The Birther Conspiracy Thread (2 Viewers)

[ren hoek]

So this is where political discourse is at now, huh? Labeling the opposition with embarassing nicknames like "birthers" and "truthers" and "teabaggers" instead of engaging them in a real discussion. Good to see we're still a nation of 6 year olds.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

So this is where political discourse is at now, huh? Labeling the opposition with embarassing nicknames like "birthers" and "truthers" and "teabaggers" instead of engaging them in a real discussion. Good to see we're still a nation of 6 year olds.

Certain beliefs deserve derision.

 

[bueno]

How has this not gotten more play in the FFA? Or do we just all agree that Rick Perry is a nutjob?

Saying "I don't know" qualifies as a nutty statement now?

When it's akin to saying you aren't sure if the world is round, yes, yes it does.

Actually, the world isn't round. Bulges at the equator, flattens at the poles.

 

[The Commish]

So you would prefer Perry lie?He was asked a question. He responded with honesty, "I don't know." How is that bad in any context?

If that's his honest answer it's a glaring piece of evidence to the fact the guy is out of touch. That isn't bad? How's that saying go? It's better to keep your mouth shut and keep them guessing than to open it and remove all doubt" or something like that. That applies here.

Maybe it was an issue he felt wasn't worth nearly as much attention as you seem to think it's worth....

I don't think he can possibly think it's any less worthy than me. If he did, "I don't know" is the last answer he should have used. Laughing in the guy's face would have been a better response than "I don't know"

 

[The Commish]

How has this not gotten more play in the FFA? Or do we just all agree that Rick Perry is a nutjob?

Saying "I don't know" qualifies as a nutty statement now?

When it's akin to saying you aren't sure if the world is round, yes, yes it does.

Actually, the world isn't round. Bulges at the equator, flattens at the poles.

Touche

 

[jonessed]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

 

[badmojo1006]

So you would prefer Perry lie?He was asked a question. He responded with honesty, "I don't know." How is that bad in any context?

If that's his honest answer it's a glaring piece of evidence to the fact the guy is out of touch. That isn't bad? How's that saying go? It's better to keep your mouth shut and keep them guessing than to open it and remove all doubt" or something like that. That applies here.

Maybe it was an issue he felt wasn't worth nearly as much attention as you seem to think it's worth....

Well then why did he bring it up in the Parade interview? Then, less than 24 hours later, he called it a big distraction?

 

[The Commish]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

So you would prefer Perry lie?He was asked a question. He responded with honesty, "I don't know." How is that bad in any context?

If that's his honest answer it's a glaring piece of evidence to the fact the guy is out of touch. That isn't bad? How's that saying go? It's better to keep your mouth shut and keep them guessing than to open it and remove all doubt" or something like that. That applies here.

Maybe it was an issue he felt wasn't worth nearly as much attention as you seem to think it's worth....

How would you feel if Perry was asked if Iraq had WMDs in the early 90s and he said "I don't know"?

see, to put this whole birth certificate "issue" on the same level as WMDs is really just....wow....

 

[jonessed]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? How would you know? How would anyone know? It's logical to assume that someone could not have gotten this far without verification, but I'm not running around personally checking all the documents.Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter.

 

[TobiasFunke]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

 

[CBusAlex]

Do the people in France speak French? I don't know. I've never been there, so I can't verify that.

 

[The Commish]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? How would you know? How would anyone know? It's logical to assume that someone could not have gotten this far without verification, but I'm not running around personally checking all the documents.Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter.

Oh come on!!

 

[The Commish]

Do the people in France speak French? I don't know. I've never been there, so I can't verify that.

I've been and will tell you if you can tell me if electrons really exist. I've never seen one to be able to verify.

 

[jonessed]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

What are you talking about? I can watch a recording of the World Series and it's documented in thousands of newspapers on the day it occurred. Your average Joe's birth doesn't garner that kind of recording or evidence.If anyone wants to send me a video recording of their birth and a snippet from the local newspaper I would scratch them off of my "I can't officially verify were you were born, but I will assume it's wherever you say" list.

Edit: I really don't know what the media has done to actually verify any of this. This thing got so hyped everything I have seen is just people yammering at each other. It's certainly possible that a reliable source has actually verified it somehow.

 

[TobiasFunke]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

What are you talking about? I can watch a recording of the World Series and it's documented in thousands of newspapers on the day it occurred. Your average Joe's birth doesn't garner that kind of recording or evidence.If anyone wants to send me a video recording of their birth and a snippet from the local newspaper I would scratch them off of my "I can't officially verify were you were born, but I will assume it's wherever you say" list.

