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[wilked]

AL East -

AL Central -

AL West -

AL WC -

AL MVP -

AL Cy -

AL ROY -

NL East -

NL Central -

NL West -

NL WC -

NL MVP -

NL Cy -

NL ROY -

 

[wilked]

AL East - Red SoxAL Central - DetroitAL West - LAAAL WC - NYYAL MVP - MagsAL Cy - BeckettAL ROY - PedroiaNL East - MetsNL Central - CubsNL West - DBacksNL WC - BravesNL MVP - HanRamNL Cy - PeavyNL ROY - Braun

 

[wilked]

Here;s the 25% checkin for reference

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=319035&hl=

 

[bialczabub]

AL East - Red Sox

AL Central - Tigers

AL West - Angels

AL WC - Yankees

AL MVP - A-Rod

AL Cy - Haren

AL ROY - Pedroia

NL East - Mets

NL Central - Cubs

NL West - Padres

NL WC - Braves

NL MVP - Miguel Cabrera (I have a feeling Ramirez will be snubbed)

NL Cy - Peavy

NL ROY - Braun

 

[bialczabub]

Indians - 95 wins

Red Sox - 104 wins

Angels - 92 wins



Wild Card - White Sox - 93 wins

BGP strikes again!

 

[tamales]

AL East - Red Sox

AL Central - Tigers

AL West - Angels

AL WC - Yankees

AL MVP - ARod

AL Cy - Bedard

AL ROY - Okajima

NL East - Mets

NL Central - Cubs

NL West - Diamondbacks

NL WC - Braves

NL MVP - Ramirez

NL Cy - Webb

NL ROY - Braun

 

[Pat Patriot]

AL East - BostonAL Central - DetroitAL West - AngelsAL WC - SeattleAL MVP - MagsAL Cy - BedardAL ROY - Dice-KNL East - MetsNL Central - BrewersNL West - DBacksNL WC - PhilliesNL MVP - FielderNL Cy - Brandon WebbNL ROY - Braun

 

[the moops]

Are the Sox going to finish 1,2,3 in ROY voting (Pedroia, Oki, Dice-K)?

Has that ever happened before? Where one team has 3, or even 2 rookie candidates finish top in the voting?

 

[wilked]

Are the Sox going to finish 1,2,3 in ROY voting (Pedroia, Oki, Dice-K)?Has that ever happened before? Where one team has 3, or even 2 rookie candidates finish top in the voting?

they certainly deserve 3 of the top 4 slots.

 

[tamales]

The AL rookie class is horrid this year. Completely opposite of last years.

 

[wilked]

The AL rookie class is horrid this year. Completely opposite of last years.

ya...I had to think about who would be #5 in voting this year. It is basically 4 guys, then nobody else

 

[bialczabub]

AL MVP - Mags

AL MVP - Mags

 

[wilked]

AL MVP - Mags

AL MVP - Mags

stolen from DD

OPS+ RBI  Runs	Avg  OBPMags	 171   108	91  .357 .431A-Rod	176   114   107  .300 .407

It is closer then you think. Mags has had more late game heroics, which is what pushed my vote to him

 

[bialczabub]

It is closer then you think. Mags has had more late game heroics, which is what pushed my vote to him

riiiiiiiiiiight.OK, it's close, but not really.

HRs and RBIs, while overrated, are interesting when the same guy leads in both.

Also, an above average 3B vs. a below average RF doesn't mean anything, right?

 

[wilked]

It is closer then you think. Mags has had more late game heroics, which is what pushed my vote to him

riiiiiiiiiiight.OK, it's close, but not really.

HRs and RBIs, while overrated, are interesting when the same guy leads in both.

Also, an above average 3B vs. a below average RF doesn't mean anything, right?

below average?Mags is a very strong defender...you thinking of Vlad?

 

[Your Mother]

AL MVP - Rodriguez

AL Cy - Bedard

AL ROY - Matsuzaka

NL MVP - The least clear-cut call. Close between Fielder and Cabrera. I'll go Fielder.

NL Cy - Peavy

NL ROY - Braun

 

[bialczabub]

It is closer then you think. Mags has had more late game heroics, which is what pushed my vote to him

riiiiiiiiiiight.OK, it's close, but not really.

