The (Disg-)race for Number One (1 Viewer)

[PatsWillWin]

Any chance Cleveland looks to go QB?

 

[aposulli]

NE looks poised to move up if they wanted to, with 2 picks between 15 and 30.Would they do that, and for whom?

They wouldn't but it would be incredible to see them do so for Calvin

 

[PatsWillWin]

NE looks poised to move up if they wanted to, with 2 picks between 15 and 30.Would they do that, and for whom?

They wouldn't but it would be incredible to see them do so for Calvin

[T.J. Houshmazilla Guy] Championship! [/T.J. Houshmazilla Guy]

 

[sinatravolta]

As a Redskins fan, it's going to be interesting Saturday night. I'd love for the Redskins to knock the Giants out of the playoffs, but on the other hand - winning would hurt our draft slot a bit probably. And god knows - we probably only have a few picks in the draft with all our trading away of future draft picks - so that first one better be a good one!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Any chance Cleveland looks to go QB?

Slim to none with Slim just leaving town if you're talking 1st round. But if Troy Smith were there at their 2nd, it would be tough, if just from a PR standpoint alone, to pass on him.

 

[walkwithme]

Any chance Cleveland looks to go QB?

Even though I am not impressed with Frye I see no way Cleveland grabs a QB. That would mean that they gave up on Frye which they haven't yet and they still have Anderson. They need help at OL DL and CB I believe. Pretty much they are bad in all areas on defense and the offense doesn't help them out with the inability to run the ball. Maybe they go OL with the top choice they need a day 1 starter.

 

[Spartans Rule]

Guys, it is just such a Lions Chargers move to take Brady Quinn Eli Manning. I feel bad for the guy already.

Just sayin.

If Matt Millen is running the team, no way they get a Eli-Rivers type deal for BQ.

Why not? Millen pulled a major coup when he traded down from 6 to 7 with the Browns, nabbed Roy Williams, and picked up a second round pick which enabled them to move back up in to the first for Kevin Jones.It's not like EVERYTHING Millen does is stupid. His biggest mistakes have come in free agency, overspending on mediocre players.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Why not? Millen pulled a major coup when he traded down from 6 to 7 with the Browns, nabbed Roy Williams, and picked up a second round pick which enabled them to move back up in to the first for Kevin Jones.It's not like EVERYTHING Millen does is stupid. His biggest mistakes have come in free agency, overspending on mediocre players.

Anyone that's played Madden Franchise mode for more than two seasons could have pulled that one off.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Why not? Millen pulled a major coup when he traded down from 6 to 7 with the Browns, nabbed Roy Williams, and picked up a second round pick which enabled them to move back up in to the first for Kevin Jones.It's not like EVERYTHING Millen does is stupid. His biggest mistakes have come in free agency, overspending on mediocre players.

Anyone that's played Madden Franchise mode for more than two seasons could have pulled that one off.

I wonder if Millen tried this trade in Madden first, saw the green bar (probably only one) and then offered it up.

 

[Buckna]

1 Detroit 2-13 plays Dallas = Loss

2 Oakland 2-13 .546 plays the Jets = Loss

3 Cleveland 4-11 .533 plays Houston = ?

4 Tampa Bay 4-11 .542 plays Seattle = Loss

5 Arizona 5-10 .492 plays San Diego = Loss?

6 Houston 5-10 .513 plays Cleveland = ?

7 (1)Washington 5-10 513 plays the Giants = ?

8 Minnesota 6-9 .475 plays St. Louis = ?

9 San Francisco 6-9 .496 plays Denver = Loss

10 Miami 6-9 .538 plays Indy = Loss?

Houston vs. Cleveland seems like the only game that would really move things around. If Houston wins and the other teams past them lose, Houston could fall down to the #9 spot. If Cleveland wins, they would move to around the 5th-6th spot.

Oakland and Detroit are both locked in to the top spots, so it will depend on final SOS. Last I heard, there was only a 4 game difference between the win/loss records of their opponents so anything could happen.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The Lions are on a level of craptitude that no other franchise could hope to attain.

 

[mightymorse]

Oakland and Detroit are both locked in to the top spots, so it will depend on final SOS. Last I heard, there was only a 4 game difference between the win/loss records of their opponents so anything could happen.

This 4-game SOS difference between Oak/Det will likely get bigger, not smaller this weekend. If the current favorites all win, that's 11 more wins for Raider opponents and only 5 for Lion opponents. So it would require a number of upsets to even maintain the 4-game diff, and a huge number of upsets for the SOS to be equalized.

