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[Cowboys#1]

I am trying to make sense of it all but I am getting nowhere.Anyone have a clue as to who has the edge to get in, and who is on the outside looking in?

 

[3C's]

I am trying to make sense of it all but I am getting nowhere.

Anyone have a clue as to who has the edge to get in, and who is on the outside looking in?

Dallas outside looking in right now.In:

NYG

WAS

CHI

CAR

TAM

SEA

MIN could be tied with Dallas if they win.

 

[valhallan]

Yeah Dallas needs at least a win and a Redskins loss or they're out

 

[Cowboys#1]

what chance does minny or dal have of getting in?ie. if wash wins, car loses, dal wins does dallas get in? (assuming tb wins the division)the way it is now..nyg is 10-5wash is 9-6dal is 9-6tb is 10-5 car is 10-5chi is 10-4min is 8-6next weekstl @ dalwash @ phichi @ minnno @ tbcar @ atlnyg @ oakim confident dallas will go to 10-6.. even still it looks like it will be tie-breakers settling it.

 

[Ridgelake]

If everybody wins next week, then Carolina and the Skins are the wildcards. TB is the #3 seed and the Giants #4.Washington has the best conference record right now at 9-2 of the competing teams. They also have the head-to-head over Dallas. Everyone else is 7-4 right now with the giants at 8-4. If somehow the Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Cowboys, Redskins, and Vikings all end up at 10-6, then the Giants get the East (better division record), the Redskins get 1 wildcard (best conference record). I don't know who would win the south or get the last wildcard. It gets to be a big mess.: :

 

[Ghost Rider]

The Giants should be feeling fortunate for getting that extra home game.

 

[titan20]

Are the Falcons eliminated?

 

[wilked]

Are the Falcons eliminated?

yes

 

[wilked]

The Giants should be feeling fortunate for getting that extra home game.

Agreed, no way could they beat the Saints on the road.So, assuming Chicago wins tomorrow, it will be

nyg is 10-5

wash is 9-6

dal is 9-6

tb is 10-5

car is 10-5

min is 8-6 (pending)

Giants, win and they are in, NFC champs. Also, lots of scenarios can get them in without a win.

Washington, win and they are in.

Dallas, need to win and get help. Same for Minny.

Washington should beat Philly, so I am pencilling them in. Same goes for Giants. I think Min loses tiebreakers to NFC North teams, so Car / TB should get other spot

 

[Eli2Shockey]

If everybody wins next week, then Carolina and the Skins are the wildcards. TB is the #3 seed and the Giants #4.

Washington has the best conference record right now at 9-2 of the competing teams. They also have the head-to-head over Dallas. Everyone else is 7-4 right now with the giants at 8-4.

If somehow the Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Cowboys, Redskins, and Vikings all end up at 10-6, then the Giants get the East (better division record), the Redskins get 1 wildcard (best conference record). I don't know who would win the south or get the last wildcard. It gets to be a big mess.

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I just checked and redskins have a better division record than the giants if they win next week...what happens if dallas and giants are both 10-6 with the same conference record, would giants get the spot because they have a better division record?

 

[Ghost Rider]

The Giants should be feeling fortunate for getting that extra home game.

Agreed, no way could they beat the Saints on the road.

I assume this is sarcasm. If so, may I remind you that the Giants only two road wins this year are against the 3-12 49ers and a depleted Eagles team (six days after they lost 42-0 at home). The Giants have been a weak road team this year. And the Saints had won week 1 AT Carolina, but having to play a home game in their opponent's home stadium clearly affected the Saints and cost them. Would the Giants have won the game if it had been played in San Antonio or somewhere else? Maybe, maybe not. We will never know. The bottom line, though, is the Giants were given an unfair competitive advantage and might make the playoffs and win the NFC East as a result.

 

[Cowboys#1]

what if tb carolina loses to atl?that drops them to 10-6 dal wins and they are 10-6.. wash wins and they are 10-63 way tie, who's in, who's out?

