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I don't think you need to IMO.For reading World War Z, should you read his first book (The Zombie Survival Guide) first?
I don't think you need to IMO.For reading World War Z, should you read his first book (The Zombie Survival Guide) first?
I was going to post this but I think the first 9 books are good (on Demonoid if anyone wants to read them). After that it really goes downhill with more emphasis on sci-fi. Great series but don't expect to read all 29 books. Just found out Jerry died a couple of weeks ago. :(Survivalist by Jerry Ahern (books 1-5 were really entertaining in a fluffy way. STOP THERE! DO NOT READ THE REST OF THE BOOKS!)
Swan Song is excellent. It is also on Audible now and they did a great job. I enjoyed listening to it as much as reading it. Btw if you like the author you should also read "Gone South" and "Boy's Life".
The Road is also very good. The mental battles the father goes through are incredible.
He does get into the world of "fantastic". Enjoy the Song of Fire and Ice Books? They are my favorite series. I just wish GRRM was a little quicker in putting them out.Swan Song is excellent. It is also on Audible now and they did a great job. I enjoyed listening to it as much as reading it. Btw if you like the author you should also read "Gone South" and "Boy's Life".
The Road is also very good. The mental battles the father goes through are incredible.![]()
This is what I posted to Shuke about not finishing because it was getting too fantastical. Never tried Swan Song - I'll add it to the list of other books to start if I ever get through the Song of Fire and Ice books.
Most of Turtledove's books turn into hack. The battles and technology are awesome, but when it comes to the characters, they usually end up being misogynistic superheroes.Harry Turtledove also wrote an "Alternative History" book about an EMP attack done by aliens invading Earth and starting the invasion with an EMP attack. Oh yes, and the EMP attack took place in 1943 and the story centered on WWII so that you had Nzais vs. Allies vs. Aliens and all electronics were disabled so no internal combustion engines would work. Steam power and diesel engines were the main forms of power that would still work, because there was no spark.Before I read this one, I didn't even know what an EMP was. You can tell the author has done his homework and the scenario he describes post-EMP seems very realistic to me. However, don't go into this book looking for great characterization or dialogue - it's pretty rudimentary and all of the characters are well-worn archestypes. To be fair, though, I doubt the author was going for the Great American Novel here and was just using the fiction angle to inform. Anyway, pretty fast and enjoyable read with a few "oh crap1" moments.Was just coming to post this. One Second After is short, fairly intense read on just how fast society alls apart after an apocalyptic event, especially one that simply takes away your electronics. It's very real in its narrative taking place just outside of Asheville, NC where the author actually live. Great book.http://www.onesecondafter.com/One second after is a new entry. It's based on life after an EMP, pretty sure the author pulled info from a lot of government research about what would happen if one would go off over the entire country. It reads like an updated Alas, Babylon
The whole story was very weird.
If this show isn't directly based on the "Dies the Fire" books, then it is certainly influenced by it.Was that a different book from the Lizards invasion series? They caught us in the middle of WWII, too, but I don't remember EMPs being used. Everybody still had working machinery.I've been seeing promos for a new tv series coming along called "Revolution," I think, which is supposed to be about life after the power goes out. It appears that people get skilled with swords pretty quickly.Harry Turtledove also wrote an "Alternative History" book about an EMP attack done by aliens invading Earth and starting the invasion with an EMP attack. Oh yes, and the EMP attack took place in 1943 and the story centered on WWII so that you had Nzais vs. Allies vs. Aliens and all electronics were disabled so no internal combustion engines would work. Steam power and diesel engines were the main forms of power that would still work, because there was no spark.Before I read this one, I didn't even know what an EMP was. You can tell the author has done his homework and the scenario he describes post-EMP seems very realistic to me. However, don't go into this book looking for great characterization or dialogue - it's pretty rudimentary and all of the characters are well-worn archestypes. To be fair, though, I doubt the author was going for the Great American Novel here and was just using the fiction angle to inform. Anyway, pretty fast and enjoyable read with a few "oh crap1" moments.Was just coming to post this. One Second After is short, fairly intense read on just how fast society alls apart after an apocalyptic event, especially one that simply takes away your electronics. It's very real in its narrative taking place just outside of Asheville, NC where the author actually live. Great book.http://www.onesecondafter.com/One second after is a new entry. It's based on life after an EMP, pretty sure the author pulled info from a lot of government research about what would happen if one would go off over the entire country. It reads like an updated Alas, Babylon
The whole story was very weird.
