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The ***OFFICIAL*** 2019 Pittsburgh Steelers Thread (2 Viewers)

I am okay with it ticking, I just hope it hasn't stopped.   Ben has 40 million reasons to return and play out his contract but you just don't know how that elbow is going to hold up and whether or not he still has the desire after sitting out a year.  
I think he is definitely coming back and I'd guess he'll play good for at least two more years but he's had some dings so I imagine he will suffer a few dings over that time. 

Their is a window but Baltimore seems set to dominate for a long time with the center piece firmly in place at QB and they get a rookie contract to build up the supporting cast.

 
I think he is definitely coming back and I'd guess he'll play good for at least two more years but he's had some dings so I imagine he will suffer a few dings over that time. 

Their is a window but Baltimore seems set to dominate for a long time with the center piece firmly in place at QB and they get a rookie contract to build up the supporting cast.
If Ben comes back and can be effective for 1-2 seasons, they still need a legit #1 WR and a RB with a RB body... go get AJ Green and Kenyan Drake in a "win now" scenario.

I like Juju, but he's a second banana. I like Conner, but don't believe he can withstand 16+ games of punishment.

 
Ola injury worse than expected?

This has been a busy year for micro-transactions. 
Hope not, I was hoping he'd be able to develop this year assuming we can't resign Dupree. 

At this point in the season, what do you guys see as our draft needs? I don't think we get our QB of the future unless Tua falls to the late 2nd (which won't happen). I think OL, WR, RB, CB, OLB.

 
Hope not, I was hoping he'd be able to develop this year assuming we can't resign Dupree. 

At this point in the season, what do you guys see as our draft needs? I don't think we get our QB of the future unless Tua falls to the late 2nd (which won't happen). I think OL, WR, RB, CB, OLB.
Agree with the needs you identified.  I think WR, RB, OL are the biggest.  And unless Rudolph shows more in the next 6 weeks I am definitely looking in FA for backup QB.  I don't believe in Duck or Paxton.

 
Just saw that. So what is the current 53?  I cannot keep up!
Cain, Whyte, and Skipper are on the 53.   They have to be on the 53 for a minimum of three games because they were signed off other teams practice squads.

Pouncey will be moved to the reserve/suspended list opening a spot which I think will be filled by Patrick Morris from the practice squad.

 
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Agree with the needs you identified.  I think WR, RB, OL are the biggest.  And unless Rudolph shows more in the next 6 weeks I am definitely looking in FA for backup QB.  I don't believe in Duck or Paxton.
There's about zero chance he'd be into it unless Ben announced his retirement, but Teddy Bridgewater would look pretty good in our version of Black and Gold.

 
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There's about zero chance he'd be into it unless Ben announced his retirement, but Teddy Bridgewater would look pretty good in our version of Black and Gold.
What happens to the Steelers cap if Ben does decide to retire next year?  Anyone know?

 
Hope not, I was hoping he'd be able to develop this year assuming we can't resign Dupree. 

At this point in the season, what do you guys see as our draft needs? I don't think we get our QB of the future unless Tua falls to the late 2nd (which won't happen). I think OL, WR, RB, CB, OLB.
I'd be surprised if QB was even addressed this offseason. I think the solution will simply be healthy Roethlisberger. His contract pretty much prevents anything else. Rudolph will likely stick as the #2, as he's cheap, and has some more experience. Hopefully he performs a little better down the stretch.

I think standing pat at RB is probably the right call. Conner has been solid when healthy, and Samuels/Snell are capable backups. They've had some bad injury luck, but I can't see investing anything above a late pick there.

WR feels like a bigger need. JuJu hasn't looked like a true #1, and Washington and Johnson look more like role players. 

TE could be addressed. Vance McDonald just seems like a part time player, and was probably in his ideal role, when he was splitting snaps with James. 

OT seems fine to me. Villanueva is still solid, and Feiler looks like a keeper. The interior could use another body or two, Foster is starting to look his age, and Pouncey could use a better backup, and possible heir apparent. 

The front seven is mostly in good shape, though ED is likely a need. I would hope they would let Dupree walk, this feels like a classic contract year push. 

CB is fine in my eyes. I expect Justin Layne to take a big step forward next season. Wouldn't surprise me if he challenged for a starting job. CB could be a bigger need if they decide Haden is no longer worth his contract. 

While Minkah Fitzpatrick probably wasn't worth what they gave up to get him, he is a very solid safety. I'm a little worried about Edmunds. That is shaping up to look like the bad pick most thought it was. I'd prefer to give him another year, but competition couldn't hurt.

