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The lack of RBs (1 Viewer)

shadyridr

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Fantasy football should start adopting to the style of play in the NFL. For one, players are bigger and faster than ever before leading to more injuries. Also, with Thu games and concussion protocols, injured players are now resting even due to minor injuries. The league has also become RBBC happy and a passing league. This means there are barely any RBs to go around. Why dont more leagus go to some kind of 1RB, 2WR, 2FLEX format or something similar? This is getting ridiculous and taking a lot of fun out of playing the game to the point of it now just becoming a completely random crapshoot where a winner is determined by who stays healthiest and whos WR blew up in any given week. Just look at this:

NE: Ridley- considered an RB1 but does anyone really trust him as anything more than an RB2?

NYJ: Greene- flex option

MIA: Bush/Thomas- flex options

BUF: Spiller/FJax- RB2s unless someone gets hurt

PIT: RBBC- flex options

BAL: Rice- RB1 but hes been disappointing

CLE: TRich- RB1

CIN: BJGE- RB2

HOU: Foster- RB1

TEN: CJ2K- same as Ridley, hes an RB1 but very untrustworthy

JAX: Parmalee- flex option

IND: Ballard- flex

KC: Charles- same as Ridley & CJ, untrustworthy RB1

OAK: Reece/DMC- RB2

SD: Mathews- RB2

DEN: Hillman- RB2 or flex (unsure)

PHI: McCoy- disappointing RB1

DAL: Jones- RB2

WAS: Morris- RB1 (I think the guy is a stud but his #s over the last 4 weeks are RB2 #s)

NYG: Bradshaw/Brown- RB2 unless Bradshaw gets hurt

GB: Starks- flex

DET: LeShoure- RB2

MIN: ADP- RB1

CHI: Forte- RB1

NO: lol

CAR: Stewart- flex

ATL: Turner- RB2

TB: Martin- RB1

SF: Gore- RB1 (I guess)

ARI: LSH- flex

STL: SJax- flex

SEA: Lynch- RB1

By my count, there are 8 RB1s and even half of those I wouldnt even call studs. Everybody else is starting RB2s and flexes and praying they get double digit points. This is fun?

 
In before someone tells you Ray Rice isnt a disappointment,

Basically, just go QB/WR/TE early then Take late value guys - Gore/Spiller/Turner/Ridley types. and hit the wire hard.

Im not ever burning early picks on RBs again

 
Fantasy football should start adopting to the style of play in the NFL. For one, players are bigger and faster than ever before leading to more injuries. Also, with Thu games and concussion protocols, injured players are now resting even due to minor injuries. The league has also become RBBC happy and a passing league. This means there are barely any RBs to go around. Why dont more leagus go to some kind of 1RB, 2WR, 2FLEX format or something similar? This is getting ridiculous and taking a lot of fun out of playing the game to the point of it now just becoming a completely random crapshoot where a winner is determined by who stays healthiest and whos WR blew up in any given week. Just look at this:NE: Ridley- considered an RB1 but does anyone really trust him as anything more than an RB2?NYJ: Greene- flex optionMIA: Bush/Thomas- flex optionsBUF: Spiller/FJax- RB2s unless someone gets hurtPIT: RBBC- flex optionsBAL: Rice- RB1 but hes been disappointingCLE: TRich- RB1CIN: BJGE- RB2HOU: Foster- RB1TEN: CJ2K- same as Ridley, hes an RB1 but very untrustworthyJAX: Parmalee- flex optionIND: Ballard- flexKC: Charles- same as Ridley & CJ, untrustworthy RB1OAK: Reece/DMC- RB2SD: Mathews- RB2DEN: Hillman- RB2 or flex (unsure)PHI: McCoy- disappointing RB1DAL: Jones- RB2WAS: Morris- RB1 (I think the guy is a stud but his #s over the last 4 weeks are RB2 #s)NYG: Bradshaw/Brown- RB2 unless Bradshaw gets hurtGB: Starks- flexDET: LeShoure- RB2MIN: ADP- RB1CHI: Forte- RB1NO: lolCAR: Stewart- flexATL: Turner- RB2TB: Martin- RB1SF: Gore- RB1 (I guess)ARI: LSH- flexSTL: SJax- flexSEA: Lynch- RB1By my count, there are 8 RB1s and even half of those I wouldnt even call studs. Everybody else is starting RB2s and flexes and praying they get double digit points. This is fun?
The good thing about Fantasy Football is you can make up any rules you want as long as your league adopts them. Maybe in your league RBs are too difficult to draft and predict and you should do away with them all together. You could add the predictable PUNTER in place of the RB. Sounds fun
 
