The NFL's 2009 Free Agency Class: The Top 10 Overall (1 Viewer)

[thriftyrocker]

What is the deal with Housh? Can he be franchised by Cincy? Will he be franchised by Cincy? They have to keep at least one of Housh and 85, and you have to figure they keep Housh, right?

 

[JGalligan]

Stats:2005-2006: 110 total tackles and 8 interceptions2007-2008: 64 total tackles and 2 interceptionsI'M NOT SAYING HE'S BAD! All I'm saying is when compared to his performances in 2005 and 2006, his production has tailed off. Because it has.He's still nasty though.

Tackles/INTs aren't necessarily great indicators of CB effectiveness (arguably, the best corners will have less of both)

Stats:2005-2006: 110 total tackles and 8 interceptions2007-2008: 64 total tackles and 2 interceptionsI'M NOT SAYING HE'S BAD! All I'm saying is when compared to his performances in 2005 and 2006, his production has tailed off. Because it has.He's still nasty though.

I'd argue that his 2007-2008 numbers actually equate to better production.His job is to prevent his cover from catching the ball. If they don't even throw his direction that is the best possible outcome.He's numbers say he's doing his job even better these days.

Ehh, you guys are right. I'll edit his section a bit so it doesn't make it sound like he's been playing worse.

 

[Tau837]

How is Engram a more important FA than Vilma or Robinson?

I think everyone's forgetting that he caught 94 balls for nearly 1,200 yards and 6 TD's in 2007. He's a wide receiver. Out of all the positions, I would think that WR is the most kind to those who are getting up there in age. He's 35 right now and will be 36 for the majority of next season. If he stays healthy, he's going to have a good year, I'm sure of it.

I didn't forget. He had a career year in 2007. Given what he's done this year, and the fact that he has struggled to stay on the field at age 35, I don't see the value in him that you do. Can you name the WRs currently playing major roles in the NFL that are 36 or older?Toomer and Mason are 34. Muhammad is 35.Bruce is 36, and he has 39 catches this season. Of course, Bruce is a likely HOFer playing for Mike Martz, his old coach.Galloway is 37 and has only played in 4 games this year, though he had a 1000 yard season last year at age 36. Of course, Galloway had 5 other 1000 yard seasons in his career before last year.Who am I missing? It's fairly rare for 36 year old WRs to make a significant impact. Plus, to imply he has value as a free agent implies that he would have to make that impact in a new offense with a new QB and coaching staff. I expect success in that situation is even more rare.

 

[trader jake]

What the heck, I'll play...

Trader Jake's Top 50 2009 Free Agents

50) Shane Lechler - OAK P - my team doesn't have a punter so yes he should be here

49) Ricky Williams - MIA RB

48) Brandon Jones - TEN WR

47) J.J. Arrington - ARI RB

46) Pete Kendall - WAS G

45) Justin Miller - NYJ CB

44) Kyle Boller - BAL QB

43) Rex Grossman - CHI QB

42) J.P. Losman - BUF QB

41) Jim Kleinsasser - MIN TE/FB

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40) Bobby Engram - SEA WR

39) Nate Washington - PIT WR

38) Devery Henderson - NO WR

37) Phillip Buchanon - TB CB

36) Brian Dawkins – PHI FS

35) Tra Thomas - PHI LT

34) Jon Runyan - PHI RT

33) Kevin Carter - TB DE

32) Shaun Cody - DET DT

31) Angelo Crowell - BUF LB

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30) Jeff Garcia - TB QB

29) John Thornton - CIN DT

28) Matt Birk - MIN C

27) Mark Tauscher - GB RT

26) Kerry Collins - TEN QB

25) Mike Peterson - JAX LB

24) Eric Barton - NYJ LB

23) Darren Sproles - SD RB

22) Derrick Ward - NYG RB

21) Sean Jones - CLE SS

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20) Mike Goff - SD G

19) Bertrand Berry - ARI DE/LB

18) Jonathan Vilma - NO LB

17) Marc Colombo - DAL RT

16) Stacy Andrews - CIN RT

15) Vernon Carey - MIA RT

14) Jonathan Babineaux - ATL DT

13) Oshiomogho Atogwe - STL FS

12) Karlos Dansby - ARI LB

11) Brandon Jacobs - NYG RB

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10) T.J. Houshmandzadeh - CIN WR

9) Dunta Robinson - HOU CB

8) Kurt Warner - ARI QB

7) Matt Cassel - NE QB

6) Ray Lewis - BAL LB

5) Jordan Gross - CAR LT/RT

4) Terrell Suggs - BAL DE/LB

3) Julius Peppers - CAR DE

2) Albert Haynesworth - TEN DT

1) Nnamdi Asomugha - OAK CB - tough call over the defensive lineman but he's that good

Not positive if all of these players are unrestricted, so homers chime in if any have resigned.