If I were ranking by priority, I'd go:

1. Edge 2. Wide Receiver 3. Tight End 4. Guard 5. Center 6. Safety

 
I'd be surprised if QB was even addressed this offseason. I think the solution will simply be healthy Roethlisberger. His contract pretty much prevents anything else. Rudolph will likely stick as the #2, as he's cheap, and has some more experience. Hopefully he performs a little better down the stretch.

I think standing pat at RB is probably the right call. Conner has been solid when healthy, and Samuels/Snell are capable backups. They've had some bad injury luck, but I can't see investing anything above a late pick there.

WR feels like a bigger need. JuJu hasn't looked like a true #1, and Washington and Johnson look more like role players

TE could be addressed. Vance McDonald just seems like a part time player, and was probably in his ideal role, when he was splitting snaps with James. 

OT seems fine to me. Villanueva is still solid, and Feiler looks like a keeper. The interior could use another body or two, Foster is starting to look his age, and Pouncey could use a better backup, and possible heir apparent. 

The front seven is mostly in good shape, though ED is likely a need. I would hope they would let Dupree walk, this feels like a classic contract year push. 

CB is fine in my eyes. I expect Justin Layne to take a big step forward next season. Wouldn't surprise me if he challenged for a starting job. CB could be a bigger need if they decide Haden is no longer worth his contract. 

While Minkah Fitzpatrick probably wasn't worth what they gave up to get him, he is a very solid safety. I'm a little worried about Edmunds. That is shaping up to look like the bad pick most thought it was. I'd prefer to give him another year, but competition couldn't hurt.

If I were ranking by priority, I'd go:

1. Edge 2. Wide Receiver 3. Tight End 4. Guard 5. Center 6. Safety
I agree that they should and probably will strengthen heir WR situation through the draft but Johnson looks like a potenial superstar to me, not a role player. He's so dynamic and skilled. He's already way ahead of schedule in terms of what I thought he'd do in his rookie year, and I think he's the perfect guy to have opposite JuJu. I'd argue he has more #1 potential than JuJu even. 

 
What’s your all’s opinions on Snell? Without Conner, they’ve been relying on Edmunds and Samuels, the latter of which has looked awful on the ground.

Think Snell steps into the lead role either this week or next?

 
It’s going to be ugly.  The only saving grace is that they are facing the Bengals on long rest.  Should still have a decent shot at a win (although definitely no guarantee as you stated).  Can only hope that some of the key players on offense get a little healthy in a couple weeks.  
I'll be that guy, I think this week is a gimme. I'd be willing to use the Steelers in a survivor pool. The Bengals have no offense, or defense, and don't want to win. This game could be a shutout. Something like 23-3 is very realistic, possibly/probably with a defensive score. 

I remember the team giving Brown the money instead of Wallace.  Maybe all along, they should have given it to that other receiver they had at the time.  Emmanuel Sanders.
What? However crappy the ending was, Antonio Brown had a 6 year stretch that was about as good as any WR in NFL history. 

 
What’s your all’s opinions on Snell? Without Conner, they’ve been relying on Edmunds and Samuels, the latter of which has looked awful on the ground.

Think Snell steps into the lead role either this week or next?
I think he will - the Steelers clearly don't trust Samuels much or have confidence in him running the ball. Edmunds is awful and Tomlin couldn't wait to get him in there with Conner out, even on third down at some point (that Tony Brooks-James guy or whoever he is even got a couple of touches). I imagine Snell will be taking a large share of the carries moving forward and Samuels will get maybe a handful (and nothing more unless he breaks one), in addition to a few dump offs. 

 
I think he will - the Steelers clearly don't trust Samuels much or have confidence in him running the ball. Edmunds is awful and Tomlin couldn't wait to get him in there with Conner out, even on third down at some point (that Tony Brooks-James guy or whoever he is even got a couple of touches). I imagine Snell will be taking a large share of the carries moving forward and Samuels will get maybe a handful (and nothing more unless he breaks one), in addition to a few dump offs. 
Who would you bet on in full PPR? 

 
Who would you bet on in full PPR? 
I have both and I am starting J. Samuels this week.  I think they could bring back the wildcat against Cincy (Samuels is the wildcat QB) and  Snell coming off the surgery may be given a smaller workload.  However, I do see the scenario where Snell could earn the majority of the carries while Conner is out but I don't think that starts this week.  The Steelers have a great strength of schedule for RBs from a fantasy POV down the stretch and they might lean on the running game and defense a bit more moving forward, so holding both for this week to see how it plays out makes sense.

