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The lesser rookie RB's (1 Viewer)

Jayrod

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There is enough discussion out there on Matthews, Spiller & Best to choke a horse, so this isn't about them. I considered including Hardesty in this discussion, but he is a pretty clear cut #4 and in a tier all his own, IMO. So here is a list of RB's I'd like to see you guys discuss and rank out for dynasty purposes.

Toby Gerhardt, MIN - Age 23 - Besides being the great white hope, Gerhardt is a clear cut handcuff for AP owners. His rookie rankings show him next in line after the four I mentioned above, but what good is a guy to your team if he is a backup for the next 4 years? AP isn't going anywhere and he sure isn't going to lose much action to Gerhardt this year and likely next. Maybe it becomes more of a true RBBC in 3 years if Gerhardt plays well? Is that the best case scenario? Unless you have AP or plan on trading Toby to the AP owner in the event of an injury, I don't see a lot of long term value here.

Anthony Dixon, SF - Age 23 - With the sudden retirement of Glen Coffee, Dixon shoots up the list. But now there is Westbrook to contend with this year, so he likely stays as a #3 back this year. And Gore is another stud, so unless there is an injury, Dixon has little to no value over the next 2-3 years. And what about after Gore? Is Dixon good enough to be a #1 RB? He is an SEC back with talent and could perform if given the opportunity, but how long until that happens?

Ben Tate, HOU - Age 22 - Before his injury he would have been on top of this list or even left off it next to Hardesty. Instead, here he is and dropping. What do you do with a guy who was questionable to be a starter in the first place and now will miss the entire season? Can he catch back on in 2011? He is still young, but is at an increased risk of busting by being out of action for a whole season. I guess if you league allows it, you could draft him and then just put him on the IR for the season, thus saving a roster spot.

Jonathan Dwyer, PIT - Age 21 - While he has the ability to become part of a RBBC in Pittsburgh, he came in out of shape, has been dinged up in camp and was drafted in the 6th round. All that doesn't bode well for his future, but it takes talent plus opportunity and Dwyer may actually have both. Mendenhall hasn't shown a full season of performance yet and I've read that Dwyer is a very powerful runner. Still, I don't really think he'll overtake Mendenhall and his best case scenario looks to be a goal line TD vulture/Mendenhall handcuff. He could have value in non-PPR or TD only leagues, but not as much in PPR.

James Starks, GB - Age 24 - Starks is older and missed a lot of his senior year with an injury. He is also from a small school. However, scouts thought his talent was more like a 2-3rd rounder and he can supposedly catch the ball well. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a chance with the Packers since Grant hasn't been a superstar and Jacobs has disappointed. With the focus on the passing game, the Packers backfield is actually a sweet spot to land for a back with receiving skills.

Deji Karim, JAX - Age 24 - He comes into a situation similar to many of these guys and is behind a stud RB, except Jones-Drew is solid and hasn't had any injury history to speak of. There is also the matter of 2nd year back Jennings being in competition for the backup role. One feather in Karim's cap is that he appears to be the team's primary kick returner which means he'll be on the roster and able to show some of his talents as well as provide value for those in KR leagues.

Joe McKnight - NYJ - Age 21 - McKnight comes from a big-time program, but there seems to be little expectation of him doing much in the pros. He is currently behind HOFer LT and a very young and capable Shonn Greene. The Jets are a prime location for a RB, but unless the two guys in front of him go down, McKnight will be lucky to see the field this year at all. However, he could move to #2 after LT is gone and the same talents that got him a place in the USC backfield could land him in at least some kind of role with the Jets. He is a supposed to be good receiver, but hasn't put anything together yet this year. I think of him as a real longshot to ever be fantasy relevant.

LaGarrette Blount, TEN - Age 24 - Blount is most famous for a punch thrown after his Oregon Ducks lost a tough game to Boise State last season. He was suspended for most of the season and severly hurt is draft chances. He actually went undrafted, but has landed with a team that could use a back to replace LenDale White. While Chris Johnson isn't going anywhere, Blount could earn a role if he can beat out Javon Ringer. But how valuable can he be with the best RB in football around and a running QB? Unless he impresses the team to become the #2 and CJ gets hurt, I don't think Blount has any value except in super deep leagues.

Well, what say you on these guys? Anyone else you think needs to be considered?

I just don't see this as a very deep RB draft class.

 
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Out of that group I like Starks, Dixon, Dwyer at their respective ADPs. This is assuming Dwyer has slipped in ADP, he's not a 1st rounder in a rookie draft for me.

 
They all suck. Seriously, they really all do and not only that, none of them landed in a great situation.

Gerhardt, I'm just not a beleiver. I own ADP in a dynasty and am making no moves to get him. College player, not a pro (totally MO)

Dixon I think can develop into a decent backup or RBBC type, but no real talent here either

Dwyer is obviously a bum and probably won't make the roster. Staff really screwed their rankings on this one.