 

[wilked]

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers

 

[wilked]

The Giants should be feeling fortunate for getting that extra home game.

Agreed, no way could they beat the Saints on the road.

I assume this is sarcasm. If so, may I remind you that the Giants only two road wins this year are against the 3-12 49ers and a depleted Eagles team (six days after they lost 42-0 at home). The Giants have been a weak road team this year. And the Saints had won week 1 AT Carolina, but having to play a home game in their opponent's home stadium clearly affected the Saints and cost them. Would the Giants have won the game if it had been played in San Antonio or somewhere else? Maybe, maybe not. We will never know. The bottom line, though, is the Giants were given an unfair competitive advantage and might make the playoffs and win the NFC East as a result.

Saints have won 2 games since week 1, against the Bills and Jets. Let's not get carried away now...Yes, they received an advantage, but this is like giving me a 20 second head start in a road race against Lance Armstrong, really won't affect the outcome.

 

[Cowboys#1]

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers

according to that the tiebreaker is h2h.so with the dallas win, if car loses next week we would win the wc, and if tb wins they win the division.

.. i think

 

[Capella]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.That's all I know and care about.

 

[Winston Smith]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.

That's all I know and care about.

So you're saying the Bucs have won the South?:saintsfan:

Bush, Leinart, or Ferguson would be a welcome addition here!

 

[Capella]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.

That's all I know and care about.

So you're saying the Bucs have won the South?:saintsfan:

Bush, Leinart, or Ferguson would be a welcome addition here!

Please keep Brooks.

 

[Quez]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.

That's all I know and care about.

So you're saying the Bucs have won the South?:saintsfan:

Bush, Leinart, or Ferguson would be a welcome addition here!

Please keep Brooks.

 

[wilked]

bump

 

[MikeApf]

If everybody wins next week, then Carolina and the Skins are the wildcards. TB is the #3 seed and the Giants #4.

Washington has the best conference record right now at 9-2 of the competing teams. They also have the head-to-head over Dallas. Everyone else is 7-4 right now with the giants at 8-4.

If somehow the Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Cowboys, Redskins, and Vikings all end up at 10-6, then the Giants get the East (better division record), the Redskins get 1 wildcard (best conference record). I don't know who would win the south or get the last wildcard. It gets to be a big mess.

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I don't know how the whole thing works, but I thought if Washington and Giants ended up tied at 10-6, incredibly Washington would win the division. If the Redskins beat the Eagles, then that means they would only have one division loss (at Giants)...M

 

[snogger]

Here you go:

Standings

NFC scenarios

• The Bucs would be the AFC South champions based on better division record than Panthers.

• The Bucs are No. 3 seed based on better conference record than the Giants.

• The Redskins are No. 6 seed based on head-to-head sweep of the Cowboys.

Wild-card matchups

AFC

Pittsburgh Steelers at Cincinnati Bengals

Jacksonville Jaguars at New England Patriots

First-round byes: Indianapolis Colts, Denver Broncos

NFC

Washington Redskins at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Carolina Panthers at New York Giants

First-round byes: Seattle Seahawks, Chicago Bears

 

[Elway Lives]

What would have to happen for Minnesota to sneak in? They are still theoretically still in the running aren't they? I assume they would have to win out and Chicago would also have to lose today and next week at the least?

 

[BloodyPigSkin]

