The Birther Conspiracy Thread (1 Viewer)

[Maurile Tremblay]

Every truther I have ever heard on TV was a person of the left - Rosie O Donnell and Charlie Sheen come to mind. And I recall a poll taken several years ago in which a scary portion of Democrats questioned how much Bush knew beforehand. So I'm sorry NC but I didn't make this stuff up.

I think I recall reading that the percentage of Democrats who thought Bush was behind 9/11 was similar to the percentage of Republicans who thought Obama was born on foreign soil. Or something like that.

 

[NCCommish]

Every truther I have ever heard on TV was a person of the left - Rosie O Donnell and Charlie Sheen come to mind. And I recall a poll taken several years ago in which a scary portion of Democrats questioned how much Bush knew beforehand. So I'm sorry NC but I didn't make this stuff up.

So Rosie and the Wizard are your proof. Great. How about naming me a couple of prominent Democrats that actually campaigned on trutherism? Or maybe a Democratic Sheriff that spent tax dollars to investigate it?

 

[timschochet]

Every truther I have ever heard on TV was a person of the left - Rosie O Donnell and Charlie Sheen come to mind. And I recall a poll taken several years ago in which a scary portion of Democrats questioned how much Bush knew beforehand. So I'm sorry NC but I didn't make this stuff up.

So Rosie and the Wizard are your proof. Great. How about naming me a couple of prominent Democrats that actually campaigned on trutherism? Or maybe a Democratic Sheriff that spent tax dollars to investigate it?

I never wrote that it was equal. If your point is that Republicans in general lend themselves more to extremism than Democrats do, I would have to agree with you. My only point was that belief in conspiracies is not solely a Republican phenomenon.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Every truther I have ever heard on TV was a person of the left - Rosie O Donnell and Charlie Sheen come to mind. And I recall a poll taken several years ago in which a scary portion of Democrats questioned how much Bush knew beforehand. So I'm sorry NC but I didn't make this stuff up.

So Rosie and the Wizard are your proof. Great. How about naming me a couple of prominent Democrats that actually campaigned on trutherism? Or maybe a Democratic Sheriff that spent tax dollars to investigate it?

There was a congressional investigation Reagan "October surprise" which was nutty conspiracy drivel.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Every truther I have ever heard on TV was a person of the left - Rosie O Donnell and Charlie Sheen come to mind. And I recall a poll taken several years ago in which a scary portion of Democrats questioned how much Bush knew beforehand. So I'm sorry NC but I didn't make this stuff up.

So Rosie and the Wizard are your proof. Great. How about naming me a couple of prominent Democrats that actually campaigned on trutherism? Or maybe a Democratic Sheriff that spent tax dollars to investigate it?

In October 2004, the organization 9/11 Truth released a statement, signed by nearly 200 people, including many relatives of people who perished on September 11, 2001, that calls for an investigation into the attacks. It also asserted that unanswered questions would suggest that people within the administration of President George W. Bush may have deliberately allowed the attacks to happen. Actor Edward Asner, former presidential candidate Ralph Nader, former congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, former assistant secretary of housing Catherine Austin Fitts, author Richard Heinberg, Enver Masud, founder of The Wisdom Fund, professors Richard Falk of the University of California, Mark Crispin Miller of New York University, Douglas Sturm of Bucknell University, Burns H. Weston of the University of Iowa College of Law and others signed the statement. In 2009, Van Jones, a former advisor to President Obama, said he hadn't fully reviewed the statement before he signed

happy now?

 

[The Future Champs]

Every truther I have ever heard on TV was a person of the left - Rosie O Donnell and Charlie Sheen come to mind. And I recall a poll taken several years ago in which a scary portion of Democrats questioned how much Bush knew beforehand. So I'm sorry NC but I didn't make this stuff up.

So Rosie and the Wizard are your proof. Great. How about naming me a couple of prominent Democrats that actually campaigned on trutherism? Or maybe a Democratic Sheriff that spent tax dollars to investigate it?

In October 2004, the organization 9/11 Truth released a statement, signed by nearly 200 people, including many relatives of people who perished on September 11, 2001, that calls for an investigation into the attacks. It also asserted that unanswered questions would suggest that people within the administration of President George W. Bush may have deliberately allowed the attacks to happen. Actor Edward Asner, former presidential candidate Ralph Nader, former congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, former assistant secretary of housing Catherine Austin Fitts, author Richard Heinberg, Enver Masud, founder of The Wisdom Fund, professors Richard Falk of the University of California, Mark Crispin Miller of New York University, Douglas Sturm of Bucknell University, Burns H. Weston of the University of Iowa College of Law and others signed the statement. In 2009, Van Jones, a former advisor to President Obama, said he hadn't fully reviewed the statement before he signed

happy now?

