weasel3515
Footballguy
Is anyone else getting tired of seeing Barber come in and take ALL of the goalline action away from Julius Jones? As a Jones owner I contemplating trading him for what I can get as he looks pretty worthless.
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The official "I Hate Marion Barber" thread (1 Viewer)
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I like him. Nice kid.
wickster33
Footballguy
I'm tired of seeing JJ get the other carries. How long before Bill installs MBIII as the starter
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ceo3west
Footballguy
Barber as the goalline back is nothing new. If you recall, this is what happened last year as well. I drafted MB3 four rounds after JJ for this very reason.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
It certainly bothers me as a JJ owner. I'm not exactly clear on how Barber is more effective, either, considering he got stuffed repeatedly until finally gaining an inch to break the plane. Perhaps it is to save wear and tear on Jones, I don't know. But yes, it's very annoying.
The Shizzle
Footballguy
Barber deserves to be the feature back.
packersfan
Footballguy
I'm a Barber owner but I don't believe he should be starting ahead of Jones. I view Jones as easily the superior talent. Not even close really. Barber, though, has value given Jones' durability issues.
BigRed
Footballguy
I'm playing JJ. GB Barber.
phrozen
Footballguy
thanks for sharingI'm playing JJ. GB Barber.
LongDrivethenFoozle
Footballguy
JJ is and always will be the "softer" little brother....and TJ is not even close to Walter Payton tough. Julius was lucky to even be selected as early as he was and garner a good signing deal......Barber is a much better RB.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
Bankerguy
Footballguy
MB3 is not better than JJ.
BigFishBigTeeth
Footballguy
It is what it is... This is why you don't draft a guy like Barber as anything more than a mid-range RB2
It also shows Parcell's confidence in MBIII as a GL runner, running him four straight downs, including on fourth down.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
I dare you to start him every week.
What point are you trying to prove here? You sound like a bitter Jones owner.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Nope...knowledgable homer.
I don't have him so it really isn't an option. My point is that the writing is on the wall regarding Tuna's preferences for a GL back.
Utter Chaos
Footballguy
I wonder if Northern Colorado's backup punter does running backs?
Garts
Footballguy
What does Julius do effectively.....really??? He doesn't wear down a defence, he goes down on easy arm tackles and he barely breaks long runs. And he gets pulled at the stripe...
3 yards and a cloud of dust...and then youpray he gets up after getting hammered in the hole.
Other then all of that, I guess he's awesome.
3 yards and a cloud of dust...and then youpray he gets up after getting hammered in the hole.
Other then all of that, I guess he's awesome.
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Native
Footballguy
Hes very adept at fumbling.What does Julius do effectively.....really??? He doesn't wear down a defence, he goes down on easy arm tackles and he barely breaks long runs. And he gets pulled at the stripe...3 yards and a cloud of dust...and then youpray he gets up after getting hammered in the hole.Other then all of that, I guess he's awesome.
you drafted him knowing full well this could happen. deal with it.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Barber was in on any 3rd down or passing situation. He also had 4 tries at the endzone (inside the 5), stuffed on 3 and the 4th was called a TD though I thought he carried the ball at his waist and only his shoulder crossed the plane.
Barber was given a few series to himself. Barber caught the ball well, but his running left something to be desired.
His average may be high when you figure 4 of his 8 rushes were goalline runs. His other 4 counted as almost 10 yards a run. Kind of like Chris Perry in Cincinnati had inflated rushing on third and longs, Barber had the same. Easier to gain 8 yards on 3rd down when the defense is playing the pass 10 yards out. His "big run" of 15 yards was on a 3rd and 18.
If they needed a run, it was JJ; if they needed a pass, it was Barber. Barber was pass blocking nicely.
The very end of the game had Tyson Thompson in since the game was already decided.
Barber was given a few series to himself. Barber caught the ball well, but his running left something to be desired.
His average may be high when you figure 4 of his 8 rushes were goalline runs. His other 4 counted as almost 10 yards a run. Kind of like Chris Perry in Cincinnati had inflated rushing on third and longs, Barber had the same. Easier to gain 8 yards on 3rd down when the defense is playing the pass 10 yards out. His "big run" of 15 yards was on a 3rd and 18.
If they needed a run, it was JJ; if they needed a pass, it was Barber. Barber was pass blocking nicely.
The very end of the game had Tyson Thompson in since the game was already decided.
fsufan
Footballguy
why would he? JJ had 94 rushing yards last nigth and 111 total yards and a TD game 1
Browns Rule!
Footballguy
After watching the game last night, I would argue that Jones is the tougher, stronger runner.
Big Score
Footballguy
Goal Line runs tend to bring DOWN a RB's average. If you're at the 1 and it takes a few tries to get it in, your stat for that particular series will look pretty awful and bring down your overall avg ypc.Barber was beaten badly on one Bledsoe sack, but otherwise blocked Ok.
Cowboys#1
Footballguy
i never miss a 'boys game and a lot of you guys are flat out wrong.
barber is NOT the better runner in any sense of the word, he cant get the tough yards, trying to push everything outside.
if you see julius run he runs inside the tackles and does so well, hes not a shifty back but he can make people miss and has great open field moves.
barber is a good blocker which gives him the 3rd down carries but he has to run inside to get any chance of cutting into jones' carries.
barber is NOT the better runner in any sense of the word, he cant get the tough yards, trying to push everything outside.
if you see julius run he runs inside the tackles and does so well, hes not a shifty back but he can make people miss and has great open field moves.
barber is a good blocker which gives him the 3rd down carries but he has to run inside to get any chance of cutting into jones' carries.
packersfan
Footballguy
I agree. I think he's looked real good in both games so far and keep in mind he's faced two pretty good defenses. The fumble last night wasn't good but I think he's running extremely well so far. He has more power, burst and speed than Barber. I can't think of a single thing other than receiving that Barber does better. And again, I'm a Barber owner. Jones is by far the best RB on the Dallas roster in my opinion.
wickster33
Footballguy
I'll admit I'm a Barber owner, but he is my RB5, so I don't think I'm biased. I've been following Parcells since his Giants days, and he has always gathered certain types around him. MB3 is one of those types. Hard runner, totally fearless. Sooner or later, the Tuna will make him the starter.
packersfan
Footballguy
Barber is my RB5 as well and I'd love to see him become the starter. But honestly, the only way I see that happening is if Jones gets hurt -- which obviously could happen given Jones' history of injuries. But I don't see Jones losing the starting job if both are healthy. Barber simply isn't as good of a RB and I'm really surprised to hear people argue that he is. I don't think it's really close in terms of talent. Jones is clearly, in my opinion, the more gifted RB.
dwashington
Footballguy
I already know the rushing attempts and receptions, but I'm curious to know the snap breakdown between JJ and MB3? Who was on the field for the most plays?
Riffraff
Footballguy
Reading comprehension 101: read the whole paragraph.
I didn't count the 4 carries inside the 5 yardline for the average.
