Texans Release David Carr (1 Viewer)

[Rozelle]

Carr is on the waiver wire now correct? Of is just available to first come first served?

I think that until he clears waivers, any team that picks him up has to honor his current contract. Meaning he will clear waivers. Then he is a free agent to negotiate with anyone.

March 23, 2007, 4:38PMOfficially out: Carr released by Texans

By JOHN MCCLAIN

Copyright 2007 Houston Chronic

After weeks of trying to get a draft choice for quarterback David Carr, the Texans released the five-year veteran, making him an unrestricted free agent who can sign with any team in the league.

 

[twistd]

Carr is on the waiver wire now correct? Of is just available to first come first served?

I think that until he clears waivers, any team that picks him up has to honor his current contract. Meaning he will clear waivers. Then he is a free agent to negotiate with anyone.

March 23, 2007, 4:38PMOfficially out: Carr released by Texans

By JOHN MCCLAIN

Copyright 2007 Houston Chronic

After weeks of trying to get a draft choice for quarterback David Carr, the Texans released the five-year veteran, making him an unrestricted free agent who can sign with any team in the league.

That must be why he doesn't have to clear waivers, because he is a five year player.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I think Houston is pretty much a cluster F%$& being ran by monkeys or something. First, they commit all that money to Carr last year and say he's their man. Then they pass on VY AND BUSH! Then they give a DE with degenerative foot problems #1 pick moolah. And now they cut their supposed QB of the "present and future". Top that off with giving up a higher #1, and two 2nd rounders for an unproven, unimpressive backup Qb in Schaub! Man that 50% completion percentage with that 50% TD/INT ratio is pri-ttee impressive. They deserve to mire in the muck...morons.

POTT.This is truly the crux of the matter.

 

[wannabee]

http://www.startribune.com/510/story/1076522.html

Vikings work hard at staying in shape

By Kevin Seifert, Star Tribune

Last update: March 23, 2007 – 9:49 PM

Players spent the past 2 ½ months working out on their own, and Childress said they were responsible for maintaining their own weight and cardiovascular condition. Asked what shape most players reported in, Childress said: "I haven't seen any horrendous, sloppy guys."

Etc.

• The Vikings have made casual inquiries about free-agent receiver Eric Moulds, released earlier this month by Houston. Moulds, 33, has 732 career receptions for the Texans and Buffalo Bills.

• The Vikings told the agent for Houston quarterback David Carr, who was waived Friday, that they are not interested in signing him. They plan to enter training camp with Tarvaris Jackson and Brooks Bollinger competing for the starting job.

• Childress' offseason depth chart includes Artis Hicks as the first-team right guard and Ryan Cook as the top right tackle, the Vikings' arrangement for the final three games of last season. Childress said he expects Anthony Herrera to compete with Hicks at right guard and Marcus Johnson to share time with Cook at right tackle during mini-camp drills.

• The Vikings' mandatory minicamp is scheduled for June 1-3. Their final Organized Team Activity (OTA) will occur June 19.

Judd Zulgad contributed to this report.

Kevin Seifert • kseifert@startribune.com

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

If the Detroit Lions could get a draft pick for Joe Harrington, surely the Texans could have gotten something for Carr, no?

Based on the contract that Carr had no. No one wants to honour the contract that he had. I'd think that Carr will sign either a 1-year deal, show off his talents, be an UFA again and then make big bucks..... or sign as a 2 or 3 yr contract with a team that he feels he has a very good chance to be the starter. Based on that, he should look to sign with the Vikings, Browns, Oakland or San Fran.

 

[BlackHole]

If the Detroit Lions could get a draft pick for Joe Harrington, surely the Texans could have gotten something for Carr, no?

Based on the contract that Carr had no. No one wants to honour the contract that he had. I'd think that Carr will sign either a 1-year deal, show off his talents, be an UFA again and then make big bucks..... or sign as a 2 or 3 yr contract with a team that he feels he has a very good chance to be the starter. Based on that, he should look to sign with the Vikings, Browns, Oakland or San Fran.

I agree with this, other then San Francisco. SF has no intentions of bringin in Carr IMHO. I'd also add in Miami. In fact, I'd like Carr to come to Oakland (giving us more freedom in the draft), but I see him going to Miami and Culpepper getting cut.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

If the Detroit Lions could get a draft pick for Joe Harrington, surely the Texans could have gotten something for Carr, no?

