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Nice. About middle of the show. Closed with a very long and excellent “Mirror In The Bathroom”.
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The 100 Greatest Songs of 1982 #1. Little Red Corvette (2 Viewers)
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44. The Jam “Town Called Malice” (from The Gift)
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Paul Weller is an extraordinary talent and a very big deal in England. But he’s almost unknown in the USA. Even his biggest hits with The Jam, like this one and “That’s Entertainment”, got very little play here, and his stuff with The Style Council and as a solo artist, none at all.
Which is too bad because he has a long and outstanding career and his songs are well worth a listen. “Town Calied Malice” is a classic Mod song evocative of Motown.
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Paul Weller is an extraordinary talent and a very big deal in England. But he’s almost unknown in the USA. Even his biggest hits with The Jam, like this one and “That’s Entertainment”, got very little play here, and his stuff with The Style Council and as a solo artist, none at all.
Which is too bad because he has a long and outstanding career and his songs are well worth a listen. “Town Calied Malice” is a classic Mod song evocative of Motown.
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In the early 90s I took a trip to England and met a friend who was traveling there. Her friends introduced me to music by artists like Paul Weller, Paul Brady and Chris Rea. I gave them cassettes of artists that weren't yet known across the pond. I spent a lot of money at a Virgin record store.44. The Jam “Town Called Malice” (from The Gift)
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Paul Weller is an extraordinary talent and a very big deal in England. But he’s almost unknown in the USA. Even his biggest hits with The Jam, like this one and “That’s Entertainment”, got very little play here, and his stuff with The Style Council and as a solo artist, none at all.
Which is too bad because he has a long and outstanding career and his songs are well worth a listen. “Town Calied Malice” is a classic Mod song evocative of Motown.
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I thought you would have this much higher.44. The Jam “Town Called Malice” (from The Gift)
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Paul Weller is an extraordinary talent and a very big deal in England. But he’s almost unknown in the USA. Even his biggest hits with The Jam, like this one and “That’s Entertainment”, got very little play here, and his stuff with The Style Council and as a solo artist, none at all.
Which is too bad because he has a long and outstanding career and his songs are well worth a listen. “Town Calied Malice” is a classic Mod song evocative of Motown.
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The bold is not true. Not for Gen Xers, anyway. The Jam got plenty of play on MTV in the '80s, and Weller material from his entire career shows up on "modern rock radio" stations. He's not a household name here, but there's a lot of space between that and "almost unknown". I'll stop there lest we get into another "The Smiths are a college band" debate.44. The Jam “Town Called Malice” (from The Gift)
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Paul Weller is an extraordinary talent and a very big deal in England. But he’s almost unknown in the USA. Even his biggest hits with The Jam, like this one and “That’s Entertainment”, got very little play here, and his stuff with The Style Council and as a solo artist, none at all.
Which is too bad because he has a long and outstanding career and his songs are well worth a listen. “Town Calied Malice” is a classic Mod song evocative of Motown.
This is indeed one of his best songs and I would have it much higher (Binky: lower).
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The only reason I personally know of The Jam is because of their inclusion on punk rock comps that were put out by Rhino records. Took some digging to find out about them. I never really even loved them until otb convinced me to give them another chance. Now I think they're just great.
I have a different musical journey than most, though, so perhaps I'm not representative of Gen X as a whole. (Though I'd argue that I have very Gen X tendencies.)
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I saw him in NYC in 2006. More than half the crowd was British expats, and they were raucous.Seeing Paul Weller live is definitely on my bucket list. He doesn’t hit the US too often
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I love The Jam. Not sure why they didn't get more play in the US.
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This would be on my short list for #1. The video definitely got much play on MTV, don’t remember radio playing it, but I was only 1244. The Jam “Town Called Malice” (from The Gift)
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Paul Weller is an extraordinary talent and a very big deal in England. But he’s almost unknown in the USA. Even his biggest hits with The Jam, like this one and “That’s Entertainment”, got very little play here, and his stuff with The Style Council and as a solo artist, none at all.
Which is too bad because he has a long and outstanding career and his songs are well worth a listen. “Town Calied Malice” is a classic Mod song evocative of Motown.
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"Too British" or something like that.
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Uh oh, I smell a poll...
timschochet
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Too cool and edgy?
TripItUp
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I was speaking more to their actual music...it's great, but not as earth shattering as many would claim.