Any players I have ranked way too high or way too low?

 

[JGalligan]

How is Engram a more important FA than Vilma or Robinson?

I think everyone's forgetting that he caught 94 balls for nearly 1,200 yards and 6 TD's in 2007. He's a wide receiver. Out of all the positions, I would think that WR is the most kind to those who are getting up there in age. He's 35 right now and will be 36 for the majority of next season. If he stays healthy, he's going to have a good year, I'm sure of it.

I didn't forget. He had a career year in 2007. Given what he's done this year, and the fact that he has struggled to stay on the field at age 35, I don't see the value in him that you do. Can you name the WRs currently playing major roles in the NFL that are 36 or older?Toomer and Mason are 34. Muhammad is 35.

Bruce is 36, and he has 39 catches this season. Of course, Bruce is a likely HOFer playing for Mike Martz, his old coach.

Galloway is 37 and has only played in 4 games this year, though he had a 1000 yard season last year at age 36. Of course, Galloway had 5 other 1000 yard seasons in his career before last year.

Who am I missing? It's fairly rare for 36 year old WRs to make a significant impact. Plus, to imply he has value as a free agent implies that he would have to make that impact in a new offense with a new QB and coaching staff. I expect success in that situation is even more rare.

Why would we have to look at the present? Let's take a look at the past with the help of the wonderful and addicting Game Log Dominator!Here are the stats of some wide receivers who have played at age 36 since 1995:

Jerry Rice

82 receptions for 1,157 yards and 9 TD’s

Jimmy Smith

70 receptions for 1,023 yards and 6 TD’s

Joey Galloway

57 receptions for 1,014 yards and 6 TD’s

Tim Brown

81 receptions for 930 yards and 2 TD’s

Cris Carter

73 receptions for 871 yards and 6 TD’s

Isaac Bruce

38 receptions for 623 yards and 6 TD’s (12 games this year)

Irving Fryar

48 receptions 556 yards and 2 TD’s

Tony Martin

37 receptions for 548 yards and 3 TD’s

Rod Smith

52 receptions for 512 yards and 3 TD’s

Marvin Harrison

48 receptions for 505 yards and 4 TD’s

Ricky Proehl

34 receptions for 497 yards

Keenan McCardell

36 receptions for 437 yards

Henry Ellard

32 receptions for 485 yards and 4 TD’s

Now, I know a lot of players on that list are going to go to the Hall of Fame like you said, but what that shows is that it's possible to continue to be a productive WR at the age of 36. I'm not saying the guy's going to win an MVP -- I'm saying he's going to get a lot of looks from teams that are looking for a veteran, 50 reception, 500 yard 5 TD guy. That's it.

I just got an idea for a target write up though.. the effect a WR's age has on his targets.

 

[JGalligan]

The average for a 36 year old WR since 1995 (with the largest and least excluded in each category):

52 receptions for 688 yards and 3.8 TD's.

 

[FUBAR]

Now, I know a lot of players on that list are going to go to the Hall of Fame like you said, but what that shows is that it's possible to continue to be a productive WR at the age of 36. I'm not saying the guy's going to win an MVP -- I'm saying he's going to get a lot of looks from teams that are looking for a veteran, 50 reception, 500 yard 5 TD guy. That's it.

I just got an idea for a target write up though.. the effect a WR's age has on his targets.

great, now reread my question and answer again.

How is Engram a more important FA than Vilma or Robinson?

