Terrell Suggs/Tom Brady (1 Viewer)

[greenline]

Per WEEI.com via Baltimore reporters:

4. Speaking of beefs with Brady, Terrell Suggs is the gift that keeps on giving. According to Baltimore-area reporters, the Ravens linebacker was asked Wednesday about a recent brawl that took place between Tennessee cornerback Cortland Finnegan and Houston receiver Andre Johnson, and proceeded to take a not-so-subtle shot at the New England quarterback. “Maybe I throw some punches at a certain quarterback with a bad hairdo, maybe I get thrown out of the league,” Suggs said. This is the latest in a long-running back-and-forth between the two, one that included a postgame shot at Suggs after the Patriots beat the Ravens earlier this season: “They talk a lot for only beating us once in nine years,” Brady told WEEI after that one.

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[Choke]

Ive stated exactly that.

Replace Cortland with another player, like Brady, and watch what happens.

And if you want to defend with the "instigator" tag, then replace Cortland with Rivers and see what happens.

Suggs and the Ravens get "real football" as a sport.

 

[greenline]

Ive stated exactly that.

Replace Cortland with another player, like Brady, and watch what happens.

And if you want to defend with the "instigator" tag, then replace Cortland with Rivers and see what happens.

Suggs and the Ravens get "real football" as a sport.

I'm not following your point. Replace Finnegan with Brady? So Andre Johnson is punching Brady? Then replace Finnegan again, but with Rivers? So now Johnson is punching Rivers?

How does this apply to Suggs getting real football as a sport?

 

[Choke]

Suggs was stating the league is imposing different rule sets for different people.

Thats what his point was.

 

[greenline]

Suggs was stating the league is imposing different rule sets for different people.Thats what his point was.

I don't want to over defend quarterbacks here and to be honest I don't even know what the official ruling is on throwing punches or ripping off helmets, but I would say this type of thing is completely subjective and watching two lineman fight each other when they've had the same one-on-one battle all day (for years) compared to two guys who were jawing at each other is a lot different. I don't see how Suggs beating the #### out of Brady is equal to Johnson beating on Finnegan. They are both attacks and both are illegal but if the rule is subjective then I think it's fair to say the circumstances are different and would be treated as such. I also was very surprised than Johnson was not suspended but he has a halo-boy persona and his coach lobbied for him in the press conference. If Finnegan started the punches he would have certainly been treated differently than Johnson was because of circumstance. \

 

[Choke]

I don't see how Suggs beating the #### out of Brady is equal to Johnson beating on Finnegan. They are both attacks and both are illegal but if the rule is subjective then I think it's fair to say the circumstances are different and would be treated as such.

AFTER the play. When a player is prone, face down on the ground. With his helmet off. And you stand above him throwing haymakers to the back of the skull... it should not matter what the name is on the back of the jersey.

 

[greenline]

I don't see how Suggs beating the #### out of Brady is equal to Johnson beating on Finnegan. They are both attacks and both are illegal but if the rule is subjective then I think it's fair to say the circumstances are different and would be treated as such.

AFTER the play. When a player is prone, face down on the ground. With his helmet off. And you stand above him throwing haymakers to the back of the skull... it should not matter what the name is on the back of the jersey.

Got it. Yeah the Kubiak statement sounded staged to me but that's just conjecture. To me AJ should have been suspended. Suggs would definitely be suspended but again different circumstances. It's just how it is when you typically are well-behaved like Johnson is and then suddenly explode on a well-known troublemaker like Finnegan.If the rule was hard and fast, it would be one thing, but it's subjective so we get varying results.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

I don't see how Suggs beating the #### out of Brady is equal to Johnson beating on Finnegan. They are both attacks and both are illegal but if the rule is subjective then I think it's fair to say the circumstances are different and would be treated as such.

AFTER the play. When a player is prone, face down on the ground. With his helmet off. And you stand above him throwing haymakers to the back of the skull... it should not matter what the name is on the back of the jersey.