This is the current update going into today's gameslayoff clinching scenarios for Sunday and for Week 17 (note: there are other clinching scenarios based on teams losing games that will be updated at a later date). AFC East• The Patriots have clinched the AFC East. AFC North• The Bengals have clinched the AFC North. • The Steelers can clinch a playoff spot with:1. A win2. A Chiefs loss or tie3. A Chargers win (note: although Chargers have been eliminated, if they win vs. Broncos and they, the Chiefs and the Steelers all finish at 10-6, you would break division ties first. Chargers would win tiebreaker vs. Chiefs based on common opponents (8-4 vs 7-5) and that would eliminate the Chiefs. They would then go to tiebreaker vs. Steelers, which Pittsburgh would win based on its head-to-head win vs. Chargers)AFC South• The Colts have clinched the AFC South, a first-round bye and home-field advantage in the AFC. • The Jaguars have clinched a playoff spot. AFC West• The Broncos have clinched the AFC West and a first-round bye. • The Chiefs can clinch a playoff spot with:1. A win and a Steelers loss and a Chargers loss or tie.NFC East• The Giants clinch a playoff spot with:1. A Vikings loss or tie Sunday vs. the Ravens • The Giants can clinch NFC East with:1. A win2. A Redskins loss or tie • The Redskins can clinch a playoff spot with:1. A win • The Redskins can clinch the NFC East with a win and a Giants lossNFC North• The Bears clinch the NFC North with:1. A win or tie Sunday against the Packers2. A Vikings loss or tie Sunday vs. the Ravens • The Bears will clinch a first-round bye with:1. A win Sunday over the PackersNFC South• The Buccaneers can clinch the NFC South with:1. A win2. Panthers loss3. A tie and a Panthers tie • The Panthers can clinch a playoff spot with a win. • The Panthers can clinch the NFC South with a win and a Bucs loss or tie. NFC West• The Seahawks have clinched the NFC West, a first-round bye and home-field advantage in the NFC.The Texans, 49ers, Ravens, Browns, Packers, Saints, Jets, Raiders, Titans, Cardinals, Bills, Lions, Eagles, Rams, Dolphins, Chargers and Falcons have been eliminated from playoff contention.

 

[Cowboys#1]

i still want to know what happens if there is a three way tie at 10-6 between car, wash and dal.is our only hope a washington loss? or can we get in with a carolina loss? (based on the win vs. them)

 

[AB in DC]

then the Skins and Cowboys both make it as wild cards, and Carolina is out.

 

[mcjc4]

then the Skins and Cowboys both make it as wild cards, and Carolina is out.

What if MN is also 10-6? They would have the same NFC record as Dallas, 8-4. and only 1 division loss. (although i don't think that matters)

 

[jwvdcw]

If everybody wins next week, then Carolina and the Skins are the wildcards. TB is the #3 seed and the Giants #4.

Washington has the best conference record right now at 9-2 of the competing teams. They also have the head-to-head over Dallas. Everyone else is 7-4 right now with the giants at 8-4.

If somehow the Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Cowboys, Redskins, and Vikings all end up at 10-6, then the Giants get the East (better division record), the Redskins get 1 wildcard (best conference record). I don't know who would win the south or get the last wildcard. It gets to be a big mess.

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The Redskins have the tiebreaker over NYG, as they have the better conference record(will be 5-1 if they win, Giants are 4-2).I have a complete breakdown of the Redskins chances in the "redskins thread" if anyone wants to see that.

What I don't know is who would have the tiebreaker between Minn and Dallas.

 

[jwvdcw]

If everybody wins next week, then Carolina and the Skins are the wildcards.  TB is the #3 seed and the Giants #4.

Washington has the best conference record right now at 9-2 of the competing teams. They also have the head-to-head over Dallas.  Everyone else is 7-4 right now with the giants at 8-4. 

If somehow the Giants, Bucs, Panthers, Cowboys, Redskins, and Vikings all end up at 10-6, then the Giants get the East (better division record), the Redskins get 1 wildcard (best conference record).  I don't know who would win the south or get the last wildcard.  It gets to be a big mess.

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I just checked and redskins have a better division record than the giants if they win next week...what happens if dallas and giants are both 10-6 with the same conference record, would giants get the spot because they have a better division record?

If the tie is within a division, then division record is the 2nd tiebreaker(head to head is first) and they never look at conference record.

 

[jwvdcw]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.

That's all I know and care about.

And they could get the #2 seed if Chicago loses a game.

