Testosterone treatments - educate me. (1 Viewer)

[SacramentoBob]

Yeah, no thanks.

 

[culdeus]

In short, hell no.

Testosterone medication may boost risk of heart attack, stroke, death

The new research found that among 8,709 older men who were assessed for the possibility of blocked arteries, those taking testosterone were 30% more likely to suffer an adverse event -- a stroke, a heart attack or death.

Just wait till the prostate studies come out in 10 years. It will probably help solve the middle class problem, by killing them off.

Just a purely intuitive level, we all know how powerful testosterone is. It's very difficult for me to believe that any long-term good is going to come from injecting yourself with something like this. It won't be surprising at all when medical studies get caught up.

People always overuse this stuff (on the macro level) before they realize what the drawbacks are. This isn't something to play with.

Look at the depression, suicides, etc. from former NFL players suspected of steroid use, and you tell me what the downside here is.

Or you could look at Lance Armstrong and conclude he was the lucky one managing to come out of it with one ball.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Eating rhinoceros #### is a proven safe, natural, and healthy way to increase T without the risk of side effects and complications.

 

[Brony]

I still would have no hesitation using a testosterone gel or implantable product. It's not like testosterone products just came in vogue a couple of years ago. They've been treated to the same scrutiny as the WHI studies and don't have the same effects. If you did a similar study on orange juice, you'd eventually find something that would raise some kind of risk and some jackass in here would say "Aha! See! Orange Juice kills!"

 

[matuski]

I still would have no hesitation using a testosterone gel or implantable product. It's not like testosterone products just came in vogue a couple of years ago. They've been treated to the same scrutiny as the WHI studies and don't have the same effects. If you did a similar study on orange juice, you'd eventually find something that would raise some kind of risk and some jackass in here would say "Aha! See! Orange Juice kills!"

Really? Something tells me you didn't bother reading it.

This isn't the only study, and this study was very specific. I don't see any reaching whatsoever for links here... they were testing for specific outcomes related to CAD, they found these outcomes in 30% more patients using T. Even worse is it didn't matter for people who originally tested clear for CAD, they still had the adverse outcomes at a greater rate.

 

[Brony]

I did read it. As the author points out "This study is the first observational study, to our knowledge, to suggest that testosterone therapy is associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes. Our findings raise some uncertainty regarding the potential safety of testosterone use in men."

It's been well-studied and this is the first suggesting some kind of risk. I would have no hesitation using a T gel or implantable and you would have hesitation. It's OK that we have different interpretations and tolerance for risk/benefit.

 

[matuski]

I did read it. As the author points out "This study is the first observational study, to our knowledge, to suggest that testosterone therapy is associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes. Our findings raise some uncertainty regarding the potential safety of testosterone use in men."

It's been well-studied and this is the first suggesting some kind of risk. I would have no hesitation using a T gel or implantable and you would have hesitation. It's OK that we have different interpretations and tolerance for risk/benefit.

The latest research, published in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. (JAMA), is the second major study to suggest there may be public health dangers in a booming market for "low T" medication. In 2010, researchers called an early end to a clinical trial of testosterone supplementation in frail older men, many of whom had cardiovascular disease, after they detected a notably higher rate of heart attacks and strokes in the group getting testosterone.

Second study on CAD alone.

 

[Brony]

I did read it. As the author points out "This study is the first observational study, to our knowledge, to suggest that testosterone therapy is associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes. Our findings raise some uncertainty regarding the potential safety of testosterone use in men."

It's been well-studied and this is the first suggesting some kind of risk. I would have no hesitation using a T gel or implantable and you would have hesitation. It's OK that we have different interpretations and tolerance for risk/benefit.

The latest research, published in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. (JAMA), is the second major study to suggest there may be public health dangers in a booming market for "low T" medication. In 2010, researchers called an early end to a clinical trial of testosterone supplementation in frail older men, many of whom had cardiovascular disease, after they detected a notably higher rate of heart attacks and strokes in the group getting testosterone.

Second study on CAD alone.

Sorry chief. I only read the original medical journal articles, not the USA Today summaries. You're probably right. Hurray for you! Should I send you your cookie in the mail?

 

[jon_mx]

I did read it. As the author points out "This study is the first observational study, to our knowledge, to suggest that testosterone therapy is associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes. Our findings raise some uncertainty regarding the potential safety of testosterone use in men."