Do you have to pay royalties to Christo on this silly cross-examination style parsing of words shtick? Come on, you're better than this.

 

[Mister Martie]

How can we really "know" anything, maaaaaan?

This has to be shtick.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

FWIW, I did not know that, and didn't even know that the Rangers were in the World Series. I would expect Rick Perry to know more about political stuff, however, than I know about baseball stuff. I'm not throwing my hat into the ring to become MLB Commissioner.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

What are you talking about? I can watch a recording of the World Series and it's documented in thousands of newspapers on the day it occurred. Your average Joe's birth doesn't garner that kind of recording or evidence.If anyone wants to send me a video recording of their birth and a snippet from the local newspaper I would scratch them off of my "I can't officially verify were you were born, but I will assume it's wherever you say" list.

Edit: I really don't know what the media has done to actually verify any of this. This thing got so hyped everything I have seen is just people yammering at each other. It's certainly possible that a reliable source has actually verified it somehow.

Just stop already.

 

[jonessed]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

What are you talking about? I can watch a recording of the World Series and it's documented in thousands of newspapers on the day it occurred. Your average Joe's birth doesn't garner that kind of recording or evidence.If anyone wants to send me a video recording of their birth and a snippet from the local newspaper I would scratch them off of my "I can't officially verify were you were born, but I will assume it's wherever you say" list.

Do you have to pay royalties to Christo on this silly cross-examination style parsing of words shtick? Come on, you're better than this.

Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.Come to think of it, there really isn't much evidence of most people's births. Not unless you were someone of importance anyway. You would have a birth certificate and maybe a hospital recording, but I've seen fake birth certificates (although I couldn't really say how good they were). I imagine a recording in a local paper would be the best evidence.

I assume Obama was born in the US, but I don't know for sure. That's the best answer I could give based on what I know. If that outrages you or makes me a "birther" then so be it.

 

[B-Deep]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

What are you talking about? I can watch a recording of the World Series and it's documented in thousands of newspapers on the day it occurred. Your average Joe's birth doesn't garner that kind of recording or evidence.If anyone wants to send me a video recording of their birth and a snippet from the local newspaper I would scratch them off of my "I can't officially verify were you were born, but I will assume it's wherever you say" list.

Do you have to pay royalties to Christo on this silly cross-examination style parsing of words shtick? Come on, you're better than this.

Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.Come to think of it, there really isn't much evidence of most people's births. Not unless you were someone of importance anyway. You would have a birth certificate and maybe a hospital recording, but I've seen fake birth certificates (although I couldn't really say how good they were). I imagine a recording in a local paper would be the best evidence.

I assume Obama was born in the US, but I don't know for sure. That's the best answer I could give based on what I know. If that outrages you or makes me a "birther" then so be it.

Did George Bush orchestrate the destruction of the world trade center?I assume you and Rick Perry would answer you don't know...

 

[TobiasFunke]

Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.

I'm gonna assume this is shtick because I like you too much to think otherwise. Unless maybe you were stuck in a remote canyon 127 Hours-style or something when this happened? I'll assume it's one of the two.

However, I'm pretty sure Perry was not stuck in a canyon or otherwise indisposed at that time, which means his comments are also either shtick or the statements of a moron or lunatic. No matter which, it's not very presidential. Although, sadly, those characteristics do seem to be increasingly frequent in the GOP presidential field, so I guess he kind of fits in there.

 

[jonessed]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

What are you talking about? I can watch a recording of the World Series and it's documented in thousands of newspapers on the day it occurred. Your average Joe's birth doesn't garner that kind of recording or evidence.If anyone wants to send me a video recording of their birth and a snippet from the local newspaper I would scratch them off of my "I can't officially verify were you were born, but I will assume it's wherever you say" list.

Do you have to pay royalties to Christo on this silly cross-examination style parsing of words shtick? Come on, you're better than this.

Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.Come to think of it, there really isn't much evidence of most people's births. Not unless you were someone of importance anyway. You would have a birth certificate and maybe a hospital recording, but I've seen fake birth certificates (although I couldn't really say how good they were). I imagine a recording in a local paper would be the best evidence.

I assume Obama was born in the US, but I don't know for sure. That's the best answer I could give based on what I know. If that outrages you or makes me a "birther" then so be it.

Did George Bush orchestrate the destruction of the world trade center?I assume you and Rick Perry would answer you don't know...

