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Doubt they take a TE this high. Graham, Pollard, & E. Johnson are available via FA. I hope they take a top Safety if one is available (hope one slides). Thats there biggest weakness on offense or defense. Otherwise a polished route WR like Rice would be solid. A fast receiver that hasn't learned to run crisp routes is higher risk and not likely to make much of a difference this year.
So you think the secondary is just fine
, I would have to think it would be nice having someone who could actually cover worth a damn back there.
The goal of the first three rounds should be to take the franchise QB and blow up the o-line.1. Jamarcus Russell - Have to get a franchise QB when you're in position to do so. I still think Quinn is the better NFL prospect, but they seem locked in on JR.2. Joe Staley, LT Central Michigan/Tony Ugoh, LT ArkansasThey've officially moved Gallery back to the right side, and I don't believe Barry Sims is the answer at LT. Ugoh measured well at the combine and Staley dominated the smaller competition he faced this year. Either would be an upgrade.3. Best available guard/center - Maybe they get lucky and one of Ben Grubbs or Josh Beekman slides to the top of the 3rd. Maybe Aaron Sears moves from tackle to guard. Manny Ramirez is a likely option.What do you think?
There are no defensive backs worth the #5 pick this year. Maaaaaaaybe Laron Landry, but certainly no corners.So you think the secondary is just fine, I would have to think it would be nice having someone who could actually cover worth a damn back there.
I'm not sold on Russell, but it's just paramount for the franchise to get a young signal caller for the future, so I guess a QB at 1 is the only way to go. It would be a coup if they could trade down a few spots, get some additional picks and still get Russell. At the top of the 2nd round it should definitely be a lineman. Can't really go wrong with either Tackle you mentioned, but I definitely wouldn't mind a speed rusher to compliment Burgess. This class is deep enough to get a starter at 2.01.The third round we should use on another lineman, depending oon which position we address in the 2nd round, so either Oline or Dline.I should note that I would be very happy with either Thomas, Johnson or Peterson in the first round, but since there's no veteran QB in FA of the Brees caliber, there really is no way we can pass on a QB in the first.
I'm not sold on Russell either, but if they trade out of that spot, they're not getting him. I personally think that if they're planning on playing a rookie QB this year, they should take Quinn instead of Russell. Who knows, maybe they'll go crazy and take CJ #1 and then take Drew Stanton with the #2.
Al Davis IS insane you know!
Sounds good to me. Wouldn't mind snagging a TE, if Patrick or someone like that is available in the third. I wouldn't even be mad at Miller at the top of the 2nd. Would prefer a dominating blocker who can catch, a la Dan Graham, but that guy isn't in this draft. Staley is a dream pick at #33, read somewhere the Bears are targetting him in the 1st. I'd also be shocked if the Raiders stay at #33. It's a popular spot for teams that want to trade down, as it's the first pick with a significant salary drop, and you can generally still get 1st round talent. Plus, the Raiders love trading up. If Lynch makes it past GB, wouldn't surpise me to see Al make a move for him, maybe trying to leapfrog the Jets. Or someone else, just a thought. Hmmm, maybe Kalil? Grove has been a disappointment, and Kiffin has the USC connection. Either way, standing pat with that pick just seems unlikely to me.A guard in the first day is less likely to me as a T, TE, or C just because both McQuistan and Boothe seem to have roles with this team.
Best receiver to come out in years and a physical freak.... wouldn't be surprising at all!I'm not sold on Russell either, but if they trade out of that spot, they're not getting him. I personally think that if they're planning on playing a rookie QB this year, they should take Quinn instead of Russell. Who knows, maybe they'll go crazy and take CJ #1 and then take Drew Stanton with the #2.Al Davis IS insane you know!
By the way, Tom Martinez has had nothing but good things to say about Russell after working with him for a week down in Tempe, AZ. For what its worth.
If Kalil is there in the 2nd, I think that would make a tough decision for the Raiders. Take the LT like Staley or Ugoh, or Kalil the center? I think Kalil is going to go in the first though, as this mock shows.
Nelson is not the prospect that most people think. But you could very well be right. Where do you see him going?
Agreed, but thats not what I said. I questioned the statement that the only glaring holes of the Cards is OL and LBThere are no defensive backs worth the #5 pick this year. Maaaaaaaybe Laron Landry, but certainly no corners.So you think the secondary is just fine, I would have to think it would be nice having someone who could actually cover worth a damn back there.
