The ***OFFICIAL*** Washington, DC thread (3 Viewers)

[Al O'Pecia]

Don and Mike had a really big influence on Chad and you can hear it almost everytime he talks.Dukes comes across to me as the guy who wants to be cool but really is an ####### and the one time I did meet him(he came into a local bar here)he started off being okay to talk to and then turned into a raging #######.

I didn't mind Big O and Dukes on WJFK in small doses but once the station flipped to sports talk I was done with taking him seriously about anything.He is good for rants and an occasional funny story but that's it.

Dukes is a bish. He's more sensitive than a menstruating woman. I was friends with Dukes on Facebook. I commented on one of his postings with a light hearted joke. He didn't like the comment so he blew up in full Dukes rant mode, and defriended me so I couldn't respond. He smacks of having insecurity issues.

I've met Oscar. He was very nice and down to Earth.

 

[dgreen]

Junkies are a fine example of that,they are almost just a gossip,attempt to be funny and still throw in the same old shtick from 15 years ago with little to no knowledge of any sport.

They've definitely moved towards a more rounded show with less sports. Early on, it was almost 100% sports. I think their thought is that gets better ratings and they're probably right. I think they can be very knowledgeable about certain sports. I'm not huge into golf or tennis, so they come off as knowledgeable there. Also, Jason played basketball at Dematha and then some in college and has a deep knowledge of the game. But, he tends to shy away from getting too deep into Xs and Os on the show.

Overall, I think they do a "entertainment" show and not a "sports" show. I don't think they do too much homework or prep work and study certain sports topics to talk about. They basically just talk about whatever they want.

 

[(HULK)]

Don and Mike had a really big influence on Chad and you can hear it almost everytime he talks.Dukes comes across to me as the guy who wants to be cool but really is an ####### and the one time I did meet him(he came into a local bar here)he started off being okay to talk to and then turned into a raging #######.

I didn't mind Big O and Dukes on WJFK in small doses but once the station flipped to sports talk I was done with taking him seriously about anything.He is good for rants and an occasional funny story but that's it.

Dukes is a bish. He's more sensitive than a menstruating woman. I was friends with Dukes on Facebook. I commented on one of his postings with a light hearted joke. He didn't like the comment so he blew up in full Dukes rant mode, and defriended me so I couldn't respond. He smacks of having insecurity issues.

I've met Oscar. He was very nice and down to Earth.

I went to highschool w/ Oscar. Good dude.

 

[tom22406]

Junkies are a fine example of that,they are almost just a gossip,attempt to be funny and still throw in the same old shtick from 15 years ago with little to no knowledge of any sport.

They've definitely moved towards a more rounded show with less sports. Early on, it was almost 100% sports. I think their thought is that gets better ratings and they're probably right. I think they can be very knowledgeable about certain sports. I'm not huge into golf or tennis, so they come off as knowledgeable there. Also, Jason played basketball at Dematha and then some in college and has a deep knowledge of the game. But, he tends to shy away from getting too deep into Xs and Os on the show.

Overall, I think they do a "entertainment" show and not a "sports" show. I don't think they do too much homework or prep work and study certain sports topics to talk about. They basically just talk about whatever they want.

Jason would be the only one so I will give you that.He knows his baseball and golf but as you said rarely gets into anything of detail but it may be by design since the others can't hang.Lurch is really the only one I could tolerate away from the four(if they split).

They dropped the name Sports Junkies to just Junkies so that clearly was the goal to get away from that.I don't really catch them that much anymore so you could be right.

 

[Swing 51]

I thought Dukes started out as a fanboy calling in to the Junks show and then his "career" took off from there.?

 

[tom22406]

I thought Dukes started out as a fanboy calling in to the Junks show and then his "career" took off from there.?

Found this.

http://deadspin.com/d-c-station-remembers-the-good-times-when-radio-guys-1611799385

My how times have changed so fast.

 

[dgreen]

We need Ken Beatrice back.

BYE NOW!!

 

[dgreen]

As bad as sports talk radio has been in DC, TV sports anchors have been top notch. Glenn Brenner stood alone in tier 1. Warner Wolf and George Michael became nationally known back in the day and it now seems like DC is ESPN's minor league affiliate.

