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The ***OFFICIAL*** Washington, DC thread (2 Viewers)

Orso originally had a relationship, of sorts, to 2 Amy's:

2 Amy's is owned by Peter Pastan, who I consider to be one of the best Chefs in the greater DC/Metro area, easily in my Top 5 in DC. I consider his primary restaurant, Obelisk, to be the one place I'd choose to dine inside DC if I only had one choice. We are aquainted, and I consider him somewhat of a mentor, but he's a very...unique...individual, so we don't have a mentor-mentee relationship in the typical sense. It takes longer than I have now to explain, but maybe someday. If Obelisk had a website, I'd post it here...but they don't. Yes, he is indeed unique. When I have time to post a menu, I will, so you all can see what he's doing. Dinner only, Tuesday-Saturday - he writes a menu daily, and in the afternoon, nails it to a post outside the restaurant, located in a brownstone-type just off Dupont Circle, 20th & P St., NW. Fixed Price menu with optional pairings, Assorted antipasti, choice from 3 primi, 3 secondi, a cheese course, 3 desserts, other assorted treats, averages around $75/person. Optional Wine pairings for about $50 more. Food is special, and absolutely worth it. Everything sourced with utmost care. Prepared simply, but technically precise. Sublime. I try to go once each season, and I draw a ton of inspiration for my own menus from what he does with food. Guy is a genius. Eccentric, eccentric genius...

...anyway, 2 Amy's rose to prominence thanks to Chef Pastan's vision, and the pizza-making skills of one Edan McQuaid. I speak in hyperbole, but he's one of the finest pizzaolos ever to work in the DC/Metro area. Edan is very much a maven - very dedicated to his craft. Peter's vision for 2 Amy's began to broaden, and that started to clash with Edan's philosophy, so Edan left, and bounced around the area helping a lot of Neapolitan-style places get started, but never laying down feet anywhere for very long, until he got the opportunity to do his own thing in Falls Church, Va, which was Orso. Again, Edan is very passsionate and dedicated to his craft - a maven. He recreated the 2 Amy's idea the way, in his mind, it was 'supposed' to be. He started getting stifled again - I think it's just the way he is, and left - Brian Voltaggio of Top Chef fame hired him and he was instrumental in getting Voltaggio's Range in Chevy Chase Pavillion going. Edan is now somewhere in the Atlantic Northeast, presumably doing his own thing the way he wants to do it. I haven't talked with him in over 2 years. Whatever he's doing, I'm sure it's hard core and excellent.

...but Orso tabbed a stellar replacement. Will Artley is a very talented Chef, and is also a VPN-certified pizzaolo, but his scope is much broader than Edan's. Orso is a very cool place to check out in Falls Church, like 2 Amy's it's a lot more than pizza...and not too far from Taco Bamba, which is nice! Kid friendly, too.
I'm guessing you're a chef? Where? I'll give you some patronage.

 
Got the trip mostly(?) planned out now.

We're staying at The Liaison Capitol Hill (through hotwire) from Fri until Tue.

Flying into BWI Friday at 5:15pm. MARC Train (Penn line) from there to Union Station. I think?

Walk around and see stuff Saturday. Probably Air and Space museum and Capitol at least. Take M(?) to Nationals Park for the 7pm game.

Take MARC train (Camden line) to 1:30 Orioles game. Anything we should see in Baltimore before or after the game?

All day Monday free to tour DC. Probably Natural History, memorials, White House. Likely no time for Mt Vernon.

At some point Tuesday we need to get to Philadelphia via Amtrak. Planning to rent a car when we arrive at 30th St Station. We are staying at the Holiday Inn near the stadium. Phillies game is at 7.

Flight home out of PHL is at 7:30 Wednesday, so we should have time to see a few things (Independence Hall, Liberty Bell) if we don't have time Tuesday. I'm not sure there's a whole lot else we need to see in Philly, so I may leave Tuesday morning for DC and book an afternoon train. Undecided there. Thoughts?
Just an FYI, but the dinosaur exhibit in Natural History is now closed for several years. So, you'll likely be through that one pretty quick. If you've got a daughter, the Hope Diamond and jewelry exhibit might be a big hit still.

 
(HULK) - given where you live (Frankly...Pizza and the MARC Station Farmer's Mkt within walking distance)...are you at all familiar with Sub*Urban Trading Company?

http://suburbantrading.com/

My good friends Andre Cavallero and his Mom, Allison's place in the Johnson's Garden Center development just past the Post Office.
My neighbor's were telling me about it just this week. I've never eaten there. Its on our list to check out soon though.

 
Why not just rent the car in DC and drive to Philly, especially if you're going back there at the end? Seems like it would be easier and cheaper, and wouldn't really take any longer.

Metro to the Nats game is really easy, that's no problem.
Going back to DC in the end? We're not. Flying out of Philly.

There is some appeal to the train in and of itself, because my son hasn't been on a train before. He's excited about that. Subway too. He has only ridden the above ground rail system here in Dallas.

See you at the game Saturday?
The Amtrak experience will be similar to the MARC experience, but longer and a bit more leg room. I guess there's also the added bonus of there being a cafe car on Amtrak.

Looks like there are still several time options for $102 for two adults (not sure how old your son is; if young enough, his ticket will be half price) from DC to Philly next Tuesday. I'd suggest going ahead and picking a time and buying tickets so you can lock in that price and you aren't stuck with paying more or traveling at a bad time.

 
Got the trip mostly(?) planned out now.

We're staying at The Liaison Capitol Hill (through hotwire) from Fri until Tue.

Flying into BWI Friday at 5:15pm. MARC Train (Penn line) from there to Union Station. I think?

Walk around and see stuff Saturday. Probably Air and Space museum and Capitol at least. Take M(?) to Nationals Park for the 7pm game.

Take MARC train (Camden line) to 1:30 Orioles game. Anything we should see in Baltimore before or after the game?

All day Monday free to tour DC. Probably Natural History, memorials, White House. Likely no time for Mt Vernon.

At some point Tuesday we need to get to Philadelphia via Amtrak. Planning to rent a car when we arrive at 30th St Station. We are staying at the Holiday Inn near the stadium. Phillies game is at 7.