 

[billymays]

Here's what I have right now, without any tiebreakingetroit 2-13Oakland 2-13Cleveland 4-11Tampa Bay 4-11Houston 5-10Arizona 5-10Washington 5-10San Francisco 6-9Minnesota 6-9Miami 6-9

imo those first six teams have the worst offensive lines in football...hmmm, makes you wonder why nobody talks about the importance of a good oline.

 

[kingmalaki]

2007 DRAFT 1st-ROUND

SELECTION ORDER

(Ed note: W-L %s based on all 16 opponents this season for each team)

December 26, 2006

# Team W-L Opponents' W-L %

1 Detroit 2-13 .529

2 Oakland 2-13 .546

3 Cleveland 4-11 .533

4 Tampa Bay 4-11 .542

5 Arizona 5-10 .492

6 Houston 5-10 .513

7 (1)Washington 5-10 513

8 Minnesota 6-9 .475

9 San Francisco 6-9 .496

10 Miami 6-9 .538

11 St. Louis 7-8 .458

12 Atlanta 7-8 .458

13 Carolina 7-8 .483

14 Green Bay 7-8 .500

15 Pittsburgh 7-8 .508

16 New York Giants 7-8 529

17 Buffalo 7-8 .571

18 New England (from Seattle) 8-7 .446

19 Kansas City 8-7 .496

20 Jacksonville 8-7 .525

21 Cincinnati 8-7 .533

22 Tennessee 8-7 .567

23 Dallas 9-6 .454

24 New York Jets 9-6 .475

25 Philadelphia 9-6 .479

26 (1)Denver 9-6 .521

27 New Orleans 10-5 .458

28 New England 11-4 .504

29 Indianapolis 11-4 .508

30 Baltimore 12-3 .471

31 Chicago 13-2 .417

32 San Diego 13-2 .458

The Texans really need to lose this Sunday. If they lose then they should be a lock to draft Peterson, as the Lions, Raiders, Bucs, Cardinals and possibly Redskins/Broncos all have solid RB's. If they lose and get lucky they could even wind up with the #3 pick and a "stud" O-Lineman. Win and they could fall all the way to #9.Come on Carr....I know you have one more crappy performance in you!!!!

 

[kingmalaki]

Any chance Cleveland looks to go QB?

Slim to none with Slim just leaving town if you're talking 1st round. But if Troy Smith were there at their 2nd, it would be tough, if just from a PR standpoint alone, to pass on him.

Very true, so says this Houstonian.

 

[pacman_fl]

imo those first six teams have the worst offensive lines in football...hmmm, makes you wonder why nobody talks about the importance of a good oline. :X

We could have a long separate post on this topic. O-line appears to be a big weakness in the NFL as a whole.

 

[Tornacl]

Guys, it is just such a Lions Chargers move to take Brady Quinn Eli Manning. I feel bad for the guy already.

Just sayin.

As a Lions fan, I can say that Detroit is the purgatory for QB careers. I don't think there has been any team that has drafted as many QBs as the Lions since 1980, and certainly no team's gotten so little out of their drafted QBs.Since 1980, the Lions have drafted 10 QBs (Orlovsky, Harrington, McMahon, Batch, Ware, Peete, Long, Witkowski, Machurek and Hipple), and I think that Hipple has the most victories as a Lion of all of them. (I'm not sure where to find career victory stats for QBs.) Of those QBs, there was one Heisman trophy winner, and I believe three Heisman finalists (Harrington, Peete, and Long).

I could understand if a QB refused to sign with the Lions.

But as I write this reply, I am starting to realize the same could probably be said for nearly every position, that the Lions have done a poor job drafting. RB and LB have probably been their most successful draft positions (Billy Sims, Barry Sanders, Kevin Jones) and (Chris Spielman, Claiborne, Ernie Simms).

 

[Buckna]

An update from another site I frequent:

