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The Birther Conspiracy Thread (1 Viewer)

'apalmer said:
'pizzatyme said:
Apparently only Christians are "birthers"? That's how the story reads to me.
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Then you need reading lessons.
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"Op-Ed: Why Christians shouldn't be 'birthers'If faith is an important value for people, and love to be the driving force of Christian ethics, there appears to be hypocrisy in refuting the arguments of agnostics and atheists about the birth and death of Jesus while claiming a birth certificate backed up by physical evidence of a contemporary man should not be trusted"Seems pretty clear to me what they were saying.
 
'pizzatyme said:
'apalmer said:
'pizzatyme said:
Apparently only Christians are "birthers"? That's how the story reads to me.
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Then you need reading lessons.
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"Op-Ed: Why Christians shouldn't be 'birthers'If faith is an important value for people, and love to be the driving force of Christian ethics, there appears to be hypocrisy in refuting the arguments of agnostics and atheists about the birth and death of Jesus while claiming a birth certificate backed up by physical evidence of a contemporary man should not be trusted"Seems pretty clear to me what they were saying.
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"Why Christians shouldn't be liars" does not mean only Christians are liars. "Why Christians shouldn't be socialists" does not mean only Christians are socialists. The point of the article is that there is a certain hypocrisy applicable to Christians who are birthers, not that only Christians are birthers. I think it's a weak argument, but it's not the argument you are claiming.
 
'quickhands said:
'jwp said:
's&m said:
While I couldn't give a flying flip either way, the article is full of crap, as is the poster/defender of the crap. Go ahead and show me proof of even 10% of anyones birth and death dates at the time of Christ and in that region. Then compare that to the more recent period in the United States with it's birth certificates and documentations of birth and death in all the states. One era is based upon unreliable written words and accounts passed for thousands of years. Versus. An era of a nation full of various documentations of it's legal citizens. More crap comparison that is thought to be intelligent and insightful by the insipid.
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Any Christian/birther is a hypocrite of the highest order. That's what the article says to me. The Easter holiday got me thinking about it earlier today.
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Why would you spend even one minute thinking of that? But ill play along. what do the details of christs have to do with obama's?
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It is interesting to compare and contrast Christ with the anti-Christ. :shrug:
 
September 23, 2013
Obama's reckoning to come on November 19!
Klayman Calls for the Masses to Force Resignation of Convicted President

By Larry Klayman

Last Wednesday, the great usurper, Barack Hussein Obama, after having been indicted by an Ocala, Florida citizens' grand jury, was convicted by a people's court of defrauding the American people and Floridians by proffering them with a fake birth certificate. See www.citizensgrandjury.com. As readers of this column and www.wnd.com know too well, Obama is not a natural born citizen eligible to be president of the United States, as he was not born in this country to two American citizen parents. However, to justify his fraud and his elections to the highest office in the land, and after years of inquiry, in 2011 the Obama White House posted on its website a birth certificate purporting to show him having been born in Hawaii. The problem is however, according to forensic experts, the birth certificate is altered and forged.

The day of reckoning has come. Obama, having failed to plead in response to the indictment that was served upon him, waived his right to a jury trial. Thumbing his nose at We the People, as the citizens' prosecutor, I appeared before a citizens' court judge and presented evidence from Cold Case Posse investigator Michael Zullo showing that Obama tricked voters into electing him in 2008 and 2012. As a result, the citizens' judge found him guilty on two counts of falsifying information to federal and state election officials. He was thus sentenced to the maximum prison term for these offenses of 10 years, and ordered to immediately surrender himself into the custody of the citizens of the United States and Florida.

Of course, Obama will not willingly obey the law of the people. He will attempt to hide behind the iron fences of the White House, perhaps cowering under his desk for fear that the people will rise up and demand his ouster.

On November 19, 2013, a day that will hopefully live on in the history of our once great republic, I call upon millions of Americans who have been appalled and disgusted by Obama's criminality – his Muslim, socialist, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, anti-white, pro-illegal immigrant, pro-radical gay and lesbian agenda – among other outrages, to descend on Washington, D.C., en masse, and demand that he leave town and resign from office if he does not want to face prison time.

I further propose that we borrow the techniques perfected and used by such epic crusaders such as Mahatma Gandhi, to show Obama and his enablers that the American people are more than fed up and will not take it any more. The millions who are being summoned to our nation's capital should, like Gandhi did in India and South Africa, peacefully shut the city down, by blocking roads and massing in front of the White House chanting for Obama to get out of our nation's capital. In addition, I propose bringing the victims of his reign of terror to a podium across from the White House in Lafayette Park to give their testimony on how he has singularly severely harmed and in some instances even killed their loved ones through his actions.