That's true. I actually don't know for sure. Based on the evidence I have seen I don't think he did, but I couldn't say with 100% certainty that he didn't.I would say there is a lot more evidence surrounding 911 than any particular indivudal birth record though.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.

I'm gonna assume this is shtick because I like you too much to think otherwise. Unless maybe you were stuck in a remote canyon 127 Hours-style or something when this happened? I'll assume it's one of the two.

However, I'm pretty sure Perry was not stuck in a canyon or otherwise indisposed at that time, which means his comments are also either shtick or the statements of a moron or lunatic. No matter which, it's not very presidential. Although, sadly, those characteristics do seem to be increasingly frequent in the GOP presidential field, so I guess he kind of fits in there.

obvious fake

 

[B-Deep]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

What are you talking about? I can watch a recording of the World Series and it's documented in thousands of newspapers on the day it occurred. Your average Joe's birth doesn't garner that kind of recording or evidence.If anyone wants to send me a video recording of their birth and a snippet from the local newspaper I would scratch them off of my "I can't officially verify were you were born, but I will assume it's wherever you say" list.

Do you have to pay royalties to Christo on this silly cross-examination style parsing of words shtick? Come on, you're better than this.

Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.Come to think of it, there really isn't much evidence of most people's births. Not unless you were someone of importance anyway. You would have a birth certificate and maybe a hospital recording, but I've seen fake birth certificates (although I couldn't really say how good they were). I imagine a recording in a local paper would be the best evidence.

I assume Obama was born in the US, but I don't know for sure. That's the best answer I could give based on what I know. If that outrages you or makes me a "birther" then so be it.

Did George Bush orchestrate the destruction of the world trade center?I assume you and Rick Perry would answer you don't know...

That's true. I actually don't know for sure. Based on the evidence I have seen I don't think he did, but I couldn't say with 100% certainty that he didn't.I would say there is a lot more evidence surrounding 911 than any particular indivudal birth record though.

So you acknowledge that you don't know who caused 9/11 and you do not know that it was not all a grand plan by bush.

I'd love to see perry acknowledge that as well

 

[jonessed]

Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.

I'm gonna assume this is shtick because I like you too much to think otherwise. Unless maybe you were stuck in a remote canyon 127 Hours-style or something when this happened? I'll assume it's one of the two.

However, I'm pretty sure Perry was not stuck in a canyon or otherwise indisposed at that time, which means his comments are also either shtick or the statements of a moron or lunatic. No matter which, it's not very presidential. Although, sadly, those characteristics do seem to be increasingly frequent in the GOP presidential field, so I guess he kind of fits in there.

No, I didn't realize a complete birth certificate was ever released, but I stopped following the story long before it was. I have a tendency to gloss over things I have no interest in. I don't know the circumstances of the release, but if it was through the hospital and it was verified as original then that would be enough for me.

 

[jonessed]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

What are you talking about? I can watch a recording of the World Series and it's documented in thousands of newspapers on the day it occurred. Your average Joe's birth doesn't garner that kind of recording or evidence.If anyone wants to send me a video recording of their birth and a snippet from the local newspaper I would scratch them off of my "I can't officially verify were you were born, but I will assume it's wherever you say" list.

Do you have to pay royalties to Christo on this silly cross-examination style parsing of words shtick? Come on, you're better than this.

Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.Come to think of it, there really isn't much evidence of most people's births. Not unless you were someone of importance anyway. You would have a birth certificate and maybe a hospital recording, but I've seen fake birth certificates (although I couldn't really say how good they were). I imagine a recording in a local paper would be the best evidence.

I assume Obama was born in the US, but I don't know for sure. That's the best answer I could give based on what I know. If that outrages you or makes me a "birther" then so be it.

Did George Bush orchestrate the destruction of the world trade center?I assume you and Rick Perry would answer you don't know...

That's true. I actually don't know for sure. Based on the evidence I have seen I don't think he did, but I couldn't say with 100% certainty that he didn't.I would say there is a lot more evidence surrounding 911 than any particular indivudal birth record though.

So you acknowledge that you don't know who caused 9/11 and you do not know that it was not all a grand plan by bush.

I'd love to see perry acknowledge that as well

I've seen enough evidence to assume it wasn't Bush, but no, I can't say for 100% certainty that it wasn't a grand government conspiracy headed by Bush.

 

[Christo]

He doesn't know, but isn't worried about it. Why would this outrage anyone? It's the most logical answer he can give.

It shouldn't outrage anyone, but it should be a little red flag indicating a problem with general knowledge and/or common sense.

