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**The Official College NFL Eligible RB Thread** (1 Viewer)

prymetyme25

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I dont get to watch alot of College Football Big 12 mostly only. SO I'd like to know about Running backs that I wouldnt be able to watch. We could Keep a season long Draft Watch.

Who are some of the guys that we should be watching?

 
Justin Forsett, Cal will put up some numbers this year. He's quite fast and has a few moves, although I don't see him really as being NFL material. He did put up 999 yards as a backup in 2005.

 
Yvenson Bernard - Oregon State He's a powerful runner.
I was thinking about this guy as I watched him run against Utah the other night. WOW was all I kept thinking, he hardly ever went down with out gaining yardage after first contact. I remember one play where I swore he was down, or should have been three times, but kept going. I know it was only one game, but it caught my eye.
 
Mike Hart--- 24car 188yrds 3tds in a loss to APPALACHAIN STATE!!!! :deadhorse:

The only highlight of him that they showed looked very good. I didnt get to watch him much last year though.

 
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Mike Hart--- 24car 188yrds 3tds in a loss to APPALACHAIN STATE!!!! :thumbup:The only highlight of him that they showed looked very good. I didnt get to watch him much last year though.
Mike Hart is an absolute STUD. He carried Michigan on his shoulders today when Henne and the defense played like frauds. Simply put he was a one man team, and this with his hammy acting up. If Hart is not starting on Sunday's next year, I will be 100% shocked. He has a low center of gravity and his balance is unreal. When most rbs go down, he lunges forward for 3 extra yards. He is the real deal.
 
Mike Hart--- 24car 188yrds 3tds in a loss to APPALACHAIN STATE!!!! :thumbup:The only highlight of him that they showed looked very good. I didnt get to watch him much last year though.
Mike Hart is an absolute STUD. He carried Michigan on his shoulders today when Henne and the defense played like frauds. Simply put he was a one man team, and this with his hammy acting up. If Hart is not starting on Sunday's next year, I will be 100% shocked. He has a low center of gravity and his balance is unreal. When most rbs go down, he lunges forward for 3 extra yards. He is the real deal.
Thanks for the insight. How are his hands? whats his biggest asset?
 
pryme, if you are a BIG 12er, keep an eye on the RBs at Tex A&M, Ok State, and OU. All three teams have two RBs to watch for the 2008 and 2009 drafts.

 
Mike Hart--- 24car 188yrds 3tds in a loss to APPALACHAIN STATE!!!! :shock:The only highlight of him that they showed looked very good. I didnt get to watch him much last year though.
Mike Hart is an absolute STUD. He carried Michigan on his shoulders today when Henne and the defense played like frauds. Simply put he was a one man team, and this with his hammy acting up. If Hart is not starting on Sunday's next year, I will be 100% shocked. He has a low center of gravity and his balance is unreal. When most rbs go down, he lunges forward for 3 extra yards. He is the real deal.
I agree with your depiction of his strong suit - balance and rubbing off contact, and his vision and decisiveness are also outstanding. On the other hand, he lacks an explosive burst or elusiveness, and he's not big enough to be a truly powerful runner at the next level. He seems like a 2nd/3rd round pick to me, not a lock to be a featured back in the NFL by any measure. He's going to have a lot of trouble standing out in the draft class if a lot of the juniors jump this year. He might not even be in the top 5 backs drafted.
 
pryme, if you are a BIG 12er, keep an eye on the RBs at Tex A&M, Ok State, and OU. All three teams have two RBs to watch for the 2008 and 2009 drafts.
I :shock: Mike Goodson (TAMU), and you were the first to turn me on to Dantrell Savage (Ok st) and DeMarco Murray (Ok)
 
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My list of A Tier draft eligible RBs:

Code:
Branden Ore	Virginia Tech	4JRDarren McFadden	Arkansas	3JRFelix Jones	Arkansas	3JRIan Johnson	Boise St	4JRJamaal Charles	Texas	3JRJames Davis	Clemson	3JRJonathan Stewart	Oregon	  3JRJustin Forsett	Cal	4SRMike Hart	Michigan	4SRRay Rice	Rutgers	3JRRyan Torain	Arizona St	4SRSteve Slaton	West Virginia	3JRTashard Choice	Georgia Tech	5SRYvenson Bernard	Oregon St	5SR
 
Talk about High School teams, Felix Jones and Robert Meachem were on the same high school team at Booker T Washington, Tulsa, OK. That school puts out athletes.

 
I've always been a Mike Hart hater and that hasn't changed. His game won't translate, IMO.