Last time I checked, Ralph Nader wasn't a Democrat. Otherwise, this is a bunch of no-names and who-cares.ETA:

Cynthia McKinney left the Democratic Party in 2007. She's now a member of the Green Party.

From Wikipedia: Fitts served as managing director and member of the board of directors of the Wall Street investment bank Dillon, Read & Co. Inc., as Assistant Secretary of Housing and Federal Housing[1] Commissioner at the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development in the first Bush Administration.

So, maybe a Republican?

 

[matuski]

The craziest one yet. A guy in Alaska is suing the state, trying to force it to get a "verified" copy of Obama's birth certificate to prove that he's qualified to be on the ballot. He also alleges that Obama, by taking office, has committed the crime of trying overthrow the U.S. government. Finally, he alleges that Nancy Pelosi has no right to serve in Congress because she's a woman. "There are no provisions in the Constitution of the United States that grants Women 'Political Rights' of Suffrage to hold any Political Office of the United States Government." Awesome.

This guy gets it.

 

[squistion]

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/01/619371/steve-king-birther/

Rep. King Goes Birther: Suggests Obama’s Parents Telegrammed Fake Hawaii Birth Announcement From Kenya

During a tele-townhall meeting late last week, King was asked about his views on whether President Obama is a natural-born American citizen. The Iowa Congressman noted that his staff had investigated the matter and found birth announcements in the two Hawaii newspapers the week after Obama’s birth. However, King went on to float the absurd notion that his parents “might’ve announced that by telegram from Kenya.”

KING: We went down into the Library of Congress and we found a microfiche there of two newspapers in Hawaii each of which had published the birth of Barack Obama. It would have been awfully hard to fraudulently file the birth notice of Barack Obama being born in Hawaii and get that into our public libraries and that microfiche they keep of all the newspapers published. That doesn’t mean there aren’t some other explanations on how they might’ve announced that by telegram from Kenya. The list goes on. But drilling into that now, even if we could get a definitive answer and even if it turned out that Barack Obama was conclusively not born in America, I don’t think we could get that case sold between now and November.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Republicans are kooks.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/01/619371/steve-king-birther/

Rep. King Goes Birther: Suggests Obama’s Parents Telegrammed Fake Hawaii Birth Announcement From Kenya

During a tele-townhall meeting late last week, King was asked about his views on whether President Obama is a natural-born American citizen. The Iowa Congressman noted that his staff had investigated the matter and found birth announcements in the two Hawaii newspapers the week after Obama’s birth. However, King went on to float the absurd notion that his parents “might’ve announced that by telegram from Kenya.”

KING: We went down into the Library of Congress and we found a microfiche there of two newspapers in Hawaii each of which had published the birth of Barack Obama. It would have been awfully hard to fraudulently file the birth notice of Barack Obama being born in Hawaii and get that into our public libraries and that microfiche they keep of all the newspapers published. That doesn’t mean there aren’t some other explanations on how they might’ve announced that by telegram from Kenya. The list goes on. But drilling into that now, even if we could get a definitive answer and even if it turned out that Barack Obama was conclusively not born in America, I don’t think we could get that case sold between now and November.

:shrugs:anything's possible, I suppose ...

 

[Apple Jack]

There are like six kids out there with a bunch of piercings and tattoos taking too much bad ecstasy who make up the entire truther movement. Like the entire Republican Party were on board with the birther thing.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

There are like six kids out there with a bunch of piercings and tattoos taking too much bad ecstasy who make up the entire truther movement.

And Alex Jones.

 

[Don Quixote]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:

"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

 

[B-Deep]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

of course no one asks to see a white man's birth certificateracists

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

of course no one asks to see a white man's birth certificateracists

He could easily be Canadian. I've seen some Canadians that look a lot like him.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

This might be the dumbest thing he's said yet.

 

[The Commish]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

This might be the dumbest thing he's said yet.

Game changer!

 

[Sam Quentin]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

 

[squistion]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

Who says the Romney campaign is getting desperate.

