The Birther Conspiracy Thread (1 Viewer)

[urbanhack]

"When Ann and I go swimming, no one jokes that we can't swim.""When I attended Harvard, no one suggested that I couldn't afford it without Federal loans.""When I lived overseas for a few years, no one asked if I was being indoctrinated by a socialist world view.""When I supported abortion rights, no one ever asked me if that was my final answer.""When I received my million dollar trust fund, no one asked me to pay it back.""At no time during the birth of my children did anyone ever suspect them of being terror babies. I think that's an important distinction in this race."

 

[Todd Andrews]

Tim's problem is he knows better and then still votes for the person doing the reprehensible stuff he whines and weeps about. For example, Tim is filled with deep shame because he knows the Tea Party and birthers are racist and vile, and he now sees RMoney shamelessly exploit that scummy segment of the GOP, so Tim will wail how sad and embarrassing and wrong it all is....and then he will go vote for RMoney. Pathetic.

Sorry Todd, I'm not filled with deep shame at all.

Romney is a moderate Republican who is pro-business. He is exactly the guy he was when he ran against Ted Kennedy. Ever since then he's had to adopt all of this crap in order to get the nomination from today's Republican party. In so doing he's had to be dishonest. It's distasteful to me; I could never be that dishonest. I believe that Mitt Romney secretly thinks about the Tea Party the same thing I think about them, but he can't say it out loud. Has my respect for Romney gone down because he's been forced to pander to the loonies? You bet. Is it lame and embarrassing? You bet.

But what about the people who believed in gay marriage and yet voted for Obama in 2008? Were you one of them, Todd? Did it bother you that Obama was opposed to gay marriage, and thus, in your eyes, a hateful bigot? Does it bother you that Obama has done nothing in 4 years about the political prisoners being held illegally in Guantamano? Does it concern you that he has given in to Republicans at every turn, such as when he extended the Bush tax cuts despite saying he wouldn't?

Putting political philosophy aside, if there was a saint out there, or even a reasonable good person of strong integrity, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. If Jed Bartlet were running in this election, that's who would get my vote. But he's not running. So our choices are these two clowns. I support Romney for reasons that I have explained repeatedly. But it doesn't excite me too much.

OK, now this is flat out full bore I apologize Todd. Point taken and recognized.

Thank you, drummer. So let me see if I have this straight, Timscrote. You would vote Jed Bartlet in a heartbeat but instead you are going to vote for the totally dishonest lame and embarrassing guy who espouses a ton of crap and caters to the loonies because you truly believe that secretly in his deepest inner heart he thinks like you do and not like he says he does.

Is that about right?

I notice you didn't answer my questions about Obama? Why don't you answer them first, and then I will respond to you, as I always have.

I am about realpolitik, so while I was disgusted that he hadnt come to where I was yet on gay marriage, given the rest of the positions I agreed with Obama on in comparison with McCain, it was a nobrainer to vote for Obama. Guantanamo is a disappointment, although I was never a huge fan of shutting it down. Military commissions as formulated dont make sense but I am fine with how Obama has dealt with those issues. I am fine with Obama compromising with Republicans and adopting a centrist approach. You reward obstructionist extremists, I reward centrist compromisers who try to govern maturely.You lose.

 

[SacramentoBob]

"When Ann and I go swimming, no one jokes that we can't swim.""When I attended Harvard, no one suggested that I couldn't afford it without Federal loans.""When I lived overseas for a few years, no one asked if I was being indoctrinated by a socialist world view.""When I supported abortion rights, no one ever asked me if that was my final answer.""When I received my million dollar trust fund, no one asked me to pay it back.""At no time during the birth of my children did anyone ever suspect them of being terror babies. I think that's an important distinction in this race."

 

[timschochet]

I am about realpolitik, so while I was disgusted that he hadnt come to where I was yet on gay marriage, given the rest of the positions I agreed with Obama on in comparison with McCain, it was a nobrainer to vote for Obama.

I love you Todd, but you actually have the chutzpah to write this with a straight face after all the #### you've been giving me for months now? What a ####### hypocrite.

 

[Todd Andrews]

I am about realpolitik, so while I was disgusted that he hadnt come to where I was yet on gay marriage, given the rest of the positions I agreed with Obama on in comparison with McCain, it was a nobrainer to vote for Obama.

I love you Todd, but you actually have the chutzpah to write this with a straight face after all the #### you've been giving me for months now? What a ####### hypocrite.