 

[jwvdcw]

i still want to know what happens if there is a three way tie at 10-6 between car, wash and dal.

is our only hope a washington loss? or can we get in with a carolina loss? (based on the win vs. them)

Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

5. Strength of victory.

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in conference games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

12. Coin toss

I'm not positive, but I think that Wash and Dallas would get in because Dallas would have a better conference record than Carolina should they win and Carolina loses next week.

 

[jwvdcw]

then the Skins and Cowboys both make it as wild cards, and Carolina is out.

What if MN is also 10-6? They would have the same NFC record as Dallas, 8-4. and only 1 division loss. (although i don't think that matters)

Division record wouldn't matter- you're right. Do Dallas and Minnesota have 4 or more common opponents this year? If so, what were the results of those games because thats what it would come down to. If they don't, then it would come down to strength of victory.

 

[Doug Drinen]

i still want to know what happens if there is a three way tie at 10-6 between car, wash and dal.

is our only hope a washington loss? or can we get in with a carolina loss? (based on the win vs. them)

Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)1. Apply division tie breaker to ELIMINATE all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

5. Strength of victory.

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in conference games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

12. Coin toss

I'm not positive, but I think that Wash and Dallas would get in because Dallas would have a better conference record than Carolina should they win and Carolina loses next week.

That's not how I read it. Since Dallas loses a tiebreaker against any combination of Giants and Redskins, I think the bolded part means that they need a win and a Redskin loss to have a chance.

Am I wrong?

 

[FairWarning]

I love the people who think it is no big deal going to NO or San Antonio. The travel (even after a win) does wear on you. If its no big deal, maybe the league can give the Giants 7 home games and the rest of the division 9. I hope the Giants can play the Bears in the playoffs,

 

[GhostOfAnAlias]

The Cowboys CAN get in if both they and the Redskins win next week -- but only if Carolina loses.Tampa would win the NFC South; Washington would win the #5 wildcard seed; and Dallas and Carolina (and possibly Minnesota) would be tied for the #6 wildcard seed.Dallas beats Carolina on head-to-head, and it beats Minnesota on strength-of-victory.Dallas cannot make the playoffs with a loss.

 

[omally]

I love the people who think it is no big deal going to NO or San Antonio. The travel (even after a win) does wear on you. If its no big deal, maybe the league can give the Giants 7 home games and the rest of the division 9.

I hope the Giants can play the Bears in the playoffs,

I think it's petty to harp on it. An enormous tragic event happened and the NFL made the call to have the game at the Giants. Just so you know, usually it isn't a big deal for teams to go to NO's. Most visiting teams win there, and I'm sure Eli would have felt right at home in Louisianna.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.

That's all I know and care about.

And they could get the #2 seed if Chicago loses a game.

The Bears clinched the number 2 seed with their win over Green Bay earlier. I am pretty sure Tampa Bay gets the 3 seed if they win next week.

 

[Capella]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.

That's all I know and care about.

And they could get the #2 seed if Chicago loses a game.

The Bears clinched the number 2 seed with their win over Green Bay earlier. I am pretty sure Tampa Bay gets the 3 seed if they win next week.

they do, although I'd almost rather have the #4. give me a 2nd-rd game against Seattle instead of Chicago (if they got there).

 

[AB in DC]

i still want to know what happens if there is a three way tie at 10-6 between car, wash and dal.

is our only hope a washington loss? or can we get in with a carolina loss? (based on the win vs. them)

Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)1. Apply division tie breaker to ELIMINATE all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

5. Strength of victory.

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in conference games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

12. Coin toss

I'm not positive, but I think that Wash and Dallas would get in because Dallas would have a better conference record than Carolina should they win and Carolina loses next week.

That's not how I read it. Since Dallas loses a tiebreaker against any combination of Giants and Redskins, I think the bolded part means that they need a win and a Redskin loss to have a chance.

Am I wrong?

I think you are.Say Washington, Dallas, and Carolina are tied at 10-6, w/NYG and TB winning the divisions.