It all comes down to this… The 2006 NFL regular schedule wraps up later today and by the end of the day most teams will know where they will be selecting in the opening round of this year’s draft. That certainly goes for Detroit and Oakland which still have to decide which of the two will have the #1 pick at this year’s draft. Both play on the road at 1 PM ET later today with Detroit at Dallas and Oakland playing in New York against the Jets. If they both lose – or both win – Detroit will almost assuredly end up with this year’s top pick. The Lions combined opponents have won 4 fewer games than those of the Raiders this year, a gap that is almost impossible to make up in one week given that the teams have several common opponents. Making it even more likely that the Lions pick ahead of the Raiders if the two end up with the same record is the fact that most of the Lions opponents are underdogs this weekend while the majority of those of the Raiders are generally favored. However, it works out this weekend, both Detroit and Oakland are assured one of the top two picks this coming April as each team has won but twice this fall while everyone else has won at least four games. Meanwhile, there is still plenty of sorting out to do later today in the remainder of the top 10. In fact, today’s ‘big’ game, at least from a draft prespective, is in Houston where the Texans, who would pick in the 6-7 slot were the draft held today hosts Cleveland which would pick third. And the Browns will be in tough given that they will have to go with 3rd stringer Ken Dorsey at QB because of injuries to Charlie Frye and Derek Anderson. Elsewhere, Tampa Bay, which is sitting on the 4th pick hosts Seattle while Arizona, which would pick 5th is at AFC leading San Diego. We’ll have the full, updated first round selection order after tonight’s season finale in Chicago where the Bears hosts Green Bay in what may, or may not, be Packers’ QB Brett Favre’s final game.

 

[jevy]

After the early games

W L Opp W Team

2 14 138 Oakland

3 13 131 Detroit

4 12 134 Cleveland

4 12 135 Tampa Bay

5 10 124 Arizona

5 11 128 Washington

6 10 122 Minnesota

6 9 125 San Francisco

6 10 126 Houston

6 9 137 Miami

7 8 115 Atlanta

7 8 126 Green Bay

7 8 143 Buffalo

8 8 115 St. Louis

8 8 119 Carolina

8 8 124 Pittsburgh

8 8 133 Cincinnati

8 8 133 Jacksonville

8 8 141 Tennessee

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Hey Vikings fans! Your squad is picking BEFORE the Houston Texans! :(



Hey Childress, have a nice offseason guy.

 

[aardball44]

Hey Vikings fans! Your squad is picking BEFORE the Houston Texans! Hey Childress, have a nice offseason guy. :IBTL:

Are you updating your mock draft tonight, Andy?

 

[jevy]

With 1 game left

2 14 142 Oakland

3 13 132 Detroit

4 12 137 Cleveland

4 12 137 Tampa Bay

5 11 127 Arizona

5 11 131 Washington

6 10 123 Minnesota

6 10 129 Houston

6 10 138 Miami

7 9 117 Atlanta

7 9 127 San Francisco

7 8 128 Green Bay

7 9 146 Buffalo

8 8 118 St. Louis

8 8 121 Carolina

8 8 127 Pittsburgh

8 8 136 Jacksonville

8 8 137 Cincinnati

8 8 146 Tennessee

9 7 136 Denver

 

[kingmalaki]

Wow, San Francisco won. Looks like the top 9 are set:

2 14 138 Oakland

3 13 131 Detroit

4 12 134 Cleveland/Tampa Bay

4 12 135 Tampa Bay/Cleveland

5 11 124 Arizona

5 11 128 Washington

6 10 122 Minnesota

6 10 126 Houston

6 10 137 Miami

If Cleveland passes on a RB with their pick (they need O-Line help too) then it's possible that A.Peterson could drop to the Texans at #8. I really don't see any other team in the top 7 taking a RB, unless someone trades up.

 

[jevy]

# W L Opp W Team

1 2 14 142 Oakland

2 3 13 134 Detroit

3 4 12 137 Cleveland (TB beat Clev in Week 16, if that matters)

4 4 12 137 Tampa Bay

5 5 11 128 Arizona

6 5 11 131 Washington

7 6 10 125 Minnesota

8 6 10 129 Houston

9 6 10 139 Miami

10 7 9 117 Atlanta

11 7 9 128 San Francisco

12 7 9 147 Buffalo

13 8 8 119 St. Louis

14 8 8 121 Carolina

15 8 8 127 Pittsburgh

16 8 8 128 Green Bay

17 8 8 136 Jacksonville

18 8 8 137 Cincinnati

19 8 8 146 Tennessee

20 8 8 133 x-N.Y. Giants

21 9 7 136 Denver

22 9 7 116 y-Seattle

23 9 7 117 x-Dallas

24 9 7 126 x-Kansas City

25 10 6 118 yz-New Orleans

26 10 6 120 x-N.Y. Jets

27 10 6 122 y-Philadelphia

28 12 4 127 y-New England

29 12 4 128 y-Indianapolis

30 13 3 110 *yz-Chicago

31 13 3 118 yz-Baltimore

32 14 2 117 *yz-San Diego

 

[Foosball God]

Leave it to the Lions to even #### up losing.

 

[walkwithme]

Oakland Raiders are on the clock. I would be surprised if Adrian Peterson is not their top choice.