslow - TE - Injuries are a big concern but he may have the best hands of any TE in the league and is still atheletic enough to get open on any LB in the game.

4. Josh Cribbs PR/KR - At least the 2nd best return man in the league, and one of our top special-teams tacklers. Game changer. Was actually better than Hester on kickoff returns last year.

5. Wimbley - OLB - Hide and watch this year. He finally has some support and can't be consistantly double-teamed.

6. Anderson - QB - He's helped by the system and those around him but any Pro-Bowl QB has to make the top 10 list.

7. Wright - CB - Not Kenny, Eric. A steal in last year's draft, he may be the best CB of that crop. Over the next couple of years he'll be talked about with the word "Shut-Down" as a descriptor.

8. Corey Williams - The new D-Line will make the entire defense better. He was underrated in GB and will shine in CLE.

9. Lewis - RB - He got his speed and power back with needed ankle surgery, he's only got a couple years left in him but can make a difference in a game. That TD run against the Jets was a thing to behold.

10. Rogers - NT/DE - He's slimmed down a bit and when he's focused, he's one of the best in the league. If he brings the nasty and gets the schemed down it could be a pro-bowl year for him.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Vikings:

1. Steve Hutchinson - The Shaun Alexander "fall" isn't a big coincidence.

2. Kevin Williams - Unblockable

3. Adrian Peterson - Unbelievable talent

4. Jared Allen - Should be a great addition to the team.

5. Pat Williams - Great football player, but I am worried a bit about when age catches up to him.

6. EJ Henderson - Highly underrated player who just produces.

7. Bernard Berrian - I like his talent and ability to get open (hopefully Tarvaris can get it to him consistently).

8. Chester Taylor - Still a very good player, but in quite a shadow.

9. Antoine Winfield - Great for the cover two because he tackles well, but downfiled coverage isn't the best.

10. Chris Kluwe - I know, I know - a punter? But his ability to put the ball inside the twenty is great and with the defense they have, can't be overlooked.

1. Adrian Peterson,RB- might have broke some records if not for the injury, MVP potential2. Steve Hutchinson,LG- started out slow, but was terrific late

3. Kevin Williams,DT- When he's conditioned and healthy, hes unblockable

4. Jared Allen,DE- So excited to see him play with KWill and.......

5. Pat Williams,DT- Best NT in the league, plays his role to perfection

6. EJ Henderson,MLB- Came on strong last year, benefits from great tackles

7. Antoine Winfield,CB- Unreal nose for the ball

8. Bryant McKinnie,LT- Talented, but has too many lapses

9. Chad Greenway,OLB- Slowed down late, should be very good in his 2nd full year

10. Sidney Rice,WR- Should have got the ball more last year, will have a good year beside Berrian

I don't think Williams is the best DT in the league, but if you do what in the world is he doing 5th on the list? If he were the best in the NFL by all rights he should be #1 or at worst #2.

I think you could make the following 4 arguments (with pretty good validity):1. Hutchinson is the best guard in the NFL.

2. Kevin Williams is the best DT in the NFL.

3. Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the NFL.

4. Jared Allen is the best DE in the NFL.

I'm not saying this is what I think, but points could easily be made for all four of them - and all are at positions of more importance (opinion) than nose tackle.

At the very least, each is one of the top 3 at their position. It's good to be a Vikings fan these days, jeesh.

As soon as we make it back into the playoffs I'll agree with you. It's definitely exciting to be a Vikings fan, though, they HAVE to follow through with the talent they have on the roster, or it will be very disappointing. It is frustrating that so much talent hinges on the success of Tarvares Jackson's ability to keep the game moving. I would rather have the team outperform lower expectations than fail to achieve high expectations, and with the amount of talent on this team right now it is difficult to not have high expectations.I think Jmon's list looks pretty good.

 

[Meast21]

Washington Redskins:

1) Chris Samuels - Speaks for itself

2) Clinton Portis - Speaks for itself

3) London Fletcher - Very underrated player, should easily have made a few pro bowls, but due to his size goes unnoticed. Turned our D around.