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My Ever Changing Moods by Style Council is his only top 40 US hit for correction purposes
You’re the Best Thing made #76
Thats it.
Oddly enough Australia was similar. A Town Called Malice and Beat Surrender made the top 50
Nothing Solo, but the Style Council had 6 top 40 hits, with Shout to the Top making top 10
So in conclusion Paul Weller is best known internationally for the Style Council. Go figure. He’s a demi god in the UK
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If we go strictly by chart appearances, which were from 40 years ago, yes. But that's a much too narrow way to consider it.
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43. Billy Joel “Goodnight Saigon” (from The Nylon Curtain)
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As with “Allentown”, Joel wanted to make a statement here, which was unusual for him as an artist- the vast majority of his songs are about love and personal introspection. But this tune is about Vietnam, the most pivotal event of his generation.
It’s a great song. I sometimes get annoyed by the long opening with the sound of choppers, but once the melody begins I almost never turn it off.
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As with “Allentown”, Joel wanted to make a statement here, which was unusual for him as an artist- the vast majority of his songs are about love and personal introspection. But this tune is about Vietnam, the most pivotal event of his generation.
It’s a great song. I sometimes get annoyed by the long opening with the sound of choppers, but once the melody begins I almost never turn it off.
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Probably the definitive 80s song for me. And it's really good.45. Billy Idol “White Wedding” (from Billy Idol)
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Because of Billy Idol’s punk like appearance, this song was originally categorized as “post-punk” and only played on alternative stations. But mainstream rock radio stations quickly realized their error because this tune is one of the great classic hard rock songs of the era, and so it started getting attention on classic rock stations where it’s been a staple ever since. (The same thing happened in 1982 to a couple of Clash songs that we’ll get to later.)
“White Wedding” also brought Steve Stevens to the attention of a lot of people, as his guitar playing is superb here.
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For @Uruk-Hai. Also.Probably the definitive 80s song for me. And it's really good.45. Billy Idol “White Wedding” (from Billy Idol)
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Because of Billy Idol’s punk like appearance, this song was originally categorized as “post-punk” and only played on alternative stations. But mainstream rock radio stations quickly realized their error because this tune is one of the great classic hard rock songs of the era, and so it started getting attention on classic rock stations where it’s been a staple ever since. (The same thing happened in 1982 to a couple of Clash songs that we’ll get to later.)
“White Wedding” also brought Steve Stevens to the attention of a lot of people, as his guitar playing is superb here.
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My favorite Billy song, although not a huge bar for me given my tepid interest in his material.43. Billy Joel “Goodnight Saigon” (from The Nylon Curtain)
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As with “Allentown”, Joel wanted to make a statement here, which was unusual for him as an artist- the vast majority of his songs are about love and personal introspection. But this tune is about Vietnam, the most pivotal event of his generation.
It’s a great song. I sometimes get annoyed by the long opening with the sound of choppers, but once the melody begins I almost never turn it off.
northern exposure
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It was unusual for Joel to make a statement because....he wasn't very good at it. Heavy handed and clichéd is how I would describe it. Billy should have stayed in his lane. Albums like this one were annoying. Trying to make statements (Allentown, Goodnight Saigon), experimenting with new sounds (synths on Pressure), trying to be a Rock and Roller on Glass Houses, trying to impersonate Frankie Valli on Uptown Girl. :yuck:43. Billy Joel “Goodnight Saigon” (from The Nylon Curtain)
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As with “Allentown”, Joel wanted to make a statement here, which was unusual for him as an artist- the vast majority of his songs are about love and personal introspection. But this tune is about Vietnam, the most pivotal event of his generation.
It’s a great song. I sometimes get annoyed by the long opening with the sound of choppers, but once the melody begins I almost never turn it off.
Billy should stick to what he's OK at.
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Of course, any decent music fan knows that Weller is going to be much more associated to the Jam. The charts arent about music appreciators. More about the average joe. Theres a much better chance they know and remember a Style Council song than anything the Jam ever put out. Thats pretty sad. Internationally, not the UK.
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42. Yaz “Situation” (from Upstairs At Eric’s)
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The legendary Vince Clarke spent time with Depeche Mode (“Just Can’t Get Enough”), The Assembly (with Fearghal Sharkey of the Undertones, “Never Never”, one of my favorite “lost” songs of all time), and Allison Moyet (Yaz; Yazoo in the UK) before settling in with Andy Bell and Erasure for the long haul.