Flight home out of PHL is at 7:30 Wednesday, so we should have time to see a few things (Independence Hall, Liberty Bell) if we don't have time Tuesday. I'm not sure there's a whole lot else we need to see in Philly, so I may leave Tuesday morning for DC and book an afternoon train. Undecided there. Thoughts?
On Baltimore, the Inner Harbor is nearby. You can walk down there and see the ships. Probably not enough time for you to go to the Aquarium though. There's also a Babe Ruth museum near Camden Yards.

In Philly, those are the prime stops. You can walk around the historic area a bit. There's also Betsy Ross's house, and some museums in that area (there's a Constitution Center, but it's kind of pricy). About 20 miles out of town is Valley Forge, it's doable since you have a car, but not sure if it's worth it for you.

For DC, if you have time for more museums, I'd recommend trying to fit in the National Archives to see the Declaration and the Constitution. The National Portrait Gallery is another good museum that is free (they have an exhibit with the official portraits of the Presidents, and some other good exhibits--I was just back there a couple of weeks ago to see a bunch of special civil war exhibits that they have going on). The Newseum is awesome, but not free.

 
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Got the trip mostly(?) planned out now.

We're staying at The Liaison Capitol Hill (through hotwire) from Fri until Tue.

Flying into BWI Friday at 5:15pm. MARC Train (Penn line) from there to Union Station. I think?

Walk around and see stuff Saturday. Probably Air and Space museum and Capitol at least. Take M(?) to Nationals Park for the 7pm game.

Take MARC train (Camden line) to 1:30 Orioles game. Anything we should see in Baltimore before or after the game?

All day Monday free to tour DC. Probably Natural History, memorials, White House. Likely no time for Mt Vernon.

At some point Tuesday we need to get to Philadelphia via Amtrak. Planning to rent a car when we arrive at 30th St Station. We are staying at the Holiday Inn near the stadium. Phillies game is at 7.

Flight home out of PHL is at 7:30 Wednesday, so we should have time to see a few things (Independence Hall, Liberty Bell) if we don't have time Tuesday. I'm not sure there's a whole lot else we need to see in Philly, so I may leave Tuesday morning for DC and book an afternoon train. Undecided there. Thoughts?
On Baltimore, the Inner Harbor is nearby. You can walk down there and see the ships. Probably not enough time for you to go to the Aquarium though. There's also a Babe Ruth museum near Camden Yards.

For DC, if you have time for more museums, I'd recommend trying to fit in the National Archives to see the Declaration and the Constitution. The National Portrait Gallery is another good museum that is free (they have an exhibit with the official portraits of the Presidents, and some other good exhibits--I was just back there a couple of weeks ago to see a bunch of special civil war exhibits that they have going on). The Newseum is awesome, but not free.
National Aquarium in Baltimore is a little overrated. It's good, but extremely crowded and pretty expensive. Maryland Science Center is much closer to the ballpark, cheaper, and great for kids 10 or 11 and under. It's not a can't miss, though. Babe Ruth Museum is frankly a little boring.

Do you like seafood? You could walk to the Cross Street Market in Federal Hill, and get pre-game lunch (and beer) at the Nick's Seafood counter. Might also be worth a walk to the park atop Federal Hill - there's a playground there and incredible views of the downtown. And the Science Center is at the foot of the hill - Cross Street, Federal Hill and the Science Center are all walkable from Camden Yards. So is the Inner Harbor - nice to walk around, but the pavilions there are just tourist traps.

National Archives tip - if you plan to go, go to the website and get tickets for timed entry. I think they cost $2. It's the DC equivalent of a Disney fast pass and well worth doing. It's very cool to see the Declaration of Independence, but the line can get very long. By reserving your timed entry, you'll skip the big line outside.

 
You know, for those traveling to DC, because the Silver Line is now open, you can now take the Metro out to Tyson's Corner. Because that is the most important part of the DC area. ;)

BTW Has anyone taken the Silver Line yet? Was thinking of going into the Zoo this weekend and taking the Metro.

 
I'd also suggest popping into the Library of Congress. Awesome building on the inside.

Can you just walk in the Supreme Court? Not sure if I've ever been in there. But, if you're lucky, when you are going to the Library, maybe there will be a protest/rally outside the Supreme Court. Can't miss out on a good protest while in DC.

 
I'd also suggest popping into the Library of Congress. Awesome building on the inside.

Can you just walk in the Supreme Court? Not sure if I've ever been in there. But, if you're lucky, when you are going to the Library, maybe there will be a protest/rally outside the Supreme Court. Can't miss out on a good protest while in DC.
Supreme Court gets summer vacation. Term starts in October usually ends in June.

But in general, this is great advice. When the Court is in session (Mon-Wed mornings during term generally) you can wait in line and be shuffled in to watch 5 or 10 minutes of action. It's incredible to see. The House/Senate floor is almost always someone giving a speech to an empty room so they can get soundbites on C-Span for later use or a boring procedural vote, but an active Court is way more impressive. All nine justices sit up there in their fancy robes and grill the lawyers and give you an impression on their leanings and whatnot. Best way to see the government action.

 
I'd also suggest popping into the Library of Congress. Awesome building on the inside.

Can you just walk in the Supreme Court? Not sure if I've ever been in there. But, if you're lucky, when you are going to the Library, maybe there will be a protest/rally outside the Supreme Court. Can't miss out on a good protest while in DC.
Supreme Court gets summer vacation. Term starts in October usually ends in June.

But in general, this is great advice. When the Court is in session (Mon-Wed mornings during term generally) you can wait in line and be shuffled in to watch 5 or 10 minutes of action. It's incredible to see. The House/Senate floor is almost always someone giving a speech to an empty room so they can get soundbites on C-Span for later use or a boring procedural vote, but an active Court is way more impressive. All nine justices sit up there in their fancy robes and grill the lawyers and give you an impression on their leanings and whatnot. Best way to see the government action.
Can you go into the building when they're on vacation and at least see the court room?

Just last week I was in the area and there was some women's rights rally. The lady speaking looked like Gloria Steinam. I assumed there was a relevant case happening that day, but I guess not. Seems odd to hold a rally at the SC when they aren't there.

 
I'd also suggest popping into the Library of Congress. Awesome building on the inside.

Can you just walk in the Supreme Court? Not sure if I've ever been in there. But, if you're lucky, when you are going to the Library, maybe there will be a protest/rally outside the Supreme Court. Can't miss out on a good protest while in DC.
Supreme Court gets summer vacation. Term starts in October usually ends in June.