 

[NCCommish]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

There is actually a small group of Romney birthers out there.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

 

[Topes]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:

"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

of course no one asks to see a white man's birth certificateracists

He could easily be Canadian. I've seen some Canadians that look a lot like him.

Intriguing.

 

[Sam Quentin]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

in context it is kind of funny

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

I think Romney's birth certificate joke is fine. (I think it was more a dig at birthers than it was at Obama, although birthers won't realize it.) The bigger news from that article is this: "It’s one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach." (Quote from the Obama campaign.)Really? Donald Trump and Sheriff Arpaio? Are they going to have speaking roles at the convention? If so, that's a complete embarrassment.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Hey everyone, stop asking me about my tax returns and rape and budget details . . . here's a birther joke for you to talk about until the convention dominates the news. kthxbai!

 

[Sarnoff]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

I think Romney's birth certificate joke is fine. (I think it was more a dig at birthers than it was at Obama, although birthers won't realize it.) The bigger news from that article is this: "It’s one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach." (Quote from the Obama campaign.)Really? Donald Trump and Sheriff Arpaio? Are they going to have speaking roles at the convention? If so, that's a complete embarrassment.

I think they'll trot out Trump just long enough for him to get out "Mr. President--you're fired!". Putting Sheriff Joe up on stage would be a terrible move.

 

[Widbil83]

Some heads are going to be exploding on MSNBC tonight.

 

[Paul Bremer]

This thread is completely controlled by Obots.

 

[badmojo1006]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

in context it is kind of funny

No it's not

 

[badmojo1006]

This thread is completely controlled by Obots.

What is an Obot?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

This thread is completely controlled by Obots.

What is an Obot?

I think he forgot to spell it 0bot.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

I think Romney's birth certificate joke is fine. (I think it was more a dig at birthers than it was at Obama, although birthers won't realize it.) The bigger news from that article is this: "It’s one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach." (Quote from the Obama campaign.)Really? Donald Trump and Sheriff Arpaio? Are they going to have speaking roles at the convention? If so, that's a complete embarrassment.

Is this post shtick?

 

[Colts Win]

Every truther I have ever heard on TV was a person of the left - Rosie O Donnell and Charlie Sheen come to mind. And I recall a poll taken several years ago in which a scary portion of Democrats questioned how much Bush knew beforehand. So I'm sorry NC but I didn't make this stuff up.

I think when you have tiger blood and Adonis DNA you can vote for both parties at the same time.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

I think Romney's birth certificate joke is fine. (I think it was more a dig at birthers than it was at Obama, although birthers won't realize it.) The bigger news from that article is this: "It’s one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach." (Quote from the Obama campaign.)Really? Donald Trump and Sheriff Arpaio? Are they going to have speaking roles at the convention? If so, that's a complete embarrassment.

Is this post shtick?

No. Which part would lead you to think so?

 

[Ursa M]

Should we combine this with the Akin thread and the other threads on GOP lunatics so we'll have them all nicely filed together?

Could set a record for thread length.

 

[Todd Andrews]

RMoney cozying up to the birther kooks is hilarious. Guy cant get out of his own way. And Arpaio at the GOP convention is nuts.

 

[Lutherman2112]

Sherriff Joe is speaking at an invitation only event in Tampa during the convention.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio to speak at Republican National Convention

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

I think Romney's birth certificate joke is fine. (I think it was more a dig at birthers than it was at Obama, although birthers won't realize it.) The bigger news from that article is this: "It’s one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach." (Quote from the Obama campaign.)Really? Donald Trump and Sheriff Arpaio? Are they going to have speaking roles at the convention? If so, that's a complete embarrassment.

Is this post shtick?

No. Which part would lead you to think so?

Did you view the video? He drops this bit about being born at a specific hospital in MI and says no one asked to see his birth certificate. No wry smile. No glib smirk. Just stands there and basks in the applause. You really think this was a dig on the Birthers?Kevin Madden. Who is a lousy Romney surrogate, claimed via Twitter that this was Mitt highlighting just how Pure Michigan he is. So strange.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Two minutes after that little sugar plum Mitt tells the crowd we need a president who isn't divisive.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I think Romney's birth certificate joke is fine. (I think it was more a dig at birthers than it was at Obama, although birthers won't realize it.)

I get that, but it's an inevitable fact of life that his opposition will jump all over this, and any semi-decent politician would have known that. If you're the Republican nominee for president, you can't talk about the birther issue, even ironically. Period.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Did you view the video? He drops this bit about being born at a specific hospital in MI and says no one asked to see his birth certificate. No wry smile. No glib smirk. Just stands there and basks in the applause. You really think this was a dig on the Birthers?