In before someone tells you Ray Rice isnt a disappointment,Basically, just go QB/WR/TE early then Take late value guys - Gore/Spiller/Turner/Ridley types. and hit the wire hard.Im not ever burning early picks on RBs again
Actually my best team this year was drafted out of the 12th spot and used this strategy for the most part... PPR league with QB, 2 RB, 2 WRs, TE, Flex.Round 1/2 turn - Julio Jones / Jimmy Graham (co-owner was SOLD on Julio and didnt want to lose him)Round 3/4 turn - AJ Green / Victor Cruz (guy immediately in front of us took Doug Martin who was our main RB target)Round 5/6 turn - Ridley / Willis McGaheeTeam ended up loaded at WR and TE (also drafted Cobb late), rotate Roethlisberger and Luck at QB, and have Morris (drafted late), Ridley, McGahee, Leshoure to mix and match at RB every week. Use a WR in the flex.10-1 at this point.
 
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Fantasy football should start adopting to the style of play in the NFL. For one, players are bigger and faster than ever before leading to more injuries. Also, with Thu games and concussion protocols, injured players are now resting even due to minor injuries. The league has also become RBBC happy and a passing league. This means there are barely any RBs to go around. Why dont more leagus go to some kind of 1RB, 2WR, 2FLEX format or something similar? This is getting ridiculous and taking a lot of fun out of playing the game to the point of it now just becoming a completely random crapshoot where a winner is determined by who stays healthiest and whos WR blew up in any given week. Just look at this:NE: Ridley- considered an RB1 but does anyone really trust him as anything more than an RB2?NYJ: Greene- flex optionMIA: Bush/Thomas- flex optionsBUF: Spiller/FJax- RB2s unless someone gets hurtPIT: RBBC- flex optionsBAL: Rice- RB1 but hes been disappointingCLE: TRich- RB1CIN: BJGE- RB2HOU: Foster- RB1TEN: CJ2K- same as Ridley, hes an RB1 but very untrustworthyJAX: Parmalee- flex optionIND: Ballard- flexKC: Charles- same as Ridley & CJ, untrustworthy RB1OAK: Reece/DMC- RB2SD: Mathews- RB2DEN: Hillman- RB2 or flex (unsure)PHI: McCoy- disappointing RB1DAL: Jones- RB2WAS: Morris- RB1 (I think the guy is a stud but his #s over the last 4 weeks are RB2 #s)NYG: Bradshaw/Brown- RB2 unless Bradshaw gets hurtGB: Starks- flexDET: LeShoure- RB2MIN: ADP- RB1CHI: Forte- RB1NO: lolCAR: Stewart- flexATL: Turner- RB2TB: Martin- RB1SF: Gore- RB1 (I guess)ARI: LSH- flexSTL: SJax- flexSEA: Lynch- RB1By my count, there are 8 RB1s and even half of those I wouldnt even call studs. Everybody else is starting RB2s and flexes and praying they get double digit points. This is fun?
The good thing about Fantasy Football is you can make up any rules you want as long as your league adopts them. Maybe in your league RBs are too difficult to draft and predict and you should do away with them all together. You could add the predictable PUNTER in place of the RB. Sounds fun
Punter is a great position for fantasy. Lends itself to predicting how a game will go much better than players who get their points from touchdowns and such. I strongly recommend adding punters for a nice twist to FF. Been using them for 6 years now, can't believe more leagues haven't adopted them.
 