“Situation”, a product of his Yaz days, is one of the most irresistible dance songs of the era. This party due to Clarke’s brilliant writing and partly due to Moyet’s powerful and soulful vocals. (I always found it interesting that Andy Bell of Erasure sounds almost exactly like Allison Moyet.)
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“Situation”, a product of his Yaz days, is one of the most irresistible dance songs of the era. This party due to Clarke’s brilliant writing and partly due to Moyet’s powerful and soulful vocals. (I always found it interesting that Andy Bell of Erasure sounds almost exactly like Allison Moyet.)
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Ha. Just listened to this album yesterday. Have you got more to come?42. Yaz “Situation” (from Upstairs At Eric’s)
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The legendary Vince Clarke spent time with Depeche Mode (“Just Can’t Get Enough”), The Assembly (with Fearghal Sharkey of the Undertones, “Never Never”, one of my favorite “lost” songs of all time), and Allison Moyet (Yaz; Yazoo in the UK) before settling in with Andy Bell and Erasure for the long haul.
“Situation”, a product of his Yaz days, is one of the most irresistible dance songs of the era. This party due to Clarke’s brilliant writing and partly due to Moyet’s powerful and soulful vocals. (I always found it interesting that Andy Bell of Erasure sounds almost exactly like Allison Moyet.)
2 much better tracks still out there
Internationally they were known as Yazoo.
For some reason they had to shorten it to Yaz for the US.
Erasure. I was surprised to see they had 3 top 20:singles in the US. They couldnt get arrested in Australia.
In the UK they had 29 top 20 tracks. Their only #1 was the brilliant Abba-esque EP which was their only real hit in Australia
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This is the only song. I like the other two you mentioned (quite a bit) but I don’t think they’re better than “Situation”.Ha. Just listened to this album yesterday. Have you got more to come?42. Yaz “Situation” (from Upstairs At Eric’s)
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The legendary Vince Clarke spent time with Depeche Mode (“Just Can’t Get Enough”), The Assembly (with Fearghal Sharkey of the Undertones, “Never Never”, one of my favorite “lost” songs of all time), and Allison Moyet (Yaz; Yazoo in the UK) before settling in with Andy Bell and Erasure for the long haul.
“Situation”, a product of his Yaz days, is one of the most irresistible dance songs of the era. This party due to Clarke’s brilliant writing and partly due to Moyet’s powerful and soulful vocals. (I always found it interesting that Andy Bell of Erasure sounds almost exactly like Allison Moyet.)
2 much better tracks still out there
Internationally they were known as Yazoo.
For some reason they had to shorten it to Yaz for the US.
Erasure. I was surprised to see they had 3 top 20:singles in the US. They couldnt get arrested in Australia.
In the UK they had 29 top 20 tracks. Their only #1 was the brilliant Abba-esque EP which was their only real hit in Australia
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42. Yaz “Situation” (from Upstairs At Eric’s)
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The legendary Vince Clarke spent time with Depeche Mode (“Just Can’t Get Enough”), The Assembly (with Fearghal Sharkey of the Undertones, “Never Never”, one of my favorite “lost” songs of all time), and Allison Moyet (Yaz; Yazoo in the UK) before settling in with Andy Bell and Erasure for the long haul.
“Situation”, a product of his Yaz days, is one of the most irresistible dance songs of the era. This party due to Clarke’s brilliant writing and partly due to Moyet’s powerful and soulful vocals. (I always found it interesting that Andy Bell of Erasure sounds almost exactly like Allison Moyet.)
The Yaz stuff doesn't age well IMHO, but I liked it then and I'll listen to it now.
Gr00vus
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I again have to state my appreciation for radio station KROQ here in the L.A. area. I got to hear all this stuff pretty consequent to its release, so I just can't relate to the folks who haven't heard it at all before, or only got exposed to it somewhere down the line.
Also, the original Falco version is best.
Also, the original Falco version is best.
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My area stations were not quite as advanced. We'd get an hour or two on a Sunday night. It did give me a week to prepare my blank cassettes.
