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Swing 51 said:
To me the Bills loss should have been #1. I'm a much bigger NFL fan than NBA though. I was at that Bills game, and talk about emotional swings. Without a doubt the most miserable game I've ever attended in any sport. Was a cold, rainy ####ty day too.
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Still remember that game. The emotions were so nuts the whole time. Thinking we were going to win. Bills line up for a long FG and a time out to ice the kicker. Then another. Penalty and now it's a chip shot for the win. I don't think I've heard FedEx that silent after a game before. Such a whirlwind of emotions and a weird way to lose it.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
This times 8 bazillion. The FF loss is the most heartbreaking L of my +/- 50 years of fandom in any sport. They'd have won the NC that year, too.
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The list was about crazy hard to believe losses, not heartbreaking ones. It's not like that 2007 Nats team was really going places if Nook Logan hadn't made that baserunning blunder. 

 
Apple Jack said:
Losses when up 10 with a minute left and up 22 in the second half are pretty hard to believe.
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Yeah but that's just a standard issue blown lead. That happens all the time. These are all nutty WTF type incidents.  The Michael Ruffin game is the model for this sort of thing.

Also the list was about crazy stuff happening to DC sports teams.  I'd say the majority of DC sports fans either don't care about the Terps or root against them (UVa and to a lesser extent other ACC alums in the area, Georgetown, and now all the Big Ten alums too).

 
That wasn't a standard issue blown lead. That was freakish. I probably mis-categorized it as "heartbreaking" for the purposes of that article (though it was that, too).

Also, VT has a much bigger following in DC than UVA does. You can't swing a dead cat around the Beltway without hitting someone with a PE degree from VPI.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
That wasn't a standard issue blown lead. That was freakish. I probably mis-categorized it as "heartbreaking" for the purposes of that article (though it was that, too).

Also, VT has a much bigger following in DC than UVA does. You can't swing a dead cat around the Beltway without hitting someone with a PE degree from VPI.
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Go Hokies!  (2 alums, 1 current student  in family)

 
VA703 said:
Mr. Ected said:
Does anyone in the Loudoun area of NoVA know when the new Lowes is supposed to open?
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I honestly thought it was supposed to be a walmart, no idea . they havnt even started the parking lot, assuming late this year early next year
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The Wal-Mart is supposed to go in south of the Leesburg Airport, down by the Greenway, I don't think they have broken ground on that yet.

Driving by this weekend, it looked a little further along. I thought the parking lot looked like it had been started. The rest looks almost done. I thought I had seen notices that it was supposed to be done late spring, but I know construction completion estimates are about as accurate as weather forecasting!!!

We drove by twice running to the Lowes in Sterling this weekend. I'd like to avoid doing that!!

 
Mr. Ected said:
The Wal-Mart is supposed to go in south of the Leesburg Airport, down by the Greenway, I don't think they have broken ground on that yet.

Driving by this weekend, it looked a little further along. I thought the parking lot looked like it had been started. The rest looks almost done. I thought I had seen notices that it was supposed to be done late spring, but I know construction completion estimates are about as accurate as weather forecasting!!!

We drove by twice running to the Lowes in Sterling this weekend. I'd like to avoid doing that!!
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you know there's a home depot in leesburg

 
VA703 said:
you know there's a home depot in leesburg
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Yeah, but we were originally going to the WalMart in Sterling (my wife refuses to go to the one in Leesburg) and ended up going to the Lowes looking for paint. Liked something there and had to go back for samples. At least it was a horrible weekend, weather-wise so it wasn't too bad.

 
anyone familiar with vintage 50 in leesburg? they are putting a new brewery there my cousin is the head chef. should open on the 17th

brewmaster is the original from vintage 50

 
VA703 said:
anyone familiar with vintage 50 in leesburg? they are putting a new brewery there my cousin is the head chef. should open on the 17th

brewmaster is the original from vintage 50
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Went there a long time ago. Noticed that it's been empty for a while. That's a great spot, with the office building and being close to Rt. 7. I live about a mile from there.

 
Anyone hear anything about the fire at Tysons Corner today? Saw something about the fact that it was near the Barnes and Noble, where there are lots of restaurants, so a fire is not to far out of the question.

 
Swing 51 said:
HEAT DOME OMG WE'RE GONNA DIE!!!!!!
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Lol it was so funny. Earlier in the week, I don't think I saw the news showing anything but 100+ degree weather this weekend. Now that it's basically the weekend, the temps have somehow dropped about 5 degrees for the weekend. Gotta stir up drama somehow.

 
I've just accepted a job at the Navy Yard.  We'll probably be moving in September.  We're looking at living between McLean and Vienna for the schools.  How's the ride into town on the Orange and Silver lines?

 
DaVinci said:
I've just accepted a job at the Navy Yard.  We'll probably be moving in September.  We're looking at living between McLean and Vienna for the schools.  How's the ride into town on the Orange and Silver lines?
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There are apps for phones and the WMATA (metro) web site that will give you times/costs for rides. Right now there are some huge reconstruction/repair projects going on. (http://www.nbcwashington.com/traffic/transit/381818531.html) Keep an eye on this as you get closer to see about timing.