Fantasy football should start adopting to the style of play in the NFL. For one, players are bigger and faster than ever before leading to more injuries. Also, with Thu games and concussion protocols, injured players are now resting even due to minor injuries. The league has also become RBBC happy and a passing league. This means there are barely any RBs to go around. Why dont more leagus go to some kind of 1RB, 2WR, 2FLEX format or something similar? This is getting ridiculous and taking a lot of fun out of playing the game to the point of it now just becoming a completely random crapshoot where a winner is determined by who stays healthiest and whos WR blew up in any given week. Just look at this:NE: Ridley- considered an RB1 but does anyone really trust him as anything more than an RB2?NYJ: Greene- flex optionMIA: Bush/Thomas- flex optionsBUF: Spiller/FJax- RB2s unless someone gets hurtPIT: RBBC- flex optionsBAL: Rice- RB1 but hes been disappointingCLE: TRich- RB1CIN: BJGE- RB2HOU: Foster- RB1TEN: CJ2K- same as Ridley, hes an RB1 but very untrustworthyJAX: Parmalee- flex optionIND: Ballard- flexKC: Charles- same as Ridley & CJ, untrustworthy RB1OAK: Reece/DMC- RB2SD: Mathews- RB2DEN: Hillman- RB2 or flex (unsure)PHI: McCoy- disappointing RB1DAL: Jones- RB2WAS: Morris- RB1 (I think the guy is a stud but his #s over the last 4 weeks are RB2 #s)NYG: Bradshaw/Brown- RB2 unless Bradshaw gets hurtGB: Starks- flexDET: LeShoure- RB2MIN: ADP- RB1CHI: Forte- RB1NO: lolCAR: Stewart- flexATL: Turner- RB2TB: Martin- RB1SF: Gore- RB1 (I guess)ARI: LSH- flexSTL: SJax- flexSEA: Lynch- RB1By my count, there are 8 RB1s and even half of those I wouldnt even call studs. Everybody else is starting RB2s and flexes and praying they get double digit points. This is fun?
The good thing about Fantasy Football is you can make up any rules you want as long as your league adopts them. Maybe in your league RBs are too difficult to draft and predict and you should do away with them all together. You could add the predictable PUNTER in place of the RB. Sounds fun
Punter is a great position for fantasy. Lends itself to predicting how a game will go much better than players who get their points from touchdowns and such. I strongly recommend adding punters for a nice twist to FF. Been using them for 6 years now, can't believe more leagues haven't adopted them.
how is this scored? 1pt per ______ yards punting?
 