Thanks for the recommendation. Finished about 75% in 1 day. Right up my alley.The Stand is in the Top 5, no question. Anyone who doesn't get this shouldn't earn their apocalyptic novel merit badge.
Also really enjoyed One Second After, about life after an EMP attack.
In the audio version, the battle of Yonkers and any chapter dealing with that character is my favorite.In reading World War Z, I find myself really enjoying some sections, such as South/North Korea, Japan, etc., but others really drag and have me thinking he must have really been out of ideas towards the end of the book to stretch it out.
I loved it and was curious how I missed it all these years. I wouldn't consider myself literarily adventurous either. The very end was a bit tedious but I thought it was thought provoking and didn't diminish what was, up to then, a very good story.Yeah, it gets pretty irritating after awhile. I probably should have mentioned that.Damn if that isn't one boring book. People need to stop recommending it.
Yeah, but honestly I am not sure if I would have gotten this far without seeing the first season and hearing some of the names/getting a feel for the characters and places. I am usually anti anything much more than 400pgs or so, and usually don't read much that toes the line of fantasy either. I am almost 1/2 way through book 2 and still enjoying it.He does get into the world of "fantastic". Enjoy the Song of Fire and Ice Books? They are my favorite series. I just wish GRRM was a little quicker in putting them out.Swan Song is excellent. It is also on Audible now and they did a great job. I enjoyed listening to it as much as reading it. Btw if you like the author you should also read "Gone South" and "Boy's Life".
The Road is also very good. The mental battles the father goes through are incredible.![]()
This is what I posted to Shuke about not finishing because it was getting too fantastical. Never tried Swan Song - I'll add it to the list of other books to start if I ever get through the Song of Fire and Ice books.
I'm finding myself noticeably less interested about 3/4 into the book. I was very much enjoying the book early on and it's only so-so for me the last several "interviews." I'm hoping it picks back up for me again shortly.In reading World War Z, I find myself really enjoying some sections, such as South/North Korea, Japan, etc., but others really drag and have me thinking he must have really been out of ideas towards the end of the book to stretch it out.
Love in the Ruins by Walker Percy is at once the best and most unconventional. Warning: it has some non-PC terms and thoughts.The 10 Greatest Apocalyptic Novels Of All Time
World War Z - Max Brooks
Blindness - Jose Saramago
The Road - Cormac McCarthy
The Postman - David Brin
Oryx and Crake - Margaret Atwood
A Canticle for Leibowitz - Walter M. Miller
Alas, Babylon - Pat Frank
Lucifer's Hammer - Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle
Swan Song - Robert R. McCammon
On the Beach - Nevil Schute
Has anybody read any of these? Please post your opinions. Kind of surprised The Stand wasn't listed.
Exactly. It feels very much like he was just throwing things in there as filler at the end. Hey, I bet underwater would be good to fill a few pages. And then why not talk about dogs? You bet. How about we talk about how hard the French had it underground, even though they chose to be there such.I'm finding myself noticeably less interested about 3/4 into the book. I was very much enjoying the book early on and it's only so-so for me the last several "interviews." I'm hoping it picks back up for me again shortly.In reading World War Z, I find myself really enjoying some sections, such as South/North Korea, Japan, etc., but others really drag and have me thinking he must have really been out of ideas towards the end of the book to stretch it out.
Yeah, I am hoping it finishes strong. I actually ordered a few of the books on the list in the OP and have them sitting, waiting for me to read... so the thought of dropping WWZ 3/4 the way through did run through my mind. I was sort of surprised the thought even came up because I liked the start of WWZ so much. --I will power through regardless, since I'm so close, but I really am hoping my interest will sway back toward the positive for the last 40 pages or so.Exactly. It feels very much like he was just throwing things in there as filler at the end. Hey, I bet underwater would be good to fill a few pages. And then why not talk about dogs? You bet. How about we talk about how hard the French had it underground, even though they chose to be there such.I'm finding myself noticeably less interested about 3/4 into the book. I was very much enjoying the book early on and it's only so-so for me the last several "interviews." I'm hoping it picks back up for me again shortly.In reading World War Z, I find myself really enjoying some sections, such as South/North Korea, Japan, etc., but others really drag and have me thinking he must have really been out of ideas towards the end of the book to stretch it out.10% left and I am contemplating just giving it up at this point. Boring.