It's been well-studied and this is the first suggesting some kind of risk. I would have no hesitation using a T gel or implantable and you would have hesitation. It's OK that we have different interpretations and tolerance for risk/benefit.

The latest research, published in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. (JAMA), is the second major study to suggest there may be public health dangers in a booming market for "low T" medication. In 2010, researchers called an early end to a clinical trial of testosterone supplementation in frail older men, many of whom had cardiovascular disease, after they detected a notably higher rate of heart attacks and strokes in the group getting testosterone.

Second study on CAD alone.

Sorry chief. I only read the original medical journal articles, not the USA Today summaries. You're probably right. Hurray for you! Should I send you your cookie in the mail?

I don't think he is looking for a cookie. He is trying to help people make informed decisions.

 

[matuski]

I did read it. As the author points out "This study is the first observational study, to our knowledge, to suggest that testosterone therapy is associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes. Our findings raise some uncertainty regarding the potential safety of testosterone use in men."

It's been well-studied and this is the first suggesting some kind of risk. I would have no hesitation using a T gel or implantable and you would have hesitation. It's OK that we have different interpretations and tolerance for risk/benefit.

The latest research, published in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. (JAMA), is the second major study to suggest there may be public health dangers in a booming market for "low T" medication. In 2010, researchers called an early end to a clinical trial of testosterone supplementation in frail older men, many of whom had cardiovascular disease, after they detected a notably higher rate of heart attacks and strokes in the group getting testosterone.

Second study on CAD alone.

Sorry chief. I only read the original medical journal articles, not the USA Today summaries. You're probably right. Hurray for you! Should I send you your cookie in the mail?

I didn't know we were getting our feelings hurt over this.

Fact - more than one study. Two studies with significant enrollment and over a significant amount of time. If you read the original study, I'd be interested in the p value of the results?

 

[matuski]

I did read it. As the author points out "This study is the first observational study, to our knowledge, to suggest that testosterone therapy is associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes. Our findings raise some uncertainty regarding the potential safety of testosterone use in men."

It's been well-studied and this is the first suggesting some kind of risk. I would have no hesitation using a T gel or implantable and you would have hesitation. It's OK that we have different interpretations and tolerance for risk/benefit.

The latest research, published in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. (JAMA), is the second major study to suggest there may be public health dangers in a booming market for "low T" medication. In 2010, researchers called an early end to a clinical trial of testosterone supplementation in frail older men, many of whom had cardiovascular disease, after they detected a notably higher rate of heart attacks and strokes in the group getting testosterone.

Second study on CAD alone.

Sorry chief. I only read the original medical journal articles, not the USA Today summaries. You're probably right. Hurray for you! Should I send you your cookie in the mail?

I don't think he is looking for a cookie. He is trying to help people make informed decisions.

I always welcome volunteers that want to make a thread more entertaining by losing their cool in the middle of what is otherwise the most mundane of discussions.

 

[fsufan]

In short, hell no.

Testosterone medication may boost risk of heart attack, stroke, death

The new research found that among 8,709 older men who were assessed for the possibility of blocked arteries, those taking testosterone were 30% more likely to suffer an adverse event -- a stroke, a heart attack or death.

Just wait till the prostate studies come out in 10 years. It will probably help solve the middle class problem, by killing them off.

Just a purely intuitive level, we all know how powerful testosterone is. It's very difficult for me to believe that any long-term good is going to come from injecting yourself with something like this. It won't be surprising at all when medical studies get caught up.

before than sucking down cigs or alcohol for 30 to 40 years everyday.

 

[fsufan]

you can read all the #### online you want but you have no idea what injectable test will do for you till you try it.

 

[matuski]

you can read all the #### online you want but you have no idea what injectable test will do for you till you try it.

Indeed, unfortunately I'm more concerned with what it will do to me.

 

[Spike]

Concerns.. body stops producing Testosterone on its own and you are hooked on this stuff for life.

There seem to only be a couple studies with very small "n" numbers. A large study in progress. For or against seems to be largely speculative at this point?

Bingo.

 

[Da Guru]

Load up on the T and get 10 good years and call it a season. Kind of like ex-NFL players.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Concerns.. body stops producing Testosterone on its own and you are hooked on this stuff for life.

There seem to only be a couple studies with very small "n" numbers. A large study in progress. For or against seems to be largely speculative at this point?

Bingo.

From what I've read, the body only stops producing what testosterone it produces for so long as you continue treatment. And you can supplement with Clomid to alleviate that concern somewhat.

