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The Birther Conspiracy Thread (1 Viewer)

I'm not sure why this is news or why timschochet bumped this thread with his usual non-thought provoking copy and paste style.

Perry basically said, I don't know but it's a non-issue. How is that news?

As usual, its an easy way to get around talking about real issues like jobs or the economy to drag up 2 year old news stories that no one on earth gives a #### about.
Perhaps you should ask Perry why he's bringing it back up? The talking heads last night were suggesting that it's a ploy by Perry to drum up/energize support from the ~ 25% of the Republican base who still believe Obama isn't a citizen.
He didn't bring it up. Here is a link to the original interview that may help you: Link to Parade Magazine inteview.HTH
This:
But you’ve seen his.

I don’t know. Have I?

You don’t believe what’s been released?

I don’t know. I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night.
is bringing it back up.
Ohhhhhhh okay. Got it.

Your new schtick is actually changing the definitions of words. By "bringing it up" you mean the interviewer actually doesn't bring it up by asking the question about Obama's birth certificate without anyone else mentioning it, but since Perry takes the time to answer and didn't have an answer that you agreed with or liked Perry is actually bringing it up.

This makes more sense and is great schtick on your part - if we are wrong on something lets just change the definition of a word that has been around for hundreds of years.

 
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I'm not sure why this is news or why timschochet bumped this thread with his usual non-thought provoking copy and paste style.

Perry basically said, I don't know but it's a non-issue. How is that news?

As usual, its an easy way to get around talking about real issues like jobs or the economy to drag up 2 year old news stories that no one on earth gives a #### about.
Perhaps you should ask Perry why he's bringing it back up? The talking heads last night were suggesting that it's a ploy by Perry to drum up/energize support from the ~ 25% of the Republican base who still believe Obama isn't a citizen.
He didn't bring it up. Here is a link to the original interview that may help you: Link to Parade Magazine inteview.HTH
This:
But you’ve seen his.

I don’t know. Have I?

You don’t believe what’s been released?

I don’t know. I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night.
is bringing it back up.
Ohhhhhhh okay. Got it.

Your new schtick is actually changing the definitions of words. By "bringing it up" you mean the interviewer actually doesn't bring it up by asking the question about Obama's birth certificate without anyone else mentioning it, but since Perry takes the time to answer and didn't have an answer that you agreed with or liked Perry is actually bringing it up.

This makes more sense and is great schtick on your part - if we are wrong on something lets just change the definition of a word that has been around for hundreds of years.
As opposed to your shtick where you pretend a lifetime politician isn't smart enough to know that answering the question in that manner will reignite an issue that plays directly to his base?Stay naive hoe T.

 
I'm not sure why this is news or why timschochet bumped this thread with his usual non-thought provoking copy and paste style.

Perry basically said, I don't know but it's a non-issue. How is that news?

As usual, its an easy way to get around talking about real issues like jobs or the economy to drag up 2 year old news stories that no one on earth gives a #### about.
Perhaps you should ask Perry why he's bringing it back up? The talking heads last night were suggesting that it's a ploy by Perry to drum up/energize support from the ~ 25% of the Republican base who still believe Obama isn't a citizen.
He didn't bring it up. Here is a link to the original interview that may help you: Link to Parade Magazine inteview.HTH
This:
But you’ve seen his.

I don’t know. Have I?

You don’t believe what’s been released?

I don’t know. I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night.
is bringing it back up.
Ohhhhhhh okay. Got it.

Your new schtick is actually changing the definitions of words. By "bringing it up" you mean the interviewer actually doesn't bring it up by asking the question about Obama's birth certificate without anyone else mentioning it, but since Perry takes the time to answer and didn't have an answer that you agreed with or liked Perry is actually bringing it up.

This makes more sense and is great schtick on your part - if we are wrong on something lets just change the definition of a word that has been around for hundreds of years.
As opposed to your shtick where you pretend a lifetime politician isn't smart enough to know that answering the question in that manner will reignite an issue that plays directly to his base?Stay naive hoe T.
I'll agree with you on the bolded if you can agree that he didn't bring it up unless you use your crazy version of the definition of bringing something up.

 
As opposed to your shtick where you pretend a lifetime politician isn't smart enough to know that answering the question in that manner will reignite an issue that plays directly to his base?
You could cut and paste this into a Jim11 or jon_mx post and nobody would blink.
 
I'm not sure why this is news or why timschochet bumped this thread with his usual non-thought provoking copy and paste style.

Perry basically said, I don't know but it's a non-issue. How is that news?

As usual, its an easy way to get around talking about real issues like jobs or the economy to drag up 2 year old news stories that no one on earth gives a #### about.
Perhaps you should ask Perry why he's bringing it back up? The talking heads last night were suggesting that it's a ploy by Perry to drum up/energize support from the ~ 25% of the Republican base who still believe Obama isn't a citizen.
He didn't bring it up. Here is a link to the original interview that may help you: Link to Parade Magazine inteview.HTH
This:
But you’ve seen his.

I don’t know. Have I?

You don’t believe what’s been released?

I don’t know. I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night.
is bringing it back up.
Ohhhhhhh okay. Got it.

Your new schtick is actually changing the definitions of words. By "bringing it up" you mean the interviewer actually doesn't bring it up by asking the question about Obama's birth certificate without anyone else mentioning it, but since Perry takes the time to answer and didn't have an answer that you agreed with or liked Perry is actually bringing it up.