I think Vienna metro (last on Orange line) will take 1:00 to 1:15. Tysons Corner on the Silver line is roughly the same. Metro isn't cheap, $5.40 each way from Tysons, $5.90 from Vienna during rush hour, but driving into the city during rush hour is a nitemare.

others will have better info on experiences, since I don't commute. 

HTH, and an early welcome to DC!

 
Commuting from the beltway and in isn't nearly the horror show it is for those a little further out.

Bike to work > other commutes

 
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Apple Jack said:
Commuting from the beltway and in isn't nearly the horror show it is for those a little further out.

Bike to work > other commutes
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I live a mile and a half from work now.  I'm not looking forward to the commute.  If I didn't have to worry about the schools we'd be looking much closer.

 
Yeah, that may a bit of a shock if you're looking Vienna  :lol:

You'll get some good responses here, though, on what you're looking at from a commute standpoint. 

May I ask what you do? Do you like chili dogs? Vienna Inn has some that will clog every artery in your body.

 
Contractor or government employee? If government, your metro ride will be subsidized which is nice. 

Commute time will depend on how far away you live from the metro station. The train ride itself from Vienna or McLean to Navy Yard will be 40-45 minutes and includes a transfer. Dunn Loring and West Falls Church metro stations could cut a few minutes off the commute. Probably a 5-10 minute walk from metro to Navy Yard entrance. So if you can get from home to a train in 10 minutes, you'll have an hour commute. 

North Arlington has good schools, too, and a better commute, but is more expensive real estate than McLean and Vienna. Same for East Falls Church. Cheaper real estate with good schools and a similar commute would be West Springfield and Burke. A VRE commute from the Rolling Road station would probably be similar to Vienna or McLean in total time. 

It is several years away, but VA is going to build toll lanes on I-66 with express bus service into DC and the Pentagon. I think it can potentially be a game changer for commuting out west. Even as far out as Gainesville will be about a 35 minute bus ride to the Pentagon. Fairfax will probably be about 20-25 minutes. Of course, that would then require transfers to Metro at the Pentagon to complete the commute. Speaking of which, the Burke/Springfield area already has express bus service to the Pentagon.

 
I'll be a government employee doing program management for MILCON construction with NAVFAC.  I read about the subsidy.  It looks like it would cover my entire cost for the Metro or VRE.  :thumbup:

We've looked at West Springfield and Burke too (even as far south as Lorton).  The rents seem similar to what we're looking at in Vienna, at least for places close to a station.  I'm willing to pay a little more rent if we can avoid having to buy a second car.

 
DaVinci said:
I'll be a government employee doing program management for MILCON construction with NAVFAC.  I read about the subsidy.  It looks like it would cover my entire cost for the Metro or VRE.  :thumbup:

We've looked at West Springfield and Burke too (even as far south as Lorton).  The rents seem similar to what we're looking at in Vienna, at least for places close to a station.  I'm willing to pay a little more rent if we can avoid having to buy a second car.
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I live less than a mile from the Burke VRE station. There are also express buses to the Pentagon that stop at the VRE station and a block from my house. For commuting into DC, I can't think of a place I'd rather be.

 
DaVinci said:
I'll be a government employee doing program management for MILCON construction with NAVFAC.  I read about the subsidy.  It looks like it would cover my entire cost for the Metro or VRE.  :thumbup:

We've looked at West Springfield and Burke too (even as far south as Lorton).  The rents seem similar to what we're looking at in Vienna, at least for places close to a station.  I'm willing to pay a little more rent if we can avoid having to buy a second car.
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We went two years in western Fairfax County with just one car. It was a bit annoying at times, but we made it work. Conflicting family/kids activities caused most of the problems and a few times we had to ask family to help transport someone somewhere. We didn't like doing that. Where I live, we don't have decent non-commuting bus service. Midday buses are limited in their reach and only run once an hour. We had no weekend bus service by my house (we do now, but at similar frequencies as the midday service). I can easily walk to a couple shopping centers and bike to a few more places, so that works out ok for some basic needs.

The most annoying part of having just one car was friends and neighbors constantly commenting how insane we were for only having one car. Some even made comments about how we're putting our kids in danger with only one car. Some weird people.

Anyway, while we made it work for a couple years, my commute is just too long using public transportation so we went back to a second car after a couple years. Those two years were financially very comfortable, though. It was really nice from that standpoint. When we purchased our house, I didn't pay attention to bus service at all. I definitely will for my next move just to keep that option open.

Here's a big, ugly NoVa bus map. It hasn't been updated with some of the Fairfax Connector routes that I know have changed this Summer, but should give you an idea of what areas have good bus service.

If you can live within walking distance of a Metrorail station, that should make one-car living very doable.