Fantasy football should start adopting to the style of play in the NFL. For one, players are bigger and faster than ever before leading to more injuries. Also, with Thu games and concussion protocols, injured players are now resting even due to minor injuries. The league has also become RBBC happy and a passing league. This means there are barely any RBs to go around. Why dont more leagus go to some kind of 1RB, 2WR, 2FLEX format or something similar? This is getting ridiculous and taking a lot of fun out of playing the game to the point of it now just becoming a completely random crapshoot where a winner is determined by who stays healthiest and whos WR blew up in any given week. Just look at this:NE: Ridley- considered an RB1 but does anyone really trust him as anything more than an RB2?NYJ: Greene- flex optionMIA: Bush/Thomas- flex optionsBUF: Spiller/FJax- RB2s unless someone gets hurtPIT: RBBC- flex optionsBAL: Rice- RB1 but hes been disappointingCLE: TRich- RB1CIN: BJGE- RB2HOU: Foster- RB1TEN: CJ2K- same as Ridley, hes an RB1 but very untrustworthyJAX: Parmalee- flex optionIND: Ballard- flexKC: Charles- same as Ridley & CJ, untrustworthy RB1OAK: Reece/DMC- RB2SD: Mathews- RB2DEN: Hillman- RB2 or flex (unsure)PHI: McCoy- disappointing RB1DAL: Jones- RB2WAS: Morris- RB1 (I think the guy is a stud but his #s over the last 4 weeks are RB2 #s)NYG: Bradshaw/Brown- RB2 unless Bradshaw gets hurtGB: Starks- flexDET: LeShoure- RB2MIN: ADP- RB1CHI: Forte- RB1NO: lolCAR: Stewart- flexATL: Turner- RB2TB: Martin- RB1SF: Gore- RB1 (I guess)ARI: LSH- flexSTL: SJax- flexSEA: Lynch- RB1By my count, there are 8 RB1s and even half of those I wouldnt even call studs. Everybody else is starting RB2s and flexes and praying they get double digit points. This is fun?
The good thing about Fantasy Football is you can make up any rules you want as long as your league adopts them. Maybe in your league RBs are too difficult to draft and predict and you should do away with them all together. You could add the predictable PUNTER in place of the RB. Sounds fun
Punter is a great position for fantasy. Lends itself to predicting how a game will go much better than players who get their points from touchdowns and such. I strongly recommend adding punters for a nice twist to FF. Been using them for 6 years now, can't believe more leagues haven't adopted them.
how is this scored? 1pt per ______ yards punting?
Of course adjust to make them have a value in line with whatever you feel appropriate... but we do 1 per 25 gross punting yards. We don't give points for inside the 20 because we felt it would make their scores more random. This way teams who punt a lot and who punt from bad field position gain the most points.With 1/25, the #1 punter is averaging 12.9 fantasy points a game, the 12th best is averaging 9. But you can often do better than just sticking with one punter... a lot of times I'll pick up a team playing a tough defense and use them that week then drop them. But if you can predict before the season who the bad offenses are, you'll probably do pretty well with punters. Oh, and we do not give place kicker points to punters, nor punting points to place kickers. Though both otherwise get all points for anything they do (tackles, TD passes, etc). Reason for this is Atlanta briefly had Koenen as both punter and place kicker for a bit, and we didn't want him to be the most valuable player in the whole fantasy league, so altered the scoring the next year. Luckily he lost the place kicking job in preseason so it wasn't a factor that year.
 
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The adage "you can never have enough RBs" is as true as it has ever been.

I hear what you are saying about RBs being tough to come by, but it seems the most successful FF owners are those that can stockpile RBs and maintain reasonable strength at other positions.

Easier said than done, but definitely makes it interesting in terms of pounding the waiver wire for RBs with potential.

 
In our league your team must run one of these formations:

Proset -- 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Run & Gun -- 1 QB, 1 RBs, 4 WRs, 0 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Wishbone -- 1 QB, 3 RBs, 1 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Single Back -- 1 RB, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

 
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Sorry for the hijack.

So for the OP... when I crafted my current leagues, I added a QB/RB flex, another WR, another TE, and a WR/TE flex, in order to help balance things out. Plus gave staggered PPR (TE 1, WR 0.5, RB 0.25).

I think they help make RB fantasy value much more appropriate compared to the NFL.

 
In our league your team must run one of these formations:

Proset -- 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Run & Gun -- 1 QB, 1 RBs, 4 WRs, 0 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Wishbone -- 1 QB, 3 RBs, 1 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Single Back -- 1 RB, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def
that actually sounds really cool lol.
 