You didnt answer my question above like you promised, liar.Obama said he was getting rid of dont ask dont tell and DOMA and every gay person and gay rights supporting person on earth except the repressed latent homosexual Republicans (64.7% of the GOP) and you were supporting him. So let me see if I get this straight: you think a guy who says he personally believes that marriage is between a man and a woman but who will advocate for and pass laws to equalize the legal landscape is the same as a guy who says he is against even civil unions and who says he wants to pass an amendment to the Constitution banning gay marriage in every state? You really are dense.

 

[timschochet]

I am about realpolitik, so while I was disgusted that he hadnt come to where I was yet on gay marriage, given the rest of the positions I agreed with Obama on in comparison with McCain, it was a nobrainer to vote for Obama.

I love you Todd, but you actually have the chutzpah to write this with a straight face after all the #### you've been giving me for months now? What a ####### hypocrite.

You didnt answer my question above like you promised, liar.Obama said he was getting rid of dont ask dont tell and DOMA and every gay person and gay rights supporting person on earth except the repressed latent homosexual Republicans (64.7% of the GOP) and you were supporting him. So let me see if I get this straight: you think a guy who says he personally believes that marriage is between a man and a woman but who will advocate for and pass laws to equalize the legal landscape is the same as a guy who says he is against even civil unions and who says he wants to pass an amendment to the Constitution banning gay marriage in every state? You really are dense.

You have stated several times, unequivocally, that ANYONE who is opposed to the legalization of gay marriage, for any reason, is a hateful bigot. Anyone. You didn't mention DADT, or DOMA, or other gay rights. You didni't offer any exceptions. In your rush to condemn others as being morally inferior to yourself, you created a black and white, either-or world. Now you must live in it. In 2008, by YOUR STANDARDS, you voted for a hateful bigot, and you are an enabler. Those aren't my standards; I would hate to live with such lack of nuance, and I don't. But you do. I will answer your question in my next post.

 

[timschochet]

So let me see if I have this straight, Timscrote. You would vote Jed Bartlet in a heartbeat but instead you are going to vote for the totally dishonest lame and embarrassing guy who espouses a ton of crap and caters to the loonies because you truly believe that secretly in his deepest inner heart he thinks like you do and not like he says he does. Is that about right?

Yes, that's about right. It's not the main reason I'm voting for Romney- as I've stated several times, I believe he has a better chance of bringing about the sort of bipartisan compromise so desperately needed. But everything you wrote is substantially correct. I would also add that I really do like Barack Obama, even though I disagree with him on a few decisive issues. If Obama wins, I won't be very disappointed at all. The two keys for me this election cycle was Mitt Romney winning the nomination and Mitt Romney choosing someone for VP who wasn't a populist idiot. Once those two things happened, I am content with whatever the final result. But the process does disgust me at times.

 

[Maelstrom]

So let me see if I have this straight, Timscrote. You would vote Jed Bartlet in a heartbeat but instead you are going to vote for the totally dishonest lame and embarrassing guy who espouses a ton of crap and caters to the loonies because you truly believe that secretly in his deepest inner heart he thinks like you do and not like he says he does.

Is that about right?

Yes, that's about right. It's not the main reason I'm voting for Romney- as I've stated several times, I believe he has a better chance of bringing about the sort of bipartisan compromise so desperately needed. But everything you wrote is substantially correct. I would also add that I really do like Barack Obama, even though I disagree with him on a few decisive issues. If Obama wins, I won't be very disappointed at all. The two keys for me this election cycle was Mitt Romney winning the nomination and Mitt Romney choosing someone for VP who wasn't a populist idiot. Once those two things happened, I am content with whatever the final result. But the process does disgust me at times.

A number of people have told you that you are wrong in this opinion. Rather than bringing about compromise, it will embolden the techniques the GOP and the Tea Party in particular are using, and those techniques will be adopted by the Dems as well. Maybe, just maybe, by showing the Tea Party their stunts aren't working, we'll slowly swing this two parties back towards the moderate center again. Unlikely...but maybe.Oh, and a person can feel strongly about one thing and still vote for someone that stands against that one thing because they are the better candidate. That doesn't make them a hypocrite, it makes them a mature person able to make good decisions.