Two things:1. Finnegan got exactly what he deserved. He has classic little man syndrome and AJ issued the beatdown that was earned. 2. Suggs is a crybaby. The Ravens need to rise above crying about outcomes; otherwise they're no better than the Steelers or Chargers.How bout dat?

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Suggs should probably worry about being a better player and winning something before running his mouth about Brady.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Suggs was stating the league is imposing different rule sets for different people.

Sure different rules for different people - no question about it. There's one set of rules for dirty players and chronic offenders like Finnegan and Harrison.And there's another set of rules for guys who play within the rules in 99% of their games.

 

[shortbow]

I don't see how Suggs beating the #### out of Brady is equal to Johnson beating on Finnegan. They are both attacks and both are illegal but if the rule is subjective then I think it's fair to say the circumstances are different and would be treated as such.

AFTER the play. When a player is prone, face down on the ground. With his helmet off. And you stand above him throwing haymakers to the back of the skull... it should not matter what the name is on the back of the jersey.

Two things:1. Finnegan got exactly what he deserved. He has classic little man syndrome and AJ issued the beatdown that was earned. 2. Suggs is a crybaby. The Ravens need to rise above crying about outcomes; otherwise they're no better than the Steelers or Chargers.How bout dat?

So im not the only one that think Finnegans a punk and got what he deserved after he jammed AJ head back twice off the line. Two plays in a row.

 

[Casting Couch]

I don't see how Suggs beating the #### out of Brady is equal to Johnson beating on Finnegan. They are both attacks and both are illegal but if the rule is subjective then I think it's fair to say the circumstances are different and would be treated as such.

AFTER the play. When a player is prone, face down on the ground. With his helmet off. And you stand above him throwing haymakers to the back of the skull... it should not matter what the name is on the back of the jersey.

Two things:1. Finnegan got exactly what he deserved. He has classic little man syndrome and AJ issued the beatdown that was earned. 2. Suggs is a crybaby. The Ravens need to rise above crying about outcomes; otherwise they're no better than the Steelers or Chargers.How bout dat?

 

[Choke]

Try watching the OLine-DLine play during a game. (something some of you have zero clue about) You frequently get the exact same type of situation. Constant blocks up high.

No matter the opponents "punk attitude" or "physical play".... throwing blows to the back of an unprotected skull after the whistle is not the answer... no matter what the names are.

 

[shortbow]

Try watching the OLine-DLine play during a game. (something some of you have zero clue about) You frequently get the exact same type of situation. Constant blocks up high.No matter the opponents "punk attitude" or "physical play".... throwing blows to the back of an unprotected skull after the whistle is not the answer... no matter what the names are.

This is obviously not the case, they were both out of line and both have history of getting out of line, but it was clear that Finnegan instigated it and the events that followed were bad.If anyone should have been suspended it should have been Finnegan in my opinion, but it would be incredibly unfair to suspend one and not the other because of how the fight escalated.I think fines for both is a reasonable punishment, I also think suspending both would be fair, but I think AJ was in his own right.

 

[tdhartis]

If Brady initiated a fist fight like Finnegan did for something along the lines of a late hit or something I would think he deserved to get his ### beat. Finnegan is a punk and all, but the main reason why I feel like his end result was deserved was because he threw the first punch. I like Brady and don't care for Suggs, but if you initiate conflict in that manner by flying fists don't cry about being face down in the ground being dominated like a prison #####, no matter who you are.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Ive stated exactly that.

Replace Cortland with another player, like Brady, and watch what happens.

And if you want to defend with the "instigator" tag, then replace Cortland with Rivers and see what happens.

Suggs and the Ravens get "real football" as a sport.

I'm not following your point. Replace Finnegan with Brady? So Andre Johnson is punching Brady? Then replace Finnegan again, but with Rivers? So now Johnson is punching Rivers?

How does this apply to Suggs getting real football as a sport?

no, he's saying brady is beating up rivers

 

[Green and Gold]

That didn't really sound like venom against Brady, more against the league.