This makes more sense and is great schtick on your part - if we are wrong on something lets just change the definition of a word that has been around for hundreds of years.
to be fairnone of us were there, so none of us KNOW who brought it up

 
Better than what? I rarely assume anything. I assume you are male and work in D.C and I would point to your years of posts here as evidence, but I don't know for sure. I don't have to personally verify someone's birth to assume it's accurate, but I'm certainly not going to use the media hype machine as evidence. Once an issue becomes politicized like this it's more akin to a political pissing match than a news story. I've haven't seen any evidence, but to be fair, I haven't looked very hard either.
I'm gonna assume this is shtick because I like you too much to think otherwise. Unless maybe you were stuck in a remote canyon 127 Hours-style or something when this happened? I'll assume it's one of the two.

However, I'm pretty sure Perry was not stuck in a canyon or otherwise indisposed at that time, which means his comments are also either shtick or the statements of a moron or lunatic. No matter which, it's not very presidential. Although, sadly, those characteristics do seem to be increasingly frequent in the GOP presidential field, so I guess he kind of fits in there.
Ah, but you don't know, do you? ;)
 
So far we have compared knowledge of Obama's birth certificate to the following:Abraham Lincoln walking on the moonFrench people speaking FrenchBush blowing up the World Trade CenterReagan having a dungeon of sex slavesYep, those are all the same thing. End of story. Please lock the thread up now, this mystery has been solved. :thumbup:
Are you saying the sex dungeon was lincoln's?I asked perry, he said he did not know.
I'm betting it was Clinton's, but I don't know.
 
Not to get off topic here. I haven't read any of this thread nor do I intend to, but a quick question. I really haven't kept up with all this this but I'm curious about the fact that some say his SS# is from CT while he is from HI. Has this been debunked? If not how is that explaiined? This may have already been answered but like I said, I'm not going back throgh 75 pages to find out. I'm just don't care that much.
At the time (mid-70s), SSNs were applied for at about the age a person started working, not at birth. SSN applications were processed by local offices based on the zip code that the envelope came from, not the residency of the person applying. So if a person from Kansas mailed in the application from California, he'd get a "California" SSN, not a KS one.

So Obama's application must have been sent in an envelope with a CT return address, when he was about 16 years old. At the time, his father was living in CT.

There is some documentation that Obama worked at a Baskin-Robins in Hawaii a few years before that, and should have applied for an SSN then, but since he was 13 at the time, he was most likely paid "under the table" since he was not old enough to legally be employed an undocumented foreign national.
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One thing I never understood: why was our Indo-Kenyan President hammered for being an anti-colonialist? Gingrich harped on it for like six months. Arent Americans all anti-colonialist? Does Gingrich prefer a Muslim President aligned with the British colonizers?

 
One thing I never understood: why was our Indo-Kenyan President hammered for being an anti-colonialist? Gingrich harped on it for like six months. Arent Americans all anti-colonialist? Does Gingrich prefer a Muslim President aligned with the British colonizers?
Imperialism worked out OK for the US Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Hong Cong. We need more anglophile imperialism to spread democracy to Africa, Asia and the Middle East, me thinks.
 
Obama should be blocked from Alabama ballot, Jefferson County lawsuit contends

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- President Obama has a forged birth certificate and is ineligible to be on the Alabama Democratic Primary ballot because he is not a citizen, a Birmingham man has said in a lawsuit filed in Jefferson County Circuit Court.

The suit asks Circuit Judge Helen Shores Lee to hold an evidentiary hearing and issue an injunction against Mark Kennedy, the Alabama Democratic Party chairman, from putting Obama on the March 13 party primary ballot.

"Barack Hussein Obama, II, is not a natural-born citizen and is not qualified to be on the ballot as a presidential candidate," Albert E Hendershot Jr., who filed the suit on his own behalf, said in an accompanying affidavit. "In 2008, when Mr. Obama ran for the U.S. Presidency, he was never vetted and he never provided documentary evidence of his natural-born status."

Although Obama's 1961 birth in Hawaii is a settled fact with most voters, some people remain unconvinced.

Hendershot's suit claims he has "staggering" evidence that Obama is using a fraudulently obtained social security number issued in Connecticut. His also claims the Obama birth certificate from Hawaii is a forgery and says he has other evidence of misrepresentation, fraud and identity theft.

Hendershot has requested oral arguments. Lee has not set any hearings in the case.
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One thing I never understood: why was our Indo-Kenyan President hammered for being an anti-colonialist? Gingrich harped on it for like six months. Arent Americans all anti-colonialist? Does Gingrich prefer a Muslim President aligned with the British colonizers?
Imperialism worked out OK for the US Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Hong Cong. We need more anglophile imperialism to spread democracy to Africa, Asia and the Middle East, me thinks.
Is this serious or a joke? Think they tried that colonization thing in Afirca and the Middle East and it worked it out fantastic.
 
I thought she had already been discredited and was not allowed to file any more suits
I think she faced more fines if she filed frivelous lawsuits on behalf of soldiers that believe Obama is not CinC. (could be wrong)This time she filed on behalf of a voter in Georgia.

 
What do you think of this tape? It appears that Obama is clearly showing he was born in Kenya on multiple occasions. Is this tape fraudulent, or is the truth suppressed?

 
I was hoping for something substantive. In truth I really don't care if Obama is a citizen. But it appears that Obama isn't denying the fact that he was born in Kenya, which is interesting. If the tape is fraudulent, cut and pasted to misrepresent the truth.... That is interesting. My take is we are a government of laws. We should either enforce the law or change it, but don't ignore the law.

 
I think the point was made the obama snippets cuts and pastes. Which is a good point. I don't think all of them can be waved away so easily. Maybe maybe not.
 
The second one with Michelle is interesting. There are other clips as well that raises questions.BTW I think the tape is out there. I am not saying this is true, and again I don't care. It really isn't that important. I was just asking the question how you ferret out what is real and not real.

 
I know, man! Michelle straight admitted Kenya is Obama's homeland - what else could that mean? Now chant after me, "If she says it in a speech, we must impeach!"
 

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