In the words of Thomas Paine in the days leading up to the first American Revolution, "these are the times that try men's souls." The nation under Obama and even his inert and castrated political opponents, the Republican Party, have driven our country into the bowels of impending doom. The moral and ethical fabric, our economic underpinnings, and our national confidence and prestige are in the tank. Russia has become the leading world power, however evil and compromised under its communist KGB leader Vladimir Putin. The United States is a mere shell of its prior self under real modern leaders like Presidents John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan, to name just a few.

We must act now. Our Founding Fathers pledged their sacred honor, fortunes, and lives to form a new nation under God. They knew that the odds of defeating the British were not great, save for His Divine grace and intervention. Now, 237 years after they signed the Declaration of Independence in my native city of Philadelphia, the nation has come full circle to the tyranny that has been imposed by a new despot, one far more evil than King George III. King George III may have been a greedy "control freak," but at least he was a Christian. The United States is being run by a Muslim bent on furthering an Islamic caliphate who seeks to destroy our spirituality and the body politic of our Judeo-Christian roots.

Life is not easy. It requires risk and sacrifice. If as a nation we want to restore our freedom, and we are on the verge of being enslaved under Obama's socialist Muslim inclinations, we must take our fight to a new level. Tea partiers, bikers, construction workers, police officers, school teachers, farmers, truckers, clergy, housewives, husbands, students, doctors, lawyers and all elements of our society who see our nation slipping away into the abyss, must now stand tall and descend on the capital, much like the Egyptians recently did in ousting another radical Muslim, their then president Mohammed Morsi. If the Egyptians can seek to rid their country of the poison of the Muslim Brotherhood without any real history of democracy, then we Americans, who know what democracy is and have practiced it prior to the ascension of the great usurper, can and must succeed.

Obama has now been convicted of having defrauded the American people into electing him as president. Even more so than Nixon during Watergate, he has no legitimacy to remain president and must be forced to resign. If We the People do not demand justice and remove him from office, then we will be furthering his fraud and we will have no one but ourselves to blame for the death of the greatest nation ever to have been on this earth.

In the words of one of our great Founding Fathers and an architect of our Constitution, "we must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin walked the walk along with the likes of George Washington, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson. Let us now walk in their footsteps and march into to Washington, D.C., this November 19th, and rid the nation of the criminal who lurks in our White House. Let us send a message to the other corrupt government officials of all political persuasions, that this is our nation, not theirs. Let's "Occupy Washington" and restore freedom to our shores!

© Larry Klayman
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What Larry doesn't seem to realize is he and his IQ challenged followers had a chance to enact a democratic remedy. They lost. What he is calling for here borders on insurrection. Last I checked that can get you a visit from federal authorities with bad attitudes.

 
NCCommish said:
What Larry doesn't seem to realize is he and his IQ challenged followers had a chance to enact a democratic remedy. They lost. What he is calling for here borders on insurrection. Last I checked that can get you a visit from federal authorities with bad attitudes.
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?? They have the law on their side. Didn't you read it? There is a citizen's judge who sentenced Obama to 10 years in prison.
 
Now, 237 years after they signed the Declaration of Independence in my native city of Philadelphia, the nation has come full circle to the tyranny that has been imposed by a new despot, one far more evil than King George III. King George III may have been a greedy "control freak," but at least he was a Christian. The United States is being run by a Muslim bent on furthering an Islamic caliphate who seeks to destroy our spirituality and the body politic of our Judeo-Christian roots.


... If the Egyptians can seek to rid their country of the poison of the Muslim Brotherhood without any real history of democracy, then we Americans, who know what democracy is and have practiced it prior to the ascension of the great usurper, can and must succeed.
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We Americans, who know what democracy is, must rise up to overthrow a democratically elected President. Why? Because he is not a Christian, and in our democracy that mandates separation of religion and state, we must judge our democratically elected President on the basis of his religion.


 
timschochet said:
NCCommish said:
What Larry doesn't seem to realize is he and his IQ challenged followers had a chance to enact a democratic remedy. They lost. What he is calling for here borders on insurrection. Last I checked that can get you a visit from federal authorities with bad attitudes.
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?? They have the law on their side. Didn't you read it? There is a citizen's judge who sentenced Obama to 10 years in prison.
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My bad. Well then I guess Larry should just march right into the White House and drag the usurper out :popcorn:

 
roadkill1292 said:
It's getting a little uncomfortable for me to keep picking on birthers. Clubbing baby seals, yadda yadda.
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Not me. I wear all white so I can see the splatters better afterward.