HRs and RBIs, while overrated, are interesting when the same guy leads in both.

Also, an above average 3B vs. a below average RF doesn't mean anything, right?

below average?Mags is a very strong defender...you thinking of Vlad?

Mags' FRAA is -9 this season. -4 last season and -2 the year before.He had one very good season by that metric, but has otherwise been around average until the past few years.

 

[wilked]

It is closer then you think. Mags has had more late game heroics, which is what pushed my vote to him

riiiiiiiiiiight.OK, it's close, but not really.

HRs and RBIs, while overrated, are interesting when the same guy leads in both.

Also, an above average 3B vs. a below average RF doesn't mean anything, right?

below average?Mags is a very strong defender...you thinking of Vlad?

Mags' FRAA is -9 this season. -4 last season and -2 the year before.He had one very good season by that metric, but has otherwise been around average until the past few years.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main...p;Submit=Submittops in RZR

I have watched him play a bit this year, and he has looked strong. He is certainly not below average

 

[Your Mother]

It is closer then you think. Mags has had more late game heroics, which is what pushed my vote to him

riiiiiiiiiiight.OK, it's close, but not really.

HRs and RBIs, while overrated, are interesting when the same guy leads in both.

Also, an above average 3B vs. a below average RF doesn't mean anything, right?

below average?Mags is a very strong defender...you thinking of Vlad?

Mags' FRAA is -9 this season. -4 last season and -2 the year before.He had one very good season by that metric, but has otherwise been around average until the past few years.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main...p;Submit=Submittops in RZR

I have watched him play a bit this year, and he has looked strong. He is certainly not below average

Ordonez's BABIP is not supported by his underlying peripherals. Line drive rate is slightly above average, HR/F is above average but not in superstar territory, his BABIP of .380 seems high, which is pumping up all of his other numbers. Does anyone know how to calculate xBA, or know it perchance?

 

[phthalatemagic]

AL East - Yankees

AL Central - Indians

AL West - Angels

AL WC - Tigers

NL East - Mets

NL Central - Cards

NL West - DBacks

NL WC - Braves

 

[guru_007]

AL East - Boston

AL Central - Detroit

AL West - Angels

AL WC - Seattle

AL MVP - Mags

AL Cy - Bedard Beckett

AL ROY - Dice-K

NL East - Mets

NL Central - Brewers

NL West - DBacks

NL WC - Phillies

NL MVP - Fielder

NL Cy - Brandon Webb

NL ROY - Braun

I agree with all of these except Bedard.I see a lot of love in here for Bedard, and he's having a helluva season, but honestly, is his season even better than Santana's right now?

I gave it to Beckett, because 1- I think he'll win 20+ games this year. 2-No one is having a clear cut cy young season. 3-he is the best pitcher on the best team.

I think the AL Cy Young voting could go something like this:

Beckett

JJ Putz

Santana

Haren

Bedard

 

[Colin Dowling]

ARod will need to break his leg to not win the MVP. Anyone thinking otherwise is either deluded or a Boston fan.

 

[tamales]

ARod will need to break his leg to not win the MVP. Anyone thinking otherwise is either deluded or a Boston fan.

Actually Mags is catching up a bit recently. ARods HR prowess has tailed off as of late. That being said, as of right now ARod is still the clear leader and has a large number of game winning hits to his credit as well. (GW GS vs Bal, GW 3R HR vs CLE, GW HR off Papelbon, GameTying HR vs SF, Im sure Im missing more).

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

How are we back to giving japanese players the ROY again? I thought they had been established as another "major league".

 

[bialczabub]

How are we back to giving japanese players the ROY again? I thought they had been established as another "major league".

Especially ones with a 6.92 ERA vs. his team's biggest rival. That one's for you, wilked.

 

[wilked]

How are we back to giving japanese players the ROY again? I thought they had been established as another "major league".

Especially ones with a 6.92 ERA vs. his team's biggest rival. That one's for you, wilked.

thanks GBUntil they change the definition of a rookie (which I don't expect anytime soon) all you can do is vote for the best player in his first MLB year.