 

[Tau837]

What the heck, I'll play... Trader Jake's Top 50 2009 Free Agents 50) Shane Lechler - OAK P - my team doesn't have a punter so yes he should be here 49) Ricky Williams - MIA RB48) Brandon Jones - TEN WR47) J.J. Arrington - ARI RB46) Pete Kendall - WAS G45) Justin Miller - NYJ CB44) Kyle Boller - BAL QB43) Rex Grossman - CHI QB42) J.P. Losman - BUF QB41) Jim Kleinsasser - MIN TE/FB---40) Bobby Engram - SEA WR39) Nate Washington - PIT WR38) Devery Henderson - NO WR37) Phillip Buchanon - TB CB36) Brian Dawkins – PHI FS35) Tra Thomas - PHI LT34) Jon Runyan - PHI RT33) Kevin Carter - TB DE32) Shaun Cody - DET DT31) Angelo Crowell - BUF LB---30) Jeff Garcia - TB QB29) John Thornton - CIN DT28) Matt Birk - MIN C27) Mark Tauscher - GB RT26) Kerry Collins - TEN QB25) Mike Peterson - JAX LB24) Eric Barton - NYJ LB23) Darren Sproles - SD RB22) Derrick Ward - NYG RB21) Sean Jones - CLE SS---20) Mike Goff - SD G19) Bertrand Berry - ARI DE/LB18) Jonathan Vilma - NO LB17) Marc Colombo - DAL RT16) Stacy Andrews - CIN RT15) Vernon Carey - MIA RT14) Jonathan Babineaux - ATL DT13) Oshiomogho Atogwe - STL FS12) Karlos Dansby - ARI LB11) Brandon Jacobs - NYG RB---10) T.J. Houshmandzadeh - CIN WR9) Dunta Robinson - HOU CB8) Kurt Warner - ARI QB7) Matt Cassel - NE QB6) Ray Lewis - BAL LB5) Jordan Gross - CAR LT/RT4) Terrell Suggs - BAL DE/LB3) Julius Peppers - CAR DE2) Albert Haynesworth - TEN DT1) Nnamdi Asomugha - OAK CB - tough call over the defensive lineman but he's that good Not positive if all of these players are unrestricted, so homers chime in if any have resigned.Any players I have ranked way too high or way too low?

Great list.Did you intend to leave Dawan Landry and Bart Scott off?Also, I noticed Miles Austin and Jahri Evans are RFAs. I could see them drawing some attention.Others to consider: Jermaine Phillips, Marvel Smith, and Jason Brown.

 

[JGalligan]

Now, I know a lot of players on that list are going to go to the Hall of Fame like you said, but what that shows is that it's possible to continue to be a productive WR at the age of 36. I'm not saying the guy's going to win an MVP -- I'm saying he's going to get a lot of looks from teams that are looking for a veteran, 50 reception, 500 yard 5 TD guy. That's it.

I just got an idea for a target write up though.. the effect a WR's age has on his targets.

great, now reread my question and answer again.

How is Engram a more important FA than Vilma or Robinson?

I think he'd be a more valuable pick up to be honest. I'm not saying I'm right, I'm not saying I'm wrong. It's what I think to be true. My list isn't the end all be all -- I just wanted to provide a launching point for all types of free agent discussion. As we've seen from some of the other lists, many of them are completely different. Who's in your Top 10?

 

[Native]

JP Losman will be a hot commodity this summer. He could thrive in the right offense and someone will give him a shot.

 

[Tau837]

How is Engram a more important FA than Vilma or Robinson?

I think everyone's forgetting that he caught 94 balls for nearly 1,200 yards and 6 TD's in 2007. He's a wide receiver. Out of all the positions, I would think that WR is the most kind to those who are getting up there in age. He's 35 right now and will be 36 for the majority of next season. If he stays healthy, he's going to have a good year, I'm sure of it.

I didn't forget. He had a career year in 2007. Given what he's done this year, and the fact that he has struggled to stay on the field at age 35, I don't see the value in him that you do. Can you name the WRs currently playing major roles in the NFL that are 36 or older?Toomer and Mason are 34. Muhammad is 35.

Bruce is 36, and he has 39 catches this season. Of course, Bruce is a likely HOFer playing for Mike Martz, his old coach.

Galloway is 37 and has only played in 4 games this year, though he had a 1000 yard season last year at age 36. Of course, Galloway had 5 other 1000 yard seasons in his career before last year.

Who am I missing? It's fairly rare for 36 year old WRs to make a significant impact. Plus, to imply he has value as a free agent implies that he would have to make that impact in a new offense with a new QB and coaching staff. I expect success in that situation is even more rare.