Oh. I see.The only glaring hole in the linebacking corps is on the strong side, right? Dansby and Hayes are both pretty good.As much as I hate Denny Green, I think he should have been given one more year. The Cards are so close.Agreed, but thats not what I said. I questioned the statement that the only glaring holes of the Cards is OL and LBThere are no defensive backs worth the #5 pick this year. Maaaaaaaybe Laron Landry, but certainly no corners.So you think the secondary is just fine
There has been talk about moving Dansby to WLB, in which case they are a SLB short. If he stays at SLB they need a quality WLB, and Hayes has had problems staying healthy but he is a plugger and had a breakout year in 06. The o-line is an obvious weakness but not as horrible as people think IMO, however the secondary except for Wilson is just awful. Thats why I brought it up, I do expect them to sign a CB in FA though. If not Clements then someone/anyone, Rod Hood maybe.Agree 100% about giving the fat man one more year.Oh. I see.The only glaring hole in the linebacking corps is on the strong side, right? Dansby and Hayes are both pretty good.As much as I hate Denny Green, I think he should have been given one more year. The Cards are so close.Agreed, but thats not what I said. I questioned the statement that the only glaring holes of the Cards is OL and LBThere are no defensive backs worth the #5 pick this year. Maaaaaaaybe Laron Landry, but certainly no corners.So you think the secondary is just fine
I know you are assuming no trades, but I think the talk of Arizona taking Peterson is a smokescreen to drive up the trade value of the 5th pick. Trade down and pick up O-Line help. Not only do they need someone to open holes for Edge, but they need to keep that franchise QB upright. The top RB talent in the draft will look mighty appealing to some teams if he falls to 5th. Finding someone to spell Edge every 3rd series is a lot easier later in the draft than finding beef for the O-line.
Yea you beat me to this, if the saints took Olsen in the first I would not only be shocked but I would be pretty pissed because we have glaring holes on defense and alot of the guys we do have doing a good job are getting well up there in age. No doubt I agree we need a good pass catching TE and we will most likely try to obtain one I just dont see it happening in the first. Id like to see us maybe trade up in the second to attempt to pick him up or pursue other options. Like Saintfool said, we can move the ball its stopping other people from moving it thats our problem
Now, I would be interested in seeing his QB rating for those games, but LOSING those games can hardly be blamed on him.
But would you rather have the #1 TE prospect, or the number #3/4+ DT or CB in the first? You don't necessarily take the "need" player with your first pick.
Well, we have a Pro Bowl safety and future pro Bowler at corner, we can definitely improve but it is not as glaring of a need as OL and LB IMHO.So you think the secondary is just fine
I know you can't be talking about Rolle ?Well, we have a Pro Bowl safety and future pro Bowler at corner, we can definitely improve but it is not as glaring of a need as OL and LB IMHO.So you think the secondary is just fine, I would have to think it would be nice having someone who could actually cover worth a damn back there.
, he has a chance to develop still but thus far I have been disappointed with him. At this point he looks like no more than an adequate #2 IMHO
I know you can't be talking about Rolle ?
We'll have to agree to disagree, his development has been slow but I believe he's a stud in the making.I know you can't be talking about Rolle ?Well, we have a Pro Bowl safety and future pro Bowler at corner, we can definitely improve but it is not as glaring of a need as OL and LB IMHO.So you think the secondary is just fine
That's going to get Hall back to the top-14 or so. I had seen many mocks were he was slipping closer to 20.Leon Hall apparently ran a 4.39 today and Landry ran a 4.35.
Agreed.That's going to get Hall back to the top-14 or so. I had seen many mocks were he was slipping closer to 20.Leon Hall apparently ran a 4.39 today and Landry ran a 4.35.
Jerry should be committed.I was the first one I've seen to have Carriker to the Cowboys, about two months ago. It does seem like a perfect fit.
that's what everybody here is praying for.
Another quandary for you AD...from last weekend's Cleveland Plain Dealer...
Good info here.
I'll keep that in mind when I do an update later next week after the major free agent signings are done.
Honestly I would MUCH rather us pick Pulozsny (spelling way off i know) or Timmons, in the first, then Greg Olsen.
Both are distinct possibilities. Although the Saints LB's played pretty well this year.
You still want to include Edge in the "great" category?5. Arizona - Adrian Peterson (RB - Oklahoma)James is on the downside and they want to work him less. Given the league's trend to two rotating backs, this makes too much sense.
No way AD gets past Cleveland unfortunately.Unless there is a DE/DT they like I don't think he will get past Denver or NE. Lynch has 1-2 years left tops, and Ferguson is recovering from a bad knee injury and is not a young pup himself.
I have Griffin going to NE.
I agree. He is the type of player that tey should be looking to add and maybe slightly improve the locker room too.
As an aside, how do you guys see Ahmad Brooks developing?
Brooks showed some flashes last year when Simmons was out with an injury, but then didn't even dress in 2 of the last 4 games. He could be an impact player if he keeps his head on straight.
