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The Dark Knight Rises Villains Announced (1 Viewer)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
While I think it's a very good movie, it's not the all time great one it's made out to be. So, I guess I agree with you there too.
Saw it in the theater and watched it again a little bit last night now that it's on HBO's rotation. Hasn't aged well on a 2nd viewing for me. The movie stands out because of a lot of its action set pieces but the impact of those fade after you've seen them a few times. To me, they took the things I thought detracted from TDK (length, cramming in too much story and trying to do too much, plot that doesn't make a lot of sense) and amped that up with some cool explosions/stunts.
As a longtime Batman fan, the idea of Bruce Wayne disappearing into the shadows (both for the 8 years before and then at the end of the film) to live out his life in quiet anonymity is pretty much counter to everything Batman stands for IMO. As someone else posted much earlier, "the world is too small for a man like Bruce Wayne to just disappear."
Begins is still by far my favorite, a perfect origin story with a great look and feel to it. TDk was a very good film elevated to great by Ledger. Hated that they felt they had to try and end the story neatly in a compact trilogy. There's a lot of fertile ground that could have been put up on the screen in a serious way with a solid line of films. These movies made so much money that hopefully they will try to explore the Batman universe again before I'm an old fogey.
As a longtime Batman fan, the idea of Bruce Wayne disappearing into the shadows (both for the 8 years before and then at the end of the film) to live out his life in quiet anonymity is pretty much counter to everything Batman stands for IMO. As someone else posted much earlier, "the world is too small for a man like Bruce Wayne to just disappear."
Begins is still by far my favorite, a perfect origin story with a great look and feel to it. TDk was a very good film elevated to great by Ledger. Hated that they felt they had to try and end the story neatly in a compact trilogy. There's a lot of fertile ground that could have been put up on the screen in a serious way with a solid line of films. These movies made so much money that hopefully they will try to explore the Batman universe again before I'm an old fogey.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Batman Begins is still my favorite of the three. Dark Knight Rises is a distant third IMO.
Abraham
Footballguy
This. I watched DKR on the HBO free preview this weekend and it was time well spent, but it's not nearly as good as the other two. I actually thing BBegins is the best of the three by a wide margin.
LAUNCH
Footballguy
They are talking 2016/17 with the success of Superman, so they can do a Justice League movie.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Yep. Weak ending but the rest of it was good and the whole thing is elevated by Ledger's joker so much that it's still my favorite of the three.
Bane was a cool villain for TDKR as well, but the rest of the movie was just so meh that it still doesn't even get near the other two. Way too much crammed in there, and way too much movie time passes across short spurts in real life time.
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Chaka
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I was disappointed with DKR when I saw it in theaters, but I watched it again a month or so ago and it grew on me. It never felt long to me, but the storyline, acting, and dialogue just arent as strong, and acting wise Tom Hardy's talent is somewhat minimized with the whole mask deal. Still my least favorite of a very good trilogy, but I still enjoyed it.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
THe thing I like about Nolan's movies is that even the ones that don't hold up on first viewing, the first time through is good, though it's really only the Batman movies that peter out for me. DKR was by far the weakest but still enjoyable if you can just turn off the brain a bit. Bale's growling makes it tough but with Hathaway and the Frenchie in there, plus an enjoyable villain and Caine with Nolan's and Pfister's film know-how, it's not really a waste of time. Just probably the least of all Nolan's films. Not sure about Insomnia, I need to watch that again now being more familiar with his work.
Also, Nolan insists on shooting on not only film, but as much as possible in Los Angeles, which is becoming rare. Not only his films, but also Pfister's turn at directing which is about to start filming. Sadly, that means he won't be shooting Nolan's Interstellar but if these guys are going to shoot here, then I'll give them my business (and hopefully get on one of the two in the fall).