Ray Rice is my main man this year. He's somewhat undersized and he lacks elite home run speed, but this guy has game. He has the most NFL running style of any back that I've seen from this class. He runs low and has the shifty hips that you look for.

Keep an eye on Andre Brown from NC State as a draft sleeper. He's built like a tank and he has surprising mobility. He's the type of player who could be a surprise come April.

Jonathan Stewart isn't doing squat today. He might be a case of "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane." It will be interesting to see how his season plays out.

I'm on the fence about McFadden and Slaton right now. I haven't decided if they're worthy of their hype.

 
Mike Hart--- 24car 188yrds 3tds in a loss to APPALACHAIN STATE!!!! :thumbup:The only highlight of him that they showed looked very good. I didnt get to watch him much last year though.
Mike Hart is an absolute STUD. He carried Michigan on his shoulders today when Henne and the defense played like frauds. Simply put he was a one man team, and this with his hammy acting up. If Hart is not starting on Sunday's next year, I will be 100% shocked. He has a low center of gravity and his balance is unreal. When most rbs go down, he lunges forward for 3 extra yards. He is the real deal.
I agree with your depiction of his strong suit - balance and rubbing off contact, and his vision and decisiveness are also outstanding. On the other hand, he lacks an explosive burst or elusiveness, and he's not big enough to be a truly powerful runner at the next level. He seems like a 2nd/3rd round pick to me, not a lock to be a featured back in the NFL by any measure. He's going to have a lot of trouble standing out in the draft class if a lot of the juniors jump this year. He might not even be in the top 5 backs drafted.
Sigmund-I respect your opinions a great deal, so I wanted to ask: At this point in time, who are the top 5-10 college players those of us in dynasty leagues should be following this season? Who are next year's top dynasty picks?
 
My list of A Tier draft eligible RBs:

Code:
Branden Ore	Virginia Tech	4JRDarren McFadden	Arkansas	3JRFelix Jones	Arkansas	3JRIan Johnson	Boise St	4JRJamaal Charles	Texas	3JRJames Davis	Clemson	3JRJonathan Stewart	Oregon	  3JRJustin Forsett	Cal	4SRMike Hart	Michigan	4SRRay Rice	Rutgers	3JRRyan Torain	Arizona St	4SRSteve Slaton	West Virginia	3JRTashard Choice	Georgia Tech	5SRYvenson Bernard	Oregon St	5SR
Are these rankings? I don't think Ore, Bernard, and Choice are up to their press clippings. I'm between Bloom and EBF on Hart. I don't quite hate him, and I'll give him an outside shot because he has something special about him, but I doubt he's much of an NFL player... ever.
 
Mike Hart--- 24car 188yrds 3tds in a loss to APPALACHAIN STATE!!!! :kicksrock:The only highlight of him that they showed looked very good. I didnt get to watch him much last year though.
Mike Hart is an absolute STUD. He carried Michigan on his shoulders today when Henne and the defense played like frauds. Simply put he was a one man team, and this with his hammy acting up. If Hart is not starting on Sunday's next year, I will be 100% shocked. He has a low center of gravity and his balance is unreal. When most rbs go down, he lunges forward for 3 extra yards. He is the real deal.
I agree with your depiction of his strong suit - balance and rubbing off contact, and his vision and decisiveness are also outstanding. On the other hand, he lacks an explosive burst or elusiveness, and he's not big enough to be a truly powerful runner at the next level. He seems like a 2nd/3rd round pick to me, not a lock to be a featured back in the NFL by any measure. He's going to have a lot of trouble standing out in the draft class if a lot of the juniors jump this year. He might not even be in the top 5 backs drafted.
Sigmund-I respect your opinions a great deal, so I wanted to ask: At this point in time, who are the top 5-10 college players those of us in dynasty leagues should be following this season? Who are next year's top dynasty picks?
I see Slaton and McFadden as the clear class of next year's dynasty prospects. I assume both will make the jump. They don't match the physical profile of a typical marquee NFL RB, but we can see that good OCs know how to get players as dynamic as these two in situations that play to their strengths by moving them around and creating mismatches. Both of these guys have that "it" quality - they make transcendental plays with their jaw-dropping burst and creativity on the fly. Both are excellent receivers. I can't wait to see these guys in the NFL.Jonathan Stewart, on the other hand, has the proportions of an NFL workhorse, but still hasnt played at his optimal level, leaving me with some doubts. He's still a very valuable commodity because of the prototypical size/athleticism, vaguely resembling another RB that played in the Beaver State - Steven Jackson.Ray Rice is gaining on Stewart, and could pass him. I echo the sentiments that he just looks like a NFL RB. He's compact and efficient and definitely has a place at the next level. Hart is the best of the Senior RBs, but I dont think he has the ceiling of the four juniors above.
 