Why would we have to look at the present? Let's take a look at the past with the help of the wonderful and addicting Game Log Dominator!Here are the stats of some wide receivers who have played at age 36 since 1995:

Jerry Rice

82 receptions for 1,157 yards and 9 TD’s

Jimmy Smith

70 receptions for 1,023 yards and 6 TD’s

Joey Galloway

57 receptions for 1,014 yards and 6 TD’s

Tim Brown

81 receptions for 930 yards and 2 TD’s

Cris Carter

73 receptions for 871 yards and 6 TD’s

Isaac Bruce

38 receptions for 623 yards and 6 TD’s (12 games this year)

Irving Fryar

48 receptions 556 yards and 2 TD’s

Tony Martin

37 receptions for 548 yards and 3 TD’s

Rod Smith

52 receptions for 512 yards and 3 TD’s

Marvin Harrison

48 receptions for 505 yards and 4 TD’s

Ricky Proehl

34 receptions for 497 yards

Keenan McCardell

36 receptions for 437 yards

Henry Ellard

32 receptions for 485 yards and 4 TD’s

Now, I know a lot of players on that list are going to go to the Hall of Fame like you said, but what that shows is that it's possible to continue to be a productive WR at the age of 36. I'm not saying the guy's going to win an MVP -- I'm saying he's going to get a lot of looks from teams that are looking for a veteran, 50 reception, 500 yard 5 TD guy. That's it.

I just got an idea for a target write up though.. the effect a WR's age has on his targets.

This whole tangent started when you suggested that Engram is the 8th best free agent who will be available this offseason. There have now been at least 50 free agents named who will be more valuable. Yes, I agree that he can put up Ricky Proehl caliber numbers next year for some team that needs a veteran 3rd WR. But the fact is, that just isn't rare or particularly valuable production. We can just agree to disagree at this point.

 

[JGalligan]

How is Engram a more important FA than Vilma or Robinson?

I think everyone's forgetting that he caught 94 balls for nearly 1,200 yards and 6 TD's in 2007. He's a wide receiver. Out of all the positions, I would think that WR is the most kind to those who are getting up there in age. He's 35 right now and will be 36 for the majority of next season. If he stays healthy, he's going to have a good year, I'm sure of it.

I didn't forget. He had a career year in 2007. Given what he's done this year, and the fact that he has struggled to stay on the field at age 35, I don't see the value in him that you do. Can you name the WRs currently playing major roles in the NFL that are 36 or older?Toomer and Mason are 34. Muhammad is 35.

Bruce is 36, and he has 39 catches this season. Of course, Bruce is a likely HOFer playing for Mike Martz, his old coach.

Galloway is 37 and has only played in 4 games this year, though he had a 1000 yard season last year at age 36. Of course, Galloway had 5 other 1000 yard seasons in his career before last year.

Who am I missing? It's fairly rare for 36 year old WRs to make a significant impact. Plus, to imply he has value as a free agent implies that he would have to make that impact in a new offense with a new QB and coaching staff. I expect success in that situation is even more rare.

Why would we have to look at the present? Let's take a look at the past with the help of the wonderful and addicting Game Log Dominator!Here are the stats of some wide receivers who have played at age 36 since 1995:

Jerry Rice

82 receptions for 1,157 yards and 9 TD’s

Jimmy Smith

70 receptions for 1,023 yards and 6 TD’s

Joey Galloway

57 receptions for 1,014 yards and 6 TD’s

Tim Brown

81 receptions for 930 yards and 2 TD’s

Cris Carter

73 receptions for 871 yards and 6 TD’s

Isaac Bruce

38 receptions for 623 yards and 6 TD’s (12 games this year)

Irving Fryar

48 receptions 556 yards and 2 TD’s

Tony Martin

37 receptions for 548 yards and 3 TD’s

Rod Smith

52 receptions for 512 yards and 3 TD’s

Marvin Harrison

48 receptions for 505 yards and 4 TD’s

Ricky Proehl

34 receptions for 497 yards

Keenan McCardell

36 receptions for 437 yards

Henry Ellard

32 receptions for 485 yards and 4 TD’s

Now, I know a lot of players on that list are going to go to the Hall of Fame like you said, but what that shows is that it's possible to continue to be a productive WR at the age of 36. I'm not saying the guy's going to win an MVP -- I'm saying he's going to get a lot of looks from teams that are looking for a veteran, 50 reception, 500 yard 5 TD guy. That's it.