Riversco
Footballguy
Meh. Ras' plan to use blue flower power to frighten the entire city into tearing itself apart was actually pretty stupid when you think about it. The Dark Knight holds up better. The Joker didn't even have a plan to criticize.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Pretty much every plan in every superhero/comic movie is really stupid if you think about it.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Watched the first hour or so. She is pretty hot but not hot enough to make it a good movie.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
Insein
Footballguy
I don't think people were praising this as Oscar worthy. It was a good movie. Had a lot of rushed plot lines that could have been fleshed out better over multiple movies but they had to squeeze it all into this one for contractual reasons. So it isn't great. It's better than a lot of stuff out there. It's hard to live up to BB and DK. Happens to all 3rd installments. Same as Star Wars and Empire. Same as Godfather 1 and 2. You knew 3 had a lot to live up to and probably wouldn't reach the same height.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Vince Vaughn would have made a great Bane. He is a solid half a foot taller than Christian Bale, maybe seventy-five pounds heavier, and is simply fleshier than Bale--which would fit in with the physicality of the character.
Vaughn also has the same sense of wry/sarcastic humor as the character. It seems a perfect fit.
Vaughn also has the same sense of wry/sarcastic humor as the character. It seems a perfect fit.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
this is where I stand as well. too much two face forced into dark knight and it tailed off at the end. thought rises was toeing the line of being bad. just felt overstuffed.
bshell27
Footballguy
One line bothers me from the DKR- As Batman is getting the better of Bane in the rematch he is growling "Where is the detonator, you would never give it to an ordinary citizen"
That was a pretty cheesy line and one of the only moments in the series where I didn't see the character, I saw Bale yelling his lines. Horrible scene IMO.
That was a pretty cheesy line and one of the only moments in the series where I didn't see the character, I saw Bale yelling his lines. Horrible scene IMO.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Agree with those who didn't think it was good. Felt rushed, felt forced, and as a guy that likes dark movies, thought it was too dark at times (to the point of being both unrealistic and depressing).
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
The best character in this series by far was Michael Caine's Alfred
The_Burning_Bush
Footballguy
Watched it again last night; I think it's a good movie, but a not-so-great Batman movie.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
They're all 10 times better than Man of Steel
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
Excellent casting decision. He was justScottNorwood said:
in every scene he was in.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
He was great in the first two, brutal in the third.Excellent casting decision. He was justScottNorwood said:
Chaka
Footballguy
That seems like a silly statement. He was exactly the same in all three, his comments about watching a child he raised die were perhaps the most authentic moments in all three films.He was great in the first two, brutal in the third.Excellent casting decision. He was justScottNorwood said:
He's still great on So You Think You Can Dance.That seems like a silly statement. He was exactly the same in all three, his comments about watching a child he raised die were perhaps the most authentic moments in all three films.He was great in the first two, brutal in the third.Excellent casting decision. He was justScottNorwood said:
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Better than man of steel.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
He turned into a sniveling, whiny, baby in the third movie. I found his performance very distracting, after he had such a strong character in the first two movies.That seems like a silly statement. He was exactly the same in all three, his comments about watching a child he raised die were perhaps the most authentic moments in all three films.He was great in the first two, brutal in the third.Excellent casting decision. He was justScottNorwood said:
To be fair, it was more the lines he was given, not Caine's acting per se.
Chaka
Footballguy
Again, how is being truly horrified at seeing the child you raised die, and praying to God for a better outcome equivalent to being a "sniveling, whiny, baby"? I agree the lines weren't the best but the sentiment was possibly the most sincere and heartfelt of the entire series (and I give credit to Caine for making them so).He turned into a sniveling, whiny, baby in the third movie. I found his performance very distracting, after he had such a strong character in the first two movies.That seems like a silly statement. He was exactly the same in all three, his comments about watching a child he raised die were perhaps the most authentic moments in all three films.He was great in the first two, brutal in the third.Excellent casting decision. He was justScottNorwood said:
To be fair, it was more the lines he was given, not Caine's acting per se.
Hang 10
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
OK, I've tried to complete this movie 3 TIMES. I've gotten as far as just after the football game. I just can't do it. This thing is terrible.
The Gator
Footballguy
Caught it on HBOLT and it was amazingly better when you don't have to listen to Bale strain his voice to play Batman.