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My list of A Tier draft eligible RBs:

Code:
Branden Ore	Virginia Tech	4JRDarren McFadden	Arkansas	3JRFelix Jones	Arkansas	3JRIan Johnson	Boise St	4JRJamaal Charles	Texas	3JRJames Davis	Clemson	3JRJonathan Stewart	Oregon	  3JRJustin Forsett	Cal	4SRMike Hart	Michigan	4SRRay Rice	Rutgers	3JRRyan Torain	Arizona St	4SRSteve Slaton	West Virginia	3JRTashard Choice	Georgia Tech	5SRYvenson Bernard	Oregon St	5SR
Are these rankings? I don't think Ore, Bernard, and Choice are up to their press clippings. I'm between Bloom and EBF on Hart. I don't quite hate him, and I'll give him an outside shot because he has something special about him, but I doubt he's much of an NFL player... ever.
My top tier alphabetically. Disagree on Choice. Others may move down.
 
Mike Hart--- 24car 188yrds 3tds in a loss to APPALACHAIN STATE!!!! :shock:The only highlight of him that they showed looked very good. I didnt get to watch him much last year though.
Mike Hart is an absolute STUD. He carried Michigan on his shoulders today when Henne and the defense played like frauds. Simply put he was a one man team, and this with his hammy acting up. If Hart is not starting on Sunday's next year, I will be 100% shocked. He has a low center of gravity and his balance is unreal. When most rbs go down, he lunges forward for 3 extra yards. He is the real deal.
I agree with your depiction of his strong suit - balance and rubbing off contact, and his vision and decisiveness are also outstanding. On the other hand, he lacks an explosive burst or elusiveness, and he's not big enough to be a truly powerful runner at the next level. He seems like a 2nd/3rd round pick to me, not a lock to be a featured back in the NFL by any measure. He's going to have a lot of trouble standing out in the draft class if a lot of the juniors jump this year. He might not even be in the top 5 backs drafted.
Sigmund-I respect your opinions a great deal, so I wanted to ask: At this point in time, who are the top 5-10 college players those of us in dynasty leagues should be following this season? Who are next year's top dynasty picks?
I see Slaton and McFadden as the clear class of next year's dynasty prospects. I assume both will make the jump. They don't match the physical profile of a typical marquee NFL RB, but we can see that good OCs know how to get players as dynamic as these two in situations that play to their strengths by moving them around and creating mismatches. Both of these guys have that "it" quality - they make transcendental plays with their jaw-dropping burst and creativity on the fly. Both are excellent receivers. I can't wait to see these guys in the NFL.Jonathan Stewart, on the other hand, has the proportions of an NFL workhorse, but still hasnt played at his optimal level, leaving me with some doubts. He's still a very valuable commodity because of the prototypical size/athleticism, vaguely resembling another RB that played in the Beaver State - Steven Jackson.Ray Rice is gaining on Stewart, and could pass him. I echo the sentiments that he just looks like a NFL RB. He's compact and efficient and definitely has a place at the next level. Hart is the best of the Senior RBs, but I dont think he has the ceiling of the four juniors above.
:bowtie: :lmao: :lmao: Thanks Sigmund - I really appreciate you taking the time to answer.
 
Just watched PJ Hill. He's got the perfect RB body, 5-11 227 lbs, but...

I wasn't very impressed today. He got spun around a lot and ended up with his back turned on several runs. He didn't seem to bust many tackles, either...

Overall, his stat line was decent, but he dropped in my RB 2008 rankings today...

 
[Disagree on Choice. Others may move down.
He's piling up numbers today against Notre Dame, but I don't see any special qualities. Nice back for college, like Hart or Ore, but what about his game translates to the NFL level. I don't see it. I've watched about half the game today. He isn't real fast, quick, powerful, explosive. He does have one of the top five OLs in the country though.
 
Also, keep an eye on Marlon Lucky.

Nebraska force fed him the ball today...

He got 30 carries today and put up over 200 yards...

He also made 3 catches...