Fantasy football should start adopting to the style of play in the NFL. For one, players are bigger and faster than ever before leading to more injuries. Also, with Thu games and concussion protocols, injured players are now resting even due to minor injuries. The league has also become RBBC happy and a passing league. This means there are barely any RBs to go around. Why dont more leagus go to some kind of 1RB, 2WR, 2FLEX format or something similar? This is getting ridiculous and taking a lot of fun out of playing the game to the point of it now just becoming a completely random crapshoot where a winner is determined by who stays healthiest and whos WR blew up in any given week. Just look at this:NE: Ridley- considered an RB1 but does anyone really trust him as anything more than an RB2?NYJ: Greene- flex optionMIA: Bush/Thomas- flex optionsBUF: Spiller/FJax- RB2s unless someone gets hurtPIT: RBBC- flex optionsBAL: Rice- RB1 but hes been disappointingCLE: TRich- RB1CIN: BJGE- RB2HOU: Foster- RB1TEN: CJ2K- same as Ridley, hes an RB1 but very untrustworthyJAX: Parmalee- flex optionIND: Ballard- flexKC: Charles- same as Ridley & CJ, untrustworthy RB1OAK: Reece/DMC- RB2SD: Mathews- RB2DEN: Hillman- RB2 or flex (unsure)PHI: McCoy- disappointing RB1DAL: Jones- RB2WAS: Morris- RB1 (I think the guy is a stud but his #s over the last 4 weeks are RB2 #s)NYG: Bradshaw/Brown- RB2 unless Bradshaw gets hurtGB: Starks- flexDET: LeShoure- RB2MIN: ADP- RB1CHI: Forte- RB1NO: lolCAR: Stewart- flexATL: Turner- RB2TB: Martin- RB1SF: Gore- RB1 (I guess)ARI: LSH- flexSTL: SJax- flexSEA: Lynch- RB1By my count, there are 8 RB1s and even half of those I wouldnt even call studs. Everybody else is starting RB2s and flexes and praying they get double digit points. This is fun?
The good thing about Fantasy Football is you can make up any rules you want as long as your league adopts them. Maybe in your league RBs are too difficult to draft and predict and you should do away with them all together. You could add the predictable PUNTER in place of the RB. Sounds fun
Punter is a great position for fantasy. Lends itself to predicting how a game will go much better than players who get their points from touchdowns and such. I strongly recommend adding punters for a nice twist to FF. Been using them for 6 years now, can't believe more leagues haven't adopted them.
Interesting angle on adding punting -- how does your scoring work for that position? As far as RBs go, I definitely agree that nabbing a dependable RB is hard, but that's exactly why "burning" an early round draft pick for a RB with a good shot at getting you consistent performance is more necessary than ever. Isn't the very fact that there is a lack of quality RBs make nabbing a great one that much more important? There is tangible value in securing a stud RB in the early rounds. Look, no one can predict how a season will go, who will get injured, which team will end up being better or worse than we expected -- hindsight is always 20/20.But I think stud RB's value is denoted more from relative potential consistency compared to other positions. For example, Top 10 RBs in my 14-team PPR league right now are:MartinPetersonFosterRiceLynchRichardsonMcCoySpillerCharlesCJohnsonHalf of these guys were drafted in the first round - Foster, Rice, Lynch, McCoy and Chris Johnson. Only Spiller was available past 27th overall (2.13), who was grabbed late by an amazingly insightful GM with talented foresight (me). To get a guy who had a good shot at being a top RB, you HAVE to grab one early.By comparison, the Top 10 WRs are:GreenCobbMarshallC JohnsonHarvinWhiteWayneDem ThomasV JacksonCruzOf this group, only Green, Megatron and White were taken in pick 28 or before. Cruz and Green were 3rd rounders, Harvin and VJax in the 4th. What this means is that you could more easily nab Top 10 production in later rounds with WRs than with RBs. Even with more people turning to stud QB/TE or WR/WR strategies on the turn, odds are your team was much stronger at RB1 and WR1 slots if you prioritized those few stud RBs instead of waiting on value later.I realize there has to be more analysis to really give this greater rigor, including relative points scored and opportunity value lost as opposed to gained by going RB stud in the first half of the first round. Without the time to do that full analysis, the difference between the #1 RB and the #10 RB in the list above is 57+ points; the difference between WR1 and WR10 is 37+. This means a steeper drop-off in value in the top RBs than in the Top WRs, again meaning it's more valuable to secure one of these Top RBs early than a Top WR who could be grabbed from later rounds.All obvious, I know, for anyone who looks at VBD. But still worth saying in the face of the "never burning early picks on RBs" talk. It's still a very viable and salient strategy.
 