 

[timschochet]

So let me see if I have this straight, Timscrote. You would vote Jed Bartlet in a heartbeat but instead you are going to vote for the totally dishonest lame and embarrassing guy who espouses a ton of crap and caters to the loonies because you truly believe that secretly in his deepest inner heart he thinks like you do and not like he says he does.

Is that about right?

Yes, that's about right. It's not the main reason I'm voting for Romney- as I've stated several times, I believe he has a better chance of bringing about the sort of bipartisan compromise so desperately needed. But everything you wrote is substantially correct. I would also add that I really do like Barack Obama, even though I disagree with him on a few decisive issues. If Obama wins, I won't be very disappointed at all. The two keys for me this election cycle was Mitt Romney winning the nomination and Mitt Romney choosing someone for VP who wasn't a populist idiot. Once those two things happened, I am content with whatever the final result. But the process does disgust me at times.

A number of people have told you that you are wrong in this opinion. Rather than bringing about compromise, it will embolden the techniques the GOP and the Tea Party in particular are using, and those techniques will be adopted by the Dems as well. Maybe, just maybe, by showing the Tea Party their stunts aren't working, we'll slowly swing this two parties back towards the moderate center again. Unlikely...but maybe.Oh, and a person can feel strongly about one thing and still vote for someone that stands against that one thing because they are the better candidate. That doesn't make them a hypocrite, it makes them a mature person able to make good decisions.

Per the bolded: I 100% agree with you. What makes Todd a hypocrite is not that he does this himself, but that he condemns others for it.As for the first part,. I recognize that my view of this is none too popular. But I think the way I think. Obviously, if Obama wins (and frankly, I expect him to) then I hope that what you wrote will happen. I fear it won't.

 

[Sarnoff]

Nice to see Romney cozying up to the birthers:"Romney: 'No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place where we were born and raised!'"

dumb statement.I think it should be shown and I'd be curious enough to see it.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-birther-joke/2012/08/24/8edd2574-ee0a-11e1-afd8-097e90f99d05_blog.html

I think this is the single most offensive thing said by any 2012 presidential candidate.subtext - "I'm the true American in this race, not the scary muslim foreign black guy"What a pompous f#####g a##h##e.

you seem angry

Yeah I know you righties are gonna laugh but this one really bothered me. I've always thought Mitt was a good guy but the more of these mind-numbing moments of arrogance he has the less I like him.

Hussein himself jokes about it all the time, get over yourself, geesh.

https://store.barackobama.com/obama-2012-store-home-outdoors/obama-2012-store-kitchen/made-in-the-usa-mug.html?source=socnet_20120825_BO_FB_USA_MUG2_MERCH&utm_medium=fb&utm_source=bo_fb&utm_campaign=socnet_20120825_BO_FB_USA_MUG2_MERCH

 

[Maelstrom]

So let me see if I have this straight, Timscrote. You would vote Jed Bartlet in a heartbeat but instead you are going to vote for the totally dishonest lame and embarrassing guy who espouses a ton of crap and caters to the loonies because you truly believe that secretly in his deepest inner heart he thinks like you do and not like he says he does.

Is that about right?

Yes, that's about right. It's not the main reason I'm voting for Romney- as I've stated several times, I believe he has a better chance of bringing about the sort of bipartisan compromise so desperately needed. But everything you wrote is substantially correct. I would also add that I really do like Barack Obama, even though I disagree with him on a few decisive issues. If Obama wins, I won't be very disappointed at all. The two keys for me this election cycle was Mitt Romney winning the nomination and Mitt Romney choosing someone for VP who wasn't a populist idiot. Once those two things happened, I am content with whatever the final result. But the process does disgust me at times.

A number of people have told you that you are wrong in this opinion. Rather than bringing about compromise, it will embolden the techniques the GOP and the Tea Party in particular are using, and those techniques will be adopted by the Dems as well. Maybe, just maybe, by showing the Tea Party their stunts aren't working, we'll slowly swing this two parties back towards the moderate center again. Unlikely...but maybe.Oh, and a person can feel strongly about one thing and still vote for someone that stands against that one thing because they are the better candidate. That doesn't make them a hypocrite, it makes them a mature person able to make good decisions.

Per the bolded: I 100% agree with you. What makes Todd a hypocrite is not that he does this himself, but that he condemns others for it.As for the first part,. I recognize that my view of this is none too popular. But I think the way I think. Obviously, if Obama wins (and frankly, I expect him to) then I hope that what you wrote will happen. I fear it won't.