I think there's a distinction to be made between people with clinically low T-levels investigating treatment and people who are just looking for pick me up.

I've been borderline low-T for years. A bit above 300 if I'm in shape and below if I'm fat. I feel like crap. I have no energy. If I get in shape, I have a bit more energy, but still don't feel great. I've still never pulled the trigger because I've been involved in IVF. But for me, treatment would be to get me into the normal range. Something like 600. I don't need to start benching 350lbs. I'd settle for being able to think in complete sentences before 11AM and not being crabby all the time.

 

[fsufan]

. And you can supplement with Clomid to alleviate that concern somewhat.

I used clomid. it will boost your natty test levels

 

[cstu]

. And you can supplement with Clomid to alleviate that concern somewhat.

I used clomid. it will boost your natty test levels

Thanks, good one!

 

[Keerock]

179

You 60 years old?

Appears so. Looking into Androgel treatment prescribed by doc. Not covered by insurance... not happy about the side effects.

What are the side effects? Also, if you'd post your results from the therapy in here, that'd be awesome as more and more of us get older and this becomes something we should be aware of.

Good luck.

I will post for sure, if I am able to get it covered. I should know by the end of the week.

Long list of side effects... just like any other drug they scare the crap out of you to save themselves a future lawsuit. Some of those listed include:

Headaches

Acne

High Blood Pressure

Prostate Issues (enlargement, increased risk of cancer)

Itching/Rash/Dryness at Application Site

Started using Androgel on Saturday, so I applied my 3rd dose this morning. Can't say I feel any different yet. I think I'm trying too hard to find a different feeling or notice a side effect. I'll make sure to post any experiences related to the treatment as they occur.

 

[derek19]

I've been on T treatment since the beginning of July and i'm only 29 years old. I go through Ageless Mens Health for my injections.

I went back in June to have blood work done to see where my levels were at. In the morning it was 410 and in the late afternoon it was dropping off to 350. In August they took blood again and I was around 930 but my estrogen level was high. In the 60's or something like that. So they started me on estrogen blocker and I've felt great since. From what I've read and what they told me, I should be between 700 to 800. Tomorrow when I go get my shot, they will draw blood again just to check and make sure my levels are still within the range they want me to be in.

 

[Keerock]

179

You 60 years old?

Appears so. Looking into Androgel treatment prescribed by doc. Not covered by insurance... not happy about the side effects.

What are the side effects? Also, if you'd post your results from the therapy in here, that'd be awesome as more and more of us get older and this becomes something we should be aware of.

Good luck.

I will post for sure, if I am able to get it covered. I should know by the end of the week.

Long list of side effects... just like any other drug they scare the crap out of you to save themselves a future lawsuit. Some of those listed include:

Headaches

Acne

High Blood Pressure

Prostate Issues (enlargement, increased risk of cancer)

Itching/Rash/Dryness at Application Site

Started using Androgel on Saturday, so I applied my 3rd dose this morning. Can't say I feel any different yet. I think I'm trying too hard to find a different feeling or notice a side effect. I'll make sure to post any experiences related to the treatment as they occur.

Just over a week in. The only difference I'm feeling right now is that I'm extra horny. Low libido was one of the only Low-T symptoms I did not have. So now I'm a hornier, fatigued middle aged guy with decreasing muscle tone. :confetti:

In all fairness... they do say that it can take from 2-8 weeks to notice any improvement in symptoms.

 

[jon_mx]

I've been on T treatment since the beginning of July and i'm only 29 years old. I go through Ageless Mens Health for my injections.

I went back in June to have blood work done to see where my levels were at. In the morning it was 410 and in the late afternoon it was dropping off to 350. In August they took blood again and I was around 930 but my estrogen level was high. In the 60's or something like that. So they started me on estrogen blocker and I've felt great since. From what I've read and what they told me, I should be between 700 to 800. Tomorrow when I go get my shot, they will draw blood again just to check and make sure my levels are still within the range they want me to be in.

She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,

She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,

She swallowed the spider to catch the fly

 

[culdeus]

I've been on T treatment since the beginning of July and i'm only 29 years old. I go through Ageless Mens Health for my injections.

I went back in June to have blood work done to see where my levels were at. In the morning it was 410 and in the late afternoon it was dropping off to 350. In August they took blood again and I was around 930 but my estrogen level was high. In the 60's or something like that. So they started me on estrogen blocker and I've felt great since. From what I've read and what they told me, I should be between 700 to 800. Tomorrow when I go get my shot, they will draw blood again just to check and make sure my levels are still within the range they want me to be in.