And, newspaper sports columnists have also been high quality.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

As bad as sports talk radio has been in DC, TV sports anchors have been top notch. Glenn Brenner stood alone in tier 1. Warner Wolf and George Michael became nationally known back in the day and it now seems like DC is ESPN's minor league affiliate.

And, newspaper sports columnists have also been high quality.

Holy cow. I just Googled to remember what Glenn Brenner's name was. The 25 year old me thought he was awesome.

 

[Al O'Pecia]

As bad as sports talk radio has been in DC, TV sports anchors have been top notch. Glenn Brenner stood alone in tier 1. Warner Wolf and George Michael became nationally known back in the day and it now seems like DC is ESPN's minor league affiliate.

Add Dan Hellie to the list. He's great on the NFL Network.

 

[Apple Jack]

Brenner was the best I've seen on local TV. He would have been great with Vance pre-burnout.

 

[larch]

I loved listening to Don and Mike. Did lots of driving around town in the 80s/90s and was able to listen to them when I was driving back after dropping people off (like Dulles). They put on a great show.

You probably know, but both have their own podcasts now. Don's cost money and Mike's is free.

 

[Al O'Pecia]

Larch? Are you Lurch's brother?

 

[dgreen]

I loved listening to Don and Mike. Did lots of driving around town in the 80s/90s and was able to listen to them when I was driving back after dropping people off (like Dulles). They put on a great show.

You probably know, but both have their own podcasts now. Don's cost money and Mike's is free.

I never liked them on their own. Whenever one of them was off from their show, it wasn't very good. They worked so well together, but neither, IMO, can really carry a show themselves.

 

[larch]

I loved listening to Don and Mike. Did lots of driving around town in the 80s/90s and was able to listen to them when I was driving back after dropping people off (like Dulles). They put on a great show.

You probably know, but both have their own podcasts now. Don's cost money and Mike's is free.

I never liked them on their own. Whenever one of them was off from their show, it wasn't very good. They worked so well together, but neither, IMO, can really carry a show themselves.

Mike isn't too bad with Robb and Oscar Santana. I haven't listened to Don since he got booted from his radio gig in Sacramento and went "pay per listen".

But yes, you are correct. I think it helps that Mike's podcast is only 80 minutes so it doesn't get to bad.

 

[Mr. Ected]

I loved listening to Don and Mike. Did lots of driving around town in the 80s/90s and was able to listen to them when I was driving back after dropping people off (like Dulles). They put on a great show.

You probably know, but both have their own podcasts now. Don's cost money and Mike's is free.

Yeah, haven't listened to them, I probably would think they would be better together. Loved Buzz Burbank.

Anyone know why they never got back together? I thought the end of the show was due to Freda's death.

 

[larch]

I loved listening to Don and Mike. Did lots of driving around town in the 80s/90s and was able to listen to them when I was driving back after dropping people off (like Dulles). They put on a great show.

You probably know, but both have their own podcasts now. Don's cost money and Mike's is free.

Yeah, haven't listened to them, I probably would think they would be better together. Loved Buzz Burbank.

Anyone know why they never got back together? I thought the end of the show was due to Freda's death.

Pretty much that. Don wanted to step back after her death.

 

[VA703]

all dukes talks about is rasslin' and ranking food/items. show has gone way downhill ever since hes taken it over. junkies in the morning and that's it

 

[dgreen]

Here's an example of what you can get in Old Town Manassas. Way under Tobias' budget. Positives are 1/2 mile to VRE/Amtrak station and the historic downtown area. Negatives are the commute and apparently lower rated schools. While it would be a long train ride into DC, you are allowed to eat on VRE so you could use that time better than, say, on Metro.

I really don't know what it means, though, that the schools are "Below Standard". My guess is that's based on test scores? And my guess is those are lower because of a high foreign born (mostly Hispanic) population without strong English skills? You can read things online about gangs, but I don't know if that's mostly just racism or not. I'm sure much of Manassas is still pretty redneck and plenty of people who don't like all the darker skin folks who have moved in over the years. So that would be another negative, too.

If schools do seem like a problem, I guess the cheaper houses could leave enough room for private school.

Yeah I'd have to investigate the schools thing, and the distance from my folks (and Verizon Center and Nats Park!) is a concern. It's certainly appealing though, and because the VRE trains apparently stop at L'Enfant it would save me a bunch of time and effort as compared to coming in to Union Station.