Don't mistake my small bit of hope for real optimism. I don't expect it to change regardless of who is elected. But I fear the chance of Romney pandering to the Tea Party much more than I fear Obama and the chance of gridlock (again).

 

[Todd Andrews]

I am about realpolitik, so while I was disgusted that he hadnt come to where I was yet on gay marriage, given the rest of the positions I agreed with Obama on in comparison with McCain, it was a nobrainer to vote for Obama.

I love you Todd, but you actually have the chutzpah to write this with a straight face after all the #### you've been giving me for months now? What a ####### hypocrite.

You didnt answer my question above like you promised, liar.Obama said he was getting rid of dont ask dont tell and DOMA and every gay person and gay rights supporting person on earth except the repressed latent homosexual Republicans (64.7% of the GOP) and you were supporting him. So let me see if I get this straight: you think a guy who says he personally believes that marriage is between a man and a woman but who will advocate for and pass laws to equalize the legal landscape is the same as a guy who says he is against even civil unions and who says he wants to pass an amendment to the Constitution banning gay marriage in every state? You really are dense.

You have stated several times, unequivocally, that ANYONE who is opposed to the legalization of gay marriage, for any reason, is a hateful bigot. Anyone. You didn't mention DADT, or DOMA, or other gay rights. You didni't offer any exceptions. In your rush to condemn others as being morally inferior to yourself, you created a black and white, either-or world. Now you must live in it. In 2008, by YOUR STANDARDS, you voted for a hateful bigot, and you are an enabler. Those aren't my standards; I would hate to live with such lack of nuance, and I don't. But you do. I will answer your question in my next post.

Um, when did I write that? What time was I talking about? Do you think I was talking about 1999? Do you think I was talking about 1967? I was talking about now. Thank you for playing but you need to practice or something because you are really bad at this.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Mitt Romney is guilty of treason because he's not enough of a birther.

 

[Apple Jack]

Mitt Romney is guilty of treason because he's not enough of a birther.

at the link to a John Rocker-written piece.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Mitt Romney is guilty of treason because he's not enough of a birther.

Treason is a very serious crime. I never would have thought Willard was a traitor, but it appears he must be. Sad.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Mitt Romney is guilty of treason because he's not enough of a birther.

at the link to a John Rocker-written piece.

Pitching Politics

 

[Fennis]

This thread is completely controlled by Obots.

What is an Obot?

about 180 pounds

 

[Paul Bremer]

Obama makes birth claims fair game.

 

[Topes]

Why do you call him Hussein? Did you call Bill Clinton "Jefferson"?

There were a couple (hip, cool) Llibertarians on the Commonwealth Club last summer. I listened to the show in the car, on my local NPR. One of them repeatedly referred to Obama as Barack Hussein Obama. I suspect it was a case where he didn't think at all of his broadcast audience. Using the "Barack Hussein Obama" line plays well to the Republican and Tea Party bases, but it's not particularly suited to mixed company, especially when one is trying to not sound like an ######.

 

[Fennis]

Obama makes birth claims fair game.

claim away

 

[The Commish]

 

[Radio Free Homer]

YES!!!

 

[badmojo1006]

YES!!!

OFFS And the Sec of State, Kris Kobach, is an advisor to Romney

 

[Maelstrom]

YES!!!

OFFS And the Sec of State, Kris Kobach, is an advisor to Romney

Does it really matter? Romney is likely to win Kansas anyways, right? And it would clearly be a partisan ploy if they actually removed him, I doubt it would cause a landslide of other states doing the same. Realistically, it would be appealed and probably work it's way up pretty quick (compared to most appeals) given the timing.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

god ####### dammit

 

[badmojo1006]

YES!!!

OFFS And the Sec of State, Kris Kobach, is an advisor to Romney

Does it really matter? Romney is likely to win Kansas anyways, right? And it would clearly be a partisan ploy if they actually removed him, I doubt it would cause a landslide of other states doing the same. Realistically, it would be appealed and probably work it's way up pretty quick (compared to most appeals) given the timing.

You are probably right it will go no where, but why?? Why are they doing this? Most people in this country are really really tired of this birther crap. It will backfire on them

 

[Maelstrom]

YES!!!

OFFS And the Sec of State, Kris Kobach, is an advisor to Romney

Does it really matter? Romney is likely to win Kansas anyways, right? And it would clearly be a partisan ploy if they actually removed him, I doubt it would cause a landslide of other states doing the same. Realistically, it would be appealed and probably work it's way up pretty quick (compared to most appeals) given the timing.