 

[DoubleG]

Suggs was stating the league is imposing different rule sets for different people.

Sure different rules for different people - no question about it. There's one set of rules for dirty players and chronic offenders like Finnegan and Harrison.And there's another set of rules for guys who play within the rules in 99% of their games.

Harrison clealry makes the point. I'd bet if a couple of his hits were made by Urlacher or Lewis, all 4 wouldn't have been fines and/or penalties.

 

[ty247]

Try watching the OLine-DLine play during a game. (something some of you have zero clue about) You frequently get the exact same type of situation. Constant blocks up high.

No matter the opponents "punk attitude" or "physical play".... throwing blows to the back of an unprotected skull after the whistle is not the answer... no matter what the names are.

This is obviously not the case, they were both out of line and both have history of getting out of line, but it was clear that Finnegan instigated it and the events that followed were bad.If anyone should have been suspended it should have been Finnegan in my opinion, but it would be incredibly unfair to suspend one and not the other because of how the fight escalated.

I think fines for both is a reasonable punishment, I also think suspending both would be fair, but I think AJ was in his own right.

Were you and I watching the same game?Finnegan never threw the first punch..

Finnegan was getting under AJ's skin by jamming him high and hard on the line right most of the game right as theyd snap it. It's nothing that he isn't allowed to do..

At least the receiver can see it and knows its going to happen.. huge crack back blocks that knock guys out or injure them, are just as legal yet Hines Ward is still looked upon highly (except by Ravens Browns and Bengals)

Here's a nice little piece on it;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...20108501_2.html

 

[Da Guru]

I don't see how Suggs beating the #### out of Brady is equal to Johnson beating on Finnegan. They are both attacks and both are illegal but if the rule is subjective then I think it's fair to say the circumstances are different and would be treated as such.

AFTER the play. When a player is prone, face down on the ground. With his helmet off. And you stand above him throwing haymakers to the back of the skull... it should not matter what the name is on the back of the jersey.

Two things:1. Finnegan got exactly what he deserved. He has classic little man syndrome and AJ issued the beatdown that was earned. 2. Suggs is a crybaby. The Ravens need to rise above crying about outcomes; otherwise they're no better than the Steelers or Chargers.How bout dat?

So im not the only one that think Finnegans a punk and got what he deserved after he jammed AJ head back twice off the line. Two plays in a row.

Finnegan had it coming. The guy is a cheap dirty player and got his. And if you have ever hear Suggs talk the guy is about as sharp as a pair of childrens scissors. So take what he says with a grain of salt.

 

[tdhartis]

Try watching the OLine-DLine play during a game. (something some of you have zero clue about) You frequently get the exact same type of situation. Constant blocks up high.

No matter the opponents "punk attitude" or "physical play".... throwing blows to the back of an unprotected skull after the whistle is not the answer... no matter what the names are.

This is obviously not the case, they were both out of line and both have history of getting out of line, but it was clear that Finnegan instigated it and the events that followed were bad.If anyone should have been suspended it should have been Finnegan in my opinion, but it would be incredibly unfair to suspend one and not the other because of how the fight escalated.

I think fines for both is a reasonable punishment, I also think suspending both would be fair, but I think AJ was in his own right.

Were you and I watching the same game?Finnegan never threw the first punch..

Finnegan was getting under AJ's skin by jamming him high and hard on the line right most of the game right as theyd snap it. It's nothing that he isn't allowed to do..

At least the receiver can see it and knows its going to happen.. huge crack back blocks that knock guys out or injure them, are just as legal yet Hines Ward is still looked upon highly (except by Ravens Browns and Bengals)

Here's a nice little piece on it;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...20108501_2.html

I don't know what game you were watching. Finnegan threw the first punch, although it was not a very good one and AJ still had his helmet on.And in case you didn't catch it, its at the 0:43 second mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBT6MygnKKw...layer_embedded#!

 

[Masked Vigilante]

Suggs is one ugly mofo.

