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The Opiate and Heroin Epidemic in America (1 Viewer)

In a New York Times opinion piece, medical researcher Colleen Barry posits that while the rise in opioid prescriptions has mirrored the expansion of medical marijuana laws, only states with such laws in place saw a dramatic reduction in overdoses related to prescribed painkillers:

But using state-level death certificate data from 1999 to 2010, my colleagues and I found that the annual rate of opioid overdose deaths decreased substantially — by 25 percent on average — following the passage of medical marijuana laws, compared to states that still had bans.

 
D_House said:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2016/12/17/orphaned-by-americas-opioid-epidemic/

It's not clear to me what role prescription opioids play in these sad stories we keep reading about, but we definitely need more effective interventions from the medical community on the rehabilitation side.
A lot. Instead of the stereotypical crack dealer giving your first rock for free, the road begins with a prescription.

Drug companies had bombarded West Virginia’s rural towns with record numbers of narcotics, according to court records: 300,000 tablets of hydrocodone to the mom-and-pop pharmacy in the town of War, population 808; half a million oxycodone pills to Kermit, population 400.
It may be someone else's prescription, but the original opiate that the vast majority of addicts use is one that's obtained legally by someone.

A study of young, urban injection drug users interviewed in 2008 and 2009 found that 86 percent had used opioid pain relievers nonmedically prior to using heroin, and their initiation into nonmedical use was characterized by three main sources of opioids: family, friends, or personal prescriptions

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/relationship-between-prescription-drug-heroin-abuse/prescription-opioid-use-risk-factor-heroin-use
As prescribed opiates have gone up, so have heroin deaths. Most of this can be traced back to Purdue aggressively marketing Oxycontin after their patent on MS Contin was set to expire. LA times has an article out showing how Purdue is now attacking developing markets, much like the tobacco industry, as attitudes shift in the USA.

 
Did we help all the crack addicts in the inner cities during that epidemic or did we just throw them all in jail.  Great job America.  
Except there weren't many dentists writing prescriptions for cocaine back in the 80s. Here, the government paid for a lot of these pills through Medicaid and the pushing, through pharma reps was all done legally.
The make-up of this problem is much different than crack in the 80s.

 
Except there weren't many dentists writing prescriptions for cocaine back in the 80s. Here, the government paid for a lot of these pills through Medicaid and the pushing, through pharma reps was all done legally.
The make-up of this problem is much different than crack in the 80s.
Plus its alot of white people now.  I'm curious if they go to jail as often as the crackies did.

 
We are prosecuting and putting all of these people in jail, right?
I read this and thought you were talking about the people pushing the opiates out into the market.  Most of the replies thought you meant the abusers.

The problem with any company is that "sharedholder value" cares not for the people.  And every single decision is made to maximize shareholder value.  The FDA is supposed to prevent situations like this, but they pretty much suck at everything.

 
Rotating movantik commercials on TV for people with opioid induced constipation. Drugs to counteract side effects of opioid use, prescription or otherwise. Just guy on my couch unscientificly,  if that doesn't scream we have a prescription/illegal opioid problem in this country, I give up. :shrug:

 
Just makes me angry. God forbid we explore weed for the same purpose of pain management, which is exponentially less harmful than synthetic/lab opiates side by side. No, let's double down and push the portfolio of pills to counteract the side effects of the synthetic/lab opiates that lead patients who get addicted down the path to heroin in many cases when the prescription or money runs out. Got it.

 
I'm coming down from a couple of bean days.  I'm gonna be a miserable bastage today.  Not to mention the back pain is amping up again.  Oh well, at least I'm walking.

 
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A ‘civil war’ over painkillers rips apart the medical community

For Thomas P. Yacoe, the word is “terrifying.”

Leah Hemberry describes it as “constant fear.”

For Michael Tausig Jr., the terror is “beyond description.”