Thanks for another great idea. Like I said yesterday, you guys are awesome.

Chris Samuels is now the head coach at this high school (Osbourn), so maybe things are on the rise!

 

[oso diablo]

for our upcoming family vacation to DC, i want to have one dinner at a place where i can immerse the kids (ages 17, 15, and 9) in another country's exotic cultural experience. not just the food, but also the ambiance.

when i last visited DC, some 25 years ago, i went to an Ethiopian place (Meskerem) where you sat on cushions, and scooped up your food with injera. that sort of idea.

any suggestions?

ETA: reminder that we will not have a car, so prefer places near a metro stop.

 

[Mr. Ected]

Georgia Browns - serves cuisine from that other country of The South.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

As bad as sports talk radio has been in DC, TV sports anchors have been top notch. Glenn Brenner stood alone in tier 1. Warner Wolf and George Michael became nationally known back in the day and it now seems like DC is ESPN's minor league affiliate.

Add Dan Hellie to the list. He's great on the NFL Network.

DC has been a hotbed for sports personality talent. Everybody is at espn or the NFL Network now. Just off the top of my head....

Wilbon & Tony

Andrew Siciliano

Lindsay Czarniak

Dan Hellie

Scott Van Pelt

Rachael Nichols

 

[oso diablo]

Georgia Browns - serves cuisine from that other country of The South.

that place does look great, but i've been immersed in that particular cultural experience for 49 years.

 

[oso diablo]

for another one of our evenings, i'd like to have dinner at a place considered a DC institution. Old Ebbitt Grill appears to fit the bill. Thoughts on there (or anywhere else)?

 

[TobiasFunke]

for our upcoming family vacation to DC, i want to have one dinner at a place where i can immerse the kids (ages 17, 15, and 9) in another country's exotic cultural experience. not just the food, but also the ambiance.

when i last visited DC, some 25 years ago, i went to an Ethiopian place (Meskerem) where you sat on cushions, and scooped up your food with injera. that sort of idea.

any suggestions?

ETA: reminder that we will not have a car, so prefer places near a metro stop.

I'd still go with Ethiopian. That's the biggest immigrant community in DC, other than the ones that are kind of standard everywhere.

Other options- Korean (but most of the places are in the Falls Church, VA area), El Salvadoran (but it probably would be no different than a Mexican restaurant from your kids' perspective). Can't think of much else. Ghana Cafe would be perfect but I think it's closed.

 

[Mr. Ected]

Georgia Browns - serves cuisine from that other country of The South.

that place does look great, but i've been immersed in that particular cultural experience for 49 years.

Partial joke, especially after seeing your from DFW. Will think a bit and post.

 

[oso diablo]

thanks Tobias. Is Meskerem still the place to go for ethiopian experience?

 

[TobiasFunke]

thanks Tobias. Is Meskerem still the place to go for ethiopian experience?

One of several good options. If you'd prefer to stay out of Adams Morgan I really like Etete, which is also just two blocks from the U Street metro stop.

 

[Mr. Ected]

As bad as sports talk radio has been in DC, TV sports anchors have been top notch. Glenn Brenner stood alone in tier 1. Warner Wolf and George Michael became nationally known back in the day and it now seems like DC is ESPN's minor league affiliate.

Add Dan Hellie to the list. He's great on the NFL Network.

DC has been a hotbed for sports personality talent. Everybody is at espn or the NFL Network now.Just off the top of my head....

Wilbon & Tony

Andrew Siciliano

Lindsay Czarniak

Dan Hellie

Scott Van Pelt

Rachael Nichols

Add Bram Weinstein to that list. Used to work on 980 before moving to CT.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

As bad as sports talk radio has been in DC, TV sports anchors have been top notch. Glenn Brenner stood alone in tier 1. Warner Wolf and George Michael became nationally known back in the day and it now seems like DC is ESPN's minor league affiliate.

Add Dan Hellie to the list. He's great on the NFL Network.

DC has been a hotbed for sports personality talent. Everybody is at espn or the NFL Network now.Just off the top of my head....

Wilbon & Tony

Andrew Siciliano

Lindsay Czarniak

Dan Hellie

Scott Van Pelt

Rachael Nichols

Add Bram Weinstein to that list. Used to work on 980 before moving to CT.