But in general, this is great advice. When the Court is in session (Mon-Wed mornings during term generally) you can wait in line and be shuffled in to watch 5 or 10 minutes of action. It's incredible to see. The House/Senate floor is almost always someone giving a speech to an empty room so they can get soundbites on C-Span for later use or a boring procedural vote, but an active Court is way more impressive. All nine justices sit up there in their fancy robes and grill the lawyers and give you an impression on their leanings and whatnot. Best way to see the government action.
Can you go into the building when they're on vacation and at least see the court room?

Just last week I was in the area and there was some women's rights rally. The lady speaking looked like Gloria Steinam. I assumed there was a relevant case happening that day, but I guess not. Seems odd to hold a rally at the SC when they aren't there.
Sounds like you can visit out of session.

 
nittany, have you ever shared with us where you work? Would you want to do that or no?
At some point, I'm sure I will.

Dining out, WELL, in the greater DC/Metro area can be a challenging thing. For one, although there are many awesome places to get well-prepared, authentic/honest, reasonably priced meals (mostly ethnic), there are literally hundreds of ethnic restaurants, and an overwhelming number of them are none of the above. There are also many awesome places to get well-prepared, honest/authentic expensive meals, but again, there are many that don't deliver value for the dollars spent, and when one dines at that level and winds up disappointed, it stings on multiple levels, and in a professional sense, I get pretty upset about that. Not everyone can afford to eat out at that level regularly, and for folks who make an occasion out of it, it hurts when that's the outcome, and that really bothers me. The cost of living around here is very high, and for various reasons (mostly location, even moreso than ingredients) it's passed on in one's bill. For how much it costs to dine at a high-end establishment, not a lot of people can afford to make those kind of mistakes, and I think it can have some lasting negative effects, that can sour folks on the whole experience, which isn't fair to the hundreds of really talented Chefs out there cooking with integrity and trying to make an honest go of it, and who deserve to be given the opportunity to earn those dollars.

I am a professional Chef by trade, and I'd like to think most of my peers consider me a reasonably talented cook, but I'll be the first to tell you that I have MILES to go before I'd consider myself at the level of many of my peers and ALL of my mentors. Food - cooking, eating and drinking - are my passionate pursuits, and a I consider it the journey of my lifetime to improve my knowledge and skill on a daily basis. Over the years, I've learned a heck of a lot about ingredients, techniques, food, wine and beer. Passing on any and all of that knowledge to anyone willing to read any of this, in an effort to enjoy those things more is my absolute pleasure.

What I hope to achieve over the life of this thread is to help anyone who takes the time to read here, to make solid, educated/informed choices, based on my own experiences, about where to spend their dining dollars without getting burned, so to speak, at any price point, but certainly with an emphasis on high-end, again, because those mistakes aren't as easy to absorb. I do some teaching, here and there, on ingredients, cooking and nutrition. I'm very heavily involved in the greater DC/Metro culinary scene, I mingle with a lot of Chefs, cooks, and restauranteurs, and I eat out a lot. A lot. For two primary reasons:

First, I eat at a lot of inexpensive ethnic restaurants because their cuisines fascinate me, and my 'culinary soul' has no connection to what's going on with those cuisines, and I'm always trying to learn the 'why's' behind why those cooks are doing what they do. Not to replicate it myself, necessarily, but just to dig deep into how different ethnic cuisines use/combine ingredients in ways I'm not familiar with in my own cooking and culinary background. Their philosophy, if you will. I think it would be incredibly classless and conceited to 'look down on' ethnic restaurants who choose to cook an 'Americanized' version of their cuisines - after all they're in business in an industry that's incredibly hard to be successful in, and they have families to support, but for the most part, a satisfying dining experience for me is as much a learning experience as anything else, and there's just not much learning to be done at places like that. Also, I can't afford to eat out as often as I do, and eat at an 'Obelisk-style' restaurant every time, so when I'm opting for something reasonable and ethnic, authenticity is a real driver for my choices. So I won't spend much time discussing places like that here, but if someone mentions a cuisine they enjoy, I'll offer them some choices that I feel represent that cuisine authentically, cooked and served with passion and integrity.

I'm not of Greek descent, but I was raised on Greek/Mediterranean food and culture due by way of religion (Eastern Orthodox Christian), as well as Eastern European. I enjoy Eastern European food immensely, but I've always been drawn to the cuisines of the Mediterranean, The culinary school I attended was French, based on French Techniques, and I've made it my business to study under Chefs from Greece/Cyprus, Spain, Portugal, Southern France, and Italy, with a smattering of Turkish, Moroccan, Tunisian and Lebanese thrown in for good measure. I call what I do 'Mediterranean Rim'. I don't 'fuse' cuisines, but history and culture have played a major role in drawing parallels between all the various cuisines of the Mediterranean countries, both from an ingredient and technical standpoint, for sure. Those connections are really fascinating, to me at least.

Second, I eat at a lot of high-end Mediterranean-influenced restaurants simply to keep tabs on my peers, superiors and mentors, and to constantly improve upon what I'm attempting to practice, myself. From a professional sense, I think it's pretty much mandatory.

Prior to Culinary School, I studied nutrition and exercise physiology in college, so sourcing and using high-quality ingredients plays an integral role in what I do. My first professional culinary experience involved working under the culinary minds responsible for the now-defunct DC restaurant Ruppert's, which I'm pretty sure few, if any local folks know of, on 7th Street, where the Brown Brothers Passenger/Columbia Room is now located. Tremendously educational and impactful experience that set the tone for the rest of my life. So dedicated to fresh, seasonal, local ingredients long before those terms became cliches (late 90's).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/restrnt/rupperts.htm - this is an old review from about the time I studied there.

Outstanding ingredients, simply prepared just enough to enhance their natural goodness. Everything made from scratch, in house, that could be, most of the time using only oils, vinegars, bone broths, salt and pepper. They didn't even have a freezer, except for a small one to hold the house-made sorbets and ice creams. Wrote a new menu daily from what was coming in through the back door. For the first several months, I arrived in the early AM to receive and prep, hours before dinner service. We didn't get deliveries from restaurant supply companies for anything fresh, but rather from farmers and fishermen on their way to the local markets - they'd let the Chef hand select whatever he wanted before they reached their destinations. So while I do use a lot of organics, it's far more important to me to know the folks growing/harvesting/raising the ingredients, because there are plenty of honest folks out there doing things the right way, like their fathers and grandfathers before them (especially the Amish and Mennonites), who just can't afford to be certified, but don't use chemicals and pesticides or shortcuts, but take a tremendous amount of pride in what they do. Cooking for those people, using their own hand-grown stuff, was amazingly fulfilling. Over the years I've developed a network of farmers and purveyors located from all points of the Chesapeake Bay Watershed, from upstate NY down to the Carolinas from whom I try to source exclusively, whenever possible, and whoever I'm cooking for, I make absolutely sure they get credited for their amazing products.