Based on the contract that Carr had no. No one wants to honour the contract that he had. I'd think that Carr will sign either a 1-year deal, show off his talents, be an UFA again and then make big bucks..... or sign as a 2 or 3 yr contract with a team that he feels he has a very good chance to be the starter. Based on that, he should look to sign with the Vikings, Browns, Oakland or San Fran.

I agree with this, other then San Francisco. SF has no intentions of bringin in Carr IMHO. I'd also add in Miami. In fact, I'd like Carr to come to Oakland (giving us more freedom in the draft), but I see him going to Miami and Culpepper getting cut.

I don't see Miami moving on him this year. I expect them to give Culpepper a solid chance this year (assuming his knee is better). And they still have Harrington, no?What about the J-E-T-S Jets! Jets! Jets!? I think New York would eat Carr's heart from his chest, but its a possibility.I'm still guessing the Rrrrrrraiders.

 

[twistd]

If the Detroit Lions could get a draft pick for Joe Harrington, surely the Texans could have gotten something for Carr, no?

Based on the contract that Carr had no. No one wants to honour the contract that he had. I'd think that Carr will sign either a 1-year deal, show off his talents, be an UFA again and then make big bucks..... or sign as a 2 or 3 yr contract with a team that he feels he has a very good chance to be the starter. Based on that, he should look to sign with the Vikings, Browns, Oakland or San Fran.

I agree with this, other then San Francisco. SF has no intentions of bringin in Carr IMHO. I'd also add in Miami. In fact, I'd like Carr to come to Oakland (giving us more freedom in the draft), but I see him going to Miami and Culpepper getting cut.

I believe that in a new place Carr might just flourish. Obviously, the investment to get him is minimal now. However, I thought both Culpepper and Harrington had a chance to do well in their new location. We haven't seen much from them. So perhaps I'm just an idiot.

 

[BigRed]

ESPN reporting he has been released.Very nice move for Carr - Texans should have gotten SOMETHING............

that's laughable . . .a person has to have value in order for someone to want him . . .which team would give up a draft pick for him??Obviously, no one . . .

Obviously, lol...........

This probably works well for everyone. Carr will have to take a big pay cut from his original contract but he can now seek out a new contract for less money but choose a team with a good situation for himself.

Translation: any team not named the Raiders. I'm sure he wants - and contrary to popular belief IMO deserves, at least to some extent - a starting job, but the list of potential teams is small, so if he doesn't want to sit out the year he may have to face that it aint happening right now. Sadly, his best shots (eg CLE, MIA) have similar issues, although I'd take even their OLs over HOU's.

Only people that don't follow the team think their line is bad. Its not great, but its not bad.

Yes, it is. Run blocking is OK but pass protection-wise, it is and has been pathetic his entire career.

We're dealing with a pretty small sample size, but it's not insignificant, either.

Frankly, yeah it is. Classic example of how you can make stats say just about anything you want.

I don't understand why people are down on him. For one thing he has been on his back his entire career. Other then Andre Johnson he has had no one to throw the ball too. Teams need a running game to open up the passing game and Carr hasn't had that. Domanick Williams is always hurt and he started with James Allen as the starter from Chicago.

Oh there you go throwing facts n stuff out there. I'm not saying Carr is faultless or would be Manning-like behind a great OL/offense, but yeah IMO he gets way too much blame on a pathetic team which offers him precious little support.

 

[dparker713]

Only people that don't follow the team think their line is bad. Its not great, but its not bad.

Yes, it is. Run blocking is OK but pass protection-wise, it is and has been pathetic his entire career.

No, it isnt. They gave up 43 sacks last year, thats middle of the pack. Not pathetic. Its a fairly young line and they've added depth this offseason. On a team full of problems, the Oline is not a top priority.

 

[kingmalaki]

The Texans really blew it on this Carr thing. If they were gonna make a QB change it should have been last year, when 3 stud prospects were on the board.

 

[Bob Magaw]

another reason i could see it being DET...

with all his problems, its not like lions were tearing it up record wise with either harrington or kitna... carr could very possibly be an upgrade at the position...

though it may not seem like his MO (martz has had success with low pedigree QBs & re-treads like warner, bulger & kitna), he might view it as a challenge to turn his career around... it probably isn't martz's call, but his input could be weighed heavily as he is viewed as an offensive mastermind, & HC marinelli's fate could be partly tied up with how offense does (ie - one more awful year & no guarantee he retains his job)... this is obviously contingent on martz thinking carr would be an upgrade (i doubt he is twisted enough to put team in worse position for chance to position himself to look good later)... if martz did ressurect carr's career & a moribund offense at same time, & contribute to elevating the teams overall record & fortunes, it could increase his visibility for potential future HC consideration... maybe that it a little elaborate, & more direct way to look at it would just be to acknowledge that he could do that just by winning period, with kitna or carr... but it might be even more attention getting & noticeable with carr...