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In our league your team must run one of these formations:

Proset -- 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Run & Gun -- 1 QB, 1 RBs, 4 WRs, 0 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Wishbone -- 1 QB, 3 RBs, 1 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Single Back -- 1 RB, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def
that actually sounds really cool lol.
Agreed - I like that a lot.
Oh and on the single back you still must have a QB. Its worked out really well and has allowed each franchise to draft and manage their team accordingly. Most teams still try to run a proset however this season more have been moving over to the run and gun.
 
...Punter is a great position for fantasy. Lends itself to predicting how a game will go much better than players who get their points from touchdowns and such. I strongly recommend adding punters for a nice twist to FF. Been using them for 6 years now, can't believe more leagues haven't adopted them.
Interesting angle on adding punting -- how does your scoring work for that position? ...
See post above.
 
In our league your team must run one of these formations:

Proset -- 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Run & Gun -- 1 QB, 1 RBs, 4 WRs, 0 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Wishbone -- 1 QB, 3 RBs, 1 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Single Back -- 1 RB, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def
We have something close to this but more open than yours and I love it.All teams must start QB, PK, Def,

0 to 3 RB's

0 to 5 WR's

0 to 5 TE's

Total of 5 starters from RB/WR/TE

Not quite 5 flex but it offers almost every NFL offense to be run, and for some reason since we have done it (Dynasty league switched to this format 3 years ago) trading has become more frequent.

 
The adage "you can never have enough RBs" is as true as it has ever been.I hear what you are saying about RBs being tough to come by, but it seems the most successful FF owners are those that can stockpile RBs and maintain reasonable strength at other positions.Easier said than done, but definitely makes it interesting in terms of pounding the waiver wire for RBs with potential.
:goodposting:It's not easy but it's doable. RB situation might be harder to read in fantasy football than in previous years but I don't think it's time to start phasing it out of leagues.
 
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Rb talent is impossible to come by and nfl players will not play with any aches except guys like ADP...setting lineup is laughable ....every other year all leagues I had wdis problems every week. Now its who isn't hurt or in a complete rbbc good. For 4 pts

 
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In before someone tells you Ray Rice isnt a disappointment,Basically, just go QB/WR/TE early then Take late value guys - Gore/Spiller/Turner/Ridley types. and hit the wire hard.Im not ever burning early picks on RBs again
:goodposting: At the end of the day that's where the value is...even if you have the opportunity to go RB/RB in rounds 1 and 2.
 
By my count, there are 8 RB1s and even half of those I wouldnt even call studs. Everybody else is starting RB2s and flexes and praying they get double digit points. This is fun?
You have to adapt.....sounds like you are stuck in a bad spot w/ your team this year. Better luck next year.
 
'GordonGekko said:
I know many 2 QB leagues have positional limitations of how many QBs you can carry at a given time, I can see RB turn that way to prevent RB hoarding.
You want to prevent RB hoarding? Get your league to enable more than 1 flex position. I'm in 1 league that uses this lineup:QBRBRB / WR flexWRWRWR / TE flexTEKDSTIt's only one more flex spot than a traditional FF lineup, but it dramatically expands the flexibility given to owners. You can go RB-heavy (but you won't be cornering the market, because no one else needs to start more than 1 RB); WR-heavy; even run a 2-TE set out there if you want. Beneficial side effect #1: In our (12-team) league, the "#1 waiver wire" guy at each position tends to be of roughly equivalent expected point level - as opposed to my standard leagues, where a guy like Cecil Shorts goes undrafted but the best RB option on the WW in the early weeks is someone like Bilal Powell.Beneficial side effect #2: because there's more RB talent on the WW on average, you generally don't have to waste roster spots on handcuffs - which frees up additional roster spots for guys who might actually contribute without relying on catastrophic injury.
 
'pbandy1 said:
'Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
In our league your team must run one of these formations:

Proset -- 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Run & Gun -- 1 QB, 1 RBs, 4 WRs, 0 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Wishbone -- 1 QB, 3 RBs, 1 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Single Back -- 1 RB, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def
that actually sounds really cool lol.
I proposed a similar setup in my league and not one guy liked it.
 