4) Chris Cooley - One of the top 5 TE's in the league. Great at YAC and finding soft spots in zone coverage.

5) Laron Landry - Could be the best player on our team after this year.

6) Shawn Springs - When healthy is still a shutdown corner (unless we are playing Seattle).

7) Andre Carter - After converting back to DE from OLB (in San Fran) has added a much needed pass rush.

8) Fred Smoot - Came on very strong this year for us and is a phenomenal #2 in our system

9) Santana Moss - I don't really know where to put Santana, but I do feel he is one of our best players...even if it's not in FF.

10) Anthony Montgomery - Young, large DT that is really starting to perform.

11) Randy Thomas - one of the best pulling guards in the league, unfortunately has been injured as of late.

RIP #21, you were clearly our best.

My expectation is Landry will be #1 in 2008, just ahead of Portis.

WOW, I say Marcus Washington hits that list before Montgomery. One could argue that Thomas as more impact than Smoot in games, but Smoot can get the edge for personality alone.1) Chris Samuels

2) Clinton Portis

3) Chris Cooley

4) Laron Landry

5) Santana Moss

6) London Fletcher

7) Andre Carter

8) Shawn Springs

9) Randy Thomas/Fred Smoot

10/11) Marcus Washington

Oh and agree 100% that Sean Taylor would have been #1 on that list, no doubt!!!

I do love Marcus Washington, have an autographed jersey of his, but he has really slowed down this past year. Unfortunately I don't think he will be with the team after this season, unless he restructures his contract.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

The Prime-Time Browns for this year. 10-6 at a minimum even with the tough schedule. 1. Thomas LT - Franchise type LT - his not Pace or Ogden, but he's not that far off.2. Edwards WR - One of the best in the league today. 3. Winslow - TE - Injuries are a big concern but he may have the best hands of any TE in the league and is still atheletic enough to get open on any LB in the game.4. Josh Cribbs PR/KR - At least the 2nd best return man in the league, and one of our top special-teams tacklers. Game changer. Was actually better than Hester on kickoff returns last year.5. Wimbley - OLB - Hide and watch this year. He finally has some support and can't be consistantly double-teamed.6. Anderson - QB - He's helped by the system and those around him but any Pro-Bowl QB has to make the top 10 list.7. Wright - CB - Not Kenny, Eric. A steal in last year's draft, he may be the best CB of that crop. Over the next couple of years he'll be talked about with the word "Shut-Down" as a descriptor.8. Corey Williams - The new D-Line will make the entire defense better. He was underrated in GB and will shine in CLE.9. Lewis - RB - He got his speed and power back with needed ankle surgery, he's only got a couple years left in him but can make a difference in a game. That TD run against the Jets was a thing to behold.10. Rogers - NT/DE - He's slimmed down a bit and when he's focused, he's one of the best in the league. If he brings the nasty and gets the schemed down it could be a pro-bowl year for him.

nice to see another brownnie point of view finally. I didn't include the newbies. They gotta prove to me there value before I would rank them as an actual Brown! Lewis not nearly enough Love for what he did for us last year. Anderson too much love. It was players around him made him look good IMO. Other then that we were close. R.Smith, and Steinbach I had trouble leaveing off and the rest of that o-line we should have listed as honorble mention at worst. Looks like Bently is finally ready to help. 9-7 SHOULD take division. And yes we will be prime-time this year. All the way to the SUPER BOWL!

 

[JAA]

Eagles FanI dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy... can I put TO at 10?10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

There's no way you can leave Shawn Andrews off the list. He's easily top 3 on the Eagles. Every time they play an out of conference game the AFC coach says he's the best guard they face all year.

Im not as much of a SA guy as everyone else. The same guy we drafted as a LT, who started at RT and now is playing guard? I guess Im a bit bitter. Would also love to see his injury history non-existant. H could come on the list at 9, but I guess Im too bitter.