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This is the only song. I like the other two you mentioned (quite a bit) but I don’t think they’re better than “Situation”.Ha. Just listened to this album yesterday. Have you got more to come?42. Yaz “Situation” (from Upstairs At Eric’s)
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The legendary Vince Clarke spent time with Depeche Mode (“Just Can’t Get Enough”), The Assembly (with Fearghal Sharkey of the Undertones, “Never Never”, one of my favorite “lost” songs of all time), and Allison Moyet (Yaz; Yazoo in the UK) before settling in with Andy Bell and Erasure for the long haul.
“Situation”, a product of his Yaz days, is one of the most irresistible dance songs of the era. This party due to Clarke’s brilliant writing and partly due to Moyet’s powerful and soulful vocals. (I always found it interesting that Andy Bell of Erasure sounds almost exactly like Allison Moyet.)
2 much better tracks still out there
Internationally they were known as Yazoo.
For some reason they had to shorten it to Yaz for the US.
Erasure. I was surprised to see they had 3 top 20:singles in the US. They couldnt get arrested in Australia.
In the UK they had 29 top 20 tracks. Their only #1 was the brilliant Abba-esque EP which was their only real hit in Australia
Don’t go there,
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Situation being better than Don’t Go or Only You is new to me, but whatever floats your boatThis is the only song. I like the other two you mentioned (quite a bit) but I don’t think they’re better than “Situation”.Ha. Just listened to this album yesterday. Have you got more to come?42. Yaz “Situation” (from Upstairs At Eric’s)
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The legendary Vince Clarke spent time with Depeche Mode (“Just Can’t Get Enough”), The Assembly (with Fearghal Sharkey of the Undertones, “Never Never”, one of my favorite “lost” songs of all time), and Allison Moyet (Yaz; Yazoo in the UK) before settling in with Andy Bell and Erasure for the long haul.
“Situation”, a product of his Yaz days, is one of the most irresistible dance songs of the era. This party due to Clarke’s brilliant writing and partly due to Moyet’s powerful and soulful vocals. (I always found it interesting that Andy Bell of Erasure sounds almost exactly like Allison Moyet.)
2 much better tracks still out there
Internationally they were known as Yazoo.
For some reason they had to shorten it to Yaz for the US.
Erasure. I was surprised to see they had 3 top 20:singles in the US. They couldnt get arrested in Australia.
In the UK they had 29 top 20 tracks. Their only #1 was the brilliant Abba-esque EP which was their only real hit in Australia
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41. The Pretenders “Back On The Chain Gang” (released as a single)
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1982 was a very rough year for Chrissie Hynde. She fired the bass player of the Pretenders for drug abuse, then the lead guitarist died suddenly of drug abuse, and the fired bass player died of drug abuse a few months later. At the same time Chrissie was a few months pregnant by way of Ray Davies of the Kinks, but he broke up with her.
She dedicated this tune to the guitarist. It’s not my favorite Pretenders song, but it just might be the best one.
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1982 was a very rough year for Chrissie Hynde. She fired the bass player of the Pretenders for drug abuse, then the lead guitarist died suddenly of drug abuse, and the fired bass player died of drug abuse a few months later. At the same time Chrissie was a few months pregnant by way of Ray Davies of the Kinks, but he broke up with her.
She dedicated this tune to the guitarist. It’s not my favorite Pretenders song, but it just might be the best one.
rockaction
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song of 1982.
rockaction
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Really, I'd have "Back on the Chain Gang" much higher, I think.
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Circumstance beyond our control
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I can't say I am much of a Pretenders fan outside of a handful of songs, but I do love Back on the Chain Gang.
Goodnight Saigon is a great Joel song. He has so many great ones that it is hard to narrow favorites down, but that would easily be a top 20-25 one for me when it comes to Mr. Joel.
Goodnight Saigon is a great Joel song. He has so many great ones that it is hard to narrow favorites down, but that would easily be a top 20-25 one for me when it comes to Mr. Joel.
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Only You is the best song on the album imo.Situation being better than Don’t Go or Only You is new to me, but whatever floats your boatThis is the only song. I like the other two you mentioned (quite a bit) but I don’t think they’re better than “Situation”.Ha. Just listened to this album yesterday. Have you got more to come?42. Yaz “Situation” (from Upstairs At Eric’s)
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The legendary Vince Clarke spent time with Depeche Mode (“Just Can’t Get Enough”), The Assembly (with Fearghal Sharkey of the Undertones, “Never Never”, one of my favorite “lost” songs of all time), and Allison Moyet (Yaz; Yazoo in the UK) before settling in with Andy Bell and Erasure for the long haul.