In the early 2000's, well before Top Chef was even a rumor, I read a book 'Think Like A Chef', by Tom Colicchio, taking that whole idea to a new level, at his new restaurant, Craft. I traveled to NYC and sat down with him for an hour or so, after which he gave me an week's worth of itinerary of places to eat, and Chefs to meet in the City. Through him, I met Dan Barber, Bill Telepan, and Marco Canora, among others, and ate some of the best food, well, ever. Easily one of the best weeks of my life. I've made that trip every spring since then. In 2007, I lived in Manhattan for most of the year, staging in restaurants across the city, while interning in the cheese caves at Artisanal and taking classes there and at Murray's Cheeses. All on my own dime. Lived right near Esca, and spent plenty of time eating and drinking there, and meeting most of the Batali group - Dave Pasternak, Lydia and Joe Bastianich, Jason Denton, Ilan Hall, and many more great folks. Learned an obscene amount. NYC was hard core. By the time I came home, I was burnt out, and needed a while to rest and recover. IMO, Manhattan is the mountain-top, with very respectful nods to Chicago and San Francisco, and not denigrating New Orleans, Philadelphia, Seattle, Boston or Charleston in any way. DC is getting much, much better, but there's still a lot of room for growth.

As far as locally, although I no longer work directly for them, I'm very strongly affiliated with the Black Restaurant Group. Jeff and Barbara Black are close personal friends and mentors. There's no one, absolutely NO ONE more business-savvy in the DC restaurant community, IMO and I owe everything I know about the business side of owning and operating a restaurant, to him. Tremendous individual that I'm very proud to be associated with.

http://www.blackrestaurantgroup.com/

Jeebus, where did the time go? FFS, I was just planning on laying some groundwork to give everyone a frame of reference for where I'm coming from when I talk about DC/Metro area restaurants and food, and wound up writing a sermon.

Oh, well, happy to help out with this thread any way I can. Keep calm, and carry on...

 
nittany, have you ever shared with us where you work? Would you want to do that or no?
At some point, I'm sure I will.

Dining out, WELL, in the greater DC/Metro area can be a challenging thing. For one, although there are many awesome places to get well-prepared, authentic/honest, reasonably priced meals (mostly ethnic), there are literally hundreds of ethnic restaurants, and an overwhelming number of them are none of the above. There are also many awesome places to get well-prepared, honest/authentic expensive meals, but again, there are many that don't deliver value for the dollars spent, and when one dines at that level and winds up disappointed, it stings on multiple levels, and in a professional sense, I get pretty upset about that. Not everyone can afford to eat out at that level regularly, and for folks who make an occasion out of it, it hurts when that's the outcome, and that really bothers me. The cost of living around here is very high, and for various reasons (mostly location, even moreso than ingredients) it's passed on in one's bill. For how much it costs to dine at a high-end establishment, not a lot of people can afford to make those kind of mistakes, and I think it can have some lasting negative effects, that can sour folks on the whole experience, which isn't fair to the hundreds of really talented Chefs out there cooking with integrity and trying to make an honest go of it, and who deserve to be given the opportunity to earn those dollars.

I am a professional Chef by trade, and I'd like to think most of my peers consider me a reasonably talented cook, but I'll be the first to tell you that I have MILES to go before I'd consider myself at the level of many of my peers and ALL of my mentors. Food - cooking, eating and drinking - are my passionate pursuits, and a I consider it the journey of my lifetime to improve my knowledge and skill on a daily basis. Over the years, I've learned a heck of a lot about ingredients, techniques, food, wine and beer. Passing on any and all of that knowledge to anyone willing to read any of this, in an effort to enjoy those things more is my absolute pleasure.

What I hope to achieve over the life of this thread is to help anyone who takes the time to read here, to make solid, educated/informed choices, based on my own experiences, about where to spend their dining dollars without getting burned, so to speak, at any price point, but certainly with an emphasis on high-end, again, because those mistakes aren't as easy to absorb. I do some teaching, here and there, on ingredients, cooking and nutrition. I'm very heavily involved in the greater DC/Metro culinary scene, I mingle with a lot of Chefs, cooks, and restauranteurs, and I eat out a lot. A lot. For two primary reasons:

First, I eat at a lot of inexpensive ethnic restaurants because their cuisines fascinate me, and my 'culinary soul' has no connection to what's going on with those cuisines, and I'm always trying to learn the 'why's' behind why those cooks are doing what they do. Not to replicate it myself, necessarily, but just to dig deep into how different ethnic cuisines use/combine ingredients in ways I'm not familiar with in my own cooking and culinary background. Their philosophy, if you will. I think it would be incredibly classless and conceited to 'look down on' ethnic restaurants who choose to cook an 'Americanized' version of their cuisines - after all they're in business in an industry that's incredibly hard to be successful in, and they have families to support, but for the most part, a satisfying dining experience for me is as much a learning experience as anything else, and there's just not much learning to be done at places like that. Also, I can't afford to eat out as often as I do, and eat at an 'Obelisk-style' restaurant every time, so when I'm opting for something reasonable and ethnic, authenticity is a real driver for my choices. So I won't spend much time discussing places like that here, but if someone mentions a cuisine they enjoy, I'll offer them some choices that I feel represent that cuisine authentically, cooked and served with passion and integrity.

I'm not of Greek descent, but I was raised on Greek/Mediterranean food and culture due by way of religion (Eastern Orthodox Christian), as well as Eastern European. I enjoy Eastern European food immensely, but I've always been drawn to the cuisines of the Mediterranean, The culinary school I attended was French, based on French Techniques, and I've made it my business to study under Chefs from Greece/Cyprus, Spain, Portugal, Southern France, and Italy, with a smattering of Turkish, Moroccan, Tunisian and Lebanese thrown in for good measure. I call what I do 'Mediterranean Rim'. I don't 'fuse' cuisines, but history and culture have played a major role in drawing parallels between all the various cuisines of the Mediterranean countries, both from an ingredient and technical standpoint, for sure. Those connections are really fascinating, to me at least.