So you downgrade McNabb because you say whoever we put in at QB does well (Mike McMahon would disagree) yet you have Kevin Curtis in there even though we went to NFC Championship games with the likes of James Thrash, Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell and Charles Johnson. Last year with Curtis was the Eagles worst offensive year for production since the Mike McMahon led Eagles of 2005.Then you downgrade Shawn Andrews because of injury history and have a guy like LJ Smith in there. Quite frankly, Andrews could be the LT or RT for the Eagles because I believe he's better than Thomas and Runyan, but the overall strength of line is better by keeping him at G because I don't believe that either of those two would be as effective at G.

I am not happy when my team trades up to draft a LT, passes over players like Steve Jackson, and selects a Guard. A Guard who has missed a season, games, etc. I am not taking anyway anything from SA's ability, but I dont believe he is one of the top10 most important players.Take a look at when LJ has posted healthy seasons. How did we fare? Compare that to healthy SA seasons? ... thanks

 

[JAA]

Eagles FanI dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy... can I put TO at 10?10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

There's no way you can leave Shawn Andrews off the list. He's easily top 3 on the Eagles. Every time they play an out of conference game the AFC coach says he's the best guard they face all year.

Im not as much of a SA guy as everyone else. The same guy we drafted as a LT, who started at RT and now is playing guard? I guess Im a bit bitter. Would also love to see his injury history non-existant. H could come on the list at 9, but I guess Im too bitter.

JAA...Andrews was NEVER drafted as a LT, he was always a RT and drafted as Jon Runyan's eventual replacement. And the team said from day one it would play him at guard until Runyan was out of the picture. Not sure why you would hold it against the guy that he came in and immediately panned out as one of the most punishing OGs in the game. He's a beast; and actually made Andy look smart for moving up to grab him.

I remember from his profile he was slated to move to LT. He had surgery upon arriving at Philly to clear his sinuses. He then dropped a bunch of weight and started at RT IIRC. Id have to pull out my 04 draft guides to completely recall.

 

[Stewy]

Texans:

1. Andre Johnson WR

2. DeMeco Ryans MLB

3. Dunta Robinson CB

4. Mario Williams DE

5. Eric Winston RT

6. Owen Daniels TE

7. Fred Bennett CB

8. Will Demps S

9. Amobi Okoye DT

10. Matt Scaub QB

 

[trollmonger]

CowboysInteresting to see Bankerguy's and LarryAllen's slightly different perspective on this. I have a 3rd although it's closer to Larry's.1. Ware 2. Romo3. Witten4. Davis5. Owens6. Newman7. Barber8. Adams9. Gurode10. Hamlin

I like your list better then Larry Allen's as Brady James is an average player. Ware is the most important player in the franchise. My comment of T.O. being the most "valuable" is that if this team lost 1 player.....the one that would have the greatest effect would be T.O. Just my .02. I am surprised neither of you addressed the PacMan topic? Are you assuming he is not re-instated?

I understand and agree to a point about Owens. But Romo might even be a bigger loss. If we had to go with BJ as our QB, I think the season's over. And I'm still not a fan of TO. He's a Cowboy so I cheer for him and I like the TO of the last two seasons a lot more than the one of the previous five but I still think he has the potential to destroy a team and had to include that component in my assessment of him.I have to admit, I don't really think about Pacman as a Cowboy yet. I know he's Cowboy property now and I know he's a good player but he's not reinstated and even once he is, I wouldn't be surprised if was temporary. I did consider him but didn't know where to rank him and ultimately chose to leave him off the list.

 

[SSOG]

At the very least, each is one of the top 3 at their position. It's good to be a Vikings fan these days, jeesh.

Why, did they cut Tarvares Jackson?