I don't think Romney was saying: Nobody asked to see my birth certificate because, unlike Obama, I wasn't born in Kenya.I think it was closer to: Nobody asked to see my birth certificate because, unlike Obama, I was fortunate enough to escape at least that bit of fringe insanity.

But I don't find Romney all that easy to read, so who knows?

 

[B-Deep]

Did you view the video? He drops this bit about being born at a specific hospital in MI and says no one asked to see his birth certificate. No wry smile. No glib smirk. Just stands there and basks in the applause. You really think this was a dig on the Birthers?

I don't think Romney was saying: Nobody asked to see my birth certificate because, unlike Obama, I wasn't born in Kenya.I think it was closer to: Nobody asked to see my birth certificate because, unlike Obama, I was fortunate enough to escape at least that bit of fringe insanity.

But I don't find Romney all that easy to read, so who knows?

oh come oni don't for a second think mitt is dumb enough to be a birther, and never was

but if he said this he knew it would be picked up on and he;d have to pass it off as a joke, and he knew birther types would LOVE it

he is not an idiot, he knew all the nuances of saying that before he did it, and it absolutely was a jab at Obama and a wink to the birthers, he's smart enough to now play it off like it wasn't. Obama's been taking his jabs at Romney as well, you have to expect a little of this.

It's not a travesty, it does not mean he is a birther, it was a ding at the other guy that appeals to a segment of his base.

 

[badmojo1006]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

I think Romney's birth certificate joke is fine. (I think it was more a dig at birthers than it was at Obama, although birthers won't realize it.) The bigger news from that article is this: "It’s one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach." (Quote from the Obama campaign.)Really? Donald Trump and Sheriff Arpaio? Are they going to have speaking roles at the convention? If so, that's a complete embarrassment.

Trump for sure is speaking at the convention

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Did you view the video? He drops this bit about being born at a specific hospital in MI and says no one asked to see his birth certificate. No wry smile. No glib smirk. Just stands there and basks in the applause. You really think this was a dig on the Birthers?

I don't think Romney was saying: Nobody asked to see my birth certificate because, unlike Obama, I wasn't born in Kenya.I think it was closer to: Nobody asked to see my birth certificate because, unlike Obama, I was fortunate enough to escape at least that bit of fringe insanity.

But I don't find Romney all that easy to read, so who knows?

Wow.

 

[Topes]

Hey, it'll keep folks' minds off rape and abortion headed into the convention.

Next Friday he can make another remark conflating taxes and tithing, and steer it all away again.

All I'm saying is it might not necessarily be a bad move. Might be better to have the press at the RNC focusing on Orly Taitz than Kirk Cameron.

 

[NCCommish]

Did you view the video? He drops this bit about being born at a specific hospital in MI and says no one asked to see his birth certificate. No wry smile. No glib smirk. Just stands there and basks in the applause. You really think this was a dig on the Birthers?

I don't think Romney was saying: Nobody asked to see my birth certificate because, unlike Obama, I wasn't born in Kenya.I think it was closer to: Nobody asked to see my birth certificate because, unlike Obama, I was fortunate enough to escape at least that bit of fringe insanity.

But I don't find Romney all that easy to read, so who knows?

Apparently Rush doesn't have that problem. He called it a direct attack on Obama and that we should expect to hear it going forward and into the convention.

 

[NCCommish]

Oh and it should be noted that there will be 7 speakers at the convention that have given some level of credence to birther claims.

 

[drummer]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

Really? Donald Trump and Sheriff Arpaio? Are they going to have speaking roles at the convention? If so, that's a complete embarrassment.

Yeah, I find that a bit ridiculous as well.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

I hope Arpaio and his posse have a big reveal at the convention.

 

[pantagrapher]

I think Romney's birth certificate joke is fine. (I think it was more a dig at birthers than it was at Obama, although birthers won't realize it.)

I get that, but it's an inevitable fact of life that his opposition will jump all over this, and any semi-decent politician would have known that. If you're the Republican nominee for president, you can't talk about the birther issue, even ironically. Period.

I'm actually fine with the joke, too. And maybe he means for Obama and company to jump on it. I kind of hope they don't. Romney is the one seen as overly sensitive at this point. The Obama campaign needs to brush this off.