“Situation”, a product of his Yaz days, is one of the most irresistible dance songs of the era. This party due to Clarke’s brilliant writing and partly due to Moyet’s powerful and soulful vocals. (I always found it interesting that Andy Bell of Erasure sounds almost exactly like Allison Moyet.)
2 much better tracks still out there
Internationally they were known as Yazoo.
For some reason they had to shorten it to Yaz for the US.
Erasure. I was surprised to see they had 3 top 20:singles in the US. They couldnt get arrested in Australia.
In the UK they had 29 top 20 tracks. Their only #1 was the brilliant Abba-esque EP which was their only real hit in Australia
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I remember them using it in the BBC's The Office Christmas Special. #Dawn & TimOnly You is the best song on the album imo.Situation being better than Don’t Go or Only You is new to me, but whatever floats your boatThis is the only song. I like the other two you mentioned (quite a bit) but I don’t think they’re better than “Situation”.Ha. Just listened to this album yesterday. Have you got more to come?42. Yaz “Situation” (from Upstairs At Eric’s)
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“Situation”, a product of his Yaz days, is one of the most irresistible dance songs of the era. This party due to Clarke’s brilliant writing and partly due to Moyet’s powerful and soulful vocals. (I always found it interesting that Andy Bell of Erasure sounds almost exactly like Allison Moyet.)
2 much better tracks still out there
Internationally they were known as Yazoo.
For some reason they had to shorten it to Yaz for the US.
Erasure. I was surprised to see they had 3 top 20:singles in the US. They couldnt get arrested in Australia.
In the UK they had 29 top 20 tracks. Their only #1 was the brilliant Abba-esque EP which was their only real hit in Australia
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40. Ultravox “Reap The Wild Wind” (from Quartet)
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Another song I was very much aware of in 1982 thanks both to MTV and KROQ. But it was pretty much the ONLY Ultravox song that I was aware of- it wasn’t till about 5 years later, when I purchased a greatest hits cassette, that I realized how many of their songs I enjoyed. But even then “Reap the Wild Wind” was always my favorite.
Which leads to another topic: record stores. This is where you bought your albums in 1982, and many of the bands on this list from the UK just were not available at the local Sam Goody. You had to go out of your way to that special imports record store. I didn’t have my own car in 1982 so that was a big deal for me. I’d save up money and get a ride to the record store maybe once every few months and splurge. Sometimes I knew nothing about the band but the cover looked cool- that’s the way I first discovered The Boomtown Rats, among others.
I’ve tried to explain this to my kids and all I get are blank looks.
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Another song I was very much aware of in 1982 thanks both to MTV and KROQ. But it was pretty much the ONLY Ultravox song that I was aware of- it wasn’t till about 5 years later, when I purchased a greatest hits cassette, that I realized how many of their songs I enjoyed. But even then “Reap the Wild Wind” was always my favorite.
Which leads to another topic: record stores. This is where you bought your albums in 1982, and many of the bands on this list from the UK just were not available at the local Sam Goody. You had to go out of your way to that special imports record store. I didn’t have my own car in 1982 so that was a big deal for me. I’d save up money and get a ride to the record store maybe once every few months and splurge. Sometimes I knew nothing about the band but the cover looked cool- that’s the way I first discovered The Boomtown Rats, among others.
I’ve tried to explain this to my kids and all I get are blank looks.
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Footballguy
just a really good slightly later "U" artist choice.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I also had that Ultravox greatest hits cassette, one of my Columbia House selections.
timschochet
Footballguy
I mentioned Sam Goody in my previous post but it might have been Licorice Pizza back then.
DocHolliday
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We have entered a part of the list where Tim has lost me. I like the Pretenders some but the other recent songs didn’t do anything for me in 82 and still don’t.
scorchy
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All three of them might make my Top 30 - love that album a ton. Still, Tim doing great work in here.
Pittsburgh used to have an awesome place called Record-Rama which was at one time purported to have the largest record/CD collections in the world. Imports, bootlegs, etc. long before the mp3 era. The kind of place you could lose a whole morning and wallet full of cash.
I miss those days, and that place.
RIP, Record-Rama
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