what'd you get? Dish! Dish!!Yeah, I am hoping it finishes strong. I actually ordered a few of the books on the list in the OP and have them sitting, waiting for me to read... so the thought of dropping WWZ 3/4 the way through did run through my mind. I was sort of surprised the thought even came up because I liked the start of WWZ so much. --I will power through regardless, since I'm so close, but I really am hoping my interest will sway back toward the positive for the last 40 pages or so.Exactly. It feels very much like he was just throwing things in there as filler at the end. Hey, I bet underwater would be good to fill a few pages. And then why not talk about dogs? You bet. How about we talk about how hard the French had it underground, even though they chose to be there such.I'm finding myself noticeably less interested about 3/4 into the book. I was very much enjoying the book early on and it's only so-so for me the last several "interviews." I'm hoping it picks back up for me again shortly.In reading World War Z, I find myself really enjoying some sections, such as South/North Korea, Japan, etc., but others really drag and have me thinking he must have really been out of ideas towards the end of the book to stretch it out.10% left and I am contemplating just giving it up at this point. Boring.
Starting off with an excuse; I assembled my purchase list before researching the FFA. I actually searched for and found this thread after my order was in… but much of it was confirmed by what I read in this thread. –I actually spent some time looking at Amazon reviews etc. before making my purchase(s). I don’t know when/if I’ll ever read them all, but I purchased:World War ZA Canticle for LeibowitzThe StandLucifer’s HammerAlas, BabylonThe PostmanI had recently read “I am Legend” and it was so different than the movie (better, imo) that it made me think about reading “The Stand” and “The Postman”. So, I started looking into the genre, in general, and came up with the list above. I decided to start with World War Z as I wanted to have that read well before the movie comes out (not sure when that is). -Canticle is on deck right now.what'd you get? Dish! Dish!!Yeah, I am hoping it finishes strong. I actually ordered a few of the books on the list in the OP and have them sitting, waiting for me to read... so the thought of dropping WWZ 3/4 the way through did run through my mind. I was sort of surprised the thought even came up because I liked the start of WWZ so much. --I will power through regardless, since I'm so close, but I really am hoping my interest will sway back toward the positive for the last 40 pages or so.Exactly. It feels very much like he was just throwing things in there as filler at the end. Hey, I bet underwater would be good to fill a few pages. And then why not talk about dogs? You bet. How about we talk about how hard the French had it underground, even though they chose to be there such.I'm finding myself noticeably less interested about 3/4 into the book. I was very much enjoying the book early on and it's only so-so for me the last several "interviews." I'm hoping it picks back up for me again shortly.In reading World War Z, I find myself really enjoying some sections, such as South/North Korea, Japan, etc., but others really drag and have me thinking he must have really been out of ideas towards the end of the book to stretch it out.10% left and I am contemplating just giving it up at this point. Boring.
I don't want to spoil Canticle but as a fan of it, I'll jump in when it comes back up. The Stand is such a two faced book. First half is incredible, second half is incredulous. I think King went through and altered past books a bit to tie in some of the supernatural elements so hey matched with each other and newer books. Not sure if Stand got changed but if so, I would recommend the pre-alteration choice. The end half is kinda hard enough to swallow without the added BS of tying it in with Dark Tower and such.I liked Postman, but never finished the Stand. I'm interested to hear more impressions of Canticle for Leibowitz, as I did not care for it.
I just picked this up at the library. I hope it lives up to what I am hearing.Thanks for the recommendation. Finished about 75% in 1 day. Right up my alley.The Stand is in the Top 5, no question. Anyone who doesn't get this shouldn't earn their apocalyptic novel merit badge.
Also really enjoyed One Second After, about life after an EMP attack.![]()
I found the entire book extremely tedious to read. I've never had to force myself to trudge through a book like that in my life. In the end I could appreciate the satire on religion and the human race but it's not an enjoyable read.I loved it and was curious how I missed it all these years. I wouldn't consider myself literarily adventurous either. The very end was a bit tedious but I thought it was thought provoking and didn't diminish what was, up to then, a very good story.Yeah, it gets pretty irritating after awhile. I probably should have mentioned that.Damn if that isn't one boring book. People need to stop recommending it.
