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Terror Attack in Quebec (1 Viewer)
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joffer
Footballguy
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Does Canada get its name added to the list of countries with an immigration ban? Maybe we need to restrict immigration for people who support Trump. I don't want this kind of violent extremism making its way to America.
squistion
Footballguy
Rob Beschizza @Beschizza 14h14 hours ago
What if a terrorist killed 6 people and the media lost interest the instant
it turned out to be a white nazi instead of the hoped-for jihadi
What if a terrorist killed 6 people and the media lost interest the instant
it turned out to be a white nazi instead of the hoped-for jihadi
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Meh, if Trump and the people he surrounds himself with want to lump all Muslims in together, I don't have a problem with this alt-right shooter being lumped with all the other alt-right Trumpers. #### em, they're far more dangerous than the Muslim population.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
I agree to a point. However, it really isn't an apples to apples comparison. Would you say the alt-right Trumpers are far more dangerous than the radical Muslims? I think that's a much closer comparison.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Sure, there's lots of degrees.
Least dangerous - Your average Muslim/Your average right leaning person
More dangerous - Your average alt-right/Trumpite - because these people are legitimizing and spreading hate and division even if they aren't acting on it.
Most dangerous - Radical Muslims/Radical alt-right (which at that level you can actually call Nazi's - Richard Spencer and the like) - Acting/actively promoting hate and violence on others.
NREC34
Footballguy
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Black person kills a white guy and conservatives rage that it's not reported as a hate crime.
White guy mass murders a group of people based on a political agenda and go out of their way to not refer to it as terrorism.
NREC34
Footballguy
NREC34
Footballguy
Well, I would hope there would be similar outrage no matter what.
Can we at least agree on this point: these incidents are bad and if we don't all learn to get along and respect each other they aren't going to stop. It's just going to be retaliation after retaliation.
And this point I know you won't agree but maybe just maybe the Trump EO combined with the statement the Canadian PM made about accepting refugees could have had something to do with this...especially if the guy has been shown to admire Trump as the reports have been.
Dickies
Footballguy
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Again, this is not an apples to apples comparison. I think the outrage stems from the fact that we have seen whites kill blacks and it's a hate crime. Black kills white, and it's not a hate crime.
If a single white guy kills people, I think it's different than a group killing people. I'd be much quicker to call killings from the KKK terrorism than I would some single guy in Missisippi for example.
Color has nothing to do with it IMO.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Why was a single guy shooting people in an Orlando nightclub instantly terrorism?
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
I guess it depends on who was calling it that and what is meant by "instantly". The shooter himself said he was part of ISIL.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Yeah but he had no real ties to them. He wasn't flying out there to meet them or even talking to them on the internet. He just vocalized his allegiance to them. I would bet this "lone wolf" guy in Canada has spent more time chatting with fellow like-minded individuals on Stormfront than Mateen did on muslimterrorists.org.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
So you are asking people to question whether a guy proclaiming terroristic ties is telling the truth before calling it an act of terrorism? Seems kind of odd to me.