So you're telling me everybody has personally verified all of this? Perry assumes Obama is a citizen, but he doesn't know for sure. It's the answer I would probably give for just about any President, or any person for that matter. It's the most accurate anwer anyone can give.

Oh, stop. This isn't a court of law. You can "know" things secondhand in the real world based on mountains of reports through the media. For example, I assume you would say you "know" that the Rangers won Game 5 of the World Series even though probably you weren't actually at the game. I assume you'd even say that if you didn't watch the game.

What are you talking about? I can watch a recording of the World Series and it's documented in thousands of newspapers on the day it occurred. Your average Joe's birth doesn't garner that kind of recording or evidence.If anyone wants to send me a video recording of their birth and a snippet from the local newspaper I would scratch them off of my "I can't officially verify were you were born, but I will assume it's wherever you say" list.

Do you have to pay royalties to Christo on this silly cross-examination style parsing of words shtick? Come on, you're better than this.

We should set up a system of FBG credits for this.

 

[CBusAlex]

Did Ronald Reagan keep a harem of sex slaves in the White House dungeon? I don't know. I've never even seen the dungeon.

 

[17seconds]

So you would prefer Perry lie?He was asked a question. He responded with honesty, "I don't know." How is that bad in any context?

If that's his honest answer it's a glaring piece of evidence to the fact the guy is out of touch. That isn't bad? How's that saying go? It's better to keep your mouth shut and keep them guessing than to open it and remove all doubt" or something like that. That applies here.

Maybe it was an issue he felt wasn't worth nearly as much attention as you seem to think it's worth....

How would you feel if Perry was asked if Iraq had WMDs in the early 90s and he said "I don't know"?

see, to put this whole birth certificate "issue" on the same level as WMDs is really just....wow....

They are both situations where the truth was sought out for some time and then very publicly revealed.Saying "I don't know" to anything like that is a very strange response.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.

I'm gonna assume this is shtick because I like you too much to think otherwise. Unless maybe you were stuck in a remote canyon 127 Hours-style or something when this happened? I'll assume it's one of the two.

However, I'm pretty sure Perry was not stuck in a canyon or otherwise indisposed at that time, which means his comments are also either shtick or the statements of a moron or lunatic. No matter which, it's not very presidential. Although, sadly, those characteristics do seem to be increasingly frequent in the GOP presidential field, so I guess he kind of fits in there.

my understanding is that was abstract of the original long form.

 

[B-Deep]

Did Ronald Reagan keep a harem of sex slaves in the White House dungeon? I don't know. I've never even seen the dungeon.

Did Gorbechev bring down the berlin wall after a passionate night of lovemaking with the gipper?

I don't know.

 

[Joe T]

So far we have compared knowledge of Obama's birth certificate to the following:

Abraham Lincoln walking on the moon

French people speaking French

Bush blowing up the World Trade Center

Reagan having a dungeon of sex slaves

Yep, those are all the same thing. End of story. Please lock the thread up now, this mystery has been solved.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Does JoeT have a white man fro? YES.

 

[TobiasFunke]

So far we have compared knowledge of Obama's birth certificate to the following:

Abraham Lincoln walking on the moon

French people speaking French

Bush blowing up the World Trade Center

Reagan having a dungeon of sex slaves

Yep, those are all the same thing. End of story. Please lock the thread up now, this mystery has been solved.

Maybe they're all the same thing. Maybe they're not. We don't know.

 

[Joe T]

So far we have compared knowledge of Obama's birth certificate to the following:

Abraham Lincoln walking on the moon

French people speaking French

Bush blowing up the World Trade Center

Reagan having a dungeon of sex slaves

Yep, those are all the same thing. End of story. Please lock the thread up now, this mystery has been solved.

Maybe they're all the same thing. Maybe they're not. We don't know.

The fact that this thread exists amazes me. But maybe it doesn't.

 

[urbanhack]

So far we have compared knowledge of Obama's birth certificate to the following:Abraham Lincoln walking on the moonFrench people speaking FrenchBush blowing up the World Trade CenterReagan having a dungeon of sex slavesYep, those are all the same thing. End of story. Please lock the thread up now, this mystery has been solved.

As always....thanks for your input Joe. You blogging this one up?

 

[Joe T]

I'm not sure why this is news or why timschochet bumped this thread with his usual non-thought provoking copy and paste style.

Perry basically said, I don't know but it's a non-issue. How is that news?

As usual, its an easy way to get around talking about real issues like jobs or the economy to drag up 2 year old news stories that no one on earth gives a #### about.

