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"The Bachelor" on ABC (1 Viewer)

Which is more likely to happen first with the TV show The Bachelor?

  • Show gets canceled

    Votes: 69 63.9%
  • producers cast a black man as The Bachelor

    Votes: 39 36.1%

  • Total voters
    108
I thought the same thing. I was waiting for AshLee to say they had sex after Sean told her he didn't have feelings for the other girls. That chick is crazy.
My wife asked me who I thought was telling the truth, and I said 100% AshLee. I said that Sean was trying to get her in the sack, and he said that to seal the deal. There was also just something about the way he denied it that I didn't buy. I think that's also part of why she was so mad when she was let go. But she's not going to SAY that. I mean, who says, "He told me that so I'd sleep with him." He also managed to get through that without it coming out that he slept with her (if he did, but I think he did). He bluffed and won.
He's supposedly a religious nut and didn't sleep with any of them.
Yeah...me too. Supposedly. :rolleyes:
 
I put the current odds as the following: 60% chance he selects Catherine, 35% chance he selects Lindsay, 5% chance the letter is written by Desiree and he ends up picking her.



The funny thing is even though I would not have selected either of the two finalists, I think that there is a pretty good chance that whoever he picks of the two, they will get married and have a pretty successful marriage. Both of these woman seem like the will follow and do pretty much whatever Sean wants.
I'm going the complete opposite way. I don't see this one lasting. Call it playing the odds if you want. Two of the past bachelor/bachelorette pairs is married at this point...I don't count Jason and Molly b/c he didn't pick her initially. I just think that the deck is stacked against you.-The competition aspect artificially inflates the "status" of the bachelor/ette. I mean, seriously, what are the odds that all those girls really want to marry him? Just like he found flaws in them, I'm sure many would find flaws in him.

-The tabloids are on you like white on rice

-The fame you get after the show airs makes it hard to stay true, not to mention that you can't go out in public for a while due to the show airing.

-Lastly, you've got to learn how to date and survive like a normal couple. i.e. You can't take a helicopter on every date in the real world.

 
I put the current odds as the following: 60% chance he selects Catherine, 35% chance he selects Lindsay, 5% chance the letter is written by Desiree and he ends up picking her.



The funny thing is even though I would not have selected either of the two finalists, I think that there is a pretty good chance that whoever he picks of the two, they will get married and have a pretty successful marriage. Both of these woman seem like the will follow and do pretty much whatever Sean wants.
I'm going the complete opposite way. I don't see this one lasting. Call it playing the odds if you want. Two of the past bachelor/bachelorette pairs is married at this point...I don't count Jason and Molly b/c he didn't pick her initially. I just think that the deck is stacked against you.-The competition aspect artificially inflates the "status" of the bachelor/ette. I mean, seriously, what are the odds that all those girls really want to marry him? Just like he found flaws in them, I'm sure many would find flaws in him.

-The tabloids are on you like white on rice

-The fame you get after the show airs makes it hard to stay true, not to mention that you can't go out in public for a while due to the show airing.

-Lastly, you've got to learn how to date and survive like a normal couple. i.e. You can't take a helicopter on every date in the real world.
The whole thing is completely contrived. Past contestants say it is all scripted and the producers go as far as berating them if they refuse to recite the correct phrases for the cameras. These people go on what, 8 or 9 dates, then they are expected to become engaged? They barely know each other.
 
'Shrugs said:
Sean and AshLee disagreeing on whether he said he wasn't into the other two girls during the overnight -- awkward.
He was totally lying about never having said that. Just look at his body language during that.
Agreed. If what she was saying was a lie then he would've gotten angry about her impugning his integrity. Remember how he reacted to Dez's brother. insteadall he could do was smile and say I didn't say that.
Yep. Dude was flat busted.
I'm not so sure. He's going to call out a guy on national TV, but I doubt he was going to call out a girl. He's gone out of his way to always compliment the girls and not throw them under the bus.His reaction to me was one of, "WTF did she just say?"

I thought he did a great job of apologizing for something he didn't say to not make her look bad on TV.

And she's just crazy enough to twist something she thought she heard into something she thinks actually happened because of all the pain she went through. She hasn't been married for 15 years for a reason folks.

 
I put the current odds as the following: 60% chance he selects Catherine, 35% chance he selects Lindsay, 5% chance the letter is written by Desiree and he ends up picking her.



The funny thing is even though I would not have selected either of the two finalists, I think that there is a pretty good chance that whoever he picks of the two, they will get married and have a pretty successful marriage. Both of these woman seem like the will follow and do pretty much whatever Sean wants.
I'm going the complete opposite way. I don't see this one lasting. Call it playing the odds if you want. Two of the past bachelor/bachelorette pairs is married at this point...I don't count Jason and Molly b/c he didn't pick her initially. I just think that the deck is stacked against you.-The competition aspect artificially inflates the "status" of the bachelor/ette. I mean, seriously, what are the odds that all those girls really want to marry him? Just like he found flaws in them, I'm sure many would find flaws in him.

