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One of the reasons, the Jags are playing well is the play of Fred Taylor and Byron Lefwich. Neither one of these guys can seem to stay healthy. Whenever an injury happens (and you know it will...) I see the Jags struggling..
Garrard is a great backup. One that most teams would kill for. Last year in the games he played while Leftwich was out, he went 5 - 1 with a 83.9 QB rating. Threw for 4 TDs, picked once and added 3 more TDs on the ground.I'd be worried about Fred going down a lot more than Leftwich
on all counts. That defense is absolutely nasty. Another comparison that might be valid would be the 2002 Bucs.
Hmm.. Garrard 5-1 as a starter last year? Gee.. Who did he play against to earn that 5-1 record? Tenn 2xSFAZHoustonClevelandWOW!!I'm not saying he sucks, he's just unproven.
He's good, but great might be too generous. He did not garner much interest the other year as a UFA or RFA (or whatever he was) and played well last year but all but 1 of those games were cupcakes. I think Lefty is the key to the team. They have a better record of showing they can make due without Freddy, though this year would make it even more difficult with Jones out (leaving the likes of Maurice and Alvin).
I would like to see Lefty get his first full 16 game season under his belt.
They haven't played any yet.
are you saying the Jags are undefeated in playoff games?
Wow surprised to see how many people vote YES.You didn't mention last years playoff game that they lost 28-3They were 12-4 last year; pretty impressive2004 9-72003 5-112002 6-102001 6-10Denver was 13-3 last year and the only team able to beat Tom Brady in the playoffs.Had they started 2-0 Im not sure we would consider them elite.Maybe I have a different view of elite.If the Detroit Tigers get swept in the 1st RD of the playoffs this year, and start off next year with a 25-10 record, I am not sure anyone would consider them elite.If that were to happen, I feel that is somewhat what Jax would have accomplished so far.
They were a 12-4 playoff team last year they made a very solid Dallas team look silly in week one and shut the defending SB champs out. I just don't understand how anyone could call anything they've done a fluke?
It's a shame the NFL schedule is so heavily in favor of the Colts for this game. Indy comes off a patty cake game on Sunday. Jack off the most physical game of the year on a short week and then to travel to Indy. If they win this, needless to say. I think they are the best team in the NFL right now.
Accepted.
NOTE: I did not say they were elite, I was only asking what people's perceptions of them are.The only teams with more regular season wins than JAX between 2005 and 2006 are the Colts and Seahawks. I am a firm believer that gaudy regular season records does not mean a whole heck of a lot if you go nowhere in the postseason, so I can see both sides of this argument.
2002 - Kordell Stewart was filling in for Maddox2004 - I'll give you that one
I know you didn't say they were elite...Just thought that this was the way the thread will end up
And the Jags have beaten both those teams in that time period. The Jags have also won 10 of their last 11 regular season games. But I agree that the postseason is where the elites are made. The colts have proven that repeatedly. Until the Jags win some in the tourney it's all just college/BCS style posturing. Talk and public opinion that means little in the end.
The Jags have been playing the same defensive system with close to the same personel for years. Why would teams need more film? This is not a team that was 5-11 the last few years that started 2-0, the Jags were 12-4 in 2005 and 9-7 in 2004(missed the playoffs in week 17).
Really? I though it would be -4. That does deserve aIt looks like Vegas doesn't think they are "elite". The line opened at Indy -9.5
Edit: It is -7 at Pinnacle.
I bet the gap will close the closer we get to Sunday.Really? I though it would be -4. That does deserve aIt looks like Vegas doesn't think they are "elite". The line opened at Indy -9.5
The question isn't if they are *good*. The question is if they are *elite*. Last year's 12-4 was a result of a soft schedule. The Pats tanked their season finale in order to draw the Jags. The 28pts the Pats put up in the playoffs is slightly deceiving (Watson's long TD and the INT-TD were game-breaking plays that likely would not be repeated in a rematch), but the 3 the Jags put up was the truth. The Jags were in trouble in the postseason if they had to count on a 9-0 type win like they had last night. The playoff teams were too good to bet on that kind of outcome.As for the same defensive system, you can't tell me the Jags haven't tweaked their tendencies on various situations over the years. The Pats have been in a 3-4 since 2003, but have varied their situational calls over the years. That's what the game film is for.
Of course they'll tweak changes. But it's 3+ years of the same head coach, same DC, same basic scheme, and mostly the same players. It not like the Jags ran a new look at Pitt last night. Pitt knew what to expect and had plenty of game film to study.
Jags host the Pats on Christmas Eve. Can't wait.- Pats fan stuck in Duval.
That tool is making Theisman look like an absolute genius. My god, he knows next to nothing about the game of football, except that in some countries it's called soccer.
They may be elite this year, but hardly for about a year. They had very few quality wins last season. They beat the Seahawks and Bengals early last year at home, and a Maddox-QB Steelers squad in OT on the road. To their credit, the Jaguars beat who they played, but they lacked signature wins.These first two games of 2006 have been very impressive, yet I can see some basis for arguing that good teams are supposed to win their home games. Elite teams win on the road and in the playoffs. As a Steeler fan, I compliment them on a great performance yesterday. At least for one night, they were much closer to elite than Pittsburgh, yet as dominant as they were statistically, and as feeble as the Steelers offense looked for 55 minutes, they were one drive away from a victory. Take that for what it's worth.Bottom line: If Jax beats Indy Sunday, they'll be the most impressive team so far this year, beating Dallas, Pittsburgh and Indy in succession. Elite status as far as I'm concerned for 2006. But again, playoffs are a different story. Few considered the Patriots elite in 2001 or the Bucs in 2002 or the Steelers in 2005, but come playoff team, they played their best football. Who cares what people think? Win the Lombardi Trophy and let everyone else debate how great you are.