 

[TwinTurbo]

another reason i could see it being DET...with all his problems, its not like lions were tearing it up record wise with either harrington or kitna... carr could very possibly be an upgrade at the position...though it may not seem like his MO (martz has had success with low pedigree QBs & re-treads like warner, bulger & kitna), he might view it as a challenge to turn his career around... it probably isn't martz's call, but his input could be weighed heavily as he is viewed as an offensive mastermind, & HC marinelli's fate could be partly tied up with how offense does (ie - one more awful year & no guarantee he retains his job)... this is obviously contingent on martz thinking carr would be an upgrade (i doubt he is twisted enough to put team in worse position for chance to position himself to look good later)... if martz did ressurect carr's career & a moribund offense at same time, & contribute to elevating the teams overall record & fortunes, it could increase his visibility for potential future HC consideration... maybe that it a little elaborate, & more direct way to look at it would just be to acknowledge that he could do that just by winning period, with kitna or carr... but it might be even more attention getting & noticeable with carr...

I also wouldn't mind seeing Carr end up in Detroit. That would settle the discussion around him once and for all. If Martz couldn't get anything out of him, then he could be officially be considered a bust and would have no more excuses. I believe Carr has already proven he is not a Franchise QB, but I would like to see what Martz could do with him. He would be an upgrade over Harrington, but he seems to lack some of the leadership qualities that Kitna brings to the table. Kitna is no world beater either, but he's a solid fill-in until the Lions find a true #1.

 

[Rozelle]

3 teams who are looking to upgrade at the QB position, ironically rank 1 2 and 3 in most sacks allowed last season.

Oakland (72)

Detroit (63)

Cleveland (54)

Of the 3, Cleveland may be the best fit for Carr, in terms of being able to protect him. They are the only one of the three who adressed the O-line in free agency, by signing Seth McKinney and Eric Steinbach.

I do not think Carr will have a chance to turn it around if goes somewhere with line issues like he has had all his career. I will acknowledge, the O-line he played with last year was the best he's had.

 

[KarmaPolice]

ESPN reporting he has been released.Very nice move for Carr - Texans should have gotten SOMETHING............

that's laughable . . .a person has to have value in order for someone to want him . . .which team would give up a draft pick for him??Obviously, no one . . .

The QB always gets all the blame. How the that ####ty O line

Is that the same one that fat ron dayne averaged 5.3 ypc behind? 5.8 ypc over the last 5 games where carr had 1 TD and 5 INT's. That ####ty o-line? Just asking.

HUGE difference b/t a line being able to run block and a line being able to pass protect. It is possible to be good at one and not the other.

 

[stevegamer]

I hope Schaub learned some of Vicks moves....with that O-line he's gonna need it......maybe they can spend of few of their picks this year on a couple of O-lineman.

Only people that don't follow the team think their line is bad. Its not great, but its not bad.

So, 249 sacks in 5 years were all his fault?

Well, in 2005 they gave up 68 sacks, in 2006 it was 43 - T23rd. Not good, but again not horrible. If Spencer returns, they'll have 2 second year starters and solid depth for the first time in the franchise history. So yes, the line needs to improve, but on a team that is overall bad, it wasn't a true weak spot.

The Texans have a relatively mediocre pass-blocking line - 23rd out of 32 is not good overall. It's relatively a good line for them, since they have absolutely sucked as pass blocking for 5 years. The point I am trying to make is this:If you give Carr & the Texans a mulligan for the first season - Carr has been sacked at the same rate as the other QB's on the team.

Anyone who thinks Carr is the driving force behind this problem needs their head examined - he may be part of the problem along with Banks, Rosenfels, etc all being bad at avoiding the sack, but the frankly the OL has stunk over the entire Texans history.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the OL gel this year in year 2 of Kubiak's system and for people to think it's Schaub > Carr that is causing the change. As mentioned they finally seem to have some sort of depth, and some returning young guys.

 

[Riffraff]

I can see him signing in Carrolina (pun intended).

I got at least one thing right this year.