She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,

She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,

She swallowed the spider to catch the fly

Yeah, this is bad. Are you actually seeing a MD? You could be really ####### yourself up.

 

[Bull Dozier]

179

You 60 years old?

Appears so. Looking into Androgel treatment prescribed by doc. Not covered by insurance... not happy about the side effects.

What are the side effects? Also, if you'd post your results from the therapy in here, that'd be awesome as more and more of us get older and this becomes something we should be aware of.

Good luck.

I will post for sure, if I am able to get it covered. I should know by the end of the week.

Long list of side effects... just like any other drug they scare the crap out of you to save themselves a future lawsuit. Some of those listed include:

Headaches

Acne

High Blood Pressure

Prostate Issues (enlargement, increased risk of cancer)

Itching/Rash/Dryness at Application Site

Started using Androgel on Saturday, so I applied my 3rd dose this morning. Can't say I feel any different yet. I think I'm trying too hard to find a different feeling or notice a side effect. I'll make sure to post any experiences related to the treatment as they occur.

Just over a week in. The only difference I'm feeling right now is that I'm extra horny. Low libido was one of the only Low-T symptoms I did not have. So now I'm a hornier, fatigued middle aged guy with decreasing muscle tone. :confetti:

In all fairness... they do say that it can take from 2-8 weeks to notice any improvement in symptoms.

I'll be following your experience. I'm too chicken of the side effects to follow through myself. I took the cheap route and just ordered the Men's Health "magic beans for testosterone boosting" book (not the exact title). We can compare results.

 

[Big Cat]

179

You 60 years old?

Appears so. Looking into Androgel treatment prescribed by doc. Not covered by insurance... not happy about the side effects.

What are the side effects? Also, if you'd post your results from the therapy in here, that'd be awesome as more and more of us get older and this becomes something we should be aware of.

Good luck.

I will post for sure, if I am able to get it covered. I should know by the end of the week.

Long list of side effects... just like any other drug they scare the crap out of you to save themselves a future lawsuit. Some of those listed include:

Headaches

Acne

High Blood Pressure

Prostate Issues (enlargement, increased risk of cancer)

Itching/Rash/Dryness at Application Site

Started using Androgel on Saturday, so I applied my 3rd dose this morning. Can't say I feel any different yet. I think I'm trying too hard to find a different feeling or notice a side effect. I'll make sure to post any experiences related to the treatment as they occur.

Just over a week in. The only difference I'm feeling right now is that I'm extra horny. Low libido was one of the only Low-T symptoms I did not have. So now I'm a hornier, fatigued middle aged guy with decreasing muscle tone. :confetti:

In all fairness... they do say that it can take from 2-8 weeks to notice any improvement in symptoms.

I'll be following your experience. I'm too chicken of the side effects to follow through myself. I took the cheap route and just ordered the Men's Health "magic beans for testosterone boosting" book (not the exact title). We can compare results.

I figure with all the drugs I've swallowed from all sorts of nefarious sources over the years, the least of my worries should be testosterone therapy.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I've been on T treatment since the beginning of July and i'm only 29 years old. I go through Ageless Mens Health for my injections.

I went back in June to have blood work done to see where my levels were at. In the morning it was 410 and in the late afternoon it was dropping off to 350. In August they took blood again and I was around 930 but my estrogen level was high. In the 60's or something like that. So they started me on estrogen blocker and I've felt great since. From what I've read and what they told me, I should be between 700 to 800. Tomorrow when I go get my shot, they will draw blood again just to check and make sure my levels are still within the range they want me to be in.

She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,

She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,

She swallowed the spider to catch the fly

Yeah, this is bad. Are you actually seeing a MD? You could be really ####### yourself up.

Estrogen blocking is pretty common with testosterone treatments, from what I've read.

 

[Bull Dozier]

179

You 60 years old?

Appears so. Looking into Androgel treatment prescribed by doc. Not covered by insurance... not happy about the side effects.

What are the side effects? Also, if you'd post your results from the therapy in here, that'd be awesome as more and more of us get older and this becomes something we should be aware of.

Good luck.

I will post for sure, if I am able to get it covered. I should know by the end of the week.