All three are patients struggling with chronic pain, but what they are describing is not physical agony but a war inside the medical community that is threatening their access to painkillers — and, by extension, their work, their relationships, and their sanity.

Two years after the United States saw a record 27,000 deaths involving prescription opioid medications and heroin, doctors and regulators are sharply restricting access to drugs like Oxycontin and Vicodin. But as the pendulum swings in the other direction, many patients who genuinely need drugs to manage their pain say they are being left behind.

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Stanford’s Mackey said those risks are important to recognize. But, he said, nearly 15,000 people die a year from anti-inflammatory medications like ibuprofen. “People aren’t talking about that,” he said.

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Those who experience chronic pain say these views embolden clinicians, pharmacists, and others to treat them like addicts and criminals.

Hemberry, a 36-year-old multimedia specialist in Leavenworth, Wash., suffers from a connective-tissue disorder called Ehlers-Danlos syndrome and trigeminal neuralgia, an often-excruciating nerve condition for which she occasionally takes opioids.

She heard Lembke interviewed on NPR recently and was bereft. “Every pain patient is now an addict and a failure,” Hemberry said.

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According to Carr, of the American Academy of Pain Medicine, the conservative opioid treatment approach used in the study, and the modest benefits reported, reflect the current practices and expectations of many doctors.

But a growing number, he said, are being pressured into a zero-tolerance policy.

“Because if one isn’t anti-opioid enough, there’ll be protests,” said Carr, who is also founding director of Tufts University’s Pain Research, Education, and Policy Program.

Other experts note that, as opioid restrictions tighten, the medical system and insurance industry have done little to support opioid-withdrawal efforts, help more physicians learn how to help patients manage pain, or enable access to alternative therapies.

In some cases, patients seeking to treat their pain have turned to street drugs like heroin or synthetic fentanyl, while others have instead chosen suicide. (In one high-profile case recently, a man who committed suicide left behind notes saying he could find no help for his chronic pain; at least two of the roughly 20 patients interviewed for this article said they had considered suicide because of their pain.)

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It's been a problem in CT, too. they made a movie about it in Willimantic called Heroin Town. The Hooker Hotel (Thomas Hooker) is known for it. Just sad, all around.
I'm on my CT ####, but when ain't II've been repping this #### since I was yay highI'm from heroin town, yeah I was born thereCheck the location on my Foursquare, junkies and whores there
 

 
I grew up playing baseball, all state my senior year, straight As, full ride to an amazing academic institution. Had my wisdom teeth taken out a year after finishing undergrad, was given a 30 count of vicodin... Within one year was shooting heroin on the west side of Chicago. 3 years clean today, seen it all, done it all, and it isn't pretty out there. Took me 5 years of consistent relapses and multiple stints in jail/rehab to get this right, and I'm still scared of what could easily happen again if I let it.  This crap is in the high schools, in your neighborhood, wherever you live. This disease can hit anyone, please educate your children on the horrors of addiction and if nothing else, hide your Rxs from them. Good luck and God bless to anyone fighting the good fight. 

 
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The myth that prescriptions caused the opioid crisis

Opioids (narcotics) are the only class of medicine to control real pain. Out of 100 people taking pain medicine, only a very few, perhaps three or four, will develop an addiction. Restricting pain medicine in the other 97 is not good medical practice.

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Well-meaning people confuse the doctor’s prescribing with the increased opioid (narcotic) death rate by thinking prescription drugs lead to heroin. This is not true. They may be both involved but causation has not been shown in carefully designed studies. Deaths from narcotic overdoses usually involve multiple, non-prescribed, street drugs, not pain medicines prescribed by caring doctors.

 
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The DEA Is to Blame for America’s Opioid Overdose Epidemic

Heroin overdose rates doubled in 28 states between 2010 and 2012, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A record-breaking 28,000 Americans died of opioid overdoses in 2014. In 2000, the age-adjusted drug overdose death rate was 6.2 per 100,000 persons. By 2014, it had increased to 9, according to the CDC.