Who knew that the Internet's enduring acheivement would be to embolden the dumbest, crank-governed 20% of society to crawl out of their isolated caves, find one another and start doing stupid #### in unison.

 
A group billing itself as the "Independent Truckers of America" has vowed to flood the nation's roadways this weekend with a "Ride For The Constitution" in order to "save our nation" from "domestic enemies such as Barack Obama, John Kerry, Lindsay Graham and John McCain."

According to the Ride For The Constitution website, this "Truckers Shutdown" will feature "potentially hundreds of thousands of truckers and millions of citizens" converging Friday through Sunday on the nation's capital. There will also be affiliated rallies at rest areas and displays on highway overpasses. The faces of this event are a right wing radio host, outspoken gun activist and "libtard" hater Mark Kessler, as well as a former trucker who believes President Barack Obama is "a radical Islamist."

The Ride For The Constitution site describes the event as having started based on a Facebook group that was created by a "former trucker" named Zeeda Andrews and her friend Benjamin. Andrews has an active personal Facebook page where she has posted a slew of political statements including; that "Obama's Birth Certificate is a fraud," the Muslim Brotherhood controls the White House, and a graphic encouraging her Facebook friends to say "#### ALLAH."
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fatness said:
The Ride For The Constitution site describes the event as having started based on a Facebook group that was created by a "former trucker" named Zeeda Andrews and her friend Benjamin. Andrews has an active personal Facebook page where she has posted a slew of political statements including; that "Obama's Birth Certificate is a fraud," the Muslim Brotherhood controls the White House, and a graphic encouraging her Facebook friends to say "#### ALLAH."
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wdcrob said:
Who knew that the Internet's enduring achievement would be to embolden the dumbest, crank-governed 20% of society to crawl out of their isolated caves, find one another and start doing stupid #### in unison.
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Lutherman2112 said:
In the words of Thomas Paine in the days leading up to the first American Revolution, "these are the times that try men's souls."
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How can a true American not know enough American history to make this claim? Thomas Paine wrote those words in December of 1776--well into the Revolutionary War, not leading to it. I suspect this writer wasn't born in the US.

 
SacramentoBob said:
matuski said:
The General said:
Fire it back up!

HERE
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I'm not saying I believe it, but this article is very interesting.
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This and the fact that he lied about not living with his uncle in the 80s says all I need to know.
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Gotta love the excuse for that lie...his staff claimed that they never originally asked Barry about it but got the info from his book...when they finally asked him (which was coincidentally after his illegal alien Uncle spilled the beans) he gave them the correct info...does anyone really believe this BS...not sure if that's the same book with the "composite" girlfriend which is another fib that makes me chuckle every time I hear it...seriously, a "composite" girlfriend"...if Barry was Pinnochio his nose would the the size of Rhode Island...

 
Developing.....

For some reason, Barack Obama is using the social security number of one Harry Bounel.

Press release

Law offices of Orly Taitz

Judge Hollander in Maryland gives Attorney Orly Taitz 21 days to file a second amended complaint and add allegations in regards to an improper withholding by the Social Security Administration of records of Harry Bounel, whose Social security number is being illegally used by Barack Obama. When Taitz filed the complaint, SSA did not respond at all. After the law suit was filed, SSA responded by fraudulently claiming that the records were not found. Taitz responded that this is a fraudulent assertion, since the records were found before and denied to another petitioner due to privacy concerns, however Social Security has no right to claim privacy as according to their own 120 year rule they have a duty to release the records. The judge stated that the plaintiff Taitz might be correct, however at this time she cannot rule in her favor as her original complaint was filed before SSA responded, so the judge gave Taitz an opportunity to refile a second amended complaint and add new allegations, stating the SSA responded but improperly hidden the records . This is a great development. This all but assures that the judge will order the SSA to release the SS-5, Social Security application of resident of CT, Harrison (Harry) Bounel, whose CT SSN 042-68-4425 was stolen by Obama and used in Obama’s 2009 tax returns, which initially were posted on WhiteHouse.gov without proper redaction, without flattening of the file .
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