Long list of side effects... just like any other drug they scare the crap out of you to save themselves a future lawsuit. Some of those listed include:

Headaches

Acne

High Blood Pressure

Prostate Issues (enlargement, increased risk of cancer)

Itching/Rash/Dryness at Application Site

Started using Androgel on Saturday, so I applied my 3rd dose this morning. Can't say I feel any different yet. I think I'm trying too hard to find a different feeling or notice a side effect. I'll make sure to post any experiences related to the treatment as they occur.

Just over a week in. The only difference I'm feeling right now is that I'm extra horny. Low libido was one of the only Low-T symptoms I did not have. So now I'm a hornier, fatigued middle aged guy with decreasing muscle tone. :confetti:

In all fairness... they do say that it can take from 2-8 weeks to notice any improvement in symptoms.

I'll be following your experience. I'm too chicken of the side effects to follow through myself. I took the cheap route and just ordered the Men's Health "magic beans for testosterone boosting" book (not the exact title). We can compare results.

I figure with all the drugs I've swallowed from all sorts of nefarious sources over the years, the least of my worries should be testosterone therapy.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I've never ingested drugs from nefarious sources, so I'm able to be so flippant about the possible side effects.

 

[Keerock]

3 weeks in. Horny as a Mother ####er!

Really no other differences, although I did notice a couple of zits this weekend which is supposedly a side effect.

 

[Big Cat]

Any urge to go out and buy a Trans Am?

 

[Keerock]

Any urge to go out and buy a Trans Am?

No. But thanks for the pic :boner:

 

[Judge Smails]

Getting tested tomorrow am......

 

[Keerock]

Getting tested tomorrow am......

 

[saintfool]

3 weeks in. Horny as a Mother ####er!

Really no other differences, although I did notice a couple of zits this weekend which is supposedly a side effect.

is this happening to you?

 

[Keerock]

3 weeks in. Horny as a Mother ####er!

Really no other differences, although I did notice a couple of zits this weekend which is supposedly a side effect.

is this happening to you?

I don't get it?

 

[saintfool]

3 weeks in. Horny as a Mother ####er!

Really no other differences, although I did notice a couple of zits this weekend which is supposedly a side effect.

is this happening to you?

I don't get it?

Because of your man-hormones, are you getting a skeevy moustache like Broderick there?

 

[Keerock]

3 weeks in. Horny as a Mother ####er!

Really no other differences, although I did notice a couple of zits this weekend which is supposedly a side effect.

is this happening to you?

I don't get it?

Because of your man-hormones, are you getting a skeevy moustache like Broderick there?

Oh,

Sadly, my Aryan ancestry has doomed any chance of a decent mustache...

 

[cosjobs]

Concerns.. body stops producing Testosterone on its own and you are hooked on this stuff for life.

There seem to only be a couple studies with very small "n" numbers. A large study in progress. For or against seems to be largely speculative at this point?

Bingo.

From what I've read, the body only stops producing what testosterone it produces for so long as you continue treatment. And you can supplement with Clomid to alleviate that concern somewhat.

I think there's a distinction to be made between people with clinically low T-levels investigating treatment and people who are just looking for pick me up.

I've been borderline low-T for years. A bit above 300 if I'm in shape and below if I'm fat. I feel like crap. I have no energy. If I get in shape, I have a bit more energy, but still don't feel great. I've still never pulled the trigger because I've been involved in IVF. But for me, treatment would be to get me into the normal range. Something like 600. I don't need to start benching 350lbs. I'd settle for being able to think in complete sentences before 11AM and not being crabby all the time.

You might check out Modafinil. I take half a pill a few times a week and those days are productive enough to cover the other ones.

 

[fsufan]

Concerns.. body stops producing Testosterone on its own and you are hooked on this stuff for life.

There seem to only be a couple studies with very small "n" numbers. A large study in progress. For or against seems to be largely speculative at this point?

Bingo.

you will get shutdown, meaning your body will stop making it own test while you are injecting test. and you balls can shrink if you are on a along time, I have experience this. you can take HCG while on to help with that. clomid(plus some natty test booster like DAA) will help bring your natty test levels back once you decided to get off test. read that us guys start to lose 2% every year of our natty test at the age of 25. if your body is not going to produce test then why not inject some. I have been on test since march and it has changed me. I feel like I am 20 again

 

[fsufan]

3 weeks in. Horny as a Mother ####er!

Really no other differences, although I did notice a couple of zits this weekend which is supposedly a side effect.

my libido did the same thing. it was crazy at times. could have went 2/3 times a day with no problem and I am 42. it finally leveled out and it is good now.