 

[westbrook36]

1. Brian Westbrook - Top 3 RB in the NFL

2. Shawn Andrews - Not many guards better

3. Asante Samuel - New guy, but he's an INT machine

4. Trent Cole - Developing into a sack master

5. Donovan McNabb - Had a few rough years, but if healthy is one of the best

6. Lito Sheppard - Needs to stay healthy, but Lito shuts big time WRs down

7. Brodrick Bunkley - Was key to making the Eagles good against the run

8. LJ Smith - Not a premier TE, but he is good

9. Mike Patterson - Very active DT who makes a ton of tackles

10. Sheldon Brown - Very solid CB who you rarely hear praise about

 

[Tyrion]

CowboysInteresting to see Bankerguy's and LarryAllen's slightly different perspective on this. I have a 3rd although it's closer to Larry's.1. Ware 2. Romo3. Witten4. Davis5. Owens6. Newman7. Barber8. Adams9. Gurode10. Hamlin

I like your list better then Larry Allen's as Brady James is an average player. Ware is the most important player in the franchise. My comment of T.O. being the most "valuable" is that if this team lost 1 player.....the one that would have the greatest effect would be T.O. Just my .02. I am surprised neither of you addressed the PacMan topic? Are you assuming he is not re-instated?

I understand and agree to a point about Owens. But Romo might even be a bigger loss. If we had to go with BJ as our QB, I think the season's over. And I'm still not a fan of TO. He's a Cowboy so I cheer for him and I like the TO of the last two seasons a lot more than the one of the previous five but I still think he has the potential to destroy a team and had to include that component in my assessment of him.I have to admit, I don't really think about Pacman as a Cowboy yet. I know he's Cowboy property now and I know he's a good player but he's not reinstated and even once he is, I wouldn't be surprised if was temporary. I did consider him but didn't know where to rank him and ultimately chose to leave him off the list.

1. Ware 2. Romo3. Witten4. Davis5. Owens6. Newman7. Barber8. Adams9. Greg Ellis- Can't see why this guy got left out. 12.5 sacks and 3FF last season. Our pass rush got a lot better when he came back to the lineup. I hope Spencer can bring some heat this year as well.10. McBriar- Really great punter.Marc Columbo is another guy who didn't get much respect but shut down his side of the ball last season. The only time he suffered at all was when he got injured and played through the pain. Even then he was solid. I can't put Gurode up there since I place a lot of our play-off loss on his shoulders. I have never seen a worse snapping performance. You could tell it took Romo and the rest of the offense out of their game. I hope Gurode worked on it this off season.

 

[Koya]

My take on the Giants:

1. Pierce

2. Osi

3. Burress

4. Eli

5. Diehl

6. Snee

7. Ohara

8. Ross

9. Toomer

10. Shockey

 

[D_House]

Here goes, don't think I'll get to 10 (not including FA additions or rookies):

1. Brian Moorman - probably the best in the league when you factor in the conditions at the Ralph

2. Lee Evans - given a quality QB, this guy would be $$

3. Jason Peters - needs to improve in his run blocking, but his pass blocking is near elite

4. Marshawn Lynch - yeah, he's only had one year, but just watch the guy run.

5. Aaron Schobel - had an off year last year. maybe it was scheme, but he seemed to overrun a lot of plays

6. Terrence McGee - for his contributions at CB and STs. Should probably be a #2 CB

7. Ummm....

Attempting this exercise for Buffalo makes me even more appreciative of the job **** Juaron did last year.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Eagles FanI dont get the McNabb love. Seems to me the Phi QB (McNabb, Garcia, Feeley, Detmer) is valuable, I dont see the DMac part, sorry. Dont get me wrong, DMac is an amazing talent, I love him and have his jersey. That said, we havnt lost steps when other QBs have replaced him.1. Brian Westbrook - nothing needed2. Jon Runyan - started all 16 games in all 8 years with Philly (and all 16 3 years with Oilers/Titans)3. Asante Samuel - ball hawking DBs required in JJ's blitzing scheme's4. Trent Cole - the little engine (even at 6'5) that does5. Mike Patterson - young quality stuffing DT6. Dawkins - more for his leadership role than physical skills ... not discounting pounding hits he puts on offensive players7. Kevin Curtis - Reids offense requires a Y to spread the defense8. Chris Gocong - More of a hunch than proven at this point9. LJ Smith - Moves way up if stays healthy... can I put TO at 10?10. Sheldon Brown - Needs to prove he can be a premier corner in the league

There's no way you can leave Shawn Andrews off the list. He's easily top 3 on the Eagles. Every time they play an out of conference game the AFC coach says he's the best guard they face all year.