 

[s_ezy]

AL East - Boston

AL Central - Cleveland

AL West - LA

AL WC - NY

AL MVP - AROD, (if detroit made it instead i would be voting for MAGS)

AL Cy - Berdard

AL ROY - does B.J. Upton count as a rookie? if not Delmont Young

NL East - NY

NL Central - St. Louis

NL West - Arizona

NL WC - Atlanta

NL MVP - B.Webb (best player on the best team in the NL)

NL Cy - J.Peavy

NL ROY - R.Braun

 

[bialczabub]

I'm a bit surprised that I'm the only guy who thinks the Padres will surpass the D-Backs. Even LA has a shot IMO.

 

[Your Mother]

AL East - Boston

AL Central - Detroit

AL West - Angels

AL WC - Seattle

AL MVP - Mags

AL Cy - Bedard Beckett

AL ROY - Dice-K

NL East - Mets

NL Central - Brewers

NL West - DBacks

NL WC - Phillies

NL MVP - Fielder

NL Cy - Brandon Webb

NL ROY - Braun

I agree with all of these except Bedard.I see a lot of love in here for Bedard, and he's having a helluva season, but honestly, is his season even better than Santana's right now?

I gave it to Beckett, because 1- I think he'll win 20+ games this year. 2-No one is having a clear cut cy young season. 3-he is the best pitcher on the best team.

I think the AL Cy Young voting could go something like this:

Beckett

JJ Putz

Santana

Haren

Bedard

1) "Wins" are a function of how good your team's offense/bullpen is. I think the Cy Young award is for the best pitcher, not best pitcher + team.2) It's very rarely clear cut, but Bedard's been the best pitcher in the AL this year.

3 See #1.

 

[Pat Patriot]

It is closer then you think. Mags has had more late game heroics, which is what pushed my vote to him

riiiiiiiiiiight.OK, it's close, but not really.

HRs and RBIs, while overrated, are interesting when the same guy leads in both.

Also, an above average 3B vs. a below average RF doesn't mean anything, right?

Whether you want to think so or not, Mags and ARod are pretty close. If Detroit makes the playoffs and the Yankees dont, I expect Mags to win the award. Since I predicted the Yankees to miss out on the playoffs, my selection is Mags.Wasnt ARod an absolute MESS in the field last year. Although not a complete wreck, I havent seen any predictions of him being the AL gold glove winner either.

Besides, in MVP talk, unless you are a DH, it has been pretty well documented that defense plays little part unless you are a catcher, SS or CF.

 

[bialczabub]

It is closer then you think. Mags has had more late game heroics, which is what pushed my vote to him

riiiiiiiiiiight.OK, it's close, but not really.

HRs and RBIs, while overrated, are interesting when the same guy leads in both.

Also, an above average 3B vs. a below average RF doesn't mean anything, right?

Whether you want to think so or not, Mags and ARod are pretty close. If Detroit makes the playoffs and the Yankees dont, I expect Mags to win the award. Since I predicted the Yankees to miss out on the playoffs, my selection is Mags.Wasnt ARod an absolute MESS in the field last year. Although not a complete wreck, I havent seen any predictions of him being the AL gold glove winner either.

Besides, in MVP talk, unless you are a DH, it has been pretty well documented that defense plays little part unless you are a catcher, SS or CF.

In terms of WARP, IIRC, A-Rod is somewhere between 20-25% more valuable than Magglio.Throw in dingers, ribbies, and late game antics and you have a really strong case for A-Rod.

 

[Pat Patriot]

It is closer then you think. Mags has had more late game heroics, which is what pushed my vote to him

riiiiiiiiiiight.OK, it's close, but not really.

HRs and RBIs, while overrated, are interesting when the same guy leads in both.

Also, an above average 3B vs. a below average RF doesn't mean anything, right?

Whether you want to think so or not, Mags and ARod are pretty close. If Detroit makes the playoffs and the Yankees dont, I expect Mags to win the award. Since I predicted the Yankees to miss out on the playoffs, my selection is Mags.Wasnt ARod an absolute MESS in the field last year. Although not a complete wreck, I havent seen any predictions of him being the AL gold glove winner either.

Besides, in MVP talk, unless you are a DH, it has been pretty well documented that defense plays little part unless you are a catcher, SS or CF.