Tate, who knows? Season ending injuries don't help marginal rookies (ask James Davis)

Starks will never see the light of day in that backfield

Karim seems a little more talented than this bunch but the Jags like Jennings and MJD ain't goin nowhere for a few years

McKnight, well, I can't use that word on this board. He runs like a woman's nether regions

Blount joke loser idiot all seem about right

Three legit talents and loose change for the 2010 RB class IMO

 
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They all suck. Seriously, they really all do and not only that, none of them landed in a great situation. Gerhardt, I'm just not a beleiver. I own ADP in a dynasty and am making no moves to get him. College player, not a pro (totally MO)Dixon I think can develop into a decent backup or RBBC type, but no real talent here eitherDwyer is obviously a bum and probably won't make the roster. Staff really screwed their rankings on this one.Tate, who knows? Season ending injuries don't help marginal rookies (ask James Davis)Starks will never see the light of day in that backfieldKarim seems a little more talented than this bunch but the Jags like Jennings and MJD ain't goin nowhere for a few yearsMcKnight, well, I can't use that word on this board. He runs like a woman's nether regionsBlount joke loser idiot all seem about rightFour legit talents and loose change for the 2010 RB class IMO
Tell us what you really think.
 
Changed my op to read three legit talents. Don't know where I got four.
Hardesty, maybe?I don't know what to do with him. He is the only one outside of the top three with a chance to even be in an RBBC to start the season.
 
Out of the group you mentioned, I don't really see anyone jumping through hoops in terms of fantasy RB value. Possibly Dixon. Possibly Karim. Possibly Dwyer, if he figures it out.

That's not to say someone else might not come along. Other guys not mentioned, like Joique Bell, Charles Scott or Keith Toston could find themselves in the lineup if the cookie crumbles the right way. You just never know when the next Nick Goings will come along...and then leave.

 
I would say Dixon looks the best of this group, and he won't sniff the field for 2 years at least with the situation he landed in. I would be surprised at any major contributions from this list within the next few years.

 
There is enough discussion out there on Matthews, Spiller & Best to choke a horse, so this isn't about them. I considered including Hardesty in this discussion, but he is a pretty clear cut #4 and in a tier all his own, IMO. So here is a list of RB's I'd like to see you guys discuss and rank out for dynasty purposes.

Anthony Dixon, SF - Age 23 - With the sudden retirement of Glen Coffee, Dixon shoots up the list. But now there is Westbrook to contend with this year, so he likely stays as a #3 back this year. And Gore is another stud, so unless there is an injury, Dixon has little to no value over the next 2-3 years. And what about after Gore? Is Dixon good enough to be a #1 RB? He is an SEC back with talent and could perform if given the opportunity, but how long until that happens?

Well, what say you on these guys? Anyone else you think needs to be considered?

I just don't see this as a very deep RB draft class.
Anthony Dixon is sitting behind two walking M.A.S.H units. It's not a question of "if" or "unless". They will have injury problems and Anthony Dixon will be gold. He's a bull and the OL is very good.

 
I like Starks, but boy does he seem to be blowing his opportunity not prticipating in camp throughout August with a hamstring injury. Even though the hamstring is not torn, the Packer website predicted he'll be put on IR and get nothing out if his rookie season, and give no reason for the Packers to consider him in their future plans. Really disappointed in this development, having taken a chance on him in the 2nd round of a rookie draft.

 
I like Starks, but boy does he seem to be blowing his opportunity not prticipating in camp throughout August with a hamstring injury. Even though the hamstring is not torn, the Packer website predicted he'll be put on IR and get nothing out if his rookie season, and give no reason for the Packers to consider him in their future plans. Really disappointed in this development, having taken a chance on him in the 2nd round of a rookie draft.
me too... :popcorn: :thumbup:
 
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I like Dixon out of that bunch. He dropped in the draft because of character and weight issues. Dixon has good vision, power, is a good receiver, and has a decent burst.... not much top end speed, but if he did, then he wouldn't be considered a "lesser" RB. Gore's carries have been on the decline since his career high of 313 in 2006. Westy is just a 1 year insurance policy, and if Gore were to get hurt, I can't see the 49ers putting the entire load on Westy's back. San Fran upgraded their line significantly through the draft and Singletary has made it no secret that he wants to run the ball. I like Dixon's talent, situation, and I can't think of too many better RB's to learn from than Gore and Westy.

 
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I think the problem for Dixon is that he maxes out as a 2 down back. And his lack of speed could still cause him problems even in short-yardage and goal-line situations. If the O-line has lost their momentum and the LOS is a static wall before Dixon gets there, he could be underwhelming. Lendale White, anyone? You don't have the be fast in the NFL, but you can't be slow.

I could be selling him short because I haven't seen him much this preseason. But I just wonder if he will be capable of anything better than RB3 numbers if Gore were to go down. I think he'll be paired in a RBBC if Gore gets hurt even after Westy leaves. With that kind of ceiling, I tend to look elsewhere.

 
I think the problem for Dixon is that he maxes out as a 2 down back. And his lack of speed could still cause him problems even in short-yardage and goal-line situations. If the O-line has lost their momentum and the LOS is a static wall before Dixon gets there, he could be underwhelming. Lendale White, anyone? You don't have the be fast in the NFL, but you can't be slow.

I could be selling him short because I haven't seen him much this preseason. But I just wonder if he will be capable of anything better than RB3 numbers if Gore were to go down. I think he'll be paired in a RBBC if Gore gets hurt even after Westy leaves. With that kind of ceiling, I tend to look elsewhere.
:drive: He's a pretty good receiver and has improved quite a bit in pass protection.
 
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