Im not as much of a SA guy as everyone else. The same guy we drafted as a LT, who started at RT and now is playing guard? I guess Im a bit bitter. Would also love to see his injury history non-existant. H could come on the list at 9, but I guess Im too bitter.

So you downgrade McNabb because you say whoever we put in at QB does well (Mike McMahon would disagree) yet you have Kevin Curtis in there even though we went to NFC Championship games with the likes of James Thrash, Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell and Charles Johnson. Last year with Curtis was the Eagles worst offensive year for production since the Mike McMahon led Eagles of 2005.Then you downgrade Shawn Andrews because of injury history and have a guy like LJ Smith in there. Quite frankly, Andrews could be the LT or RT for the Eagles because I believe he's better than Thomas and Runyan, but the overall strength of line is better by keeping him at G because I don't believe that either of those two would be as effective at G.

I am not happy when my team trades up to draft a LT, passes over players like Steve Jackson, and selects a Guard. A Guard who has missed a season, games, etc. I am not taking anyway anything from SA's ability, but I dont believe he is one of the top10 most important players.Take a look at when LJ has posted healthy seasons. How did we fare? Compare that to healthy SA seasons? ... thanks

Why draft Jackson when you already have Westbrook? FYI, Westbrook since 2004 has 6768 total yards and 39 TDs. Jackson has 5835 and 36. Then to use examples of other RBs, LJ played 8 games last year and was injured, Alexander missed 6 games in 06 and 3 games last year. How many G's in the league are better then Andrews right now, Hutchinson, maybe.

 

[Workhorse]

My take on the Giants:1. Pierce2. Osi3. Burress4. Eli5. Diehl6. Snee7. Ohara8. Ross9. Toomer10. Shockey

Wow. No love for Justin Tuck?He should have been MVP of the Super Bowl IMO.

 

[1970's Oakland Raiders Secondary]

Let's redo the Raiders

1 - Nnamdi Asomugha CB

2 - Derrick Burgess DE

3 - Kirk Morrison ILB

4 - DeAngelo Hall CB

5 - Gibril Wilson SS

6 - Darren McFadden RB

7 - JaMarcus Russell QB

8 - Thomas Howard OLB

9 - Shane Lechler P

10 - Javon Walker WR

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11 - Stanford Routt CB

12 - Michael Huff FS

13 - Zach Miller TE

14 - Tommy Kelly DT

15 - Ronald Curry WR

16 - Justin Fargas RB

17 - Robert Gallery OG

18 - Justin Griffith FB

19 - Gerard Warren DT

20 - Michael Bush RB

 

[Wadsworth]

Jaguars:

1. John Henderson

2. Fred Taylor

3. MJD

4. Rashean Mathis

5. Vince Manuwai

6. David Garrard

7. Bred Meester

9. Mike Peterson

10. Daryl Smith

Could easily also include Tony Pashos and Justin Durant.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Jaguars:1. John Henderson2. Fred Taylor3. MJD4. Rashean Mathis5. Vince Manuwai6. David Garrard7. Bred Meester9. Mike Peterson10. Daryl SmithCould easily also include Tony Pashos and Justin Durant.

I disagree with #8.

 

[pjconley]

Here’s how I see the Bills (from a division rival’s perspective. As a Jets fan, I'm worried...)

1. Jason Peters, LT (pro bowl left tackle)

2. Brian Moorman, P (One of the best punters in the leauge.)

3. Lee Evans, WR (underrated WR who should have a very great year opposite the daddy killer James Hardy)

4. Marshawn Lynch, RB (Impressive rookie season, will only get better from here)

5. Donte Whitner, S (Safety living up to his first round grade)

6. Terrence McGee, CB (skilled multi faceted corner)

7. Aaron Schobel, DE (DE who had an off year in 07, but with healthy talent surronding him, should once again rack up double digit sack numbers).