To resolve the tie for the first wild card spot, first resolve Wash vs. Dallas tie, which goes to Washington (h2h). Washington gets the wild card over Carolina (conf record)

Now there's a tie for the second wild card spot. Carolina and Dallas are tied, so start a new tiebreaker process for this spot. Dallas makes it on h2h.

 

[Cowboys#1]

i still want to know what happens if there is a three way tie at 10-6 between car, wash and dal.

is our only hope a washington loss? or can we get in with a carolina loss? (based on the win vs. them)

Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)1. Apply division tie breaker to ELIMINATE all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

5. Strength of victory.

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in conference games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

12. Coin toss

I'm not positive, but I think that Wash and Dallas would get in because Dallas would have a better conference record than Carolina should they win and Carolina loses next week.

That's not how I read it. Since Dallas loses a tiebreaker against any combination of Giants and Redskins, I think the bolded part means that they need a win and a Redskin loss to have a chance.

Am I wrong?

I think you are.Say Washington, Dallas, and Carolina are tied at 10-6, w/NYG and TB winning the divisions.

To resolve the tie for the first wild card spot, first resolve Wash vs. Dallas tie, which goes to Washington (h2h). Washington gets the wild card over Carolina (conf record)

Now there's a tie for the second wild card spot. Carolina and Dallas are tied, so start a new tiebreaker process for this spot. Dallas makes it on h2h.

thanks for that.i guess it comes down to rooting for atlanta and philly tomorrow while hoping dallas crushes stl.

we need some help guys!

 

[Doug Drinen]

Say Washington, Dallas, and Carolina are tied at 10-6, w/NYG and TB winning the divisions.

To resolve the tie for the first wild card spot, first resolve Wash vs. Dallas tie, which goes to Washington (h2h). Washington gets the wild card over Carolina (conf record)

Now there's a tie for the second wild card spot. Carolina and Dallas are tied, so start a new tiebreaker process for this spot. Dallas makes it on h2h.

Yep. I think you're right. This is the key:

1. Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild-Card tie breakers.

Thanks.

 

[meanjoegreen]

i guess it comes down to rooting for atlanta and philly tomorrow while hoping dallas crushes stl.

we need some help guys!

Maybe the refs will help you out like they did last Saturday.

 

[ThisGuy]

i guess it comes down to rooting for atlanta and philly tomorrow while hoping dallas crushes stl.

we need some help guys!

Maybe the refs will help you out like they did last Saturday.

The refs have been extremely kind to the Cowboys for a few weeks now.

 

[jurb26]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.

That's all I know and care about.

And they could get the #2 seed if Chicago loses a game.

The Bears clinched the number 2 seed with their win over Green Bay earlier. I am pretty sure Tampa Bay gets the 3 seed if they win next week.

they do, although I'd almost rather have the #4. give me a 2nd-rd game against Seattle instead of Chicago (if they got there).

Can you explain this please? Why would you rather play Sea in Sea where they hardly every loose over the Bears. Sea is the hottest team in the NFC and NFL and looks to be head and shoulders above the rest of the Conference.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.

That's all I know and care about.

And they could get the #2 seed if Chicago loses a game.

The Bears clinched the number 2 seed with their win over Green Bay earlier. I am pretty sure Tampa Bay gets the 3 seed if they win next week.

they do, although I'd almost rather have the #4. give me a 2nd-rd game against Seattle instead of Chicago (if they got there).

Can you explain this please? Why would you rather play Sea in Sea where they hardly every loose over the Bears. Sea is the hottest team in the NFC and NFL and looks to be head and shoulders above the rest of the Conference.

As great as Seattle is right now, they have looked less-than-impressive in their home games against above .500 teams. They were fortunate to beat Dallas and the Giants. They also barely eeked out a win over the Falcons. The win over a Colts team resting many of their players this past weekend does not really count. Meanwhile, since losing to the Bengals in September at home, the Bears have faced three above .500 teams at home and won all three by double digits (the combined score being 57-9). That is domination.

So, can you now see why playing at Chicago might be a bit scarier than at Seattle for some?