You are probably right it will go no where, but why?? Why are they doing this? Most people in this country are really really tired of this birther crap. It will backfire on them

Oh I seriously agree that they should stop with it. It didn't work in 2008, and once he was elected once, it isn't like it's going to work now.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Truly a dizzying intellect.

 

[The Commish]

 

[fatness]

Obama makes birth claims fair game.

BremerBot™ appearance.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

...aaaand . . . it's over.

Kansas Birther Case Ends

 

[Radio Free Homer]

...aaaand . . . it's over.

Kansas Birther Case Ends

Saw that. SOOOOOO PISSED!

 

[fatness]

...aaaand . . . it's over.

Kansas Birther Case Ends

There's still hope.

UPDATE: 7:06 p.m. -- The Kansas secretary of state's office sent out a statement Friday saying that the state Objections Board will meet as scheduled Monday morning. The statement said the meeting, which starts at 10 a.m. CT, will consider Montgomery's complaint and his decision to withdraw the objection. Kobach's spokeswoman, Kay Curtis, told the Topeka Capitol-Journal that the withdrawal is "unprecedented" and the meeting would be held to accept it.

Maybe Orly will show up to set things straight.

 

[fatness]

Sheriff Joe and his call for Congressional investigation of fraudulent documents.

Saturday, September 22, 2012

Program: 11:00 am - 1:30 pm

Doors open 10:00 am

Featured Guests/Speakers:

Pat Boone

LTC Terry Lakin

Sheriff Joe Arpaio

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Seating is in the Round

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(No performances available)

The Greater Phoenix Tea Party Patriots group has pulled the plug on Pat Boone and Sheriff Joe Arpaio, cancelling their Sept. 22 “Birther” bash at the city’s Celebrity Theatre “due to inadequate ticket sales.”

 

[fatness]

If you love your country, please help me fight this creeping tyranny and corruption. Donations no matter how small will help pay for airline and travel expenses.

DVD of the historic trial in GA and DVD of a historic testimony in NH, where evidence was provided showing Obama using a forged birth certificate and a stolen social security number. The DVDs are in a beautiful commemorative case with personal autographs from attorney Dr. Orly Taitz $22.50 each +$2.50 for shipping and handling.

God, Dr. Taitz, I think you are on the brink of making history!!!

 

[Captain Quinoa]

God, Dr. Taitz, I think you are on the brink of making history!!!

Is this from the Yandek interview?

 

[fatness]

God, Dr. Taitz, I think you are on the brink of making history!!!

Is this from the Yandek interview?

It's a comment from a reader on the page I linked.

 

[fatness]

Orly!

At the hearing I brought 2 main points:

1. Original objector to Obama’s candidacy Joseph Montgomery withdrew his objection under duress. It was widely published that he was under duress. He, his family and co-workers were harassed with e-mails and phone calls. I forwarded to the Sec of State all of the evidence. I argued to him that duress negates the intent. If the withdrawal was under duress, it is invalid. I gave him an example of rape. If a rape victim withdraws her criminal complaint against a thug who raped her because she is under duress, because he threatens to kill her and her family, such withdrawal of criminal complaint is invalid, as it was under duress.

Koback claims that he did not receive evidence of duress. It was a complete lie. I forwarded to him evidence of duress and his attorney Ryan Kriegshouser confirmed that he received it.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Did he compare it to legitimate rape or regular rape?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

LOL @ this

 

[The Commish]

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

LOL @ this

Did they make that with instagram?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

LOL @ this

Did they make that with instagram?

THE TRUTH MUST BE KNOWN

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

LOL @ this

Hilarious.

 

[General Malaise]

LOL @ this

You know, for about 10 minutes I was actually thinking about voting for Romney. Now? Forget it. I'm backing the Kenyan. The people who back him may be poorer, but my god, they aren't nearly this stupid.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

That "baby Barack" is like six months old.

 

[adonis]

The phone interview with the person said to be releasing it is entertaining too.

Apparently the guy wants Donald Trumps 5 million dollar reward.

 

[matuski]

LOL @ this

wow

 

[Sarnoff]

Wait, is there any indication anyone seriously considered this "proof" and not some joke?

 

[Sam Quentin]

Wait, is there any indication anyone seriously considered this "proof" and not some joke?

shhhh