 
How many SB's did he help the team win?
You are trolling right? You can't seriously be judging an individual player by SB wins right? Because if you are, you are basically saying the following careers were essentially failures:

Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Terrell Owens, Tony Gonzalez, Anthony Munoz, Bruce Matthews, Dermontti Dawson, Bruce Smith, Alan Page, Junior Seau, Champ Bailey, and Brian Dawkins. All, of those players are arguably in the top-5 all time at their respective positions, but don't have rings.

Meanwhile, a bunch of average, to below average players have multiple rings. Mike Wilson has 4, strictly from the good fortune of being drafted by the 49ers in the 80's. 

Point being, just because the Steelers didn't win a Super Bowl doing Brown's career there, doesn't mean he wasn't an all-time great player. Suggesting they'd have been better off without him, is asinine at best. 

 
You are trolling right? You can't seriously be judging an individual player by SB wins right? Because if you are, you are basically saying the following careers were essentially failures:

Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Terrell Owens, Tony Gonzalez, Anthony Munoz, Bruce Matthews, Dermontti Dawson, Bruce Smith, Alan Page, Junior Seau, Champ Bailey, and Brian Dawkins. All, of those players are arguably in the top-5 all time at their respective positions, but don't have rings.

Meanwhile, a bunch of average, to below average players have multiple rings. Mike Wilson has 4, strictly from the good fortune of being drafted by the 49ers in the 80's. 

Point being, just because the Steelers didn't win a Super Bowl doing Brown's career there, doesn't mean he wasn't an all-time great player. Suggesting they'd have been better off without him, is asinine at best. 
It was a tongue in cheek statement, but in hindsight, after all that has happened (or hasn't happened), would you like to have Sanders on this team right now?  No drama from Brown the past few years, which who knows how that would have affected the team/plays.  I dunno.  Makes you wonder.  Could be an argument either way.  Sanders hasn't been a slouch after he left the Steelers, that's for sure.

 
It was a tongue in cheek statement, but in hindsight, after all that has happened (or hasn't happened), would you like to have Sanders on this team right now?  No drama from Brown the past few years, which who knows how that would have affected the team/plays.  I dunno.  Makes you wonder.  Could be an argument either way.  Sanders hasn't been a slouch after he left the Steelers, that's for sure.
You can play the hindsight game all you want but it’s pointless IMO.  I prefer the normal, sane AB that we had for several years before any other receiver you listed.

 
It was a tongue in cheek statement, but in hindsight, after all that has happened (or hasn't happened), would you like to have Sanders on this team right now?  No drama from Brown the past few years, which who knows how that would have affected the team/plays.  I dunno.  Makes you wonder.  Could be an argument either way.  Sanders hasn't been a slouch after he left the Steelers, that's for sure.
They could have Brown's entire run, and had Sanders this season. He got traded to San Fran for peanuts, a deal Pittsburgh could have absolutely matched/beaten if they had wanted to.

 
They could have Brown's entire run, and had Sanders this season. He got traded to San Fran for peanuts, a deal Pittsburgh could have absolutely matched/beaten if they had wanted to.
I'm not arguing that, although the Steelers wouldn't have made the trade.  They wouldn't have even had a draft next year.

In any case, you are arguing against a tongue in cheek comment.  Bravo.

 
Steelers Active Roster - RB
James Conner - DNP
Trey Edmunds
Jaylen Samuels
Benny Snell Jr
Kerith Whyte

Steelers Active Roster - WR
Deon Cain
Johnny Holton
Diontae Johnson
Tevin Jones
JuJu Smith-Schuster - DNP
James Washington

So it looks like the lineup against the Bengals will be:

RB: Samuels, Snell, Edmunds and White

WR: Washington, Johnson (if active), Holton, Jones and Cain

Yikes!

 
I don’t know that Duck is any better, but Rudolph isn’t it. No pocket awareness and is always late on throws. 
There is no way he can be worse. This team will NOT win another game this year with the mannequin Rudolph. He is so beyond bad, and I don't know how a coach can look the defense in the face & explain why is in there.

 
There is no way he can be worse. This team will NOT win another game this year with the mannequin Rudolph. He is so beyond bad, and I don't know how a coach can look the defense in the face & explain why is in there.
How did we have a 1st round grade on him?  He looked great in pre-season, but man I wish we had Dobbs instead right now who can at least move. 

 
Just checked score for 1st time.  Something's telling me I'm glad I decided not to even try to watch this one.

Also just checked box score. Is it okay for us to be done with Rudolph yet?  Asking for a friend.

 
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