 

[James Daulton]

Any changes in body composition like less fat storage, more muscle, etc? Also, what's the long term plan for this type of treatment? Do you cycle on and off?

 

[fsufan]

Any changes in body composition like less fat storage, more muscle, etc? Also, what's the long term plan for this type of treatment? Do you cycle on and off?

You will see a body recomp, lose fat gian muscle as long as the weight training and diet are spot on. I blast and cruise. Higher test for blast for 12 weeks then less test test for cruise for 12 weeks. You can cycle

 

[Bull Dozier]

179

You 60 years old?

Appears so. Looking into Androgel treatment prescribed by doc. Not covered by insurance... not happy about the side effects.

What are the side effects? Also, if you'd post your results from the therapy in here, that'd be awesome as more and more of us get older and this becomes something we should be aware of.

Good luck.

I will post for sure, if I am able to get it covered. I should know by the end of the week.

Long list of side effects... just like any other drug they scare the crap out of you to save themselves a future lawsuit. Some of those listed include:

Headaches

Acne

High Blood Pressure

Prostate Issues (enlargement, increased risk of cancer)

Itching/Rash/Dryness at Application Site

Started using Androgel on Saturday, so I applied my 3rd dose this morning. Can't say I feel any different yet. I think I'm trying too hard to find a different feeling or notice a side effect. I'll make sure to post any experiences related to the treatment as they occur.

Just over a week in. The only difference I'm feeling right now is that I'm extra horny. Low libido was one of the only Low-T symptoms I did not have. So now I'm a hornier, fatigued middle aged guy with decreasing muscle tone. :confetti:

In all fairness... they do say that it can take from 2-8 weeks to notice any improvement in symptoms.

I'll be following your experience. I'm too chicken of the side effects to follow through myself. I took the cheap route and just ordered the Men's Health "magic beans for testosterone boosting" book (not the exact title). We can compare results.

Just to update this, I'm about 2.5 chapters in, and can summarize the book so far thusly: exercise, eat high protein, lower carbs, good healthy fats....and see your doctor about testosterone therapy.

 

[saintfool]

Getting tested tomorrow am......

So I went to my doc to plan a minor hernia surgery earlier this week. I asked him to do the T test while I was there. Came back borderline for my age. I'd prefer to handle this through change of diet and exercise but the hernia has made that tricky. He says he'll give a script for Androgel, if I want it, but I think i will wait until after my surgery to see how I feel. I am hoping that getting back to a regular exercise regimen will do the trick and restore my levels.

 

[Keerock]

I'm 10 weeks in. Not seeing any differences, and my libido is back to where it was pre-treatment (still a horny old man, but that first month on treatment was out of control)

Scheduling appt with doc to have levels checked to see if my dosage needs to be upped.

 

[Rattle and Hum]

Went to a compounding pharmacy today. They said they could do lower-end of prescription strength for $60/month. Any experience with compounded variety of the gel? thx

 

[SteevieG]

This is interesting. I had mine tested when they took blood about 3-1/2 years ago and these were the results:

TESTOSTERONE FREE 35.0 - 155.0 pg/mL 71.3

TESTOSTERONE FREE % 1.50 - 2.20 % 1.15

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL 250 - 1100 ng/dL 620

I haven't been to the doctor since then, but I need to as I'm 51 years old. I see the FREE % is low and I would imagine all of these totals/percentages have gone down since 2009.

 

[Keerock]

This is interesting. I had mine tested when they took blood about 3-1/2 years ago and these were the results:

TESTOSTERONE FREE 35.0 - 155.0 pg/mL 71.3

TESTOSTERONE FREE % 1.50 - 2.20 % 1.15

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL 250 - 1100 ng/dL 620

I haven't been to the doctor since then, but I need to as I'm 51 years old. I see the FREE % is low and I would imagine all of these totals/percentages have gone down since 2009.

I'd kill for a 620. I supplement daily and just had a 390 reading.

 

[saintfool]

i discontinued the treatment after trying it for 3 months. i didn't feel like it helped me with much of anything. i decided this after my double-hernia surgery in April. i have a container of the gel sitting in my medicine cabinet. i'd rather not toss it in the garbage. anyone want it? pm me.

 

[Sabertooth]

Any updates here? Considering going to get checked. I've read that it is important to monitor estradiol as well as testosterone. I have several indicators of Low T. Do I just go to a urologist? I don't know of any low-t clinics within 120 miles of me.