Since this is the next one on my list (probably start reading it in a week or two), would you guys recommend I drop it after 100 pages or so if it hasn't pulled me in by that point? In other words, will I know pretty early on if this story and the style are something that I'll enjoy or not?Admittedly, I don't want to force myself to read a book that bores me to tears... life is too short to willingly do that to myself. -I'm hoping to be very interested in Canticle as I'm going through it, but it sounds like most either really like it or strongly dislike it.'cstu said:I found the entire book extremely tedious to read. I've never had to force myself to trudge through a book like that in my life. In the end I could appreciate the satire on religion and the human race but it's not an enjoyable read.I loved it and was curious how I missed it all these years. I wouldn't consider myself literarily adventurous either. The very end was a bit tedious but I thought it was thought provoking and didn't diminish what was, up to then, a very good story.Yeah, it gets pretty irritating after awhile. I probably should have mentioned that.Damn if that isn't one boring book. People need to stop recommending it.
I've read these two, enjoyed them both. The interviews for WWZ can get repetitive, but I enjoyed most of them.I think the Stand should be among these books, despite the ending. I'm going to check out One Second After, sounds interesting.World War Z - Max BrooksLucifer's Hammer - Larry Niven & Jerry Pournell
Can you elaborate on this in spoilers? I don't recall anything.The end half is kinda hard enough to swallow without the added BS of tying it in with Dark Tower and such.
Can you elaborate on this in spoilers? I don't recall anything.The end half is kinda hard enough to swallow without the added BS of tying it in with Dark Tower and such.
Granted its been a while since I read The Stand but I am 99% sure that is not true. I have read both versions. The newer version contained updated pop culture stuff. I believe who ever you spoke with was talking about the end of the dark tower. The last of the Dark Tower books does go through quite a bit of "stretching" to get what your spoiler refers to.Can you elaborate on this in spoilers? I don't recall anything.The end half is kinda hard enough to swallow without the added BS of tying it in with Dark Tower and such.I haven't read King this century so I haven't actually read the modified versions but it's my understanding that while getting near the end of Dark Tower he started tying a lot of villains into the same eon spanning evil guy, Randall Flagg. So the bad guy in Eyes of the Dragon became Flagg, etc. I guess The bad guy in DT is also Flagg. Sounds like he George Lucased a lot of his older books to make them in one "universe" with a unified Walking Dude bad guy.
Great book, terrible movie. Kind of the inspiration for Snake Plissken, I always thought.Good call. Haven't seen Damnation Alley by Zelazny mentioned yet. It was made into one of the worst films ever but it was a decent book, albeit very "pulpy".And the extremely wonderful Hawkwind had a song based on it, another strong recommendation.Day of the Triffids by Jack Wyndham![]()
What do you like? The Stand is good old Stephen King, although I'll agree that the first half is better than the second half. That means it's a thousand pages of character development, but done really well. The Road is short and good, but depressing. Haven't read One Second Later. I like the Lucifer's Hammer and Damnation Alley mentions. Hammer is longer but an interesting read. Damnation Alley is shorter but a good read.Hmmm...haven't read a book in years but this thread has me reconsidering. What's a good one to start with? The Stand? The Road? One Second Later?...
You can read One Second After in a day, maybe two. Very short book.Something that's not 1000 pages, but builds to a good ending and is somewhat similar to what might really happen. "The Road" sounds too depressing.
Description looks cool. I think I'll go with this one.You can read One Second After in a day, maybe two. Very short book.Something that's not 1000 pages, but builds to a good ending and is somewhat similar to what might really happen. "The Road" sounds too depressing.
It was *NOT* a terrible movie, and there are multiple points to back this up.1. George Peppard2. The Landmaster3. Armored cockroachesI could go on, but I am confident that you have been defeated.On to better news!I'm on disc 8 of One Second After, and I'm enjoying it for the most part. However, the preachy tone of the author is a beatdown, and it seems to be increasing in frequency as the book goes on. I hope there is a more interesting point to the book outside of the "America is doomed if we don't prepare for this!" mantra. I don't think the forward by Newt Gengrich helped on this point. Also, the narrator trying to do a female southern accent makes me want to claw my eyes out at times. Perhaps I should have read this book instead. On the bright side, he really put some thought into how a small community might survive a horrific event like this, and that preparation shows in the story.Great book, terrible movie. Kind of the inspiration for Snake Plissken, I always thought.Good call. Haven't seen Damnation Alley by Zelazny mentioned yet. It was made into one of the worst films ever but it was a decent book, albeit very "pulpy".And the extremely wonderful Hawkwind had a song based on it, another strong recommendation.Day of the Triffids by Jack Wyndham![]()