 

[Sweet Love]

Ive stated exactly that.

Replace Cortland with another player, like Brady, and watch what happens.

And if you want to defend with the "instigator" tag, then replace Cortland with Rivers and see what happens.

Suggs and the Ravens get "real football" as a sport.

I'm not following your point. Replace Finnegan with Brady? So Andre Johnson is punching Brady? Then replace Finnegan again, but with Rivers? So now Johnson is punching Rivers?

How does this apply to Suggs getting real football as a sport?

no, he's saying brady is beating up rivers

Are you sure? I thought he meant Rivers and Brady teamed up to take on Suggs (kinda like a classic WWF handicaped match).

 

[ty247]

Try watching the OLine-DLine play during a game. (something some of you have zero clue about) You frequently get the exact same type of situation. Constant blocks up high.

No matter the opponents "punk attitude" or "physical play".... throwing blows to the back of an unprotected skull after the whistle is not the answer... no matter what the names are.

This is obviously not the case, they were both out of line and both have history of getting out of line, but it was clear that Finnegan instigated it and the events that followed were bad.If anyone should have been suspended it should have been Finnegan in my opinion, but it would be incredibly unfair to suspend one and not the other because of how the fight escalated.

I think fines for both is a reasonable punishment, I also think suspending both would be fair, but I think AJ was in his own right.

Were you and I watching the same game?Finnegan never threw the first punch..

Finnegan was getting under AJ's skin by jamming him high and hard on the line right most of the game right as theyd snap it. It's nothing that he isn't allowed to do..

At least the receiver can see it and knows its going to happen.. huge crack back blocks that knock guys out or injure them, are just as legal yet Hines Ward is still looked upon highly (except by Ravens Browns and Bengals)

Here's a nice little piece on it;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...20108501_2.html

I don't know what game you were watching. Finnegan threw the first punch, although it was not a very good one and AJ still had his helmet on.And in case you didn't catch it, its at the 0:43 second mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBT6MygnKKw...layer_embedded#!

That's not a punch though.. his hand ends up grabbing the facemask. I can see where you can kind of get the idea of the intent as both guys were on edge and ready to go at it.. and not just that play

 

[Andrew Garda]

Ive stated exactly that.

Replace Cortland with another player, like Brady, and watch what happens.

And if you want to defend with the "instigator" tag, then replace Cortland with Rivers and see what happens.

Suggs and the Ravens get "real football" as a sport.

I'm not following your point. Replace Finnegan with Brady? So Andre Johnson is punching Brady? Then replace Finnegan again, but with Rivers? So now Johnson is punching Rivers?

How does this apply to Suggs getting real football as a sport?

no, he's saying brady is beating up rivers

Where do I sign up for this Pay Per View?

 

[basher]

Suggs was stating the league is imposing different rule sets for different people.Thats what his point was.

this is life. better to do what it takes to get into the right side of the situation then to sit and complain about the way things clearly are.

 

[theplayer11]

Brady is exactly right..Ravens do a lot of talking, but haven't backed it up against the Patriots.

 

[sho nuff]

Try watching the OLine-DLine play during a game. (something some of you have zero clue about) You frequently get the exact same type of situation. Constant blocks up high.

No matter the opponents "punk attitude" or "physical play".... throwing blows to the back of an unprotected skull after the whistle is not the answer... no matter what the names are.

This is obviously not the case, they were both out of line and both have history of getting out of line, but it was clear that Finnegan instigated it and the events that followed were bad.If anyone should have been suspended it should have been Finnegan in my opinion, but it would be incredibly unfair to suspend one and not the other because of how the fight escalated.

I think fines for both is a reasonable punishment, I also think suspending both would be fair, but I think AJ was in his own right.

Were you and I watching the same game?Finnegan never threw the first punch..

Finnegan was getting under AJ's skin by jamming him high and hard on the line right most of the game right as theyd snap it. It's nothing that he isn't allowed to do..