'Wrigley said:
How many RB1's do you need on your team?
Pay attention. This is the FBG Free for All... all owners have 4 or more RB1s on each team, in leagues paid for by their min. $250K salaries...
 
'Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
'zamboni said:
'pbandy1 said:
'Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
In our league your team must run one of these formations:

Proset -- 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Run & Gun -- 1 QB, 1 RBs, 4 WRs, 0 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Wishbone -- 1 QB, 3 RBs, 1 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Single Back -- 1 RB, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def
that actually sounds really cool lol.
Agreed - I like that a lot.
Oh and on the single back you still must have a QB. Its worked out really well and has allowed each franchise to draft and manage their team accordingly. Most teams still try to run a proset however this season more have been moving over to the run and gun.
Its the only way to play.I'm happy to see my idea at work with great satisfaction.

 
And to top it off, it seems like 1st and goal inside the 5 almost always leads to a passing TD. I've been saying for years that RB's are dead in fantasy football. Yet still they all go in the first two rounds. I guess it takes a long time for people to catch on.

 
'Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
'zamboni said:
'pbandy1 said:
'Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
In our league your team must run one of these formations:

Proset -- 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Run & Gun -- 1 QB, 1 RBs, 4 WRs, 0 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Wishbone -- 1 QB, 3 RBs, 1 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Single Back -- 1 RB, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def
that actually sounds really cool lol.
Agreed - I like that a lot.
Oh and on the single back you still must have a QB. Its worked out really well and has allowed each franchise to draft and manage their team accordingly. Most teams still try to run a proset however this season more have been moving over to the run and gun.
Its the only way to play.I'm happy to see my idea at work with great satisfaction.
Yeah its been enjoyed in our league since 1996. I would pull up my post about it but I can't find the microfiche any more. :rolleyes:
 
'Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
In our league your team must run one of these formations:

Proset -- 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Run & Gun -- 1 QB, 1 RBs, 4 WRs, 0 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Wishbone -- 1 QB, 3 RBs, 1 WRs, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Single Back -- 1 RB, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def
No double TE formation?!?Your league is a ####...

 
'GordonGekko said:
You want to prevent RB hoarding? Get your league to enable more than 1 flex position.
I don't disagree that flexes are very useful in situations like this, but again, the scoring matters. Often I find many flexes tend to lean in one direction. ( I.E. league with a Q/W/R/T flex simply end up being a 2 or 3 QB start league or W/R usually end up milking out the RB corps anyway or W/T usually leans towards the WR) Flexes are good for options, but again, if it's not supported by the scoring system, it won't matter, it will functionally be one type of slot versus a variable slot. It can say W/R/T, but if the scoring isn't balanced, it might just end up being a pure W or R only in terms of effectiveness. I find in long term leagues, it takes about 2 seasons to "tweak" the scoring when you start to make a major change in some valuation.
It all comes down to how complex your league's scoring system is. The simpler the scoring system, the more you can tweak positions without fear of throwing competitive balance totally out of whack. When you start getting into tiered yardage bonuses, fractional PPR, etc. then yeah, it can take a while to iron out all the kinks.I don't disagree that most flex positions tend to lean heavily towards one type of starter, but that doesn't mean the concept isn't working as designed. Example, in the 12-team league with the starting lineup I posted above, on a weekly basis probably 9 of the 12 start an RB in the first flex slot. But at least a guy who's got 3 RBs on his roster, with one injured and one on a bye week, can roll with his #4 WR instead without starting the week in basically a 10-point hole.From what I've seen, the "lack of RBs" (this thread topic in the first place) is most acute in "standard" flex leagues, where there's one flex that's limited to a 3rd RB or 3rd WR. Almost everyone wants to stockpile RBs in that format and there aren't enough every-down backs to go around, meaning by this point in the season, the luck of the draw and injuries result in teams with 3 starting RBs going up against teams with 1. I've tried to steer leagues I'm in away from that format over the years for just that reason.Oh ... and flex spots with a QB eligible are stupid. There, I've said it.
 

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