I just got an idea for a target write up though.. the effect a WR's age has on his targets.

This whole tangent started when you suggested that Engram is the 8th best free agent who will be available this offseason. There have now been at least 50 free agents named who will be more valuable. Yes, I agree that he can put up Ricky Proehl caliber numbers next year for some team that needs a veteran 3rd WR. But the fact is, that just isn't rare or particularly valuable production. We can just agree to disagree at this point.

Agreed.Although I will admit that in retrospect it might have been wise to include him in the honorable mentions.

 

[renesauz]

No OL?

Gross probably belongs on the list. I also forgot to include Suggs.Looks like Matt Birk, Mark Tauscher, Tra Thomas, Jon Runyan, Marc Colombo, and Mike Goff could also be available.

Thomas and Ruyan might be nice additions to some squads, but both are old and are starting to really struggle in the running game (although still dominant in pass protection). They're more veteran depth then true studs at this late point in their careers.

 

[FUBAR]

Now, I know a lot of players on that list are going to go to the Hall of Fame like you said, but what that shows is that it's possible to continue to be a productive WR at the age of 36. I'm not saying the guy's going to win an MVP -- I'm saying he's going to get a lot of looks from teams that are looking for a veteran, 50 reception, 500 yard 5 TD guy. That's it.

I just got an idea for a target write up though.. the effect a WR's age has on his targets.

great, now reread my question and answer again.

How is Engram a more important FA than Vilma or Robinson?

I think he'd be a more valuable pick up to be honest. I'm not saying I'm right, I'm not saying I'm wrong. It's what I think to be true. My list isn't the end all be all -- I just wanted to provide a launching point for all types of free agent discussion. As we've seen from some of the other lists, many of them are completely different. Who's in your Top 10?

I just don't see a 36 year old WR who would probably put up stats like Ike Hilliard to be that highly sought after. Dunta is one of the better corners in the game, Vilma a darn good MLB. I hadn't thought much about it, but Jake's list looks good. Good discussion and thanks for putting it out there, but we'll disagree here.

 

[renesauz]

How is Engram a more important FA than Vilma or Robinson?

I think everyone's forgetting that he caught 94 balls for nearly 1,200 yards and 6 TD's in 2007. He's a wide receiver. Out of all the positions, I would think that WR is the most kind to those who are getting up there in age. He's 35 right now and will be 36 for the majority of next season. If he stays healthy, he's going to have a good year, I'm sure of it.

I didn't forget. He had a career year in 2007. Given what he's done this year, and the fact that he has struggled to stay on the field at age 35, I don't see the value in him that you do. Can you name the WRs currently playing major roles in the NFL that are 36 or older?Toomer and Mason are 34. Muhammad is 35.

Bruce is 36, and he has 39 catches this season. Of course, Bruce is a likely HOFer playing for Mike Martz, his old coach.

Galloway is 37 and has only played in 4 games this year, though he had a 1000 yard season last year at age 36. Of course, Galloway had 5 other 1000 yard seasons in his career before last year.

Who am I missing? It's fairly rare for 36 year old WRs to make a significant impact. Plus, to imply he has value as a free agent implies that he would have to make that impact in a new offense with a new QB and coaching staff. I expect success in that situation is even more rare.

Why would we have to look at the present? Let's take a look at the past with the help of the wonderful and addicting Game Log Dominator!Here are the stats of some wide receivers who have played at age 36 since 1995:

Jerry Rice

82 receptions for 1,157 yards and 9 TD’s

Jimmy Smith

70 receptions for 1,023 yards and 6 TD’s

Joey Galloway

57 receptions for 1,014 yards and 6 TD’s

Tim Brown

81 receptions for 930 yards and 2 TD’s

Cris Carter

73 receptions for 871 yards and 6 TD’s

Isaac Bruce

38 receptions for 623 yards and 6 TD’s (12 games this year)

Irving Fryar

48 receptions 556 yards and 2 TD’s

Tony Martin

37 receptions for 548 yards and 3 TD’s

Rod Smith

52 receptions for 512 yards and 3 TD’s

Marvin Harrison

48 receptions for 505 yards and 4 TD’s

Ricky Proehl

34 receptions for 497 yards

Keenan McCardell

36 receptions for 437 yards

Henry Ellard

32 receptions for 485 yards and 4 TD’s

Now, I know a lot of players on that list are going to go to the Hall of Fame like you said, but what that shows is that it's possible to continue to be a productive WR at the age of 36. I'm not saying the guy's going to win an MVP -- I'm saying he's going to get a lot of looks from teams that are looking for a veteran, 50 reception, 500 yard 5 TD guy. That's it.