At least the receiver can see it and knows its going to happen.. huge crack back blocks that knock guys out or injure them, are just as legal yet Hines Ward is still looked upon highly (except by Ravens Browns and Bengals)

Here's a nice little piece on it;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...20108501_2.html

I don't know what game you were watching. Finnegan threw the first punch, although it was not a very good one and AJ still had his helmet on.And in case you didn't catch it, its at the 0:43 second mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBT6MygnKKw...layer_embedded#!

That was not a punch by Finnegan.

 

[tdhartis]

Maybe I am confused by the definition of a punch then, cause last I checked when you take a fist and swing or in this case jab at someones head it'sa punch, albeit a poor attempt.

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2518/finneganpunch.png

Really?

Also, if you go to the 0:56 second mark to look at the second camera angle of the video I posted above, that hand (right hand) that supposedly "ending up grabbing the facemask" at the end of that motion at 0:43 is firmly planted in Andre's chest. So yes, it ended up grabbing his facemask in the end, but the punch to Andre's helmet was not the same motion that ended up grabbing his face mask to throw it off. I'm going to have to agree to disagree with anyone that thinks otherwise.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Ive stated exactly that.

Replace Cortland with another player, like Brady, and watch what happens.

And if you want to defend with the "instigator" tag, then replace Cortland with Rivers and see what happens.

Suggs and the Ravens get "real football" as a sport.

I'm not following your point. Replace Finnegan with Brady? So Andre Johnson is punching Brady? Then replace Finnegan again, but with Rivers? So now Johnson is punching Rivers?

How does this apply to Suggs getting real football as a sport?

no, he's saying brady is beating up rivers

Are you sure? I thought he meant Rivers and Brady teamed up to take on Suggs (kinda like a classic WWF handicaped match).

That would be one hell of a fight. A girl, a brat, a catfish and a cripple.

 

[parrot]

I wonder if Brady has to pay Suggs anything for living inside his head?

 

[Jagov]

Per WEEI.com via Baltimore reporters:

4. Speaking of beefs with Brady, Terrell Suggs is the gift that keeps on giving. According to Baltimore-area reporters, the Ravens linebacker was asked Wednesday about a recent brawl that took place between Tennessee cornerback Cortland Finnegan and Houston receiver Andre Johnson, and proceeded to take a not-so-subtle shot at the New England quarterback. “Maybe I throw some punches at a certain quarterback with a bad hairdo, maybe I get thrown out of the league,” Suggs said. This is the latest in a long-running back-and-forth between the two, one that included a postgame shot at Suggs after the Patriots beat the Ravens earlier this season: “They talk a lot for only beating us once in nine years,” Brady told WEEI after that one.

WEEI.com

As a Steeler fan, I really do not like Suggs. Not even a bit. But if he would actually do this, he would be my favorite player of all time, forever and ever, until eternity comes!

 

[PatsFanCT]

Trust me, Suggs wants no part of brady. Fo Shizzle!

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Trust me, Suggs wants no part of brady. Fo Shizzle!

No kidding, just on the off chance he would lose to a guy who wears furry girl boots.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

don't mess with the GOAT

 

[sho nuff]

Maybe I am confused by the definition of a punch then, cause last I checked when you take a fist and swing or in this case jab at someones head it'sa punch, albeit a poor attempt.

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2518/finneganpunch.png

Really?

Also, if you go to the 0:56 second mark to look at the second camera angle of the video I posted above, that hand (right hand) that supposedly "ending up grabbing the facemask" at the end of that motion at 0:43 is firmly planted in Andre's chest. So yes, it ended up grabbing his facemask in the end, but the punch to Andre's helmet was not the same motion that ended up grabbing his face mask to throw it off. I'm going to have to agree to disagree with anyone that thinks otherwise.

So, you took a blurry picture of a guy grabbing a facemask and call that a punch.They showed it again during pregame last night and at no time did Finnegan punch him.

And yes, Finnegan is a punk who likes to egg on that crap.

Still dumb for Johnson to go way overboard and he should have been suspended.