Good one. I'm shocked Bram advanced since the majority of my memories of him are him talking on Saturday mornings about how hung over he was from the night before. When he wasn't hung over he was talking about getting drunk.

 

[oso diablo]

thanks Tobias. Is Meskerem still the place to go for ethiopian experience?

One of several good options. If you'd prefer to stay out of Adams Morgan I really like Etete, which is also just two blocks from the U Street metro stop.

Ben's Chili Bowl worth a lunch stop?

 

[TobiasFunke]

thanks Tobias. Is Meskerem still the place to go for ethiopian experience?

One of several good options. If you'd prefer to stay out of Adams Morgan I really like Etete, which is also just two blocks from the U Street metro stop.

Ben's Chili Bowl worth a lunch stop?

Yeah, maybe. It's about three blocks from there. The food is nothing amazing, but it's pretty good and kid-friendly and somewhat unique to DC because of the half-smokes. And the history of the place and the vibe there probably make it worth a stop. I wouldn't go out of your way, but if you're already at a green line stop in town and looking for a place to kill some time and grab a bite I'd go for it.

The area around there has gotten much nicer in the last few years, too. It's no Georgetown or anything but there's some interesting clothing boutiques and whatnot, if your kids are old enough to be into that kind of thing.

 

[(HULK)]

for another one of our evenings, i'd like to have dinner at a place considered a DC institution. Old Ebbitt Grill appears to fit the bill. Thoughts on there (or anywhere else)?

I got married there. Love that place.

 

[(HULK)]

Is Marrakesh still open. That's an ethnic experience.

 

[Mr. Ected]

Living out in Leesburg and having a bunch of little ones, I don't get to spend much time in DC. Was looking for places and remembered the Brickskeller. One of our favorites when I was in college (GW) because of their failure to card. At their peak, they had over 1000 types of beer. Did not realize that it had closed in 2010. It reopened under new ownership, as the Bier Baron and now has over 600 beers.

Has anyone been to the new version of the place?

 

[dgreen]

As bad as sports talk radio has been in DC, TV sports anchors have been top notch. Glenn Brenner stood alone in tier 1. Warner Wolf and George Michael became nationally known back in the day and it now seems like DC is ESPN's minor league affiliate.

Add Dan Hellie to the list. He's great on the NFL Network.

DC has been a hotbed for sports personality talent. Everybody is at espn or the NFL Network now.Just off the top of my head....

Wilbon & Tony

Andrew Siciliano

Lindsay Czarniak

Dan Hellie

Scott Van Pelt

Rachael Nichols

Add Bram Weinstein to that list. Used to work on 980 before moving to CT.

Sage Steele Scott Hanson

 

[dgreen]

for our upcoming family vacation to DC, i want to have one dinner at a place where i can immerse the kids (ages 17, 15, and 9) in another country's exotic cultural experience. not just the food, but also the ambiance.

when i last visited DC, some 25 years ago, i went to an Ethiopian place (Meskerem) where you sat on cushions, and scooped up your food with injera. that sort of idea.

any suggestions?

ETA: reminder that we will not have a car, so prefer places near a metro stop.

I'd still go with Ethiopian. That's the biggest immigrant community in DC, other than the ones that are kind of standard everywhere.

Other options- Korean (but most of the places are in the Falls Church, VA area), El Salvadoran (but it probably would be no different than a Mexican restaurant from your kids' perspective). Can't think of much else. Ghana Cafe would be perfect but I think it's closed.

Look around this site http://tylercowensethnicdiningguide.comA lot will be in suburbs but you should be able to find some possibilities in DC near a metro stop.

 

[The_Man]

As bad as sports talk radio has been in DC, TV sports anchors have been top notch. Glenn Brenner stood alone in tier 1. Warner Wolf and George Michael became nationally known back in the day and it now seems like DC is ESPN's minor league affiliate.

Add Dan Hellie to the list. He's great on the NFL Network.

DC has been a hotbed for sports personality talent. Everybody is at espn or the NFL Network now.Just off the top of my head....

Wilbon & Tony

Andrew Siciliano

Lindsay Czarniak

Dan Hellie

Scott Van Pelt

Rachael Nichols

Add Bram Weinstein to that list. Used to work on 980 before moving to CT.