I just got an idea for a target write up though.. the effect a WR's age has on his targets.

I rather think this list kind of proves the rareness of productive old WR's. This is over a fairly lng period and is full of HOF caliber players. Engram is NOT a HOF caliber player. A valuable role player and team leader? Sure! A coveted prize FA WR? Umm...no.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Haynesworth is a dangerous idiot. He is the type that might blow up at any minute or who might get lazy after getting a contract. In the end, though, I suspect he will stay motivated for another 5 years at least. If so he should be the #1 sought after guy if football is all that matters and character is tossed out. A D.T. such as he makes both of any teams current D.E.'s markedly more productive by taking pressure off of them and by driving pockets back into an easier rush angle for them. He improves linebacker play up the middle by nearly always engaging two blockers on those plays where he is not making the tackle. There are few things linebackers enjoy more than no clutter around their feet and knees. He shortens the time D.B.'s have to cover by half a beat, and that can be huge, particularly if a team plays man.

He is a punk as a person, but boy is he just what the doctor ordered for the Packers D. If they could get Haynesworth in F.A. it would allow them to address the

O)-line and the D.B.'s in the draft. We could see the Packers right back in the Conference Championship game with the addition of this one F.A. As I recall the Packers have cap space to spend.

 

[sho nuff]

Haynesworth is a dangerous idiot. He is the type that might blow up at any minute or who might get lazy after getting a contract. In the end, though, I suspect he will stay motivated for another 5 years at least. If so he should be the #1 sought after guy if football is all that matters and character is tossed out. I D.T. such as he makes both of any teams current d.E.'s markedly more productive by taking pressure of of them and by driving pockets back into an easier rush angle for them. he improves linebacker play up the middle by nearly always engaging two blockers on those plays where he is not making the tackle. There are few things linebackers enjoy more than no clutter around their feet and knees. He shortens the time D.B.'s have to cover by half a beat, and that can be huge, particularly if a team plays man.He is a punk as a person, but boy is he just what the doctor ordered for the Packers D. If they coulod get haynesworth in F.A. it would allow them to address the )-line and the D.B.'s in the draft. We could see the Packers right back in the Conference Championship game with the addition of this one F.A. As I recall the Packers have cap space to spend.

I would not totally call him a punk.Much of his problems comes during a game. He may have some anger issues or something where he just cannot separate the gameplay part with getting too hyped up and acting out on it.Im not defending his actions...the stomp was awful. But most that know and talk to him were quite shocked at it.He is actually a very nice and very smart guy off the field by nearly every account of those who have dealt with him.But he has been said to have a hard time settling down "in the heat of the battle" and goes off.I just would not label that totally a punk.Not sure on what their cap space will be this offseason yet.I think they are under 10 mil under right now after the Rodgers deal.Tauscher is a Free Agent and they will likely extend Jennings in the offseason. Have not looked at the other FAs on the team to see who else is coming up. IIRC there are a few.

 

[Phurfur]

I think you left out two guys that are arguably more dominant than 8 or so guys on you list: Terrell Suggs from Baltimore & A. Boldin from Arizona.

Hmm, that might be because Boldin is still under contract next year.

Correct, Boldin's contract runs through 2010.

 

[Phurfur]

I think you left out two guys that are arguably more dominant than 8 or so guys on you list: Terrell Suggs from Baltimore & A. Boldin from Arizona.

Hmm, that might be because Boldin is still under contract next year.

Correct, Boldin's contract runs through 2010.

 

[Marvelous]

I thought Boldin re-signed? As for Suggs.. ehh, I think he's hit his peak and won't succeed nearly as well in another system other than Baltimore. I'm gonna go check on Boldin really quick -- I could have sworn he re-signed.. I'll add Suggs to the honorable mentions though.

Solid discussion topic JG. But my man, Suggs belongs higher on this list. He's a way more attractive FA than Engram, Dawkins, and Garcia (all of whom are older than me - which isn't a good thing).

