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Terrarium TV (1 Viewer)

Kodi and IPTV are so simple and fast for me I don't think I need to get into a whole new thing, but I'll watch the YouTube video posted earlier when I get some time.

Right now my IPTV covers live TV, all sports subscriptions, and PPV. Covenant (and Amazon prime) covers everything else. 

 
culdeus said:
There's a lot more grey area out there than Game of Thrones and in-theater movies.
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I probably wasn't clear with my point, sorry.   I was saying that those areas I mentioned are very much not gray.  I know there are a ton of gray areas out there, you touched on them in your post just now.    All the following is just my opinion and not worth a drip of nutsweat, but ....

The baseball game is not something I'd be concerned with at all, as it could be yours on your TV right now.  

EuroSport and BBC content (that isn't available on BBC america) are just missed opportunities from the creators.   That's still infringement on your part but until they're going to make an effort to allow you to get this legally then I don't have much sympathy for them.    The ethical answer is that you have no claim to deserve content that they don't wish to share with you...but that's idealistic and borderline stupid.   BBC should have a solution for you.

I dont think I really understand what you're doing with a DNS unblocker.   Do you do that just to get regional showings that wouldnt be available if you played by the rules?   If so, file that with Eurosport and BBC.

 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
I dont think I really understand what you're doing with a DNS unblocker.   Do you do that just to get regional showings that wouldnt be available if you played by the rules?   If so, file that with Eurosport and BBC.
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A DNS unblocker allows a customer of MLB.TV to get around regional blackout restrictions that are made based on the user's IP address.  Basically, making it appear you are in mexico.  

It costs about 60 bucks a season of baseball or basketball. I'd gladly pay 150 to mlb.tv to just avoid that inconvenience.    Others just say #### it I'll just stream it.  I use the internet streams often, but feel like I'm in the spirit of things since i've paid in.  It's a grey area, I realize.  

 
Wingnut said:
Kodi and IPTV are so simple and fast for me I don't think I need to get into a whole new thing, but I'll watch the YouTube video posted earlier when I get some time.

Right now my IPTV covers live TV, all sports subscriptions, and PPV. Covenant (and Amazon prime) covers everything else. 
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I like kodi but this is far quicker and easier and just all around better. Takes 5-10 minutes to go through the process and well worth it. Blows Covenant or any of the others away. You don't have to go through an addon process. Just watched IT and it looked like a movie I had in the blu-ray player. Wasn't a cam.  

 
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I messed around with this a bit today.  Def good stuff but it was crashing on me when I was trying to play a file quite a bit.   That was on a fire stick, put it on a FireTV as well but didn't mess with it much. 

 
flapgreen said:
I like kodi but this is far quicker and easier and just all around better. Takes 5-10 minutes to go through the process and well worth it. Blows Covenant or any of the others away. You don't have to go through an addon process. Just watched IT and it looked like a movie I had in the blu-ray player. Wasn't a cam.  
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With Asian subs?

 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
That's arguable, and as far as I know it's never been fully hashed out, which is what @culdeus was alluding to earlier, (I think, anyway). 

The "I'm just streaming it" side just says you're watching it live, and since the file lives in an ephemeral state on your device and you never really "have" it, other than when you're watching it stream via your browser. 

But you have to have the file on your computer to play it.   The fact that by default you aren't downloading it to a permanent state may or may not be a legal distinction.   You are at least temporarily in possession of it, you have to be to have it play locally for you.   The argument could certainly be made that even this transient possession is enough for infringement.  