Sage Steele Scott Hanson

Brett Haber. Widely known as one of the bigger a-holes in the business

 

[Uruk-Hai]

For some reason, I thought Haber went the other way - ESPN first, then DC

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Mari Vanna is a very authentic Russian place that Ovechkin and whatever model/tennis player he's with at the moment like to frequent. It's about half way between the Dupont Circle and Farragut North Metros. Of course, your kids might not be able to fully appreciate the vodka collection and your wallet wouldn't appreciate the caviar service.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Is Marrakesh still open. That's an ethnic experience.

Still open.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

My own thoughts about Old Ebbitt is that its rarely worth the hassle. Unless you're getting the raw seafood (which is certainly good) you're getting essentially the same stuff the other Clyde's restaurants do. Which isn't bad food at all, but I'm not sure I'd pay the premium and face the annoying crowds at Old Ebbitt to do it (I've waited 45 minutes for a table there when I had a reservation).

There are plenty of restaurants with some interesting history if you only want decent food. For instance, Martin's Tavern has the booth JFK proposed to Jackie in and a bunch of other booths. And unless you're going for weekend brunch, there's rarely a wait. It's not by a Metro, but is on the 30 bus lines. A lot of the hotel bars in downtown also have a lot of history or contemporary political relevance. The Round Robin at the Willard. Off The Record in the Hay Adams. Quill at The Jefferson. I enjoy all of them more than Old Ebbitt, but I might be blinded by the better cocktails.

 

[nittanylion]

Holy Cow, I owe this Thread some posting. Sorry so busy right now, should clear up after Super Bowl.

oso diablo, I have lots of good info for you, will post soon. You as well, Mr. Ected.

Although a few years my junior, hung out in the same social circles as Bram Weinstein while in HS, and for a while after I came back home from college. Worked with and hung out plenty with Scott Linn (980 AM) in the early-to-mid-90's, really regret losing touch with him. One glaring omission from the list compiled so far: Jason LaCanfora...

Ramsay Hunt's views on Old Ebbitt mirror my own, to a 'T'. (HULK), I understand you have sentimental ties to that place, and I completely respect that. I'm really not a 'scene' guy, and I consider OEGrill more of 'scene' place these days, as opposed to a place I'd seek out for the uniqueness or quality of the cuisine...it's not cheap eats, and from a food standpoint, for the same amt of $$$ you can drop there, you can go pretty nuts at most every Chef-driven, food-centric restaurant in the Greater DC Area. Also agree with RHE about Mari Vanna on all counts. Come to think of it, I agree with everything RHE's posted in here, which seems to happen a lot, now that I think of it.

RHE, one of my goals for 2015 is to meet up with you for a tasty libation or two, compare notes, and possibly concoct some social and culinary adventures for the rest of the local crew.

At this point in it's evolution, Ben's Chili Bowl is worth nothing more than a driveby. Former DC cultural landmark that's completely jumped the shark, IMO.

Will post again in a few days.

 

[oso diablo]

good stuff. look forward to it.

 

[Todd Andrews]

The city is the heartbeat of the region... don't move too far away from it imo.

I've lived in the city for 20 years. I'd stay here (Petworth) for another 5-10 or even more, schools be damned, if it wasn't for the new arrival. Especially since I'm a huge Wiz/Nats fan, to the point that being on the green line was a factor in the last decision and would be if possible in the next decision. But you gotta do what you gotta do.

Fredericksburg is exactly the sort of thing I'd look at if it wasn't for the distance from Rockville. I can do an hour commute, and having an office on the SE edge of the "downtown" makes it easier to look in that direction. Speaking of, anyone know if there's anything worth checking out in PG County? We've never really looked at that. Would be great for me from a commute and price standpoint but I know the schools are a big question mark.

If you want to pay for private school, its kinda nice over by National Harbor. Like, really close to it only though.

My wife used to live in Riva just outside of Annapolis... no idea on their schools but the area was pretty great. Shopping/dining is cookie cutter though, unless you head into downtown Annapolis.

I would take a hard look at the Kensington area just for the Rockville proximity. We live there, my inlaws are in North Potomac, my Mom in Leisure World just south of Olney, my dad over in White Oak. I've got a 4 year old and a 6 year old. I can't understate the importance of having several free and trusted babysitters close to home.