Perhaps you should ask Perry why he's bringing it back up? The talking heads last night were suggesting that it's a ploy by Perry to drum up/energize support from the ~ 25% of the Republican base who still believe Obama isn't a citizen.

He didn't bring it up. Here is a link to the original interview that may help you: Link to Parade Magazine inteview.

HTH

 

[badmojo1006]

Did Ronald Reagan keep a harem of sex slaves in the White House dungeon? I don't know. I've never even seen the dungeon.

No, that is where Frank Sinatra banged Nancy

 

[B-Deep]

So far we have compared knowledge of Obama's birth certificate to the following:Abraham Lincoln walking on the moonFrench people speaking FrenchBush blowing up the World Trade CenterReagan having a dungeon of sex slavesYep, those are all the same thing. End of story. Please lock the thread up now, this mystery has been solved.

Are you saying the sex dungeon was lincoln's?I asked perry, he said he did not know.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Did Ronald Reagan keep a harem of sex slaves in the White House dungeon? I don't know. I've never even seen the dungeon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbizzLzcpnM

 

[B-Deep]

I'm not sure why this is news or why timschochet bumped this thread with his usual non-thought provoking copy and paste style.

Perry basically said, I don't know but it's a non-issue. How is that news?

As usual, its an easy way to get around talking about real issues like jobs or the economy to drag up 2 year old news stories that no one on earth gives a #### about.

Perhaps you should ask Perry why he's bringing it back up? The talking heads last night were suggesting that it's a ploy by Perry to drum up/energize support from the ~ 25% of the Republican base who still believe Obama isn't a citizen.

He didn't bring it up. Here is a link to the original interview that may help you: Link to Parade Magazine inteview.

HTH

wellyou weren't there

this account makes it seem like he did not bring it up, but you don't KNOW because you weren't there

please edit your post to reflect this

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Did Ronald Reagan keep a harem of sex slaves in the White House dungeon? I don't know. I've never even seen the dungeon.

No, that is where Frank Sinatra banged Nancy

Are you saying that Frank Sinatra was a diddler?

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Does anybody really know what time it is?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Does anybody really know what time it is?

25 or 6 to 4.

 

[JuniorNB]

Does anybody really know what time it is?

25 or 6 to 4.

Was that Question 67 or 68?

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Did Ronald Reagan keep a harem of sex slaves in the White House dungeon? I don't know. I've never even seen the dungeon.

No, that is where Frank Sinatra banged Nancy

I believe the term is 'shtupped'

 

[Mr. Chumley]

Not to get off topic here. I haven't read any of this thread nor do I intend to, but a quick question. I really haven't kept up with all this this but I'm curious about the fact that some say his SS# is from CT while he is from HI. Has this been debunked? If not how is that explaiined? This may have already been answered but like I said, I'm not going back throgh 75 pages to find out. I'm just don't care that much.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I'm not sure why this is news or why timschochet bumped this thread with his usual non-thought provoking copy and paste style.

Perry basically said, I don't know but it's a non-issue. How is that news?

As usual, its an easy way to get around talking about real issues like jobs or the economy to drag up 2 year old news stories that no one on earth gives a #### about.

Perhaps you should ask Perry why he's bringing it back up? The talking heads last night were suggesting that it's a ploy by Perry to drum up/energize support from the ~ 25% of the Republican base who still believe Obama isn't a citizen.

He didn't bring it up. Here is a link to the original interview that may help you: Link to Parade Magazine inteview.HTH

This:

But you’ve seen his.

I don’t know. Have I?

You don’t believe what’s been released?

I don’t know. I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night.

is bringing it back up.

 

[Sarnoff]

Not to get off topic here. I haven't read any of this thread nor do I intend to, but a quick question. I really haven't kept up with all this this but I'm curious about the fact that some say his SS# is from CT while he is from HI. Has this been debunked? If not how is that explaiined? This may have already been answered but like I said, I'm not going back throgh 75 pages to find out. I'm just don't care that much.

At the time (mid-70s), SSNs were applied for at about the age a person started working, not at birth. SSN applications were processed by local offices based on the zip code that the envelope came from, not the residency of the person applying. So if a person from Kansas mailed in the application from California, he'd get a "California" SSN, not a KS one. So Obama's application must have been sent in an envelope with a CT return address, when he was about 16 years old. At the time, his father was living in CT.There is some documentation that Obama worked at a Baskin-Robins in Hawaii a few years before that, and should have applied for an SSN then, but since he was 13 at the time, he was most likely paid "under the table" since he was not old enough to legally be employed.