Now, I know the real tasty meat for the MPAA and TV Studio lawjerks is going after those people serving streams and those people sharing scene leaks.  And I know this discussion gets even muddier if you are talking about content that is regularly broadcast OTA.   But for the purposes of

  • movies that are currently in theater or only on DVD or pay to stream
  • PPV sporting events
  •  Pay-for-access original programming (Game of Thrones, etc)
and any other content that isn't normally part of NBC's Tuesday night broadcast ####fest lineup -- and you know and I know that this is a large portion of the Kodi, etc body of work -- I find the "I just looked at it but I never really had it" argument pretty disingenuous.  That's not to say I'm here to cast judgement -- I'm as guilty as anyone on this front.   I just don't try to delude myself about what I'm doing. 
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It's not arguable.  No one has ever been charged. The case law doesn't exist, that's how laws are made. Without a law against it its not illegal. 

 
This is really cool. 

Maybe less legal whining and more discussion of the app. 

 
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I installed the apk and played around with it for a bit. It's pretty good but I dont like it quite enough to replace Kodi...I will keep it installed for another option though.

 
NutterButter said:
So other than it being easier to install if you were starting from scratch, what else are the pros?
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Searching, FF, Rewind, quality of picture and streams, much easier to use and don't have to deal with constant updates for starters.

Takes up about 90% less memory too.

 
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Wingnut said:
What if I want to find a documentary or concert or something along those lines? 
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There a search button on the home page.   Type in what you want at there it is.   This is smooth and fast, not clunky like Kodi when you search.   Also, everything is thumbnails, so no switching pages, just scroll down. 

I used it many times this weekend.   As a novice kodi user, this is a much better solution for me.   I use PS Vue for live TV.   I deleted Kodi off my fire TV, no real use for it that I can think of other than PPV live sporting events which if usually buy if I want to watch them.

 
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IC FBGCav said:
Searching, FF, Rewind, quality of picture and streams, much easier to use and don't have to deal with constant updates for starters.

Takes up about 90% less memory too.
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What's better about searching and FF/Rewind?   Quality of picture/streams better than kodi with real debrid?  How so?  Just trying to figure out if its something worth switching to.  I'm currently using a raspberry pi with osmc installed so its not straightforward testing this out.

 
NutterButter said:
What's better about searching and FF/Rewind?   Quality of picture/streams better than kodi with real debrid?  How so?  Just trying to figure out if its something worth switching to.  I'm currently using a raspberry pi with osmc installed so its not straightforward testing this out.
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Not sure but I get great feeds, no buffering without paying for real debrid.   But it might be best for you to stick with what you know.

 
As a regular Kodi user with Exodus+RealDebrid I am impressed. 

The UI is vastly improved. Much better looking. Simpler and more intuitive navigation. As a designer, I love the look/feel compared to clunky old kodi setup. I was a fan of thumbnail look on kodi so this is a natural transition for me.

Content Selection seems comparable if not superior, and I've not even linked my RealDebrid account yet. 

The player does seem much better. FF/REW always caused buffering issues for me, with occasional freezes/crashes. This seems to have fixed that. Much more fluid functionality. 

I've only spent a few mins with it, just installed last night, but I look forward to spending more time with it. If this helps remove the frequent tweaking needed to keep Kodi running smoothly these days... it's a worthy switch. 

 
IC FBGCav said:
Searching, FF, Rewind, quality of picture and streams, much easier to use and don't have to deal with constant updates for starters.

Takes up about 90% less memory too.
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You can FF and rewind with Kodi, too. I also have  Kodi remote app on my phone...no hunting and pecking when searching with the awful on screen keyboard, I just type on my phone what I wanna search for and boom.

Ill play around with Terrrium a but more this week...one thing I do like is being able to filter out cam and non HD links  (I dont use Real Debrid).

 
Wingnut said:
You can FF and rewind with Kodi, too. I also have  Kodi remote app on my phone...no hunting and pecking when searching with the awful on screen keyboard, I just type on my phone what I wanna search for and boom.