-The tabloids are on you like white on rice

-The fame you get after the show airs makes it hard to stay true, not to mention that you can't go out in public for a while due to the show airing.

-Lastly, you've got to learn how to date and survive like a normal couple. i.e. You can't take a helicopter on every date in the real world.
i don't think he picks either remaining Bachelorette, but does somehow end up with Dez by the time "After the Final Rose" airs. something about their interaction last night, the way Harrison commented specifically on their "chemistry," and some guilt on Sean's part for letting Dez' brother knock him off his game on the hometown dates.

 
'Shrugs said:
Sean and AshLee disagreeing on whether he said he wasn't into the other two girls during the overnight -- awkward.
He was totally lying about never having said that. Just look at his body language during that.
Agreed. If what she was saying was a lie then he would've gotten angry about her impugning his integrity. Remember how he reacted to Dez's brother. insteadall he could do was smile and say I didn't say that.
Yep. Dude was flat busted.
I'm not so sure. He's going to call out a guy on national TV, but I doubt he was going to call out a girl. He's gone out of his way to always compliment the girls and not throw them under the bus.His reaction to me was one of, "WTF did she just say?"

I thought he did a great job of apologizing for something he didn't say to not make her look bad on TV.

And she's just crazy enough to twist something she thought she heard into something she thinks actually happened because of all the pain she went through. She hasn't been married for 15 years for a reason folks.
I agree with this. It seems like a strange thing for him to say on that day, as we saw he was clicking with the other girls. Unless he really was trying to sleep with AshLee in the fantasy suite, it's an odd thing for him to say at that point. He might be less than intelligent, but he has shown to be as much a gentleman as you can expect on these shows. He already knows he hurt AshLee and he wasn't going to attack her over this accusation. It probably was just a misunderstanding of a woman hearing what she wants to hear. I thought he handled it about as well as possible.
 
I put the current odds as the following: 60% chance he selects Catherine, 35% chance he selects Lindsay, 5% chance the letter is written by Desiree and he ends up picking her.



The funny thing is even though I would not have selected either of the two finalists, I think that there is a pretty good chance that whoever he picks of the two, they will get married and have a pretty successful marriage. Both of these woman seem like the will follow and do pretty much whatever Sean wants.
I'm going the complete opposite way. I don't see this one lasting. Call it playing the odds if you want. Two of the past bachelor/bachelorette pairs is married at this point...I don't count Jason and Molly b/c he didn't pick her initially. I just think that the deck is stacked against you.-The competition aspect artificially inflates the "status" of the bachelor/ette. I mean, seriously, what are the odds that all those girls really want to marry him? Just like he found flaws in them, I'm sure many would find flaws in him.

-The tabloids are on you like white on rice

-The fame you get after the show airs makes it hard to stay true, not to mention that you can't go out in public for a while due to the show airing.

-Lastly, you've got to learn how to date and survive like a normal couple. i.e. You can't take a helicopter on every date in the real world.
I agree it's not going to last. Assuming he picks Catherine, I doubt they end up getting married. I suppose it's possible if they really want to delude themselves into it. But it seems like Sean, with family pressure, will be the type that isn't going to rush into anything. If he does propose, I'm thinking a long engagement to see if they really are right for each other outside the show. And I don't think they are. Sean seems to be obsessed with finding someone he can be goofy with, but Sean and Catherine come off as not being ready for a mature relationship when they are together. Catherine's sisters obviously don't think she is ready for one, and that was a white flag he ignored. Perhaps they do get married just to try to prove people wrong, but I definitely don't see it lasting.
 
From what I understand, it's in the contract that ABC pretty much owns you if you end up getting married as a result of the show and that's one of the big reasons more of them don't end up getting hitched.

 
'jwp said:
From what I understand, it's in the contract that ABC pretty much owns you if you end up getting married as a result of the show and that's one of the big reasons more of them don't end up getting hitched.
Can you elaborate? I'm sure there are things like, "We get to air your wedding on TV," and probably required appearances, etc. But I can't imagine that would prevent people from getting married if they were really in love. I think the real issue is that they meet and date in a fantasy world. When they get to the real world, unless they're really grounded, they're done for. The show is dating done backwards. It'd be like getting engaged to a girl you met on a Vegas weekend, and then you date in the real world.
 
I put the current odds as the following: 60% chance he selects Catherine, 35% chance he selects Lindsay, 5% chance the letter is written by Desiree and he ends up picking her.