What happened?

The truth is that many of those deaths are completely preventable and result not from painkillers, but from the Drug Enforcement Administration’s war on painkillers.

 
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I think you'll find some disagreement here. And what exactly is a "carefully designed study? If I were the doctor writing that article I'd probably say it's not my fault too. He also mentions how therapy doesn't work, and these drug "seekers" need, guess what, medically administered drugs. Do people even consider sources when they read stuff?

I grew up playing baseball, all state my senior year, straight As, full ride to an amazing academic institution. Had my wisdom teeth taken out a year after finishing undergrad, was given a 30 count of vicodin... Within one year was shooting heroin on the west side of Chicago. 3 years clean today, seen it all, done it all, and it isn't pretty out there. Took me 5 years of consistent relapses and multiple stints in jail/rehab to get this right, and I'm still scared of what could easily happen again if I let it.  This crap is in the high schools, in your neighborhood, wherever you live. This disease can hit anyone, please educate your children on the horrors of addiction and if nothing else, hide your Rxs from them. Good luck and God bless to anyone fighting the good fight. 
I have 2 friends that died because of prescribed drug abuse. They weren't shooting up, it was prescribed to somebody. It's not just opioids that are getting passed around either. I think most kids with an adderall prescription sell at least some of it. 

 
I think you'll find some disagreement here. And what exactly is a "carefully designed study? If I were the doctor writing that article I'd probably say it's not my fault too. He also mentions how therapy doesn't work, and these drug "seekers" need, guess what, medically administered drugs. Do people even consider sources when they read stuff?
1. A carefully designed study is one that properly controls for factors that could improperly influence outcomes/conclusions. This is required to establish, validity, reliability, and replicability. From Patient-Centered Outcomes Studies Needed in Pain Management:

“Understanding how a study was designed and conducted is critically important to determining the usefulness of the findings that result. To be trustworthy, findings must be based on valid, rigorous, patient-centered methods,” he said.
2. The article I first linked above states that drug seekers need "quick, early intervention with a medical receptor blockage program." Are you disputing the scientific evidence that underlies this statement?

 
Just Win Baby said:
1. A carefully designed study is one that properly controls for factors that could improperly influence outcomes/conclusions. This is required to establish, validity, reliability, and replicability. From Patient-Centered Outcomes Studies Needed in Pain Management:

2. The article I first linked above states that drug seekers need "quick, early intervention with a medical receptor blockage program." Are you disputing the scientific evidence that underlies this statement?
1: I understand the idea that a study can be influenced by ignoring data to get the results that a group wants (company, politically, etc.) I'm perhaps a bit of a layman here, is "carefully designed study" a common term in the science community? Can we reasonably assume this means the study the md is referring to is non-biased? Two groups can have the same data and interpret results very differently. 

2: The "drug seeker" term is a bit ambiguous. If someone is seeking a prescription to get their fix then they already have a problem, and yes they probably need medical help in addition to therapy and some sort of support network outside of the hospital. However, if someone gets their wisdom teeth out or has back pain and gets hooked I don't see how you can identify them as at risk. The article states that about 4% of people get hooked, and that you can somehow identify them as a "drug seeker". Most people that abuse drugs have some sort of outside trigger that they are escaping from and chronic use results in addiction, so I think to discount therapy as a method of rehabilitation is foolish. You need to address the underlying issues. 

I'll close with this- I'm just a guy, I'm not claiming to know a lot about this, just popped in and reading the posted links on the last page or two.  I don't think doctors are the problem, unless they are receiving benefits for prescribing certain drugs, in which case they should be prosecuted for bribery. This stuff happens in business all the time, it doesn't have to be an exchange of money all the time, but golf trips, use of a vacation home, whatever it may be. Doctors should be prescribing the best remedy, not what makes them some extra bonus. 