 
[Disagree on Choice. Others may move down.
He's piling up numbers today against Notre Dame, but I don't see any special qualities. Nice back for college, like Hart or Ore, but what about his game translates to the NFL level. I don't see it. I've watched about half the game today. He isn't real fast, quick, powerful, explosive. He does have one of the top five OLs in the country though.
Maybe, but didn't you say he would do nothing this year with Calvin gone? ;)
 
Mike Hart--- 24car 188yrds 3tds in a loss to APPALACHAIN STATE!!!! :brush:The only highlight of him that they showed looked very good. I didnt get to watch him much last year though.
Mike Hart is an absolute STUD. He carried Michigan on his shoulders today when Henne and the defense played like frauds. Simply put he was a one man team, and this with his hammy acting up. If Hart is not starting on Sunday's next year, I will be 100% shocked. He has a low center of gravity and his balance is unreal. When most rbs go down, he lunges forward for 3 extra yards. He is the real deal.
I agree with your depiction of his strong suit - balance and rubbing off contact, and his vision and decisiveness are also outstanding. On the other hand, he lacks an explosive burst or elusiveness, and he's not big enough to be a truly powerful runner at the next level. He seems like a 2nd/3rd round pick to me, not a lock to be a featured back in the NFL by any measure. He's going to have a lot of trouble standing out in the draft class if a lot of the juniors jump this year. He might not even be in the top 5 backs drafted.
Sigmund-I respect your opinions a great deal, so I wanted to ask: At this point in time, who are the top 5-10 college players those of us in dynasty leagues should be following this season? Who are next year's top dynasty picks?
Read our weekly column, The Ones 2 Watch. Sigmund and I break down the top 15 college players that are draft eligible each week!
 
Sure Jahvid Best is a true freshman (and doesn't fit in this thread), but that kid is pure lightning.

 
Darren McFadden 24 151 6.3 1 25

Darren McFadden 1/1 42 42.0 1 0 ETA passing #'s is this guy awesome or what?

Felix Jones 12 129 10.8 1 44

 
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Jeff Tefertiller said:
pryme, if you are a BIG 12er, keep an eye on the RBs at Tex A&M, Ok State, and OU. All three teams have two RBs to watch for the 2008 and 2009 drafts.
Only a redshirt Freshman playing the Mean Green of North Texas, but DeMarco Murray had 100 total yards and 4 TDs.
 
prymetyme25 said:
Steve Slaton 16 109 6.8 3 58 Patrick White 9 97 10.8 2 38 Noel Devine 7 44 6.3 1 23
Devine looked pretty good in debut, 7 carries 44 yards 1 TD, 1 rec for 19 yards, sitting behind Slaton he'll get some garbage time and maybe alittle more. Like to see what this kid can do at the college level being the "guy"
 
ConstruxBoy said:
Chaos Commish said:
ConstruxBoy said:
[Disagree on Choice. Others may move down.
He's piling up numbers today against Notre Dame, but I don't see any special qualities. Nice back for college, like Hart or Ore, but what about his game translates to the NFL level. I don't see it. I've watched about half the game today. He isn't real fast, quick, powerful, explosive. He does have one of the top five OLs in the country though.
Maybe, but didn't you say he would do nothing this year with Calvin gone? :shrug:
No, I didn't say any such thing. I said I had to see him with Calvin gone. I never made prediction about his production. :yes:His entire OL is back, Construx. I ask you, what about his game impresses you? Honest question. His moves, hands, power, speed, quickness, what? Because it's the lack thereof that convinces me this kind doesn't have NFL chops. It's early. I'm open minded, but I need to see some kind of pop and explosion to think he'll be better than, oh, Antonio Pittman or DeShawn Wynn.
 
ConstruxBoy said:
Chaos Commish said:
ConstruxBoy said:
[Disagree on Choice. Others may move down.
He's piling up numbers today against Notre Dame, but I don't see any special qualities. Nice back for college, like Hart or Ore, but what about his game translates to the NFL level. I don't see it. I've watched about half the game today. He isn't real fast, quick, powerful, explosive. He does have one of the top five OLs in the country though.
Maybe, but didn't you say he would do nothing this year with Calvin gone? ;)
No, I didn't say any such thing. I said I had to see him with Calvin gone. I never made prediction about his production. ;)His entire OL is back, Construx. I ask you, what about his game impresses you? Honest question. His moves, hands, power, speed, quickness, what? Because it's the lack thereof that convinces me this kind doesn't have NFL chops. It's early. I'm open minded, but I need to see some kind of pop and explosion to think he'll be better than, oh, Antonio Pittman or DeShawn Wynn.
I think Choice will put up very good numbers all year. He has good size and decent speed, I think his game will translate well to the NFL.
 