8) Kawika Mitchell, LB (quick pass rushing LB)

9) Trent Edwards, QB (Young, smart, very talented QB)

10) Paul Pousluzney, LB (tackleing machine who I believe would have competed with Willis and Harris for that Defensive Rookie of the year title had he not broken his hand in the preseason.)

 

[chris1969]

The Browns

1. Steinbach LG - The guy just gets better every year

2. Thomas LT - Franchise LT, will probably be our best player next year.

3. Josh Cribbs - Second to Hester in returning, but also the best on our coverage teams.

4. Edwards WR - Athletically on par with Randy and TO, but he still needs better technique.

5. Winslow - TE - Playing on bad tires. He still made the Pro Bowl. He would be our best player now if it wasn't for a ENDO attempt.

6. Rogers DE/NT - The guy was built for this defense. I'd rank him higher if I could. I believe he's a consistent pro-bowler in a 3-4.

7. Williams DE - Again, built for the 3-4, but I'd settle for what he could do in the 4-3 last year.

8. Lewis RB - May have lost a step, but it doesn't matter when the holes are a mile wide.

9. Wimbley - OLB - Double-teamed a ton last year and didn't have a variety of moves. Look for him to move up this list big time this year, with the upgrades on d-line.

10. Anderson - QB - Yeah a Pro-Bowl QB that's 24 years old rounds out my top 10. He has a lot of upside, but I think Brady Quinn has more. My Aunt Beatrice could put up a decent numbers with all that talent on offense. Who ever plays QB will have a great season, but I think at some point DA will lose the job to Quinn.

 

[sfl49er]

Anybody rate their punter in the top ten? Thats sad...

...in the order of,

-PATRICK WILLIS

-FRANK GORE

-JUSTIN SMITH

-NATE CLEMENTS

-VERNON DAVIS

-ANDY LEE

-MANNY LAWSON

-ISAAC BRUCE

-JOE STALEY

and one of my favorite, hard working players- ARNAZ BATTLE.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I'll take a stab at the Lions here.

1. Roy Williams - Overrated airhead. I wanted to trade him. And yet, he's still our best player.

2. Ernie Sims - He hasn't had anymore concussions yet, so that's a good sign.

3. Calvin Johnson - Hopefully #1 by the end of 2008.

4. Jon Kitna - Best QB the Lions have had in my lifetime, which isn't saying much.

5. Jeff Backus - So overpaid, but he's at least halfway decent.

6. Cory Redding - Benefitted heavily from playing next to Shaun Rogers. Also overpaid.

7. Dewayne White - The bright side is that a lot of Marinelli's guys are making the list. Hope for the future?

8. Leigh Bodden - Haven't really seen him play, but he better be at least this good since he cost us Rogers.

9. Dominic Raiola - Supposedly getting a lot better. It would probably help him if we ever ran the ball.

10. Jason Hanson - At least we know we can always settle for three.

 

[PSULions]

Carolina Panthers

1. Steve Smith

2. Julius Peppers

3. Jordan Gross

4. Jon Beason

5. Jonathan Stewart

6. Jeff Otah

7. Jake Delhomme

8. Richard Marshall

9. Chris Harris

10. DeAngelo Williams

Could've made a case for Ken Lucas, Landon Johnson, John Kasay, Dan Connor, Chris Gamble, Jeff King or DJ Hackett making the list.

Good list, but I have a few things I would change a little.1. Steve Smith - the guy is just a beast and one of the top 3 WRs in the league when he has a good QB throwing him the ball.

2. Jon Beason - he is the face of our defense and simply makes plays, would have been the rookie DPOY if Willis didn't have the Huge year he did.

3. Jake Delhomme - he doesn't get the fanfare of many QBs, but the guy can play and is a great leader. The team went down the tubes last year when he was gone. All reports going into mini-camp are positive for his return this year.

4. Julius Peppers - the guy moves back up to #2 is he decides to play like he played in previous years. Was last year a one-time thing or is his passion for the game waning and will never return to stud status?? That is a big question for the Panthers D this year. He is playing for a contract this year!

5. Jordan Gross - he his a good NOT great LT / RT and playing for a contract, but not a Pro Bowl caliber OT in my book. Still a key piece of the new, bigger, stronger, OL.