I second Kensington--we are right next door to it in Garrett Park and there is a lot of new nice stuff popping up all around the Pike in North Bethesda (live music, restaurants, retail, etc). And you can get an older 4 br for $700,000. And if you tear it down in a few years and put up somehting nice it will be worth seven figures.

My mom is over in Potomac a couple miles away and Rockville is just up the Pike. Public schools are some of the best in the country.

By the way Hulk, we still make the run over to Riva a few times a summer to Mike's. Closer than Cantler's but still great.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

The city is the heartbeat of the region... don't move too far away from it imo.

I've lived in the city for 20 years. I'd stay here (Petworth) for another 5-10 or even more, schools be damned, if it wasn't for the new arrival. Especially since I'm a huge Wiz/Nats fan, to the point that being on the green line was a factor in the last decision and would be if possible in the next decision. But you gotta do what you gotta do.

Fredericksburg is exactly the sort of thing I'd look at if it wasn't for the distance from Rockville. I can do an hour commute, and having an office on the SE edge of the "downtown" makes it easier to look in that direction. Speaking of, anyone know if there's anything worth checking out in PG County? We've never really looked at that. Would be great for me from a commute and price standpoint but I know the schools are a big question mark.

If you want to pay for private school, its kinda nice over by National Harbor. Like, really close to it only though.

My wife used to live in Riva just outside of Annapolis... no idea on their schools but the area was pretty great. Shopping/dining is cookie cutter though, unless you head into downtown Annapolis.

I would take a hard look at the Kensington area just for the Rockville proximity. We live there, my inlaws are in North Potomac, my Mom in Leisure World just south of Olney, my dad over in White Oak. I've got a 4 year old and a 6 year old. I can't understate the importance of having several free and trusted babysitters close to home.

I second Kensington--we are right next door to it in Garrett Park and there is a lot of new nice stuff popping up all around the Pike in North Bethesda (live music, restaurants, retail, etc). And you can get an older 4 br for $700,000. And if you tear it down in a few years and put up somehting nice it will be worth seven figures.

My mom is over in Potomac a couple miles away and Rockville is just up the Pike. Public schools are some of the best in the country.

By the way Hulk, we still make the run over to Riva a few times a summer to Mike's. Closer than Cantler's but still great.

I'm way to the west of there nowadays, but my mother lives in Annapolis so I get there several times a year. If you guys ever want to cornhole & crack a claw or two at Mikes, let me know.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I'm house/dog sitting in Vienna 4/3-4/11. Fourth week+ trip in two years. I'm drawn to this area. I want to buy the house on Hulk's street and fix it up.

I'll have two 16 year old girls with me. I'd like to see a Wizards game, but they're on the road.

I'd like to take a scenic day or overnight road trip. The beaches south with wild horses interest me. Forget the name.

I'd like to see some live music with the girls. If any of you hunt or fish and those are good dates, the house I'm in has excellent gear for that, and I'd enjoy getting outdoors (with or without an fbg guide). Seems I never do that when I'm in the area. What I don't want to do is the same stuff (touristy) that I've already done. Any suggestions beyond the obvious historical/tourist stuff are appreciated.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

The beaches are Chincoteague/Assateague. I haven't been in nearly 30 years, but I didn't find a bunch of mean wild ponies wandering around the Assateague beach parking lot all that magical. I'd also wager that just about all the seasonal businesses will still be closed in April. Your best bet for outdoors stuff might be looking the other way toward the Shenandoah Valley.

 

[Don Quixote]

Is less obvious historical stuff of interest? I've done a lot of that and could try to steer you.

Lots of Civil War battlefields that are good day trips (Bull Run may be obvious, but Antietam, Fredericksburg, Spotsylvania, Ball's Bluff, the Wilderness are not far--Gettysburg probably an overnight). If you like outdoors, Antietam is small enough that you can bike it.

Maybe too obvious, but you could also head down to the Charlottesville area for Monticello, Montpelier, and Ash Lawn if you've never been down there.

Less touristy museums around here could include the National Museum of Health and Medicine, which has a grotesque, but fascinating collection (including the bullet that killed Lincoln and part of President Garfield's spine).

I can try to provide some more obscure suggestions if want me to go deeper.

 

[Swing 51]

Ever been to a show at Wolf Trap in Vienna? Great venue if anyone good is playing in April.