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The NFL has Imploded (1 Viewer)

As of Today, X would be your Franchise QB..

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rizzler

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As of January 2, 2013 the NFL has imploded and you are left to choose the franchise QB of your new NFL team, the Otisville Knuckleheads.

Who is the FIRST QB off the board for your team? Why?

Go.

 
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Has to be a QB.

Luck/RG3/Wilson are unproven, not picking them. Gotta let guys go through year 2.

Manning, Brady and Brees too old.

Gotta be Rodgers. Rodgers has you competing for the playoffs the next 8 years. That's good enough.

 
Rodgers hands down.

If anything he's been underrated this year. Given his situation with shotty O-line production, no RBs, and WR injuries (Jennings, Nelson, Cobb all have been ailing at some point) he still keeps on trucking. His recognition on free plays is unbelievable, elusiveness in the pocket is outstanding, and always has his eyes downfield, and has one of the best arms in the game. Another 8 years of production doesn't hurt either.

 
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'shader said:
Has to be a QB.Luck/RG3/Wilson are unproven, not picking them. Gotta let guys go through year 2.Manning, Brady and Brees too old.Gotta be Rodgers. Rodgers has you competing for the playoffs the next 8 years. That's good enough.
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Interesting thought process.. While I don't disagree with your final pick, I dont necessarily agree that Luck/RG3/Wilson aren't worth the selection. :popcorn:Shocked Stafford hasnt been brought up almost immediately, either.
 
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'meyerj31 said:
Rodgers hands down.

If anything he's been underrated this year. Given his situation with shotty O-line production, no RBs, and WR injuries (Jennings, Nelson, Cobb all have been ailing at some point) he still keeps on trucking. His recognition on free plays is unbelievable, elusiveness in the pocket is outstanding, and always has his eyes downfield, and has one of the best arms in the game. Another 8 years of production doesn't hurt either.
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Rogers. 8 years is more than enough time to worry about a replacement. Even 5 years is.
 
'rizzler said:
'shader said:
Has to be a QB.

Luck/RG3/Wilson are unproven, not picking them. Gotta let guys go through year 2.

Manning, Brady and Brees too old.

Gotta be Rodgers. Rodgers has you competing for the playoffs the next 8 years. That's good enough.
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Interesting thought process.. While I don't disagree with your final pick, I dont necessarily agree that Luck/RG3/Wilson aren't worth the selection. :popcorn:

Shocked Stafford hasnt been brought up almost immediately, either.
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Matt Stafford? :mellow:

 
I'd take Luck. He doesn't have any of the flaws the others do.

RGIII would be my pick except that with that frame and his inability to protect himself I think he's going to be injured a lot. This season isn't a fluke IMO.

Newton has been lights out his first two seasons and if he was better mentally I'd take him first, but he's a knucklehead and I'm not sure he'll ever be a good leader.

Wilson's a great story and someone I was wrong about. Kid can play. But he's not being asked to win games by himself throwing the ball 40 times and I don't think he could do that if he had to.

Luck is winning games with an otherwise average team, is much bigger than RGIII and doesn't expose himself the same way, and seems rock solid mentally.

I can see an argument for Rodgers, but I'm sold on Luck and IMO the extra 6-8 years of production is worth the risk that Luck never reaches that level of play.

 
'Mr.Pack said:
'rizzler said:
'shader said:
Has to be a QB.

Luck/RG3/Wilson are unproven, not picking them. Gotta let guys go through year 2.

Manning, Brady and Brees too old.

Gotta be Rodgers. Rodgers has you competing for the playoffs the next 8 years. That's good enough.
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Interesting thought process.. While I don't disagree with your final pick, I dont necessarily agree that Luck/RG3/Wilson aren't worth the selection. :popcorn:

Shocked Stafford hasnt been brought up almost immediately, either.
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Matt Stafford? :mellow:
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Yep. While he may not be the most talented, there's no denying he can put up numbers. Then again, so can Romo....

It's all in the eye of the beholder.

 
Stafford and the rookies wouldn't even be in the conversation for me. I think Peyton has question marks the others don't have even if he's overcome it this season. Brady is the best player in the NFL to me. It's really just a matter of whether I think the difference between Brady and Rodgers is enough to justify the difference in age.

I would probably go Brady and worry about the future later. You never know what will happen 5 years down the road anyway. I wouldn't fault anybody for taking Rodgers.

 
It would be between Cam and Rodgers for me. Cam needs to be in the poll, at least.

 
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It'd be between Rodgers and Luck for me.

I'd probably gamble a bit and go with Luck. His ceiling is as high as best to ever play and he's already shown in his first year that it's not just talk. To do what he did in his first year with the supporting cast he has is ridiculous.

 
I'm seriously shocked to see an 8:1 vote for Luck over RG3.

Id be happy with either, but 8:1? That's poppycock

 
'Sabertooth said:
Oh come on, who picked Peyton?
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I think Luck is just as silly as Peyton. If you pick either of those 2 you're simply not factoring in risk at all to the equation when risk should be 1 of the primary factors. It's simply not that easy to just project Luck to become the next Manning/Brady. Guys like that come along once a decade. You really have no idea if he is that special. His 2012 play was nowhere near approaching their level. It doesn't make sense to compare Luck's rookie stats in todays game where everyone is throwing for big numbers to what anyone did as rookies 10 years ago.Even if I buy in that Luck is some kind of lock to be great, I would always put the focus on becoming a contender in 2013 above being a contender 5,7,10 years from now. He's not going to win you a SB in 2013. He really won't even make you a contender for it. The teams who start with Brady/Rodgers/Manning should be among the top 5 next year. That's a pretty safe bet.
 