Second, I eat at a lot of high-end Mediterranean-influenced restaurants simply to keep tabs on my peers, superiors and mentors, and to constantly improve upon what I'm attempting to practice, myself. From a professional sense, I think it's pretty much mandatory.

Prior to Culinary School, I studied nutrition and exercise physiology in college, so sourcing and using high-quality ingredients plays an integral role in what I do. My first professional culinary experience involved working under the culinary minds responsible for the now-defunct DC restaurant Ruppert's, which I'm pretty sure few, if any local folks know of, on 7th Street, where the Brown Brothers Passenger/Columbia Room is now located. Tremendously educational and impactful experience that set the tone for the rest of my life. So dedicated to fresh, seasonal, local ingredients long before those terms became cliches (late 90's).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/restrnt/rupperts.htm - this is an old review from about the time I studied there.

Outstanding ingredients, simply prepared just enough to enhance their natural goodness. Everything made from scratch, in house, that could be, most of the time using only oils, vinegars, bone broths, salt and pepper. They didn't even have a freezer, except for a small one to hold the house-made sorbets and ice creams. Wrote a new menu daily from what was coming in through the back door. For the first several months, I arrived in the early AM to receive and prep, hours before dinner service. We didn't get deliveries from restaurant supply companies for anything fresh, but rather from farmers and fishermen on their way to the local markets - they'd let the Chef hand select whatever he wanted before they reached their destinations. So while I do use a lot of organics, it's far more important to me to know the folks growing/harvesting/raising the ingredients, because there are plenty of honest folks out there doing things the right way, like their fathers and grandfathers before them (especially the Amish and Mennonites), who just can't afford to be certified, but don't use chemicals and pesticides or shortcuts, but take a tremendous amount of pride in what they do. Cooking for those people, using their own hand-grown stuff, was amazingly fulfilling. Over the years I've developed a network of farmers and purveyors located from all points of the Chesapeake Bay Watershed, from upstate NY down to the Carolinas from whom I try to source exclusively, whenever possible, and whoever I'm cooking for, I make absolutely sure they get credited for their amazing products.

In the early 2000's, well before Top Chef was even a rumor, I read a book 'Think Like A Chef', by Tom Colicchio, taking that whole idea to a new level, at his new restaurant, Craft. I traveled to NYC and sat down with him for an hour or so, after which he gave me an week's worth of itinerary of places to eat, and Chefs to meet in the City. Through him, I met Dan Barber, Bill Telepan, and Marco Canora, among others, and ate some of the best food, well, ever. Easily one of the best weeks of my life. I've made that trip every spring since then. In 2007, I lived in Manhattan for most of the year, staging in restaurants across the city, while interning in the cheese caves at Artisanal and taking classes there and at Murray's Cheeses. All on my own dime. Lived right near Esca, and spent plenty of time eating and drinking there, and meeting most of the Batali group - Dave Pasternak, Lydia and Joe Bastianich, Jason Denton, Ilan Hall, and many more great folks. Learned an obscene amount. NYC was hard core. By the time I came home, I was burnt out, and needed a while to rest and recover. IMO, Manhattan is the mountain-top, with very respectful nods to Chicago and San Francisco, and not denigrating New Orleans, Philadelphia, Seattle, Boston or Charleston in any way. DC is getting much, much better, but there's still a lot of room for growth.

As far as locally, although I no longer work directly for them, I'm very strongly affiliated with the Black Restaurant Group. Jeff and Barbara Black are close personal friends and mentors. There's no one, absolutely NO ONE more business-savvy in the DC restaurant community, IMO and I owe everything I know about the business side of owning and operating a restaurant, to him. Tremendous individual that I'm very proud to be associated with.

http://www.blackrestaurantgroup.com/

Jeebus, where did the time go? FFS, I was just planning on laying some groundwork to give everyone a frame of reference for where I'm coming from when I talk about DC/Metro area restaurants and food, and wound up writing a sermon.

Oh, well, happy to help out with this thread any way I can. Keep calm, and carry on...
Very cool. I have some restauranteur clients in the DC area and the Black restaurants are all great. They really know what they are doing and care about the whole customer experience. I was really sad to see Addie's close (and not only because my youngest daughter is named Adeline and she used to love to go eat at "her" restaurant).

 
Thanks, nittany. :thumbup:

As a married father of 3 with a single income, I LOVE hearing about good cheap eats. I mean, I guess everyone likes to hear about good cheap eats, but at this point in my life I really don't even give the top places a second thought and have little interest in dropping over $100 on dinner for 2 and certainly no desire right now to spend a lot more than that on one evening.

We live near Centreville and it's been great to have so many Koreans move into the area recently. Entire shopping centers full of Korean shops and restaurants have provided several good places to eat (as far as my unsophisticated palate can tell) that aren't too expensive, including a few Korean bakeries that serve a decent cup of coffee. At the most recent birthday party for one of my kids, we picked up a cake from one of the bakeries. They're certainly different than American cakes, but luckily my kids liked it.

Also near our house is a Mediterranean place, Rosemary's Thyme Bistro. Apparently they have a second location in Adams Morgan. Not sure if you're familiar with it or not and could provide your opinion of it from a professional's point of view. We've been going there for over 10 years and usually enjoy it. I really like the Lahmacun. Never heard of it until they added it to the menu a few years ago.

My understanding is, as you say, the DC area dining scene is improving but has a ways to go. It's not one of the top culinary cities in the country, but it's not a wasteland either. In your opinion, what improvements need to be made in the DC area? More "gourmet" burger and froyo places, amiright?

 
One site I like for restaurant recs is Tyler Cowen's Ethnic Dining Guide. For those who don't know, Tyler is a econ professor at GMU and has a strong interest in food. He's written books where he applies econ theory to dining out and food. He does a lot of econ/culture type of work. He also writes articles for the NY Times and has a very successful econ blog. Since he's based in Fairfax, many of the restaurants he mentions will be in VA, but he does hit several places in DC and MD.

 
NL,

Now I really want to know where you cook. I'm 1/2 italian, and my wife is entirely italian/scillian/greek, and I love mediterrian food. Did a mediterrian cruise when she was preggo with our first, which was interesting since she kept craving pizza in places where the pizza isn't what you eat (Mallorca, Barcelona, etc).