Ill play around with Terrrium a but more this week...one thing I do like is being able to filter out cam and non HD links  (I dont use Real Debrid).
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I get that.  I am not a high volume user.   Just a couple movies a month.   On Kodi it would take 20 minutes the deal with the new downloads before I could get started.   Just a no-brainer for what I use it for.  

 
are people complaining about FFwing and RWing on Sticks or FireTVs?  Because on my stick I can FF and RW awesomely with the forward and back buttons and the stream clicks in right away, but on my GF's FireTV it always freezes for a bit if I do it that way, need to use the FF and RW buttons there.

 
[icon] said:
As a regular Kodi user with Exodus+RealDebrid I am impressed. 

The UI is vastly improved. Much better looking. Simpler and more intuitive navigation. As a designer, I love the look/feel compared to clunky old kodi setup. I was a fan of thumbnail look on kodi so this is a natural transition for me.

Content Selection seems comparable if not superior, and I've not even linked my RealDebrid account yet. 

The player does seem much better. FF/REW always caused buffering issues for me, with occasional freezes/crashes. This seems to have fixed that. Much more fluid functionality. 

I've only spent a few mins with it, just installed last night, but I look forward to spending more time with it. If this helps remove the frequent tweaking needed to keep Kodi running smoothly these days... it's a worthy switch. 
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I'll only use kodi for ppvs now 

 
Gonna try it out.  As I’ve mentioned in the Kodi thread, I generally download and view content via Kodi.  More control over quality for me.  I’ll give this a shot.

 
LOCO said:
so there a reliable youtube link how to install.  maybe something a 4th grader can understand
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s9uTx_IObwM

Go about 4 minutes in and it starts on the fire tv install.

But it is really this easy.

Get downloader app.

Type in docsquiffy.com

Scroll down and double click on downloads

Under media players click on and install MX player - once installed you don't have to open it. 

Hit back button to get back to downloads

Under Movie and TV shows click on Terrarium TV and install the AD FREE version for fire.  6th one down.  

Enjoy.

 
Otis said:
This another way to steal stuff?  Sounds neat. 
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I could care less about stealing stuff, but the convenience of having a full library of movies one button press away.  I would willing pay $5 per movie to watch but I hate having to locate a particular movie and try to see if it at a local Redbox or maybe online on Amazon Prime or maybe on HBO or maybe in Netflix or Hulu.  I don't watch many movies and I certainly don't plan them out days in advance.  I just want to sit down in front of my 120 inch screen and pick a movie I am in the mood for when I have some free time.  Kodi was not all that user friendly and required periodic updates.  This is about the Utopia of movie watching experience.  Easy and fast and complete access and high quality.  Actually would have been cheaper for me to rent the movies with the few movies I do watch. 

 
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As long as it benefits me, I approve of stealing anything at any time, as long as I don't get caught. It's great. 

 
jon_mx said:
Ok Mr. Moral Authority, king of the human trafficking AMPs.  
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I don’t know what any of this means. But it just sounds like this thing is another way to steal like the ways before. I clicked into the thread wondering if it was a new legit service or something. As a cord cutter I’m always looking for new and better ways to get my services in a way that also rewards the people who worked hard to make it and are seeking fair compensation for it.  

If we all were freeloaders, there’d be no more television and movies. So, happy to pay my fair share. 

 
I installed this on my fire stick.I like it but am having a lot more buffering issues than I have with Kodi.The highest internet speed I can get right now is 8. Is that the problem?

 
Otis said:
I don’t know what any of this means. But it just sounds like this thing is another way to steal like the ways before. I clicked into the thread wondering if it was a new legit service or something. As a cord cutter I’m always looking for new and better ways to get my services in a way that also rewards the people who worked hard to make it and are seeking fair compensation for it.  

If we all were freeloaders, there’d be no more television and movies. So, happy to pay my fair share. 
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that's actually my end goal.   join the cause.

 
I agree it's about the convenience.  If paying 5.99 for an Amazon rental is quicker than searching kodi or terrarium (sometimes it is), I'm not hesitating.  I'm not blind to the fact that I'm streaming pirated content that is owned by rich hollywood execs, but now I guess it's pirating content that is owned by rich, pedophile, rapist, hollywood execs, so I don't feel as bad as I used to.  