'rizzler said:
I'm seriously shocked to see an 8:1 vote for Luck over RG3.Id be happy with either, but 8:1? That's poppycock
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RGIII's injury risk is much greater than Luck's. He is electric, but like Vick, he is going to end up missing a lot more games due to hits he'll take while running. Luck is also more accurate, does a better job with his reads and is a slightly more intelligent player. All those reasons are close and I could see it being a tossup on these issues. But the increased injury risk is reason enough to go with Luck. The starting QB is important enough that I want HIM playing every game, not 14 games plus a backup for 2.
 
RGIII or Luck. It's a dead heat for me. My pick would probably depend on what I ate for breakfast the day of the draft.

 
'GroveDiesel said:
It'd be between Rodgers and Luck for me. I'd probably gamble a bit and go with Luck. His ceiling is as high as best to ever play and he's already shown in his first year that it's not just talk. To do what he did in his first year with the supporting cast he has is ridiculous.
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If we could guarantee that Luck would play longer than Rodgers, I'd take him too. But we can't, so I'll take Rodgers and start scouting high schools for his replacement.
 
'GroveDiesel said:
'rizzler said:
I'm seriously shocked to see an 8:1 vote for Luck over RG3.

Id be happy with either, but 8:1? That's poppycock
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RGIII's injury risk is much greater than Luck's. He is electric, but like Vick, he is going to end up missing a lot more games due to hits he'll take while running. Luck is also more accurate, does a better job with his reads and is a slightly more intelligent player. All those reasons are close and I could see it being a tossup on these issues. But the increased injury risk is reason enough to go with Luck. The starting QB is important enough that I want HIM playing every game, not 14 games plus a backup for 2.
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*COUGH*bull####*COUGH*
 
Luck and to me an easy call. With all due respect to the great RG3(who I prefer in fantasy) the talent evaluators nailed this when they called Luck the greatest prospect in the last 20+ years. He's got no flaws. None. Leader, winner, tough, durable, athletic, arm, legs, youth.

 
'meyerj31 said:
Rodgers hands down. If anything he's been underrated this year. Given his situation with shotty O-line production, no RBs, and WR injuries (Jennings, Nelson, Cobb all have been ailing at some point) he still keeps on trucking. His recognition on free plays is unbelievable, elusiveness in the pocket is outstanding, and always has his eyes downfield, and has one of the best arms in the game. Another 8 years of production doesn't hurt either.
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This, he has enough time left where you aren't going to take a shot at Newton, Luck, RG3, Wilson. All of those guys had great first years but still could flame out in a couple years. By time you are looking for your next quarterback you could have multiple Super Bowl titles, and the quarterbacks that are on this list will be retired or older than he is now.
 
I am shocked that Luck has almost as many votes as Rodgers. Luck would be my #2 choice without hesitation, but Rodgers is far too proven and still young enough that he has a bunch of good years left in him (could even be upwards of 8). The age difference between the two is not enough that I would be concerned at all on that front at the QB position.

 
'rizzler said:
'Slapdash said:
It would be between Cam and Rodgers for me. Cam needs to be in the poll, at least.
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added.Didnt think anyone would take a guy with no leadership skills (can of worms : opened)
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He showed a great deal of leadership on the field in college and in the Panthers' late season resurgance, IMO. I can't stand the guy personally, but I think he has the highest upside of the younger QBs.
 
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'scothawk said:
I went Rodgers but trading back and picking Cam wouldnt be bad either.
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You don't trade "The Man" ... You trade up to get "The Man" ... you don't trade out of it. Look at how stupid the Rams look for trading away RG3. I'll take RG3 over 4 1sts and they gave up "only" 3.
 
Find it amusing how Cam would be near the bottom for me, but is a consideration for others at #1.

I adore subjectivity.

 
'GroveDiesel said:
'rizzler said:
I'm seriously shocked to see an 8:1 vote for Luck over RG3.Id be happy with either, but 8:1? That's poppycock
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RGIII's injury risk is much greater than Luck's. He is electric, but like Vick, he is going to end up missing a lot more games due to hits he'll take while running. Luck is also more accurate, does a better job with his reads and is a slightly more intelligent player. All those reasons are close and I could see it being a tossup on these issues. But the increased injury risk is reason enough to go with Luck. The starting QB is important enough that I want HIM playing every game, not 14 games plus a backup for 2.
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Anyone who believes Luck is more accurate than RGIII hasn't looked at any of the stats or watched any of the games. Anyone who believes Luck is more intelligent hasn't listened to a word of any interviews involving Luck or RGIII.
 
'Warrior said:
'GroveDiesel said:
'rizzler said:
I'm seriously shocked to see an 8:1 vote for Luck over RG3.Id be happy with either, but 8:1? That's poppycock
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RGIII's injury risk is much greater than Luck's. He is electric, but like Vick, he is going to end up missing a lot more games due to hits he'll take while running. Luck is also more accurate, does a better job with his reads and is a slightly more intelligent player. All those reasons are close and I could see it being a tossup on these issues. But the increased injury risk is reason enough to go with Luck. The starting QB is important enough that I want HIM playing every game, not 14 games plus a backup for 2.
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Anyone who believes Luck is more accurate than RGIII hasn't looked at any of the stats or watched any of the games. Anyone who believes Luck is more intelligent hasn't listened to a word of any interviews involving Luck or RGIII.
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Anyone who thinks Luck's and Griffin's offenses don't promote a different completion percentage probably doesn't understand their respective roles all that well. Anyone who thinks he can discern a difference in their football intelligence from their interviews is probably just confirming his preconceived notion.
 
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Toss up for Luck and Stafford.

Just don't believe RG3 will be able to survive his playstyle, I think he is currently playing at a substantially higher level than Luck though.

 
RG3 for me. Not only is he the leagues most dangerous weapon, but he's the most marketable player too! I want to win games AND make money!!

 
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