If/when you decide to let us know where you're cooking currently, I think you can expect some of us to show up there sometime soon.

 
NL,

Now I really want to know where you cook. I'm 1/2 italian, and my wife is entirely italian/scillian/greek, and I love mediterrian food. Did a mediterrian cruise when she was preggo with our first, which was interesting since she kept craving pizza in places where the pizza isn't what you eat (Mallorca, Barcelona, etc).

If/when you decide to let us know where you're cooking currently, I think you can expect some of us to show up there sometime soon.
I'm in for the cornhole at nittanylion's bistro.

 
I've known nittanylion for a few years now and can emphatically vouch for everything he has posted. There is no BS in the guy and he is an amazing chef. He, his wife and his crew catered my wife's retirement party some time back and to say he totally blew us away would be an understatement. Any place that he recommends, you can take it to the bank that it will be awesome!

 
After thinking more about what fatguy and dgreen said, I am going to rent a car at Union Station Tuesday. The MARC will provide the train experience for the trip.

A car will mean we can make a detour to the Virginia portion of the Air and Space museum. Looks like some cool stuff there. Plus it's another state my son can say he has stepped into, which is kind of a big deal at his age. Looks like we'll also drive through Delaware. Might even dip into New Jersey for one more state.

This will be (by far) our biggest Father-Son trip to date, so we're pretty excited. :thumbup:

 
After thinking more about what fatguy and dgreen said, I am going to rent a car at Union Station Tuesday. The MARC will provide the train experience for the trip.

A car will mean we can make a detour to the Virginia portion of the Air and Space museum. Looks like some cool stuff there. Plus it's another state my son can say he has stepped into, which is kind of a big deal at his age. Looks like we'll also drive through Delaware. Might even dip into New Jersey for one more state.

This will be (by far) our biggest Father-Son trip to date, so we're pretty excited. :thumbup:
Just FYI, driving to VA is out of the way of going to Philly. Probably not a huge deal if you have the time and are ok with driving, just letting you know.

I think the DC Air and Space offers free shuttles to and from the Dulles location.

 
Disco Stu said:
Looks like we'll also drive through Delaware. Might even dip into New Jersey for one more state.
I'm sure these excursions will provide a lifetime of memories. I remember the first time I went to Delaware like it was yesterday. The cosmopolitan flair of Wilmington! The hustle and bustle of Dover! The confusing name of Newark! The permissive corporate law! It felt like I was stepping into a magical land filled with wonderment and possibility. Alas, the excitement lasted only for the 15 minutes it took to drive all the way through the state.

 
Disco Stu said:
Looks like we'll also drive through Delaware. Might even dip into New Jersey for one more state.
I'm sure these excursions will provide a lifetime of memories. I remember the first time I went to Delaware like it was yesterday. The cosmopolitan flair of Wilmington! The hustle and bustle of Dover! The confusing name of Newark! The permissive corporate law! It felt like I was stepping into a magical land filled with wonderment and possibility. Alas, the excitement lasted only for the 15 minutes it took to drive all the way through the state.
I think you pay about $1 per minute in tolls when going through DE.

 
Disco Stu said:
Looks like we'll also drive through Delaware. Might even dip into New Jersey for one more state.
I'm sure these excursions will provide a lifetime of memories. I remember the first time I went to Delaware like it was yesterday. The cosmopolitan flair of Wilmington! The hustle and bustle of Dover! The confusing name of Newark! The permissive corporate law! It felt like I was stepping into a magical land filled with wonderment and possibility. Alas, the excitement lasted only for the 15 minutes it took to drive all the way through the state.
The tolls!

 
Disco Stu said:
After thinking more about what fatguy and dgreen said, I am going to rent a car at Union Station Tuesday. The MARC will provide the train experience for the trip.

A car will mean we can make a detour to the Virginia portion of the Air and Space museum. Looks like some cool stuff there. Plus it's another state my son can say he has stepped into, which is kind of a big deal at his age. Looks like we'll also drive through Delaware. Might even dip into New Jersey for one more state.

This will be (by far) our biggest Father-Son trip to date, so we're pretty excited. :thumbup:
If your son is into the air/space stuff, the Museum in Va is absolutely worth it. It's definitely the best one in the country. I took my 63 year old dad there a few weeks ago and he was like a kid in a candy store.

That said, give yourselves plenty of time to get to/from there from DC. If there's any traffic it can be a little bit of a haul.

 
Disco Stu said:
Looks like we'll also drive through Delaware. Might even dip into New Jersey for one more state.
I'm sure these excursions will provide a lifetime of memories. I remember the first time I went to Delaware like it was yesterday. The cosmopolitan flair of Wilmington! The hustle and bustle of Dover! The confusing name of Newark! The permissive corporate law! It felt like I was stepping into a magical land filled with wonderment and possibility. Alas, the excitement lasted only for the 15 minutes it took to drive all the way through the state.
I think you pay about $1 per minute in tolls when going through DE.
But you can get it all back in tax-free shopping at the retail mecca that is the Delaware House Travel Plaza.

 
Disco Stu said:
Looks like we'll also drive through Delaware. Might even dip into New Jersey for one more state.
I'm sure these excursions will provide a lifetime of memories. I remember the first time I went to Delaware like it was yesterday. The cosmopolitan flair of Wilmington! The hustle and bustle of Dover! The confusing name of Newark! The permissive corporate law! It felt like I was stepping into a magical land filled with wonderment and possibility. Alas, the excitement lasted only for the 15 minutes it took to drive all the way through the state.
:lmao: Think of it this way... now he will never have to return.

And yeah, Dulles is a detour but not that bad. Adds about 50 minutes according to google maps. Seems worth it to see a space shuttle and SR-71 (especially since I'm in defense electronics).

 
Thanks, nittany. :thumbup:

As a married father of 3 with a single income, I LOVE hearing about good cheap eats. I mean, I guess everyone likes to hear about good cheap eats, but at this point in my life I really don't even give the top places a second thought and have little interest in dropping over $100 on dinner for 2 and certainly no desire right now to spend a lot more than that on one evening.

We live near Centreville and it's been great to have so many Koreans move into the area recently. Entire shopping centers full of Korean shops and restaurants have provided several good places to eat (as far as my unsophisticated palate can tell) that aren't too expensive, including a few Korean bakeries that serve a decent cup of coffee. At the most recent birthday party for one of my kids, we picked up a cake from one of the bakeries. They're certainly different than American cakes, but luckily my kids liked it.