 
Otis said:
I don’t know what any of this means. But it just sounds like this thing is another way to steal like the ways before. I clicked into the thread wondering if it was a new legit service or something. As a cord cutter I’m always looking for new and better ways to get my services in a way that also rewards the people who worked hard to make it and are seeking fair compensation for it.  

If we all were freeloaders, there’d be no more television and movies. So, happy to pay my fair share. 
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Prior to cable, the content was "free", and was supported by these things called advertisements.  Maybe you remember them.  

 
Otis said:
I don’t know what any of this means. But it just sounds like this thing is another way to steal like the ways before. I clicked into the thread wondering if it was a new legit service or something. As a cord cutter I’m always looking for new and better ways to get my services in a way that also rewards the people who worked hard to make it and are seeking fair compensation for it.  

If we all were freeloaders, there’d be no more television and movies. So, happy to pay my fair share. 
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i posted a link a few months ago, either in the GOT or Kodi thread - it centered around a quote from one of GOTs executive producers, where he basically said that being the most pirated series in TV history was better than winning the Emmy. verbatim. 

his thinking was that folks who pirate are usually more savvy tech people, and are also more likely to spread the word about how great a show is, and who delight in turning people on to hidden gems, etc

now, GOT was gargantuan enough, but, he said it (pirating) helped drive both merchandizing and fanatical devotion, catapulting the series from ratings behemoth to incomparable cultural phenomenon. 

this whole streaming endeavor is far from under the radar, as evidenced by HBO execs being hip to the jive, and giving a nod and a wink and a  :thumbup:

 
Wingnut said:
Do we need to have this argument in EVERY streaming/torrent type thread? smh
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They are just trolls that pick what laws matter to them.  It's like someone arguing that everyone that goes over the speed limit should lose their license.  Don't sweat the ignorant.

 
Still a much better experience compared to Kodi for me.  I don't see adds on mine so here are the links that @[icon] posted in the Kodi thread.  Everything has been in HD also.

(Get Downloader for FireTV (if you don't already have it))

1) Download MX Player at http://tinyurl.com/y92tw2lx

2) Download TT at http://tinyurl.com/y9d9n8t4 (fire TV - No ads version)

The only other thing I added was MOBDRO and I'm still working on figuring out best uses for it.  I didn't spend a ton of time on it Sunday, but didn't see any NFL on the channels I checked.  UFC was flawless Saturday night.

 
Bobcat10 said:
Still a much better experience compared to Kodi for me.  I don't see adds on mine so here are the links that @[icon] posted in the Kodi thread.  Everything has been in HD also.

(Get Downloader for FireTV (if you don't already have it))

1) Download MX Player at http://tinyurl.com/y92tw2lx

2) Download TT at http://tinyurl.com/y9d9n8t4 (fire TV - No ads version)

The only other thing I added was MOBDRO and I'm still working on figuring out best uses for it.  I didn't spend a ton of time on it Sunday, but didn't see any NFL on the channels I checked.  UFC was flawless Saturday night.
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Glad it got ya working, GB. 

I still haven't bothered to link up my Real Debrid info into Terrarium, not really necessary. With Exodus it was worthless without it. This is a huge improvement for me. The GF loves the interface too. 

 
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Otis said:
So?
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Let me break it down to you this way.  Say it's 1950 and I tell you I have a magic antenna that can broadcast 200 channels coast to coast to any house at any time.   Hell, you can put it at any house on the planet if you so choose.  Use ad support to pay for the infrastructure and you'll make ROI.    

Anyone with any content at all would jump at the chance to get that out there.  Today they can, yet they aren't, and the practice of streaming remains totally and completely legal.  You need to start asking why.  

MPAA had a chance, and chose not to force jurisdiction on streaming.  So people came up with methods to streamline the magic antennas.  And here we are.  

 
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