The funny thing is even though I would not have selected either of the two finalists, I think that there is a pretty good chance that whoever he picks of the two, they will get married and have a pretty successful marriage. Both of these woman seem like the will follow and do pretty much whatever Sean wants.
I'm going the complete opposite way. I don't see this one lasting. Call it playing the odds if you want. Two of the past bachelor/bachelorette pairs is married at this point...I don't count Jason and Molly b/c he didn't pick her initially. I just think that the deck is stacked against you.-The competition aspect artificially inflates the "status" of the bachelor/ette. I mean, seriously, what are the odds that all those girls really want to marry him? Just like he found flaws in them, I'm sure many would find flaws in him.

-The tabloids are on you like white on rice

-The fame you get after the show airs makes it hard to stay true, not to mention that you can't go out in public for a while due to the show airing.

-Lastly, you've got to learn how to date and survive like a normal couple. i.e. You can't take a helicopter on every date in the real world.
I totally agree that the odds of people having successful marriages after this show is very remote. That is why I said it was a funny thing that I think a successful marriage might come out of this season. I was commenting more on the personalities of the remaining girls then I was on the truly horrible job this show does of bringing two people together for marriage.

 
Sean and AshLee disagreeing on whether he said he wasn't into the other two girls during the overnight -- awkward.
He was totally lying about never having said that. Just look at his body language during that.
Agreed. If what she was saying was a lie then he would've gotten angry about her impugning his integrity. Remember how he reacted to Dez's brother. insteadall he could do was smile and say I didn't say that.
Yep. Dude was flat busted.
I'm not so sure. He's going to call out a guy on national TV, but I doubt he was going to call out a girl. He's gone out of his way to always compliment the girls and not throw them under the bus.His reaction to me was one of, "WTF did she just say?"

I thought he did a great job of apologizing for something he didn't say to not make her look bad on TV.

And she's just crazy enough to twist something she thought she heard into something she thinks actually happened because of all the pain she went through. She hasn't been married for 15 years for a reason folks.
I agree with this. It seems like a strange thing for him to say on that day, as we saw he was clicking with the other girls. Unless he really was trying to sleep with AshLee in the fantasy suite, it's an odd thing for him to say at that point. He might be less than intelligent, but he has shown to be as much a gentleman as you can expect on these shows. He already knows he hurt AshLee and he wasn't going to attack her over this accusation. It probably was just a misunderstanding of a woman hearing what she wants to hear. I thought he handled it about as well as possible.
Me, three. My wife thinks Ashlee is telling the truth. I think she's a nutty and heard what she wanted to hear. He probably was slightly intoxicated and said more than he meant to, but I seriously doubt he said felt nothing for the other two girls. His reaction seemed pretty genuine given the circumstances...especially after seeing the "off-air" conversation.
 
Standing in line at the check out last night I noticed on one of the magazines (US, people, whatever) a blurb that he's now cheating with Emily. Doesn't surprise me at all if true. I could see those 2 working out a deal back in her season to play it this way. The more I see of this dude the more I think he's a total fabrication out for publicity/self aggrandizement and nothing else - i.e. Desiree's bro was 100% right.

 
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Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?

 
Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?
Man, that's a tough call for me. That stump really skeeves me out. I definitely wouldn't Marry Sarah because her personality is really annoying, but if there was a perfect girl otherwise with the same stump....tough one.
 
Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?
Man, that's a tough call for me. That stump really skeeves me out. I definitely wouldn't Marry Sarah because her personality is really annoying, but if there was a perfect girl otherwise with the same stump....tough one.
One armed Kate Beckinsale. Do you marry her?
 
Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?
The stump honestly disturbs me, especially when it moves.
 
Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?
The stump honestly disturbs me, especially when it moves.
I did enjoy it the other night when she clapped with it. Then I felt like a bit of an ### for getting a chuckle out of it. :bag:
 
Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?
The stump honestly disturbs me, especially when it moves.
I did enjoy it the other night when she clapped with it. Then I felt like a bit of an ### for getting a chuckle out of it. :bag:
I think a girl has to have a sense of humor about that sort of thing. Like if you sent her to Fantasy Referee Camp for her birthday, he'd need to laugh about it.
 
Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?
The stump honestly disturbs me, especially when it moves.
I did enjoy it the other night when she clapped with it. Then I felt like a bit of an ### for getting a chuckle out of it. :bag:
I noticed that. I asked my wife, "Why ould you clap with your stump; why not just slap your hand on your knee?" She was not amused.Sarah is WHINEY. Stump or no stump, she is annoying as hell.ETA:The wiggly stump creeps me out.
 
Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?
Problem is she's not hot enough to use as an example. I personally don't find her very attractive at all even with a full armThere was a blonde model recently who got her arm chopped off when she walked through an airplane propeller on a photo shoot. Probably better example for this scenario.
 
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Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?
The stump honestly disturbs me, especially when it moves.
Ever see that Seinfeld episode where Kramer starts shaving with butter, then uses it all over his body because of how smooth it makes his skin? He ends up suntanning and gets burnt golden brown. This leads to a scene later on where Newman wants to eat him. He pictures Kramer's head on a turkey, and Turkey Kramer turns to Newman and says "hey buddy" while waving his short little chicken wing.That's what I think of every time Sarah would move that stump.
 
Is having one arm a deal-breaker for you guys? I'd probably marry a Sarah if everything else clicked and she weren't so timid and meek. My family wouldn't be happy, but a hot one armed girl is better than an average 2 armed one, no?
The stump honestly disturbs me, especially when it moves.
Ever see that Seinfeld episode where Kramer starts shaving with butter, then uses it all over his body because of how smooth it makes his skin? He ends up suntanning and gets burnt golden brown. This leads to a scene later on where Newman wants to eat him. He pictures Kramer's head on a turkey, and Turkey Kramer turns to Newman and says "hey buddy" while waving his short little chicken wing.That's what I think of every time Sarah would move that stump.
:lmao: :lmao:

 
Standing in line at the check out last night I noticed on one of the magazines (US, people, whatever) a blurb that he's now cheating with Emily. Doesn't surprise me at all if true. I could see those 2 working out a deal back in her season to play it this way. The more I see of this dude the more I think he's a total fabrication out for publicity/self aggrandizement and nothing else - i.e. Desiree's bro was 100% right.
There's no shame in admitting that you subscribe to US Weekly. You're amongst friends... very gay, Bachelor-watching friends.
 
Standing in line at the check out last night I noticed on one of the magazines (US, people, whatever) a blurb that he's now cheating with Emily. Doesn't surprise me at all if true. I could see those 2 working out a deal back in her season to play it this way. The more I see of this dude the more I think he's a total fabrication out for publicity/self aggrandizement and nothing else - i.e. Desiree's bro was 100% right.
There's no shame in admitting that you subscribe to US Weekly. You're amongst friends... very gay, Bachelor-watching friends.
Yesterday, I left the office at lunch. Stopped by Hobby Lobby to buy some glitter paint for an art project for my daughter, then went home and watched "The Ladies Tell All" on DVR. About as gay as it gets.
 
Standing in line at the check out last night I noticed on one of the magazines (US, people, whatever) a blurb that he's now cheating with Emily. Doesn't surprise me at all if true. I could see those 2 working out a deal back in her season to play it this way. The more I see of this dude the more I think he's a total fabrication out for publicity/self aggrandizement and nothing else - i.e. Desiree's bro was 100% right.
There's no shame in admitting that you subscribe to US Weekly. You're amongst friends... very gay, Bachelor-watching friends.
Yesterday, I left the office at lunch. Stopped by Hobby Lobby to buy some glitter paint for an art project for my daughter, then went home and watched "The Ladies Tell All" on DVR. About as gay as it gets.
unless you were sipping a white wine spritzer.
 
Standing in line at the check out last night I noticed on one of the magazines (US, people, whatever) a blurb that he's now cheating with Emily. Doesn't surprise me at all if true. I could see those 2 working out a deal back in her season to play it this way. The more I see of this dude the more I think he's a total fabrication out for publicity/self aggrandizement and nothing else - i.e. Desiree's bro was 100% right.
There's no shame in admitting that you subscribe to US Weekly. You're amongst friends... very gay, Bachelor-watching friends.
Yesterday, I left the office at lunch. Stopped by Hobby Lobby to buy some glitter paint for an art project for my daughter, then went home and watched "The Ladies Tell All" on DVR. About as gay as it gets.
Were you, by chance, wearing leather cheekless chaps on your errand run?
 
Standing in line at the check out last night I noticed on one of the magazines (US, people, whatever) a blurb that he's now cheating with Emily. Doesn't surprise me at all if true. I could see those 2 working out a deal back in her season to play it this way. The more I see of this dude the more I think he's a total fabrication out for publicity/self aggrandizement and nothing else - i.e. Desiree's bro was 100% right.
There's no shame in admitting that you subscribe to US Weekly. You're amongst friends... very gay, Bachelor-watching friends.
Yesterday, I left the office at lunch. Stopped by Hobby Lobby to buy some glitter paint for an art project for my daughter, then went home and watched "The Ladies Tell All" on DVR. About as gay as it gets.
Were you, by chance, wearing leather cheekless chaps on your errand run?
I'm wearing gold lame dolphin shorts right now. Can bust out the chaps on demand however.
 

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