Houston Cougars

Anthony Alridge 23 207 9.0 1 60

Anthony Alridge 3 88 29.3 1 86 rec yds

5-9

175 lbs

Senior

I know Oregon's def sux but i think this shouldn't be overlooked.

Oregon

Dennis Dixon 15 141 9.4 1 80

 
strong said:
Just watched PJ Hill. He's got the perfect RB body, 5-11 227 lbs, but...I wasn't very impressed today. He got spun around a lot and ended up with his back turned on several runs. He didn't seem to bust many tackles, either... Overall, his stat line was decent, but he dropped in my RB 2008 rankings today...
He's a sophomore. I agree with your assessment though. A little more hype than substance right now, but he sure made some intriguing runs last year. Broke many tackles. Jury's out for a couple years.
 
Jamaal Charles 27 112 4.1 1 15
Greg Davis is really f'ing Jamaal Charles with that scheme. The zone blocking running game has no misdirection and the back gets the ball either standing almost still or going east/west.I was at the game tonight. It makes me want to puke.Also, those stats were all JC tonight. His (young) line played like dogsh*t tonight and he was met in the backfield more often than not, turning nothing or negative yardage into gains. He was one of very few bright spots on the night. That he put up 100 yards is amazing.If Texas plays like this next week against TCU, we'll lose.
 
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Also, keep an eye on Marlon Lucky.Nebraska force fed him the ball today...He got 30 carries today and put up over 200 yards... He also made 3 catches...
I've been pimping him since HS, unbelievable talent. I'm not backing down from my Faulk comparison.
 
strong said:
Also, keep an eye on Marlon Lucky.Nebraska force fed him the ball today...He got 30 carries today and put up over 200 yards... He also made 3 catches...
I've been pimping him since HS, unbelievable talent. I'm not backing down from my Faulk comparison.
I've never seen him play but I will make a note to catch a game when its shown in my area.
 
Darren McFadden is the top rookie prospect for next year.

Steve Slaton, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles, and Felix Jones, all underclassmen, are among the top RBs after that. Unless some sleepers really step up (Ryan Torain and Amir Pinnix?), the senior class looks thin. Tashard Choice is probably the top senior prospect. Mike Hart and Justin Forsett are great college backs, but probably in the JJ Arrington/Jerome Harrison category of guys who will face bias for their size and unlikely to go high or get the opportunity to be feature backs. Hart doesn't have the elite speed or add value as a returner to even project well as a third down back. Unless he is the rare breed who not only overcomes his measurables, but has the opportunity to do so, he will have a hard time finding a niche at the next level. Ray Rice is short too, but he has a thicker frame and the more skillful runner. Proving he can catch the ball and pick up the blitz this year goes a long way towards giving him feature back credentials.

 
I like Ian Johnson... a lot. His size may put him against the same bias, but he is very explosive, runs with good power, has hands, blocks like a truck, and just keeps making great plays.

 
ConstruxBoy said:
Chaos Commish said:
ConstruxBoy said:
[Disagree on Choice. Others may move down.
He's piling up numbers today against Notre Dame, but I don't see any special qualities. Nice back for college, like Hart or Ore, but what about his game translates to the NFL level. I don't see it. I've watched about half the game today. He isn't real fast, quick, powerful, explosive. He does have one of the top five OLs in the country though.
Maybe, but didn't you say he would do nothing this year with Calvin gone? :lmao:
No, I didn't say any such thing. I said I had to see him with Calvin gone. I never made prediction about his production. :lmao:His entire OL is back, Construx. I ask you, what about his game impresses you? Honest question. His moves, hands, power, speed, quickness, what? Because it's the lack thereof that convinces me this kind doesn't have NFL chops. It's early. I'm open minded, but I need to see some kind of pop and explosion to think he'll be better than, oh, Antonio Pittman or DeShawn Wynn.
LOL, just teasing you. I don't think he's special in any one area, but he's well rounded in all areas, IMO. Again, I'm not saying that he's a superstar in waiting. Just that if you're listing the top 10 or so draft eligible RBs, I think he's near the bottom of that list. He's not as fast as Pittman, but he has better moves. He's not as powerful as Wynn, but he has more speed and quickness. Again, not special, but solid. No guarantee of an NFL future though.
 
I like Ian Johnson... a lot. His size may put him against the same bias, but he is very explosive, runs with good power, has hands, blocks like a truck, and just keeps making great plays.
Surprised people don't like him more, guess they think he was a fluke last year. Hope he proves them wrong this year.
 

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