 

[Cowboys#1]

i guess it comes down to rooting for atlanta and philly tomorrow while hoping dallas crushes stl.

we need some help guys!

Maybe the refs will help you out like they did last Saturday.

The refs have been extremely kind to the Cowboys for a few weeks now.

dont think so..we lost against the giants (a game we really didnt deserve) but it wasnt handed to us by the refs or anyone else.

we lost to denver (thanks billy) that game appeared to be ours but the refs had no impact on it

we beat kc (this is probably what you are referring to) the call on derrick johnson was a clear hold, go back and check the game thread, it seemed obvious. dont think the refs helped except by making the right call

lose to washington (over before it started)

beat carolina (smith ejection and the personal foul at the end are two disputed calls) smith put his hands on the official thats auto-personal foul IIRC, the last play.. it was really tough to see if the ball was touched, the refs made the call and they didnt see enough evidence to overturn it.

the fact is, calls go for and against a team i dont think its fair to say that 1 team gets all the calls and 1 team gets shafted.

 

[Ghost Rider]

i guess it comes down to rooting for atlanta and philly tomorrow while hoping dallas crushes stl.

we need some help guys!

Maybe the refs will help you out like they did last Saturday.

The refs have been extremely kind to the Cowboys for a few weeks now.

dont think so..we lost to denver (thanks billy) that game appeared to be ours but the refs had no impact on it

That is just wrong. Denver led 21-14 when Dallas' defender recovered a fumble out of bounds, but the Broncos were out of challenges and since the ref right there was apparently blind, the Cowboys were basically given a gift inside the Denver 10-yard line.

 

[fatness]

Maybe I missed it in the thread, but:If the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys all end up at 10-6, which one does not make the playoffs?

 

[jurb26]

Tampa beats the Saints next week, they win the South.

That's all I know and care about.

And they could get the #2 seed if Chicago loses a game.

The Bears clinched the number 2 seed with their win over Green Bay earlier. I am pretty sure Tampa Bay gets the 3 seed if they win next week.

they do, although I'd almost rather have the #4. give me a 2nd-rd game against Seattle instead of Chicago (if they got there).

Can you explain this please? Why would you rather play Sea in Sea where they hardly every loose over the Bears. Sea is the hottest team in the NFC and NFL and looks to be head and shoulders above the rest of the Conference.

As great as Seattle is right now, they have looked less-than-impressive in their home games against above .500 teams. They were fortunate to beat Dallas and the Giants. They also barely eeked out a win over the Falcons. The win over a Colts team resting many of their players this past weekend does not really count. Meanwhile, since losing to the Bengals in September at home, the Bears have faced three above .500 teams at home and won all three by double digits (the combined score being 57-9). That is domination.

So, can you now see why playing at Chicago might be a bit scarier than at Seattle for some?

Well, Sea is traditionally oone of the tougher places to play in the NFL. Sea always seems to have a skewed homefield record vs away and have only lost at home 3 times in the past 3 seasons. They are undefeted there this year. On top of that, they are the best and most complete team in the NFC. Sea has the #15 D in yds and #4 D in scoring. They have the #1 O in yds and #1 in points. On top of that they are a +9 in TO margin and are winners of 11 straight games. I'm sorry, but no I don't think this is a team anyone should be looking forward to playing. Especially not at home with the passing game really catching fire with DJax back and Hassy playing lights out. Don't get me wrong, I love Chi and have been calling them to take their division since the offseaon. I also think going to Chi in the playoffs is not something anyone wants to do. It's just that Sea looks to be the better team not to mention tougher place to play recently and further travel for nearly all NFC teams making the playoffs.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Maybe I missed it in the thread, but:

If the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys all end up at 10-6, which one does not make the playoffs?

Washington would win the division.Then,

If Carolina wins:

Carolina is the 5 seed.

The Giants are the 6 seed.

If Carolina loses:

The Giants are the 5 seed.

Dallas is the 6 seed.

I am 99.99999999% sure this is how it goes.