I think Engram, Dawkins, and Garcia are all too old to be considered top tier free agents. No one will (or at least should) sign them to a big, long term contract.

 

[MAC_32]

What the heck, I'll play... Trader Jake's Top 50 2009 Free Agents 50) Shane Lechler - OAK P - my team doesn't have a punter so yes he should be here 49) Ricky Williams - MIA RB48) Brandon Jones - TEN WR47) J.J. Arrington - ARI RB46) Pete Kendall - WAS G45) Justin Miller - NYJ CB44) Kyle Boller - BAL QB43) Rex Grossman - CHI QB42) J.P. Losman - BUF QB41) Jim Kleinsasser - MIN TE/FB---40) Bobby Engram - SEA WR39) Nate Washington - PIT WR38) Devery Henderson - NO WR37) Phillip Buchanon - TB CB36) Brian Dawkins – PHI FS35) Tra Thomas - PHI LT34) Jon Runyan - PHI RT33) Kevin Carter - TB DE32) Shaun Cody - DET DT31) Angelo Crowell - BUF LB---30) Jeff Garcia - TB QB29) John Thornton - CIN DT28) Matt Birk - MIN C27) Mark Tauscher - GB RT26) Kerry Collins - TEN QB25) Mike Peterson - JAX LB24) Eric Barton - NYJ LB23) Darren Sproles - SD RB22) Derrick Ward - NYG RB21) Sean Jones - CLE SS---20) Mike Goff - SD G19) Bertrand Berry - ARI DE/LB18) Jonathan Vilma - NO LB17) Marc Colombo - DAL RT16) Stacy Andrews - CIN RT15) Vernon Carey - MIA RT14) Jonathan Babineaux - ATL DT13) Oshiomogho Atogwe - STL FS12) Karlos Dansby - ARI LB11) Brandon Jacobs - NYG RB---10) T.J. Houshmandzadeh - CIN WR9) Dunta Robinson - HOU CB8) Kurt Warner - ARI QB7) Matt Cassel - NE QB6) Ray Lewis - BAL LB5) Jordan Gross - CAR LT/RT4) Terrell Suggs - BAL DE/LB3) Julius Peppers - CAR DE2) Albert Haynesworth - TEN DT1) Nnamdi Asomugha - OAK CB - tough call over the defensive lineman but he's that good Not positive if all of these players are unrestricted, so homers chime in if any have resigned.Any players I have ranked way too high or way too low?

Whole heartedly agree with your top 6, I'd bump Atogwe and Sproles in there ahead of Housh and Cassel but keep Warner and Dunta intact.I would rather my team sign Bobby Engram to a 2 year deal that would be easy to get out of after one year than sign Housh to a big money, long term deal. There's not much different between the two in my eyes. That said Engram isn't close to a top 10 free agent in my eyes, I just don't think Housh is either.Similar logic applies to Garcia vs. Cassel and the Philly offensive tackles.Depending on where he ends up Sproles could be electric.

 

[trader jake]

What the heck, I'll play... Trader Jake's Top 50 2009 Free Agents 50) Shane Lechler - OAK P - my team doesn't have a punter so yes he should be here 49) Ricky Williams - MIA RB48) Brandon Jones - TEN WR47) J.J. Arrington - ARI RB46) Pete Kendall - WAS G45) Justin Miller - NYJ CB44) Kyle Boller - BAL QB43) Rex Grossman - CHI QB42) J.P. Losman - BUF QB41) Jim Kleinsasser - MIN TE/FB---40) Bobby Engram - SEA WR39) Nate Washington - PIT WR38) Devery Henderson - NO WR37) Phillip Buchanon - TB CB36) Brian Dawkins – PHI FS35) Tra Thomas - PHI LT34) Jon Runyan - PHI RT33) Kevin Carter - TB DE32) Shaun Cody - DET DT31) Angelo Crowell - BUF LB---30) Jeff Garcia - TB QB29) John Thornton - CIN DT28) Matt Birk - MIN C27) Mark Tauscher - GB RT26) Kerry Collins - TEN QB25) Mike Peterson - JAX LB24) Eric Barton - NYJ LB23) Darren Sproles - SD RB22) Derrick Ward - NYG RB21) Sean Jones - CLE SS---20) Mike Goff - SD G19) Bertrand Berry - ARI DE/LB18) Jonathan Vilma - NO LB17) Marc Colombo - DAL RT16) Stacy Andrews - CIN RT15) Vernon Carey - MIA RT14) Jonathan Babineaux - ATL DT13) Oshiomogho Atogwe - STL FS12) Karlos Dansby - ARI LB11) Brandon Jacobs - NYG RB---10) T.J. Houshmandzadeh - CIN WR9) Dunta Robinson - HOU CB8) Kurt Warner - ARI QB7) Matt Cassel - NE QB6) Ray Lewis - BAL LB5) Jordan Gross - CAR LT/RT4) Terrell Suggs - BAL DE/LB3) Julius Peppers - CAR DE2) Albert Haynesworth - TEN DT1) Nnamdi Asomugha - OAK CB - tough call over the defensive lineman but he's that good Not positive if all of these players are unrestricted, so homers chime in if any have resigned.Any players I have ranked way too high or way too low?