 
1: I understand the idea that a study can be influenced by ignoring data to get the results that a group wants (company, politically, etc.) I'm perhaps a bit of a layman here, is "carefully designed study" a common term in the science community? Can we reasonably assume this means the study the md is referring to is non-biased? Two groups can have the same data and interpret results very differently. 

2: The "drug seeker" term is a bit ambiguous. If someone is seeking a prescription to get their fix then they already have a problem, and yes they probably need medical help in addition to therapy and some sort of support network outside of the hospital. However, if someone gets their wisdom teeth out or has back pain and gets hooked I don't see how you can identify them as at risk. The article states that about 4% of people get hooked, and that you can somehow identify them as a "drug seeker". Most people that abuse drugs have some sort of outside trigger that they are escaping from and chronic use results in addiction, so I think to discount therapy as a method of rehabilitation is foolish. You need to address the underlying issues. 

I'll close with this- I'm just a guy, I'm not claiming to know a lot about this, just popped in and reading the posted links on the last page or two.  I don't think doctors are the problem, unless they are receiving benefits for prescribing certain drugs, in which case they should be prosecuted for bribery. This stuff happens in business all the time, it doesn't have to be an exchange of money all the time, but golf trips, use of a vacation home, whatever it may be. Doctors should be prescribing the best remedy, not what makes them some extra bonus. 
1. I think the reference has to do with how difficult it is to properly control for all influencing factors. Have subjects used illegal drugs in the past? Are they currently doing so? Do they drink alcohol, and, if so, how much? Do they have a history of depression or any neurological disorders? What are the same answers for their parents, siblings, spouse, and/or children? Do they have a high level of stress in their lives outside of their health issues? Etc. I'm not saying these are the right ones, just examples off the top of my head.

2. Frankly, I don't care as much about the 4% as about the 96%. My wife is one of the 96% and has been since 1998, and this Govt 'war' on the 'opioid epidemic', i.e., on the drug seekers, has done and continues to do serious harm to her and the rest of the 96%. :thumbdown:  

 
Painkillers are my friend right now as I'm dealing with some brutal sciatica.  Had to walk 2 terminals over at O'Hare today and felt like a marathon as I limped my way there.  Yes, I'm not happy to be on 'em.  Meeting with my doc on Wed and my hope is to be off the them as soon as possible.  I don't want to get hooked on this stuff (though I'm not the abusing type) but they are absolutely necessary until this nerve stop gets getting pinched.

 
This so called "epidemic" is manufactured. Prescription opiates have been around for nearly 100 years and never got out of hand. The DEA has been the major player in drug trafficking for a long time and they really don't try to hide it.

What changed?

They took control of the Afghan poppy fields and it is more profitable for them to now force legitimate patients to purchase street heroin. Filtering it through the medical industry is too much overhead.

Problem, reaction , solution.

 
My Mary was diagnosed with bone cancer in '94, the first time the medical profession worried about over-medicating. Having beat breast cancer with radical chemo a few years before, she cried 'uncle' and declined treatment for the nine tumors on her rib cage & embraced the 'weeks, maybe months' prognosis. She lasted for over two years of the most shrillshrieking pain you ever wanna see. Already a known drug abuser (coke, though - she never liked opiates), the medical profession seemed to enjoy the itoldyouso of under-medicating her. We fough&fought&fought but her monthly allotment of liquid morphine lasted no more than 9-12 days. I rationed it myself fearing she was indeed overdoing it, but i never made it to two weeks. She managed the rest of the month with a lot of pills and screaming the first year The second year she broke her wrist shaking out a match and snapped her femur in two adjusting her weight on the couch and they still wouldnt up her dosage. We finally said #### it and i spent almost six figs and came close to getting busted (mandatory sentencing too) several times buying street morphine and sometimes smack (which made her sick, but...). Pretty sure too many people who dont need it are getting it - you only have to go to a drug store on a Friday afternoon to see that - but i hardly ####in' care.

 
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