6. Jonathon Stewart - I like the decision to grab him at #13 as he is actually the type of power RB that the Panthers have been missing since SD and his SB year in 2003. He has all the talent and speed you could ask for and he will get plenty of touches in our offense. He his lives up to his billing he will make opponents HAVE to pay attention to him and help free up SS to do what he does best! :tup:

7. Richard Marshall - our best and youngest CB and will be very important to help the D improve on its perfomance from last year.

8. Chris Harris - big hitter and sure tackler. He was a steal for the 5th rounder that we gave up for him.

9. Jeff Otah - huge kid and the Panthers are very high on him. He should help our OL to reinstitue the power running game that we have been lacking.

10. DeAngelo Williams - a nice change of pace RB to mix in with Stewart. The Panthers really want to run the ball to help control the clock and the ability to run both J Stew and DW to grind up yards and clock should help the Panthers get back into the playoffs.

11. Thomas Davis - OLB that is starting to emerge as a defensive leader and a playmaker.

12. DJ Hackett - an important FA signing this offseason as we have been lacking a solid #2 WR for 3 years (ever since Moose left) and the guy produces when he is healthly. Hopefully, he is ready to go and make a great impact this year.

13. Travelle Wharton - LG and massive guy. He was a decent LT last year, but the move inside should benefit him and improve the size of the OL.

14. Ken Lucas - when healthy is his a very good CB.

15. Charless Godfrey - the Panthers are very glad to get him in the 3rd round and got some good praise from both coaches and Steve Smith this past minicamp.

Question:There seems to be a lot of excitement about rookie safety Charles Godfrey from Iowa. What can you say to add credence to that?

Answer: He played with the first group to start with (at mini-camp), and I thought he handled it very well. He adapted well. It didn't look like it was too big for him. He fit in well. Our players liked him. Maybe one of the good (things) was Steve Smith said, "Man, that (number) 30 is pretty good." Smitty doesn't give out a lot of compliments.

 

[westbrook36]

I am not happy when my team trades up to draft a LT, passes over players like Steve Jackson, and selects a Guard. A Guard who has missed a season, games, etc. I am not taking anyway anything from SA's ability, but I dont believe he is one of the top10 most important players.

Take a look at when LJ has posted healthy seasons. How did we fare? Compare that to healthy SA seasons? ... thanks

Just a small list of why I don't agree with this.
The Eagles do not draft RBs in the first round
Without blocking a RB is useless
Shawn Andrews is an All Pro guard
The only guard I would take over SA is probably Steve Hutchinson
Remember how bad the Eagles offensive line was in the Super Bowl? If they had Shawn Andrews they win it
Ever hear of Brian Westbrook? He's pretty good

 

[Pat Patriot]

Giants:OsiManningBurressDiehlToomerPierceOharaSneeJacobsFeaglesThe order is probably off. I'm assuming Strahan is retired and maybe Tuck gets thrown in there somewhere.

Wow. Based on the way he played in the playoffs last year, Tuck has to be in there ahead of a punter. And I think Pierce is overrated and Toomer is too high at this stage of his career.

 

[Koya]

My take on the Giants:1. Pierce2. Osi3. Burress4. Eli5. Diehl6. Snee7. Ohara8. Ross9. Toomer10. Shockey

Wow. No love for Justin Tuck?He should have been MVP of the Super Bowl IMO.

Good point for Tuck. Put him over Toomer and Shockey gets knocked out until he shows me he can be a part of them as a teamate and a winner without any negatives.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Here is my take on the Patriots:

1. Tom Brady

2. Randy Moss

3. Adalius Thomas (was misused most of last year. was dominant in the SB)

4. Logan Mankins

5. Wes Welker (just great at what he does)

6. Ty Warren

7. Dan Koppen

8. Vince Wilfork

9. Richard Seymour (did not have a very good year. This is not a career achievement list.)

10. Mike Vrabel

Tough to leave off Matt Light, Laurence Maroney and Ben Watson.