Great list.Did you intend to leave Dawan Landry and Bart Scott off?Also, I noticed Miles Austin and Jahri Evans are RFAs. I could see them drawing some attention.Others to consider: Jermaine Phillips, Marvel Smith, and Jason Brown.

Nice additions JWB. I didn't rank any RFA (that I know of) so Miles Austin, Jahri Evans, and Dawan Landry were not put on the list. Neither was NO WR Lance Moore who is another intriguing RFA. Where do you think Jermaine Phillips, Marvel Smith, and Jason Brown should be slotted?I just missed BAL LB Bart Scott entirely.I'd slot Scott at #12 just behind ARI LB Karlos Dansby. I suspect most would rather have Scott but Dansby had done it without a defensive line as effective as the one playing in front of Scott, he's a year younger, and offenses gameplan for him already...not as much for Scott with Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and Terrell Suggs to be accounted for. Basically, I just have more questions about Scott going into a new scheme than I would about Dansby.

JP Losman will be a hot commodity this summer. He could thrive in the right offense and someone will give him a shot.

I'm thinking the same thing Native. Going into the draft he was a love him or hate him type of prospect. On the field he showed enough to get another real shot elsewhere and I'm sure a GM out there who missed out on drafting him is salivating to bring him in and see if they can get something out of him. Looking at my list I'd probably now bump him up closer to Jeff Garcia at #30.

Haynesworth is a dangerous idiot. He is the type that might blow up at any minute or who might get lazy after getting a contract. In the end, though, I suspect he will stay motivated for another 5 years at least.

He's a real wildcard DW. Without any "issues" Haynesworth would be the unquestioned jewel of free agency (and he might be anyway). He is a beast that can stuff the run and collapse the pocket. Double teaming him is mandatory and he plays one of the most difficult positions to fill with quality depth. The only reason I have him listed #2 is because the risk that comes with him just can't be completely ignored.

Whole heartedly agree with your top 6, I'd bump Atogwe and Sproles in there ahead of Housh and Cassel but keep Warner and Dunta intact.I would rather my team sign Bobby Engram to a 2 year deal that would be easy to get out of after one year than sign Housh to a big money, long term deal. There's not much different between the two in my eyes. That said Engram isn't close to a top 10 free agent in my eyes, I just don't think Housh is either.Similar logic applies to Garcia vs. Cassel and the Philly offensive tackles.Depending on where he ends up Sproles could be electric.

Sproles has that burst but most GM's will find their own 3rd down back/special teams guy during the second day of the draft and be happy to spend the money they save elsewhere. I do believe Sproles is more of a player than that but he's also not a full-time guy so how much cash should a team be willing to spend to add him? That question is why I have him just behind Ward and the premier offensive lineman available.Engram is a player I'm weary of. I still think he can play but I'd rather spend my cash on Devery Henderson or Nate Washington and get more than a year out of them. Then again, if a team is looking to add a possession receiver on a 'win now' team I could see them having Engram ranked much, much higher than I do. Maybe to Arizona if they trade Boldin due to his contract demands??Housh is an interesting one. He's head and shoulders above the second best free agent wide receiver but I just can't get myself to say he's a #1 NFL wideout. He could be a perfect fit in Indianapolis if Marvin Harrison is on his way out or he could go back to the northwest and help get the Seahawks or 49ers offenses back on track.