Also near our house is a Mediterranean place, Rosemary's Thyme Bistro. Apparently they have a second location in Adams Morgan. Not sure if you're familiar with it or not and could provide your opinion of it from a professional's point of view. We've been going there for over 10 years and usually enjoy it. I really like the Lahmacun. Never heard of it until they added it to the menu a few years ago.

My understanding is, as you say, the DC area dining scene is improving but has a ways to go. It's not one of the top culinary cities in the country, but it's not a wasteland either. In your opinion, what improvements need to be made in the DC area? More "gourmet" burger and froyo places, amiright?
Been to Rosemary's Thyme in Adams Morgan/Dupont Circle (for some reason I am remembering it being down towards Dupont) and it was good. Not great but definitely good.

 
Thanks, nittany. :thumbup:

As a married father of 3 with a single income, I LOVE hearing about good cheap eats. I mean, I guess everyone likes to hear about good cheap eats, but at this point in my life I really don't even give the top places a second thought and have little interest in dropping over $100 on dinner for 2 and certainly no desire right now to spend a lot more than that on one evening.

We live near Centreville and it's been great to have so many Koreans move into the area recently. Entire shopping centers full of Korean shops and restaurants have provided several good places to eat (as far as my unsophisticated palate can tell) that aren't too expensive, including a few Korean bakeries that serve a decent cup of coffee. At the most recent birthday party for one of my kids, we picked up a cake from one of the bakeries. They're certainly different than American cakes, but luckily my kids liked it.

Also near our house is a Mediterranean place, Rosemary's Thyme Bistro. Apparently they have a second location in Adams Morgan. Not sure if you're familiar with it or not and could provide your opinion of it from a professional's point of view. We've been going there for over 10 years and usually enjoy it. I really like the Lahmacun. Never heard of it until they added it to the menu a few years ago.

My understanding is, as you say, the DC area dining scene is improving but has a ways to go. It's not one of the top culinary cities in the country, but it's not a wasteland either. In your opinion, what improvements need to be made in the DC area? More "gourmet" burger and froyo places, amiright?
Been to Rosemary's Thyme in Adams Morgan/Dupont Circle (for some reason I am remembering it being down towards Dupont) and it was good. Not great but definitely good.
18th and S.

Not sure if they still do this, but they used to have half-price bottles of wine and cheap appetizers during happy hour, including weekends.

 
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Looks like we'll also drive through Delaware. Might even dip into New Jersey for one more state.
I'm sure these excursions will provide a lifetime of memories. I remember the first time I went to Delaware like it was yesterday. The cosmopolitan flair of Wilmington! The hustle and bustle of Dover! The confusing name of Newark! The permissive corporate law! It felt like I was stepping into a magical land filled with wonderment and possibility. Alas, the excitement lasted only for the 15 minutes it took to drive all the way through the state.
I had a 1L professor who showed us a picture of himself in front of this building.

 
Thanks, nittany. :thumbup:

As a married father of 3 with a single income, I LOVE hearing about good cheap eats. I mean, I guess everyone likes to hear about good cheap eats, but at this point in my life I really don't even give the top places a second thought and have little interest in dropping over $100 on dinner for 2 and certainly no desire right now to spend a lot more than that on one evening.

We live near Centreville and it's been great to have so many Koreans move into the area recently. Entire shopping centers full of Korean shops and restaurants have provided several good places to eat (as far as my unsophisticated palate can tell) that aren't too expensive, including a few Korean bakeries that serve a decent cup of coffee. At the most recent birthday party for one of my kids, we picked up a cake from one of the bakeries. They're certainly different than American cakes, but luckily my kids liked it.

Also near our house is a Mediterranean place, Rosemary's Thyme Bistro. Apparently they have a second location in Adams Morgan. Not sure if you're familiar with it or not and could provide your opinion of it from a professional's point of view. We've been going there for over 10 years and usually enjoy it. I really like the Lahmacun. Never heard of it until they added it to the menu a few years ago.

My understanding is, as you say, the DC area dining scene is improving but has a ways to go. It's not one of the top culinary cities in the country, but it's not a wasteland either. In your opinion, what improvements need to be made in the DC area? More "gourmet" burger and froyo places, amiright?
Been to Rosemary's Thyme in Adams Morgan/Dupont Circle (for some reason I am remembering it being down towards Dupont) and it was good. Not great but definitely good.
18th and S.

Not sure if they still do this, but they used to have half-price bottles of wine and cheap appetizers during happy hour, including weekends.
Thank you, yes, right by Lauriol Plaza.

 
NL,

Now I really want to know where you cook. I'm 1/2 italian, and my wife is entirely italian/scillian/greek, and I love mediterrian food. Did a mediterrian cruise when she was preggo with our first, which was interesting since she kept craving pizza in places where the pizza isn't what you eat (Mallorca, Barcelona, etc).

If/when you decide to let us know where you're cooking currently, I think you can expect some of us to show up there sometime soon.
I'm in for the cornhole at nittanylion's bistro.
Let's hit that right after the weed decriminalization party at your place.

 
The_Man said:
NL,

Now I really want to know where you cook. I'm 1/2 italian, and my wife is entirely italian/scillian/greek, and I love mediterrian food. Did a mediterrian cruise when she was preggo with our first, which was interesting since she kept craving pizza in places where the pizza isn't what you eat (Mallorca, Barcelona, etc).

If/when you decide to let us know where you're cooking currently, I think you can expect some of us to show up there sometime soon.
I'm in for the cornhole at nittanylion's bistro.
Let's hit that right after the weed decriminalization party at your place.
Stupid security clearance ruining this for me...

 
Stu,

If you want to freak your kid out, show him the Exorcist right before coming, and then head over to Georgetown in the late evening. The house its filmed in and the infamous stairs are right on the south side of the the school's campus. Went to a party in the house next door once, and the basement looked identical to the one they're in for the oujia board scene. I was playing beer pong in it while trying to not outwardly freak out.

This will pretty much garuntee your kid won't sleep for a week though.

