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The Official 2011 Boston Red Sox Thread (1 Viewer)
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Limp Ditka
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The Flying Elvis
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Good news for everyone else in the A.L. East.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Agreed but it feels wrong to gloat about this one. I have too much respect for Tito and I hope this was more his choice than the teams at least. I think it was his demeanor as much as anything that helped captain the SS Impossible in 2004. Godspeed to a good man, never had anything but respect for him. The rest of that organization is easily hatable, right up to ownership and Theo but hard to hate Tito.
I honestly think he's underappreciated by the nation. I guess they forget quick what those 86 years felt like to throw away a guy who won like he did. He won't be easily replaced and this is indeed good news for the rest of us. But by the same token,'maybe he saw what torre went through after 2004 when the first shoe dropped and the media had exhibit A as to why he should be replaced.
Good luck Tito where the wheel takes you next.
Huge payroll but they had three guys in the rotation for most of the season that aren't major league starters anymore.They were rolling out Lackey, Wakefield, Bedard and Miller. Beckett and Lester didn't do squat in Sept. Lester underwhelmed all season actually.
The lack of support for Tito among Red Sox nation is just weak.
Green and Gold
Footballguy
Take it with a grain of salt, but the rumors I'm hearing is that Tito is asking the red sox to not pick up his option. Not the other way around.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Yeah I heard on the radio one of the starting pitchers was drinking a beer in the clubhouse on an off day and Tito was livid and he thinks the team chemistry is ####. Who was the pitcher? (gonna assume it was Lackey)
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Greco
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I never minded the Red Sox. Now I don't like them. I hope he doesn't take the White Sox job.'Greco said:### ####it... what a bunch of idiots.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I'm not sure White Sox 'Nation' would know what to do with a coach that actually has some class.I never minded the Red Sox. Now I don't like them. I hope he doesn't take the White Sox job.'Greco said:
Man In The Box
Footballguy
I could see Tito landing with the Cubs, maybe not next year, but eventually. Where do the Sox look for a manager? Torre?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I'll go with Beckett. He put on 60 lbs. in the past year.'shadyridr said:
Greco
Footballguy
Mut and Lou show on WEEI were bagging on him for gaining weight. They said most guys struggle to keep weight on during the long haul of the season and Beckett got so big he need new uniforms sizes.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Might want to check your facts.Plus you've got Lester who's divorcing his wife that's battling breast cancer.'shadyridr said:
Did you just make this up? Do you know anything about Lester's past?Plus you've got Lester who's divorcing his wife that's battling breast cancer.'shadyridr said:
AmosMoses
Footballguy
I'm sure he meant Lackey. Anyway, the only thing I know about Lester's past is that he was part of a Boston Red Sox team that choked away the 2011 season.Did you just make this up? Do you know anything about Lester's past?Plus you've got Lester who's divorcing his wife that's battling breast cancer.'shadyridr said:
HellToupee
Footballguy
dumb ###
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Walton Goggins
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Walton Goggins
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HellToupee
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
I'd agree on all acounts here'Daywalker said:
HellToupee
Footballguy
where is Boy Wonder's accountability???
Terry didn't bring in the overpaid players with character flaws.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The subtitle still kills me. GB Fin.
the moops
Footballguy
You folks really spend too much time worrying about the Red Sox
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Why shouldn't we? They are the best team in baseball.You folks really spend too much time worrying about the Red Sox
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Is there any team that has a bigger inferiority complex than the Red Sox? Good grief.You folks really spend too much time worrying about the Red Sox
Got to think their are talks about whether A. Gonzalez can play third. Bring in Pujols and mix/match with Youkilis at 1b/dh. Bye bye Big Papi. I know they must be happy they missed out on Arod but Pujols would be a shoot in the arm that the fanbase seems to need.
Money is no object when TV ratings determine the real champions.
Money is no object when TV ratings determine the real champions.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
What about SS?He's left-handed.
shadyridr
Footballguy
What about SS?
Premier
Footballguy
Actually, I don't think people are worried about them at all anymore.You folks really spend too much time worrying about the Red Sox
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Count me as one of the few that don't think the Sox are that dumb to let Francona walk.
I didn't think it was a big deal when the Yankees let Torre go and I don't think this will be either.
Francona's a great manager, but 8 years managing in BOS or NY is just probably enough.
I'm not sure how much managers even matter, but either way, it doesn't sound like Francona had the ability or desire to fix what was wrong with BOS this year (or next).
If you manage in BOS or NY and you start dropping the "I can't get good clubhouse chemistry with overpaid superstars" excuse, it's probably time to go (what else the hell are you there for?)
Not sure how he's some huge loss. Like the Yankees after Torre, in a few years, it won't really matter that they didn't try to keep him. They'll plug a fresh voice in, keep outspending everyone and probably win a WS within 2-3 years.
I didn't think it was a big deal when the Yankees let Torre go and I don't think this will be either.
Francona's a great manager, but 8 years managing in BOS or NY is just probably enough.
I'm not sure how much managers even matter, but either way, it doesn't sound like Francona had the ability or desire to fix what was wrong with BOS this year (or next).
If you manage in BOS or NY and you start dropping the "I can't get good clubhouse chemistry with overpaid superstars" excuse, it's probably time to go (what else the hell are you there for?)
Not sure how he's some huge loss. Like the Yankees after Torre, in a few years, it won't really matter that they didn't try to keep him. They'll plug a fresh voice in, keep outspending everyone and probably win a WS within 2-3 years.
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... says the guy who calls himself Dr. Awesome.Is there any team that has a bigger inferiority complex than the Red Sox? Good grief.You folks really spend too much time worrying about the Red Sox
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
That's just arrogance and lookatme shtick.... says the guy who calls himself Dr. Awesome.Is there any team that has a bigger inferiority complex than the Red Sox? Good grief.You folks really spend too much time worrying about the Red Sox
Red Sox fans get awfully loud when their team wins or makes a big move in the offseason. They seem to have no issues speaking up until the team goes into a slump and falls apart. Then they get really defensive when people start poking fun. It's bizarre.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Jason Varitek spent the final three minutes of his career rooting for the Yankees.
Balco
Footballguy
Has anyone heard who the bad seeds were in the clubhouse? The pitchers who were drinking on off days? (assuming they were starters).
Pathetic. And I am not sure who to blame, Theo or Tito. Did Francona try to discipline the players and was told not to? Did he allow it to go on?
Pathetic. And I am not sure who to blame, Theo or Tito. Did Francona try to discipline the players and was told not to? Did he allow it to go on?
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Source: Epstein 50/50 On Whether He'd Leave Red Sox For Another Team
Seems like a classic George Costanza "Upper Hand" maneuver to me. Act like you might leave.....make them want to keep you.
Seems like a classic George Costanza "Upper Hand" maneuver to me. Act like you might leave.....make them want to keep you.
the moops
Footballguy
I can't imagine them doing something like that.