In terms of WARP, IIRC, A-Rod is somewhere between 20-25% more valuable than Magglio.Throw in dingers, ribbies, and late game antics and you have a really strong case for A-Rod.

Unless ARod cant handle the weight of the mighty Yankees and fails to carry them to the playoffs.Superstars on non-playoff teams only win the MVP if there is not another viable contender. Ordonez is viable. The Yanks better make the playoffs if ARod wants to win the MVP.

 

[bialczabub]

Unless ARod cant handle the weight of the mighty Yankees and fails to carry them to the playoffs.Superstars on non-playoff teams only win the MVP if there is not another viable contender. Ordonez is viable. The Yanks better make the playoffs if ARod wants to win the MVP.

While this may be true, I'm just not sure the media will turn their heads on a previous winner who's leading the league in OPS, HR, and RBI. They will also inevitably make comparisons to other right-handed Yankee greats who failed to compile the kind of numbers A-Rod is putting up this year.The only things Ordonez is beating A-Rod in statistically is BA, hits, and doubles.IF, Ordonez wins without the stats significantly changing, it is an outrage.

 

[David Yudkin]

AL East - YankeesAL Central - IndiansAL West - AngelsAL WC - TigersNL East - MetsNL Central - CardsNL West - DBacksNL WC - Braves

The Sox are 6 up on the Yanks and 7.5 up on the Tigers for the WC with 36 games to play. Boston has 6 games left against NY but the rest of the games are against non contenders. If Boston only played .500 ball (18-18), the Yanks would need to go 24-12 and the Tigers would have to go 26-11 to tie the Bosox.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

AL East - BoSox

AL Central - Tigers

AL West - Angels

AL WC - Yanks

AL MVP - Maggs

NL East - Mets

NL Central - Brewers

NL West - Dbacks

NL WC - Padres

 

[Sammy3469]

AL East - Red Sox

AL Central - Detroit

AL West - LA

AL WC - Cleveland

AL MVP - A-Rod

AL Cy - Beckett

AL ROY - Dice-K

NL East - Mets

NL Central - Cubs

NL West - Pads

NL WC - Braves

NL MVP - Cabrera

NL Cy - Peavy

NL ROY - Braun

 

[phthalatemagic]

AL East - YankeesAL Central - IndiansAL West - AngelsAL WC - TigersNL East - MetsNL Central - CardsNL West - DBacksNL WC - Braves

The Sox are 6 up on the Yanks and 7.5 up on the Tigers for the WC with 36 games to play. Boston has 6 games left against NY but the rest of the games are against non contenders. If Boston only played .500 ball (18-18), the Yanks would need to go 24-12 and the Tigers would have to go 26-11 to tie the Bosox.

So?

 

[shadyridr]

Id like to change my NL MVP vote to Pujols

 

[the moops]

Unless ARod cant handle the weight of the mighty Yankees and fails to carry them to the playoffs.

Superstars on non-playoff teams only win the MVP if there is not another viable contender. Ordonez is viable. The Yanks better make the playoffs if ARod wants to win the MVP.

While this may be true, I'm just not sure the media will turn their heads on a previous winner who's leading the league in OPS, HR, and RBI. They will also inevitably make comparisons to other right-handed Yankee greats who failed to compile the kind of numbers A-Rod is putting up this year.The only things Ordonez is beating A-Rod in statistically is BA, hits, and doubles.

IF, Ordonez wins without the stats significantly changing, it is an outrage.

OBP too.But yes, A-Rod is the MVP

 

[Apollo]

AL East: Red Sox

AL Central: Indians

AL West: Mariners

AL Wildcard: Angels

AL MVP: Rodriguez

AL Cy Young: Santana

NL East: Mets

NL Central: Cubs

NL West: Diamondbacks

NL Wildcard: Padres

NL MVP: Holliday

NL Cy Young: Peavy

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

I haven't followed this thread too much, but I will say this, Jimmy Rollins, if the Phils make the post season, has to really be thought of for the MVP.

 

[bialczabub]

I'm a bit surprised that I'm the only guy who thinks the Padres will surpass the D-Backs. Even LA has a shot IMO.

 

[Your Mother]

if the Phils make the post season,

Not sure this should have anything to do with anything.