-H

 
Anyone looking for very good pizza in suburban MD, a new place, Frankly's Pizza just opened up in Kensington. Fantastic. Its been open a week and I've been twice already, lol
Frank Linn is a good guy, funny as heck, and a talented pizzaolo. Started out with a wood burning oven on a trailer making neapolitan-style pizze in and around southern Montgomery County. Few years back, settled in at the Kensington Farmer's Market by the MARC Train Station near antique row (Saturdays 8AM - Noon). The space he's in now has been a hodgepodge of mediocre places over the last several years. I've actually looked at it twice, but the Ownership of the property itself is a little convoluted...IMO, was a better place to buy outright than lease, and they weren't selling at what I felt was a well researched and thought out offer. Oh, well.

http://www.frankly-pizza.com/

He makes a good pie and has wanted to do the brick-and-mortar thing for some time. Know he got mauled during the opening week. Cut back the hours, probably to give himself the opportunity to rest and recover, which is wise on his part. He's a solid cook, uses good ingredients, and will probably be doing some interesting food besides pizza eventually. Beer and Wine License, thoughful selection, not run-of-the-mill stuff, which is nice. Glad you like it (HULK), and the rest of you should check it out at some point. I haven't been in yet, probably will give him 3 months or so to get his feet under him before I check in to see how he's doing...

...thankfully, there's another Owner-Operated Pizza Napolitana spot right in our neck of the woods that everyone should know about if they already don't. My guys Ankur and John, on Rockville Pike behind Radio Shack across from Congressional Plaza, have been doin' it and doin' it and doin' it well for 3 years or so now at Pizza CS. (CS = Come Sempre). Bad-### woodburning oven, and Ankur is a real-deal VPN Naples-trained pizzaolo.

Interestingly, they're doin' it well right across from local chain Matchbox. I know those guys too, and was a big fan when they first got started, but IMO they've declined from excellent to above average as they've expanded. When I'm out to eat high-quality pizza, personally, I'm not interested in 'the scene', and I'm not really interested in a menu so broad that it takes the focus off the pizza, but that's probably a personal thing.

So, give John and Ankur/Pizza CS a shot if you're in the area, especially if you're a fan of the whole David vs Goliath thing, which isn't officially what's going on between them and Matchbox, but probably kind of is, anyway. I'm in and out of there probably once a week, if anyone ever wants to meet up, PM.

http://pizzacs.com/

So this is probably as good a time/place as any to list my best DC-Metro Area Pizzerias for anyone who's interested. FWIW, I prefer Neapolitan-style pizza:

1. Pupatella - http://www.pupatella.com/

2. Menomale - http://menomale.us/about/

3. Pizzaria Orso - http://www.pizzeriaorso.com/

4. 2 Amy's - http://development.ginatolentino.com/2amys/?page_id=10

5. Pizza CS - see link above

6. Mia's - http://miaspizzasbethesda.com/

YMMV, but with nothing else to do between now and the start of football season, it's as good as any a topic to discuss. Happy to provide details and inside scoop for anyone interested, about these places or any other restaurants in the greater DC/Metro area.
Ate at Pizza CS tonight. It was great. Between there and Frankly's I'm happy to have two such good places nearby. Personally, I think Frank has a slight edge, but my wife perferred Pizza CS by a decent ammount. I think Frank cooks a little hotter, the pizza is a bit less greasy than CS, but it burns a bit more on the crust. Both are top notch though.

 
Awesome, (HULK), glad PCS worked out for you and the missus...

Say, do any of you locals who post here actually PLAY, magic football?

If you do, there's a live auction League going into Season #7.

Draft is held in Olney, MD at noon on Sunday, August 24th...

Here's the thread:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=702366#entry17064026

I'm sure we'd find room for interested folks from the Forums here.

 
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Menomale was great, really a great authentic Italian pizza.

Pretty funny name for a restaurant, meno male in Italian means less than bad. Usually you say it like you're relieved something is over with, lol. Owner is from Naples though, place is in a iffy neighborhood that looks to have a lot of rehabs. So I guess it'll be hipsterville in eight or nine months. :mellow:

 
Awesome, (HULK), glad PCS worked out for you and the missus...

Say, do any of you locals who post here actually PLAY, magic football?

If you do, there's a live auction League going into Season #7.

Draft is held in Olney, MD at noon on Sunday, August 24th...

Here's the thread:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=702366#entry17064026

I'm sure we'd find room for interested folks from the Forums here.
I'm at capacity w/ 4 leagues at the moment. I can't handle more than that w/out the wife getting too far into the magic football widow schtick.

 
For those of you with kids, thought I'd share what I did this weekend. A while ago, I had read about the playground at the Beauvior School (next to the National Cathedral). Saturday, had a chance to get over there. Kids loved it. The highlight is a cool zip line. My kids are 7, 9, and 11 and all really enjoyed it. It's open to the public as long as they aren't in school or having some kind of camp there.

This might become part of our rotation on days we go to the zoo.

 
Awesome, (HULK), glad PCS worked out for you and the missus...

Say, do any of you locals who post here actually PLAY, magic football?

If you do, there's a live auction League going into Season #7.

Draft is held in Olney, MD at noon on Sunday, August 24th...

Here's the thread:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=702366#entry17064026

I'm sure we'd find room for interested folks from the Forums here.
I'd still like to make it out to this one of these years, but I have another draft that day.

 
dgreen said:
For those of you with kids, thought I'd share what I did this weekend. A while ago, I had read about the playground at the Beauvior School (next to the National Cathedral). Saturday, had a chance to get over there. Kids loved it. The highlight is a cool zip line. My kids are 7, 9, and 11 and all really enjoyed it. It's open to the public as long as they aren't in school or having some kind of camp there.

This might become part of our rotation on days we go to the zoo.
Interesting, did you drive? We are planning to go next weekend, and will likely be taking the Metro (First trip on Silver Line!) since parking at zoo sux.

 
Didn't go to zoo this weekend. Only went to Beauvior. Yes, we drove there. The school has a small parking lot but there are many spots on neighborhood streets.

I usually go back and forth on the zoo. Sometimes I prefer driving there and other times Metro. I usually try to get street parking of Connecticut.

Beauvior is about a mile from the zoo. Not sure if there's a bus route connecting the zoo and cathedral.

 
We just did a 4 day trip staying in Falls Church at the Marriott. I had been reading through this thread, big thanks for the Taco Bamba recommendation - we really liked it. Wish I had seen the playground talk, we went to the zoo for parts of 2 days as my wife and the kids loved it. For those planning a visit we found a combo of driving and metro worked for us.

 
DC is giving PG County a run for its money imo. 21 people shot in under a week is pretty damn terrible.

 

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