 
You know what I find is REALLY helping my commute lately?  Using google maps nav.  I know how to get from A to B anywhere around here, but it's gotten decent at knowing congestion now, and it is saving me anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes every day.  I'm going back and forth between Kensington MD, Courthouse Arlington, and the Pentagon.  Maps will send me pretty wide to avoid stuff even. 

 
Took my boys on a DC bike ride over the weekend for the first time. Parked at Gravelly Point, crossed the 14th Street Bridge to the Jefferson Memorial, headed by the Washington Monument, around the White House, and then back to Gravelly Point. About 8 miles round trip. Great weather. I think they actually enjoyed it. 

My oldest son suggested maybe parking at Gravelly Point and biking to the zoo. Looks like it's only 7 miles and should be a pretty flat ride along the Potomac and Rock Creek so definitely doable. Looks like the zoo has bike racks so that could be a fun ride on a nice day, check out some animals, and then head back.

Any other ideas of some good biking with kids? They'd be interested in biking if there some neat things to look at along the way or an interesting destination. Something like the W&OD Trail would probably bore them, unless I'm not just not aware of a stretch that might be interesting to a kid. I'm thinking biking across the Woodrow Wilson Bridge between Old Town and National Harbor could be fun. But, looks like the paved trail ends short of National Harbor and there's some kind of rocky or sandy path?

 
dgreen said:
Took my boys on a DC bike ride over the weekend for the first time. Parked at Gravelly Point, crossed the 14th Street Bridge to the Jefferson Memorial, headed by the Washington Monument, around the White House, and then back to Gravelly Point. About 8 miles round trip. Great weather. I think they actually enjoyed it. 

My oldest son suggested maybe parking at Gravelly Point and biking to the zoo. Looks like it's only 7 miles and should be a pretty flat ride along the Potomac and Rock Creek so definitely doable. Looks like the zoo has bike racks so that could be a fun ride on a nice day, check out some animals, and then head back.

Any other ideas of some good biking with kids? They'd be interested in biking if there some neat things to look at along the way or an interesting destination. Something like the W&OD Trail would probably bore them, unless I'm not just not aware of a stretch that might be interesting to a kid. I'm thinking biking across the Woodrow Wilson Bridge between Old Town and National Harbor could be fun. But, looks like the paved trail ends short of National Harbor and there's some kind of rocky or sandy path?
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Agree that W&OD is kind of boring.  Never done National Harbor.  I like the Mount Vernon Trail in general.  While I mostly just bike from my home over to Gravelly, a couple of places that I like to park and ride from are Belle Haven Marina and Fort Hunt.  The marsh by the marina could be fun to bike through.  And I go from Fort Hunt to Mount Vernon and back.  ETA: Those sections get a bit less foot traffic, so not as many joggers to navigate through.

 
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Don Quixote said:
Agree that W&OD is kind of boring.  Never done National Harbor.  I like the Mount Vernon Trail in general.  While I mostly just bike from my home over to Gravelly, a couple of places that I like to park and ride from are Belle Haven Marina and Fort Hunt.  The marsh by the marina could be fun to bike through.  And I go from Fort Hunt to Mount Vernon and back.  ETA: Those sections get a bit less foot traffic, so not as many joggers to navigate through.
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I did Belle Haven to Fort Hunt on my own about a month ago and thought it might be something they would enjoy. The marsh and boardwalk were interesting and agree it was nice that it was less crowded than up near DC.

 
dgreen said:
I did Belle Haven to Fort Hunt on my own about a month ago and thought it might be something they would enjoy. The marsh and boardwalk were interesting and agree it was nice that it was less crowded than up near DC.
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The birds there are usually kind of interesting too.  But kids these days may be more interested in fake birds on their phones.

 
dgreen said:
I did Belle Haven to Fort Hunt on my own about a month ago and thought it might be something they would enjoy. The marsh and boardwalk were interesting and agree it was nice that it was less crowded than up near DC.
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W&OD is also hilly -- especially from Roosevelt Island to Ballston.  Would be a tough ride for a kid.

Biking from the airport to Roosevelt Island and spending some time there is good with kids too.  There's a boardwalk around the marsh in the center of the island -- pretty much always going to see some cool critters.  Plus the big plaza/TR statue.

 
W&OD is lame for anything other than exercise, imo. Pretty much all of it with the exception of a few miles out at the end near Purcellville. The Mt Vernon Trail is awesome in every way, with the exception of the occasional giro wannabe and some rush hour volume between 14th St Bridge and Four Mile. Otherwise, it's fantastic all the way down. My favorites are Rock Creek on the the weekends and the towpath up to Great Falls. I don't bother with the Arlington Loop anymore as it's boring and congested. I just ride down the hill and take the Towpath up to GF. So easy and peaceful. Very few people north of Fletcher's. But the RCP on weekends is the one. Especially if it's hot, as the park is much cooler than town and even more so once you get north of the zoo. Such a great ride up to the railroad trestle. Or you can just loop around there and come back down the Capital Crescent, but that trail is a #### show of people between Bethesda and Dalecarlia.

 
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