Thanks for ruining my team Mr Snyder (1 Viewer)

[2Squirrels1Nut]

Everyone's moaning over this guaranteed $40M. For me as a 'Skins fan, my reaction is, "So what?" Even if McNabb never played another down, that $40M wouldn't affect anything they were doing or then had to do in terms of personnel or operations.

Anyway, it's certainly fair to assert they got poor bang for their buck, but if you're arguing financial ramifications for the team due to guaranteed money, don't. It just doesn't apply to this team . . . which may lead to a lack of accountability for stupid personnel decisions that is part of their problem.

Agreed. The contract amount doesn't hurt the team. You can make a valid argument, though, that the trading of a 2nd and a 4th round pick for him hurt the team since they need so much rebuilding.

Yes, that I buy.

 

[Sabertooth]

wish we had Vick instead... but so do 30 other teams in the NFL.

Not Green Bay

 

[Johnny Ice]

Has an NFL team ever been stuck with two worse contracts than the Redskins with McNabb/Haynesworth? Maybe there have been bigger single contracts (Jake Delhomme comes to mind), but I don't think anything could ever top the 1-2 punch of Donovan & Albert.

It's $81 million in guaranteed money. And neither player will be anywhere close to a Pro Bowler in 2 years.

The commentators were saying how the deal is incentive laden, weren't they? I think they said he's only guaranteed something like 10 Mill? If that's the case, it's not a terrible deal for an above-average QB. People are living in the moment but McNabb isn't terrible and I don't think the 'Skins would be at .500 without him.

$40 million guaranteed.

XIf the deal was really 40 mil guaranteed, like Mort and many others have said McNabb would have signed the day it was laid in front of him. It has been on the table for a long time. People are going ape #### over this 40 mil and it's been said over and over the Skins can get out of the deal as early as one year. Bruce Allen does not equal Vinny Cerrato.

Ok, I didn't read that. Do you have a link?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5809694"Sources familiar with the situation told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that the contract had been on the table for weeks and the two sides nearly finalized the deal before the Redskins played the Eagles in Philadelphia in Week 4."

 

[fatness]

"Sources familiar with the situation told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that the contract had been on the table for weeks and the two sides nearly finalized the deal before the Redskins played the Eagles in Philadelphia in Week 4."

What changed recently in the negotiations was the amount of guaranteed money.

 

[Johnny Ice]

"Sources familiar with the situation told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that the contract had been on the table for weeks and the two sides nearly finalized the deal before the Redskins played the Eagles in Philadelphia in Week 4."

What changed recently in the negotiations was the amount of guaranteed money.

On First Take they just said it's only 3.5 million actually guaranteed in this deal. The Skins have an escape clause at the end of this season. Bruce Allen is smart with the money.

 

[fatness]

My personal opinion is that every report so far of contact terms involving the amount of guaranteed money is either guesswork or agent exaggeration, and likely wrong.

 

[Johnny Ice]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5812371

2010: $3.5 million signing bonus/$250,000 if active eight games

• 2011: $10 million option bonus/$2.5 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2012: $12.75 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2013: $13 million salary/$1.5 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2014: $13.75 million salary/$3 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2015: $13.55 million salary/$2.25 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

 

[Chaka]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5812371

2010: $3.5 million signing bonus/$250,000 if active eight games

• 2011: $10 million option bonus/$2.5 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2012: $12.75 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2013: $13 million salary/$1.5 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2014: $13.75 million salary/$3 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2015: $13.55 million salary/$2.25 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

Is Vegas setting odds on whether McNabb will see that 2011 option bonus?

 

[fatness]

Thanks, I hadn't seen that one yet.

One of the contract's most significant points is a payment due this offseason, when the Redskins must decide whether or not to pay McNabb a $10 million option bonus. If they do, it would trigger the rest of the contract and make Washington liable for McNabb's $2.5 million base salary in 2011.So in essence, the Redskins paid McNabb $3.75 million in 2010 for the right to pay him $12.5 million in 2011 and control his rights. If the Redskins cut him after this season or trade him, they are only on the hook for the $3.75 million.

I wonder if each subsequent season is like that --- an offseason payment at the team's option which triggers guarantees for that season?

 

[Chaka]

Thanks, I hadn't seen that one yet.

One of the contract's most significant points is a payment due this offseason, when the Redskins must decide whether or not to pay McNabb a $10 million option bonus. If they do, it would trigger the rest of the contract and make Washington liable for McNabb's $2.5 million base salary in 2011.So in essence, the Redskins paid McNabb $3.75 million in 2010 for the right to pay him $12.5 million in 2011 and control his rights. If the Redskins cut him after this season or trade him, they are only on the hook for the $3.75 million.

I wonder if each subsequent season is like that --- an offseason payment at the team's option which triggers guarantees for that season?

Not according to Ice's post. The only option listed is 2011. I say that barring an incredible turn around in production in 2010 there is no way they pay that and if McNabb wants to remain a Redskin he will have to renegotiate.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Thanks, I hadn't seen that one yet.

One of the contract's most significant points is a payment due this offseason, when the Redskins must decide whether or not to pay McNabb a $10 million option bonus. If they do, it would trigger the rest of the contract and make Washington liable for McNabb's $2.5 million base salary in 2011.So in essence, the Redskins paid McNabb $3.75 million in 2010 for the right to pay him $12.5 million in 2011 and control his rights. If the Redskins cut him after this season or trade him, they are only on the hook for the $3.75 million.

I wonder if each subsequent season is like that --- an offseason payment at the team's option which triggers guarantees for that season?

Wow. So they're not really on the hook for anything. Good move.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Not saying Snyder is a great owner, but I'd trade the Yorks for him in a heartbeat.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5812371

2010: $3.5 million signing bonus/$250,000 if active eight games

• 2011: $10 million option bonus/$2.5 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2012: $12.75 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2013: $13 million salary/$1.5 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2014: $13.75 million salary/$3 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2015: $13.55 million salary/$2.25 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

Ok, now it makes more sense.

 

[VaTerp]

I bet they cut McNabb this week and burn the 40 million. Classic Redskins!

maybe they can draft 3 wr with there 1st round picks for the next 3 years to.

at Lions fans talking trash.

Well the Skins are looking at a string of 7-9 seasons, and have won how many playoff games in the past ten years? Last division championship was when? You are also sitting on perhaps the worst newer professional sports stadium, that place is awful. Good luck to you and yours.

A string of 7-9 seasons? Maybe but I won't predict the future and that would still be better than the average Lions season. Last division championship was 1999. Not good but obviously more recent than the Lions.As for the stadium, yeah it sucks but it's still has the highest regular seating capacity in the NFL and it's now 13 years old so I will likely see a new one in my lifetime. Hopefully downtown.

I have no beef with the Lions. I like Schwartz as a coach and Mayhew (former Skin) as the GM. Had they not held onto Millen so long there's a good chance they would already be a playoff contender by now. And honestly, I wish Snyder would hire a young HC who is hungry to prove themselves and not a rehash who is simply looking for the quick fix to pad their legacy. That's all part of the frustration that lifelong Skins fans have with Snyder's ownership.

But I will still at Lions fans coming into this thread and acting like they have some base in their voice. Certainly I like the direction of the Lions better than the Skins right now but let's keep things in perspective here.

Good luck to you and yours.